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2013-02-12 02:44:29 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-12 02:44:36 PM
Yay, another tipping thread! Honestly, aren't we getting tired of this yet?
 
2013-02-12 02:44:49 PM
I tip, and I tip well.

But goddamnit I don't need a reminder about how much your job sucks.
 
2013-02-12 02:45:46 PM
Server tipping?

www.fema.gov
 
2013-02-12 02:45:47 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-12 02:45:51 PM
"Just the tip..."
static.diary.ru
 
2013-02-12 02:46:10 PM
Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?
 
2013-02-12 02:47:51 PM

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


It's called McDonalds
 
2013-02-12 02:48:18 PM
www.wisconsinbidforicypaa.org
 
2013-02-12 02:48:51 PM
This story is an obvious fake.

A boozehound orders no olives. Those things take up space.
 
2013-02-12 02:48:53 PM
it would suck to be a port-o-potty cleaner as well...jeez.

Servers, get over yourself all ready; if you don't like your job, get a different one.
 
2013-02-12 02:49:11 PM
 
2013-02-12 02:49:17 PM

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


Of course not.  The owner would rather have you subsidize his workers than pay them himself.
 
2013-02-12 02:49:24 PM

You pause, you pause, you breathe, you stow the panic about the rent and the bills that is in your throat like acid, you breathe, and then you


...try to figure out where the hell you went wrong in your life to end up in such an untenable position so you can fix whatever the hell it is so you can have a real job where you don't need to worry about making rent.


PS Hero tag? Really?
 
2013-02-12 02:50:09 PM
Only a white person would refer to $9/hour as "slave wages".  Slaves were generally paid a lot less, like, zero.

And it's not so simple that servers t make $2.65 an hour - if their tips don't bring their gross up to minimum wage,they are paid minimum wage. Which isn't much, but when the Democrats had control of Congress with a filibuster-proof Senate, and the Presidency, from July 2010 to January 2012, they didn't bother fixing this. Or anything.

/wanker
 
2013-02-12 02:50:54 PM
Long article is long.
 
2013-02-12 02:51:24 PM
How many people actually leave and take the time to write a note that says you dont deserve a tip. Get out of here Pitt, you have some more crazy 9/11 truthing to do on Democratic Underground.
 
2013-02-12 02:51:31 PM
What, no mandatory gratuity on a table of 8?

This story smells of BS... or the server got the 18% and complained about not getting more.
 
2013-02-12 02:51:49 PM
Wasn't this the plot to that movie "Waiting" with Ryan Reynolds and that other guy?  What is that guys name?
 
2013-02-12 02:52:19 PM

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


Go ask Japan, Australia, Sweden, and all of those other socialist cesspools.
 
2013-02-12 02:52:32 PM
Yay, tipping thread!

Remember kids, waiters are the hardest working people on the planet.  Without them, society would come to a grinding halt!
 
2013-02-12 02:52:50 PM

Smeggy Smurf: fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?

It's called McDonalds


Interesting point.  I was thinking more in terms of a sit down restaurant, though.
 
2013-02-12 02:53:02 PM
I always tip.  Something.  It really does depend on the service.
I know the difference between when it's the kitchen's fault and the server's.  So I don't punish the server when it isn't their fault.

I normally start at 15%, and go up or down from there depending on how well it went.

A few weeks ago, we ate in a place where our appatizers came out before our drinks.  And two other tables were finished and cleaned up (and they came in after us), before we were even served our main course.  This is not the kitchen's fault, or the bar tender's.  This one lies soley on the server being unorganized.  I tipped very little that day.

In any case, I really do feel for these poor people that are only making like $1.37 an hour.  That's criminal.
 
2013-02-12 02:53:06 PM

MadMonk: Long article is long.


You should read the crap he posts on forums.
 
2013-02-12 02:53:09 PM

Ecobuckeye: This story is an obvious fake.

A boozehound orders no olives. Those things take up space.


ONly a true farker would catch that
 
2013-02-12 02:53:14 PM

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


A lot of the hotels here (Waikiki) are unionized so the serving staff make about $16 an hour

there is no discernible difference in service from the stand alone non unionized places.
 
2013-02-12 02:53:17 PM

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


europeans seem to do just fine.

/had a bartender in northern england insist we not tip him because he was being paid a fair wage and he felt bad when americans overtipped
//we tipped him anyway, he went to college in our hometown and he gave us a liberal free taste from all 20 taps
 
2013-02-12 02:53:24 PM

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


Yes, most everywhere I've been to in Europe. And the service is just fine. In the UK the service wasn't great but it was still adequate. Tipping is nothing more than legalized tax evasion for the food carriers, and its a slimy way to transfer risk from himself to his employees for restaurant owners.
 
2013-02-12 02:53:25 PM
o.onionstatic.com
 
2013-02-12 02:53:43 PM
Paying anyone less than minimum wage needs to be outlawed.
 
2013-02-12 02:53:53 PM
"And I thought I had it bad."
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-12 02:54:05 PM

Farce-Side: Wasn't this the plot to that movie "Waiting" with Ryan Reynolds and that other guy?  What is that guys name?


Luis Guzman.
 
2013-02-12 02:54:32 PM

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


Of Course.  It's called "Europe".

/PS: They have been in the restaurant business even before the US existed.
 
2013-02-12 02:54:58 PM
If being a waitress is such a lousy job, why do so many people do it?  And why have so many people done it over the years -- regardless of the economy which, I admit, is crap right now.
 
2013-02-12 02:55:08 PM

Ecobuckeye: This story is an obvious fake.

A boozehound orders no olives. Those things take up space.


If you substitute them for dinner it works.
 
2013-02-12 02:56:07 PM
Never wanted to be a server because people are assholes.

Made the dream come true.
 
2013-02-12 02:56:09 PM
First, doesn't matter a table of 8 didn't leave a tip.  Gratuity is almost always enforced on tables of 6 or 8.  Second, most restaurants have "bussers" that clear the tables, not waiters...
 
2013-02-12 02:56:11 PM
oh yes all servers are heroes. stfu already.
 
2013-02-12 02:56:57 PM

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


Yes.  Wegman's is a regional higher end market here in the NE and they have "Pubs" at some locations where you order and aren't allowed to tip.  All workers there are well compensated (per their comments to me when I repeatedly TRY to tip) and all have been very nice.
 
2013-02-12 02:57:14 PM
Sweetheart, I'm sorry that all those tips from lonely old men you made when you were 18 dried up now that you're 24 and the other waitress is 18, and you thought you could wear a tight shirt and make rent by the first Saturday of the month. I really am. But have you thought about GETTING A JOB DOING LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE?
 
2013-02-12 02:57:38 PM
Want to help the workers? The economy? The whole country?

Make it illegal to pay anyone under the minimum wage perhaps? Or will servers start complaining when they no longer bring home after a good day the equivalent of what other people in entry service/retail  positions make in a week.
 
2013-02-12 02:57:51 PM
If waiting tables is so bad, why do people do it?  I spent my college years working at a sub shop.  I still had to deal with customers, but I got paid over $10 an hour and was out of there by 10pm every night.  I have always assumed that the 'good' nights made the pay average out to more and that's why someone would choose to wait tables, but every single article I read says they are basically slaves who do nothing but selflessly serve their employers and customers for minimum wage.
 
2013-02-12 02:58:01 PM

macdaddy357: Paying anyone less than minimum wage needs to be outlawed.


Lets start with our military.  It's not nice to be shiatty to the guys with the big guns
 
2013-02-12 02:58:32 PM
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2013-02-12 02:58:41 PM
As a former food service slave from WAY back, I always make sure I tip well. If the service is great, I tip even better. shiatty waitstaff still get a decent tip from me, just because I know what it's like on that side of the serving tray.

CSB
One night, after a particularly bad experience with a trainee waiter, I tipped him roughly 25%. On the way to the car, my girlfriend said, "Why did you tip him that much? He was AWFUL!" I just replied, "Look, I've done his job before. It's miserable when you know what you're doing. It's his FIRST day on the job, so he's going to make mistakes. In the grand scheme of things, what is the right thing to do: give someone a little extra encouragement, or walk out of there with the measly $10-15.00 tip still in your pocket? That money means more to him right now that it did to me."
/CSB
 
2013-02-12 02:58:46 PM
FTFA There are two types of people in America: those who have worked in the service industry, and those who have not. Those who have know this story like the back of their hand, because they have lived it. Those who haven't are, virtually without exception, the reason stories like this exist.

So what?  Try ditch digging for a living. Or roofing in 120 degree weather.  Or guard patrol in Iraq.  At least you are in doors most of the time.  Or 75 hours a week months straight to make a development deadline.  I've never worked a service job in my life but I've fark'd enough waiters in my lifetime to know that waiting tables isn't the hardest job in the world.

/the server does their job well - they get tipped
//if they don't - they get nothing
///nooooothing
 
2013-02-12 02:58:54 PM
Take-out. Same great food. Less fake happiness, Squatting-to-be-eye-level-friendly, "Did everything turn out alright?", "how was your meal?"-managing, conversation interrupting, loud plate smashing, line-dancing, & happy birthday singing, plus you don't have to do math at the end of dinner.
 
2013-02-12 02:58:58 PM

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


That would apply to any restaurant in Oregon. State law requires that all restaurant employees, whether they're working at McDonald's or a sit-down restaurant, to be paid Oregon's minimum wage. Currently that's $8.95 an hour. All tips are on top of that.
 
2013-02-12 02:59:11 PM

vudukungfu: Farce-Side: Wasn't this the plot to that movie "Waiting" with Ryan Reynolds and that other guy?  What is that guys name?

Luis Guzman.


Yea! That's him! He was great in "Summer of Sam" as well.
 
2013-02-12 02:59:13 PM
No one thinks about the dishwasher, he there before the servers show up and he's there when they leave, he makes no tips, but he still has to pay rent, gets truly minimum wage with nothing extra except a sandwich at the end of the night.

where is his essay?
 
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