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(CF News 13)   Florida lawmaker files "Sunshine Protection Act" to stay on daylight saving time forever because he gets sad when it gets dark early and he has to go back inside   (cfnews13.com) divider line 160
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2013-02-12 01:38:47 PM  
So when sunshine go away today he don't feel much like dancing?
 
2013-02-12 01:39:02 PM  
Florida: Striving to be Arizona.
 
2013-02-12 01:44:31 PM  
This ought to really confuse the old folks in that section of the Panhandle that's already in the next time zone.
 
2013-02-12 02:02:15 PM  
In this day and age it really makes absolutely no sense to move between the two.  We should just stay on day light savings time and be done with it.
 
2013-02-12 02:02:15 PM  
Florida is pretty far west and close to the Central Time Zone. They should just put the entire state in Central Zone and be done with it.
 
2013-02-12 02:02:53 PM  
I wish California would stay on DST year 'round. The change-over farks me up for a week each time.
 
2013-02-12 02:03:45 PM  
Dammit; here I was all ready to criticize Subby for making light of Seasonal Affective Disorder, only to find out that this seems to actually be what's going through the lawmaker's head.
 
2013-02-12 02:04:12 PM  
Get up an hour later, farktard!
 
2013-02-12 02:05:05 PM  
Daylight Savings is as useless and outdated a concept as the metric system.
 
2013-02-12 02:05:16 PM  
Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.
 
2013-02-12 02:05:43 PM  
It's the way it should be all the time.  It's inane we're still using this ridiculous time change system. It's much nicer (and more useful) when it stays daylight later.
 
2013-02-12 02:05:55 PM  
I hate the idea of DST.

In fact, if I were World Emperor I'd just tell everyone to switch to using GMT regardless of their locale.  If the sun rises at 2:30am in your locale then you get up and go to work at 3:30am (or whatever).  But 2:30am would be 2:30am no matter where you were.
 
2013-02-12 02:06:17 PM  
while his rationale is stupid, his goal is noble.

seriously, we haven't been an agrarian society for over 100 years. enough of this clock changing horseshiat.
 
2013-02-12 02:06:26 PM  
Whatever his reasoning, his desired result is laudable.  Daylight Savings is effing stupid

/Still bitter about Indiana finally giving in and joining DST
//I *live* never having to reset my clocks, alarm or internal
///Stupid Mitch
 
2013-02-12 02:07:01 PM  
LIKE, dammit, not live.  *sigh*
 
2013-02-12 02:07:01 PM  

olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.


And we have a winner
 
2013-02-12 02:07:02 PM  
Daylight savings time is stoopid; the amount of daylight is fixed, and the number of the hour is arbitrary. That said, I'd like to go on daylight savings time all the time just to avoid the pointless inefficiency of "s
 
2013-02-12 02:07:17 PM  

kidgenius: In this day and age it really makes absolutely no sense to move between the two.  We should just stay on day light savings time and be done with it.


Yeah - the lose-an-hour \ gain-an-hour thing just screws everything up. I've always wondered why we don't just set the clocks back 1/2 hour... and leave them the hell alone.
 
2013-02-12 02:08:03 PM  
...pring forward, fall back."

/ I had a premature launch there.
 
2013-02-12 02:08:45 PM  

abfalter: I hate the idea of DST.

In fact, if I were World Emperor I'd just tell everyone to switch to using GMT regardless of their locale.  If the sun rises at 2:30am in your locale then you get up and go to work at 3:30am (or whatever).  But 2:30am would be 2:30am no matter where you were.


If you're gonna do that, screw a.m./p.m.  Just go with a 24 hour clock.
 
2013-02-12 02:09:01 PM  
the pacific n.w. laughs
and we don't even have it as bad as say alaska

it's actually staying light past 4pm lately

/just like every year, but it's still nice
 
2013-02-12 02:09:23 PM  
Whatever the machinations of his mind, his end is commendable. fark daylight savings time.
 
2013-02-12 02:09:51 PM  
Oh look, a thread full of people who don't understand why daylight savings time exists.
 
2013-02-12 02:09:55 PM  
Hero tag should have trumped Florida tag.
 
2013-02-12 02:10:26 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Get up an hour later, farktard!


Who's the farktard now?!?

Get up an hour earlier, finish work earlier and, hey presto, you have an extra hour to be outside at the end of the day.
 
2013-02-12 02:12:00 PM  

kidgenius: In this day and age it really makes absolutely no sense to move between the two.  We should just stay on day light savings time and be done with it.


It would be the most effective energy policy our government has passed in recent memory!
 
2013-02-12 02:12:06 PM  

doubled99: Daylight Savings is as useless and outdated a concept as the metric system.


We should all switch to Metric time.
 
2013-02-12 02:12:36 PM  
Pick one or the other and stay with that time.  I farking hate time changes, the older I get the harder it is to deal with them.
 
2013-02-12 02:13:07 PM  

Kyosuke: Oh look, a thread full of people who don't understand why daylight savings time exists.


Oh look, a thread full of people who think there's an "s" in "daylight saving time".

/Yes, I know "saving" starts with an "s".  I mean ANOTHER "s".
 
2013-02-12 02:13:09 PM  
How many farktards are going to add an S to the end of "Saving" in this thread?
 
2013-02-12 02:13:38 PM  
Farmers can farm their fields around the setting of the sun and the rising.. Hey wait they do that already. Its just the rest of us that actually run by the clock.

GET RID OF IT ALREADY!
 
2013-02-12 02:13:42 PM  
Early riser...  Give me standard time, all the time.
 
2013-02-12 02:13:59 PM  

CheekyMonkey: doubled99: Daylight Savings is as useless and outdated a concept as the metric system.

We should all switch to Metric time.


The current time in the East is 5:93.
 
2013-02-12 02:14:27 PM  
But won't the extra hour of sunlight contribute to global warming?
 
2013-02-12 02:15:37 PM  

inner ted: the pacific n.w. laughs
and we don't even have it as bad as say alaska

it's actually staying light past 4pm lately

/just like every year, but it's still nice3


The dark isn't nearly as bad as the 22 1/2 of daylight in June.  Thank dog for blackout curtains.
 
2013-02-12 02:15:49 PM  
How many farktards are going to add an S to the end of "Saving" in this thread?

Way to cut through all the BS and get right to the heart of the matter.
 
2013-02-12 02:16:22 PM  

Charles_Nelson_Reilly: ...pring forward, fall back."

/ I had a premature launch there.


*snert*
 
2013-02-12 02:16:24 PM  
I wonder if he realizes that on the Winter Solstice Miami already has more hours of sunlight than the rest of the country? 10:31 hours, compared to 9:26 in DC and 9:04 in Boston.
 
2013-02-12 02:18:03 PM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: But won't the extra hour of sunlight contribute to global warming?


MIND BLOWN!!!
 
2013-02-12 02:18:52 PM  
I was around when they implemented it and I thought (rightfully so) that grown ups were always farking up a good thing.
I never thought I would live long enough to see a grow up pull his head out of his ass and actually challenge the masses of asses and say, bullshiat. this silliness has gone on long enough.
 
2013-02-12 02:19:13 PM  
As much as I like to make fun of the state I was raised in I think getting rid of changing the clock twice a year is a damn fine idea.
 
2013-02-12 02:19:15 PM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: But won't the extra hour of sunlight contribute to global warming?


Everyone knows that's not a real thing.  But if it were, we could just add another hour of darkness to balance it out.  25 hours in a day would be better anyway - then I wouldn't be stuck with partial bottles of 5-Hour Energy.
 
2013-02-12 02:20:44 PM  
The parents whining about their kids having to be out at 8am for school and it still being dark cracked me up. Millions of canadian kids do it every day in the winter...
 
2013-02-12 02:22:39 PM  
Here are your choices, folks:

No daylight saving(s) time: Sun comes up at a god-awful early hour in the summer, goes down before your are ready.

Permanent daylight saving(s) time: Winter sun comes up late, so you get to drive to work in the dark while your children stand around at a dark cold bus stop.

It makes sense if you put some thought into it.

Or you can just whine about the time changes.
 
2013-02-12 02:23:48 PM  

CheekyMonkey: I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: But won't the extra hour of sunlight contribute to global warming?

Everyone knows that's not a real thing.  But if it were, we could just add another hour of darkness to balance it out.  25 hours in a day would be better anyway - then I wouldn't be stuck with partial bottles of 5-Hour Energy.


This made me giggle far more than it should have.

Well done!
 
2013-02-12 02:24:20 PM  

vudukungfu: I was around when they implemented it and I thought (rightfully so) that grown ups were always farking up a good thing.
I never thought I would live long enough to see a grow up pull his head out of his ass and actually challenge the masses of asses and say, bullshiat. this silliness has gone on long enough.


You were in Germany in 1916?
 
2013-02-12 02:25:37 PM  
I enjoy the change and would prefer that we adjust our clocks by 30 minuets quarterly.
 
2013-02-12 02:25:58 PM  
Well, the days are getting longer thanks to Global Warming
 
2013-02-12 02:26:11 PM  

olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.


In a service industry based state, sunlight in the evenings makes more sense than in the mornings. I know I would rather work as the sun raises and get 9 holes in after work in January.
 
2013-02-12 02:27:55 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I enjoy the change and would prefer that we adjust our clocks by 30 minuets quarterly.


That could be tough to orchestrate.
 
2013-02-12 02:27:57 PM  
www.megook.com
 
2013-02-12 02:28:29 PM  

olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.





THIS

THIS
THIS

 
2013-02-12 02:29:19 PM  
Why can't we just eliminate Mondays? Turn the clock forward 24 hours each week. Simple!
 
2013-02-12 02:33:41 PM  

doubled99: Why can't we just eliminate Mondays? Turn the clock forward 24 hours each week. Simple!


I've been posting for years about Weekend Saving Time. At one point during the year, turn the calendar from Sunday night to Friday night; six months later, turn the calendar from Wednesday night to Friday night.
 
2013-02-12 02:35:18 PM  
Weird because he also filed SB 382 to exempt the state from Daylight Savings Time.  That bill was withdrawn.  Guess he got it backwards...
 
2013-02-12 02:36:18 PM  
Get up earlier then, idiot.
 
2013-02-12 02:36:59 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.


THIS
THIS
THIS


Um yes, most people understand this concept (not everyone, but the people who don't get it aren't really worth talking about).

In Seattle the days get pretty short so for a while I leave work in total darkness most days. It's depressing. I would much prefer if the sun set an hour "later" so I could see a teensy bit of light when leave work.
 
2013-02-12 02:42:06 PM  
I see a lot of people posting that seem to think we are currently on Daylight Saving Time. We're not.
 
2013-02-12 02:43:01 PM  
I live in AZ, not changing times is great, being on standard time stinks on ice.  I would much rather it stay lighter later in the day.  Working on the yard or cars gets regulated to the weekends because it gets dark too early.  I would gladly drive to work in the dark if it meant more daylight time after work.

Advise to the rest of the country

Quit changing times.  Pick DST not standard time
 
2013-02-12 02:45:11 PM  

cherry3m: Weird because he also filed SB 382 to exempt the state from Daylight Savings Time.  That bill was withdrawn.  Guess he got it backwards...


No, it probably is because people hate the idea of staying on ST and prefer DST because of the extra sunlight in the evenings in the summer.

What he should do is confuse everyone and just propose that Florida stay on GMT -X
 
2013-02-12 02:46:12 PM  
the guy who wants to golf at 6pm never has gotten up early
to get an hour at the end of the day you lose one at the beginning
so just change the time 1/2 hour and make everyone happy
 
2013-02-12 02:47:16 PM  
Surprised everything is staying with the argument that they want to stay on DST. In reality what hes asking for is to move FL to a different time Zone. (UTC -4:00). If you're not changing times at all, then you're not participating in DST.
 
2013-02-12 02:47:31 PM  

olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.


Yeah, but the time frame the sun shines changes thanks to DST, and companies don't change their operating hours to accommodate it.
 
2013-02-12 02:48:22 PM  
 
2013-02-12 02:50:13 PM  
I think one hour of DST isn't enough. At least two are needed. Heck, to make it stay light really late, make it 24 hours. And then make it permanent.
 
2013-02-12 02:50:45 PM  
All the sheeple, needing uncle Sam to tell them when to shiat and eat.
 
2013-02-12 02:51:31 PM  
DST is stupid, we should just have "time" like they do in other places. You want to see the sun in the morning? Wake up earlier or later, as the year progresses.
 
2013-02-12 02:51:36 PM  
That's why I measure time in seconds since January 1, 1970
 
2013-02-12 02:52:19 PM  
DST is less for you southern states, and more for us northern states.

Keeping on standard time in Seattle/New York? Enjoy 4am sunrises in June.

Keeping on DST in the winter in Seattle/New York? Look forward to 9am sunrises.
 
2013-02-12 02:54:49 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: That's why I measure time in seconds since January 1, 1970


I hope your processor has more than 32 bits.

/Or you're very old
//Like I am
 
2013-02-12 02:54:58 PM  

MrSteve007: DST is less for you southern states, and more for us northern states.

Keeping on standard time in Seattle/New York? Enjoy 4am sunrises in June.

Keeping on DST in the winter in Seattle/New York? Look forward to 9am sunrises.


So an hour either way won't really help much.
 
2013-02-12 02:55:03 PM  

ph0rk: DST is stupid, we should just have "time" like they do in other places. You want to see the sun in the morning? Wake up earlier or later, as the year progresses.


No...DST is the right way to go in the real world, where people need to get shiat done after work/school, walk the dog, get some exercise, etc. It isn't matter of getting up earlier to see the sun. It's not having to go to work in the dark and get home in the dark.
 
2013-02-12 02:56:16 PM  

ph0rk: DST is stupid, we should just have "time" like they do in other places. You want to see the sun in the morning? Wake up earlier or later, as the year progresses.


You do know that almost all of Europe uses it to, right?
 
2013-02-12 02:56:41 PM  

LesterB: HaywoodJablonski: That's why I measure time in seconds since January 1, 1970

I hope your processor has more than 32 bits.

/Or you're very old
//Like I am


How old is very old?
 
2013-02-12 02:56:53 PM  
too
 
2013-02-12 02:57:42 PM  
When I lived in Germany I was at 50 degrees north latitude, 70 miles farther north than the northern border of the continental US.

It would get dark around 10 PM, twilight gloom would linger till near midnight, then around 2 AM it would start to show pre--dawn glimmer.

Of course in winter it sucked: 7 hours of sunlight, 17 degrees of sun in the sky at noon, and cloudy days 9 out of 10.
 
2013-02-12 02:58:28 PM  

kericr: olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.

Yeah, but the time frame the sun shines changes thanks to DST, and companies don't change their operating hours to accommodate it.


I saw a poll done about a decade ago that said 70% of people would prefer to stay on DST, 18% liked the change, 7% wanted to stay on standard time and 5% didn't care.  70% is better than a super majority, change the whole country to DST and leave it there.
 
2013-02-12 03:01:05 PM  
Personally, I think I am going to start voting strictly on a politician's DST policy. If you are for setting DST as the time year round, you get my vote. Once we get that resolved, I will go back to other issues. Seriously, how many people work a regular schedule anymore. My hours are 7-3:30. When I don't work at home, I have a long commute. In the winter, if I have to go to the office, I won't see my house in the daylight. It's exhausting and depressing.
 
2013-02-12 03:02:51 PM  

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: But won't the extra hour of sunlight contribute to global warming?


^^^This^^^
 
2013-02-12 03:03:56 PM  

Stone Meadow: ph0rk: DST is stupid, we should just have "time" like they do in other places. You want to see the sun in the morning? Wake up earlier or later, as the year progresses.

No...DST is the right way to go in the real world, where people need to get shiat done after work/school, walk the dog, get some exercise, etc. It isn't matter of getting up earlier to see the sun. It's not having to go to work in the dark and get home in the dark.


Then it should be progressively more of a time-swing the farther one gets from the equator.

We're getting farther and farther form the 9-5 day, though, so some people are going to be farked either way, particularly 2nd and 3rd shifts. Why should they have to deal with time farking itself in the ass twice a year so the privileged first shifters can get more sun?

/No dog in the race, I work at best four hours a day.
 
2013-02-12 03:06:30 PM  
This whole unpleasantness could be solved simply by building a glass clock.

/why yes, I am reading Thief Of Time currently.  why do you ask?
 
2013-02-12 03:07:23 PM  

abfalter: If the sun rises at 2:30am

  0230. Get rid of "AM" and "PM" too.
 
2013-02-12 03:13:56 PM  

Gig103: abfalter: If the sun rises at 2:30am  0230. Get rid of "AM" and "PM" too.


I've been married for 25 years and my wife still accuses me of using military time just to annoy and confuse her.
 
2013-02-12 03:16:18 PM  

havocmike: while his rationale is stupid, his goal is noble.

seriously, we haven't been an agrarian society for over 100 years. enough of this clock changing horseshiat.


DST has nothing to do with farmers. Cows can't read clocks.

It's all really just an elaborate excuse to tell employers who are rigidly fixated on an 8-5 work schedule that they need to switch to 7-4.
 
2013-02-12 03:20:26 PM  
It's about time.
 
2013-02-12 03:26:03 PM  

Wellon Dowd: You were in Germany in 1916?


Any idea how old I am?
I'm so farking old, I'm looking at a milk man receipt in my pocket here from 1936.
Really.


/I need to cleanout my pockets.
 
2013-02-12 03:28:31 PM  
The smartest thing to ever come out of Florida. Give it fifty years and we'll be revoking the Florida tag too.
 
2013-02-12 03:29:09 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I enjoy the change and would prefer that we adjust our clocks by 30 minuets quarterly.



10 minutes monthly would be better.
 
2013-02-12 03:31:35 PM  
all the northeners biatching about how rmoving dst makes it dark "in the morning" during winter.  I live in soutrh florida, according to one of the first results for boca raton florida sunrise on google .  Dawn was 6:34am, sunrise 6:58am. sunset will be 6:11pm, & sunset 6:35 for a grand total of 11 hours & 13 minutes of daylight.  3 months from now it will be dawn at 6:10am, sunrise at at 6:35AM.  Dusk at 8:24 PM sunset at 7:9PM for a grand total of 13 hours & 24 minutes.
Because of how close we are to the equator in florida (especially south), "dark" here is nothing like dark way up north where some of my family lives.  I for one hope this passes, flipping the clock around is farking stupid in this day and age
 
2013-02-12 03:31:45 PM  

abfalter: I hate the idea of DST.

In fact, if I were World Emperor I'd just tell everyone to switch to using GMT regardless of their locale.  If the sun rises at 2:30am in your locale then you get up and go to work at 3:30am (or whatever).  But 2:30am would be 2:30am no matter where you were.


Bah... get with the times you commie.  Swatch .beats is where it's at
 
2013-02-12 03:37:37 PM  

Amos Quito: It's about time.


It's about space.
 
2013-02-12 03:39:20 PM  

Stone Meadow: I wish California would stay on DST year 'round. The change-over farks me up for a week each time.


Wow...it sounds like you've had a real hard life!
 
2013-02-12 03:40:11 PM  
If you can't figure out +/- 1 hour in a 4 month span...do us all a favor and kill yourself.
 
2013-02-12 03:40:33 PM  
If we eliminate daylight saving time how will I know when to change the batteries in my smoke detector??

/Won't somebody please think of the charred dinner?
 
2013-02-12 03:41:28 PM  
looking at bangor maine 3 months from now dawn will be at 4:35am, (as opposed to 6:10AM today), sunrise5:09AM.  Dusk 8:30pm, sunset 7:55pm, the length of daylight there today is 11:20, 3 months from now it will be15:45, 6 months from now 15:13.
Florida doesn't farking need clock farking like they do up north because the day is pretty much the same all year long resulting in the fact that shiat other than drive thru's, some breakfast places, & 24 hour places dont  normally open at 6am & other ridiculous hours. oh boohoo people that start work at 5am will be driving in the "dark"
 
2013-02-12 03:43:41 PM  

ph0rk: Stone Meadow: ph0rk: DST is stupid, we should just have "time" like they do in other places. You want to see the sun in the morning? Wake up earlier or later, as the year progresses.

No...DST is the right way to go in the real world, where people need to get shiat done after work/school, walk the dog, get some exercise, etc. It isn't matter of getting up earlier to see the sun. It's not having to go to work in the dark and get home in the dark.

Then it should be progressively more of a time-swing the farther one gets from the equator.


Yes, and some countries (IIRC Portugal and Spain...possibly others) do that. Nonetheless, that may not work for everyone. Some years ago work took me to Anchorage for two weeks right before Christmas. It didn't start to get light until after 10am, and was dark by 2pm. Everyone massaged their work/school hours to have time off during those few hours to get outside to let the sun burn some rays into their brains. All of that aside, one or two hours at most would work for the vast majority of Americans.

We're getting farther and farther form the 9-5 day, though, so some people are going to be farked either way, particularly 2nd and 3rd shifts. Why should they have to deal with time farking itself in the ass twice a year so the privileged first shifters can get more sun?

It's easier for 2nd and 3rd shift workers as they aren't working during normal daylight hours...duh! Go outside brfore or after work to get some light. It's only normal 1st shift workers and school children that need DST.
 
2013-02-12 03:44:47 PM  

Jument: MaudlinMutantMollusk: olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.


THIS
THIS
THIS

Um yes, most people understand this concept (not everyone, but the people who don't get it aren't really worth talking about).

In Seattle the days get pretty short so for a while I leave work in total darkness most days. It's depressing. I would much prefer if the sun set an hour "later" so I could see a teensy bit of light when leave work.


Yes, this time of year it's like, "Have plans that require daylight but you work a full-time 8-5 job, well you're shiat out of luck until the weekend." Hooray for inefficiency.
 
2013-02-12 03:45:55 PM  
if you look at those florida sunrise/set numbers, coincidentally they pretty much only shift more than ~30 min because of the farking timechange if you work hours that don't involve being out the door at 4am, it's pretty much always going to be not-dark on your way in, & vice versa on your way home
 
2013-02-12 03:46:00 PM  

Circusdog320: Stone Meadow: I wish California would stay on DST year 'round. The change-over farks me up for a week each time.

Wow...it sounds like you've had a real hard life!


Not really, but at 60 it's starting to really affect me. It also got worse when the government shifted the dates a few years ago.
 
2013-02-12 03:48:29 PM  

Frehar: Amos Quito: It's about time.

It's about space.


And a three hour tour.
 
2013-02-12 03:49:06 PM  

spittman: Personally, I think I am going to start voting strictly on a politician's DST policy. If you are for setting DST as the time year round, you get my vote. Once we get that resolved, I will go back to other issues. Seriously, how many people work a regular schedule anymore. My hours are 7-3:30. When I don't work at home, I have a long commute. In the winter, if I have to go to the office, I won't see my house in the daylight. It's exhausting and depressing.


Well, we should ALL conform to YOUR needs then, obviously.

Are you a millennial by the way?
 
2013-02-12 03:53:25 PM  

Stone Meadow: It's easier for 2nd and 3rd shift workers as they aren't working during normal daylight hours...duh! Go outside brfore or after work to get some light. It's only normal 1st shift workers and school children that need DST.


first shifters in florida would need to be in the door at work at like 5am for it to be dark ion their commute, it doesn't get dark like what they call dusk up north until like well never, but it doesn't get dark by florida standards until ~8pm/9pmish.  If you are working 15 hour shifts at work, you probably don't give a fark about anything other than eating dinner & going to bed,  The rest of us don't need to suffer because you want to drive in the sun a bit  during your 70+ hour weeks
 
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2013-02-12 03:54:34 PM  

Frehar: Amos Quito: It's about time.

It's about space.


Nice.
 
2013-02-12 03:56:32 PM  
It's pretty simple really; at noon the sun should be at it's highest point in the sky (unless you are standing at the poles).
If we don't do it that way, we might as well use UTC globally.
 
2013-02-12 04:05:13 PM  

Kyosuke: Here are your choices, folks:

No daylight saving(s) time: Sun comes up at a god-awful early hour in the summer, goes down before your are ready.

Permanent daylight saving(s) time: Winter sun comes up late, so you get to drive to work in the dark while your children stand around at a dark cold bus stop.

It makes sense if you put some thought into it.

Or you can just whine about the time changes.


As someone who lives in a state that happily did NOT change their clocks twice a year until recently, and had kids going to school, I can say - not an issue.  We are at the very western edge of the Eastern Time Zone, so our sunrises were always late, but who effing cares?  The kids stood in the morning twilight for the bus, but that was never a problem, and we never felt like we ran out of daylight at the end of the day.

However, the time change twice a year wrecking your internal clock BLOWS.  And, as some studies indicates (although I hesitate to use the word "show" or "prove"), the time changes make things more dangerous, as sleepy people go off driving to work.

Changing the clocks, either to standard or DST, does close to nothing advantageous.  Dump it.
 
2013-02-12 04:10:20 PM  
As I understand it, Daylight Savings Time saved resources during the war by giving factory workers and farmers an extra hour of free, convenient light in which to work without artificial light, which meant burning a lot of coal or oil. But it doesn't always work that way and certainly does work as well as it did in the 1940s.

Nowadays, what you gain by essentially changing your hours is offset by such costs as Air Conditioning in the South (and everywhere else, seeing as we are now big wusses), while the system never did work as well in the North. In Canada, for example, it means that it gets dark around 4:30 p.m. (16:30) in the Winter months, which IS TOO DAMN EARLY.  There's little or no saving and further North, where the "real" North begins, it simply doesn't save anything.

Farmers never did like the time change because their cattle don't understand clock time and have to be milked at the same "real" time, which is inconvenient enough as it is.

I don't know about remaining on daylight saving time. It wouldn't be good for Canada. Apart from the misery it causes and the costs involved, all our American TV shows would be at the wrong time. This is basically why Canada goes along with the US--our economies tend to run North-South which means it is really inconvenient and costly to be out of sync. We pay the price of stupid DST because this is worse.

There aren't many farmers left and those who are tied to the natural rhythms of nature by livestock demanding to be milked or whatever, just have to live with it because Nature is not going anywhere for now.

But I wish that they would stop this foolish fiddling with the time. Pick one clock time and stick to it. We can't make everybody happy, and some areas will prefer to join the next time zone over for practical reasons that are regional or local, but the rest of us shouldn't have to deal with this grief.

I am looking forward to being able to walk home from work without a bicycle lamp flashing on my person. I will probably be much healthier and cheerier when I can see the Sun for at least half an hour a day, some days.

This sub-Arctic city was not built on Rock 'n' Roll. It was built on coffee and doughnuts (in the US, one third less, as "donuts"--even when spelling we pay a Canadian premium, dammit).
 
2013-02-12 04:14:25 PM  

SewerSquirrels: It's pretty simple really; at noon the sun should be at it's highest point in the sky (unless you are standing at the poles).
If we don't do it that way, we might as well use UTC globally.


So you are for the elimination of time zones? 'Cause for a given day, at most one line of longitude will experience this situation per time zone.
 
2013-02-12 04:15:21 PM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I enjoy the change and would prefer that we adjust our clocks by 30 minuets quarterly.


I'd like to see an estimate of economic impact.

Didn't Apple recently fark up DST on one of their iPhones?

Even if I got that wrong IT managers will ask their staff if they're prepared for the time change. And bear in mind that it's not just testing to make sure the OS time will change. You've got payroll systems that need to calculate pay and overtime properly.

We should just abolish it completely.

Just adjust to where you live. If you live closer to a pole, the sun will come up later and go down sooner in the winter.
 
2013-02-12 04:16:25 PM  
I hate DST, and I hate W's extra long DST so it messes with trying to sync up with the rest of the world and wastes money for everyone to compensate for it when working across international boundaries.

Can we just decide what timezone we're in and be done with it? I don't care if we freeze on +5 or +6 for the East coast. Just decide already!
 
2013-02-12 04:16:38 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: LesterB: HaywoodJablonski: That's why I measure time in seconds since January 1, 1970

I hope your processor has more than 32 bits.

/Or you're very old
//Like I am

How old is very old?


Old enough to be dead before 2038 I guess...
 
2013-02-12 04:17:08 PM  

Every municipality needs to keep it's own clock -- it's the libertarian thing to do.  Ayn Rand would like it.
So the 4:15 from the east hits the 5:15 from the west just because every ten miles the clock is set to something else.


Small price for freedom.
i1237.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-12 04:19:33 PM  

Amos Quito: Frehar: Amos Quito: It's about time.

It's about space.

And a three hour tour.


A three hour tour.
 
2013-02-12 04:21:10 PM  
I don't understand why people are complaining... Just open your blinds in your office and you will get a ton of sunlight.
 
2013-02-12 04:21:29 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Can we just decide what timezone we're in and be done with it? I don't care if we freeze on +5 or +6 for the East coast. Just decide already!


As we currently go -5 or -6 on the East Coast, a change to +5/6 would be extremely disruptive.
 
2013-02-12 04:39:54 PM  

olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.



You sound like a clockblocker.
 
2013-02-12 04:41:48 PM  
We should go back to local sun time where noon depends on you line of longitude. If your watch is tied to GPS it will adjust automatically to the time in your location.
 
2013-02-12 04:47:44 PM  
It's not like this hasn't been tried before (late 70s). The biggest problem is that kids going to school need flashlights at like 8:30am and it's a dark morning rush hour. It's just dangerous.
 
2013-02-12 04:50:23 PM  

Rich Cream: It's not like this hasn't been tried before (late 70s)


*this may have been only in NJ.
 
2013-02-12 04:55:30 PM  

Rich Cream: It's not like this hasn't been tried before (late 70s). The biggest problem is that kids going to school need flashlights at like 8:30am and it's a dark morning rush hour. It's just dangerous.


dark in florida is not like dark in NJ & it's so much closer to the equator that the time change is rediculous
 
2013-02-12 05:00:38 PM  

BizarreMan: The Irresponsible Captain: Can we just decide what timezone we're in and be done with it? I don't care if we freeze on +5 or +6 for the East coast. Just decide already!

As we currently go -5 or -6 on the East Coast, a change to +5/6 would be extremely disruptive.


Yup, one of them sighny things from my math learnin'.
 
2013-02-12 05:17:09 PM  
I don't get where this "extra" hour is coming from. There's still a fixed amount of daylight every day.
 
2013-02-12 05:29:31 PM  

show me: SewerSquirrels: It's pretty simple really; at noon the sun should be at it's highest point in the sky (unless you are standing at the poles).
If we don't do it that way, we might as well use UTC globally.

So you are for the elimination of time zones? 'Cause for a given day, at most one line of longitude will experience this situation per time zone.


I thought about saying "closest to the highest point in the sky per time zone", but I thought that sounded a little pedantic. DST throws it off 15 degrees which is stupid. No wonder we don't have show downs anymore; "high noon" doesn't exist for over 6 months of the year.

I'm down with UTC, yeah you know me.
 
2013-02-12 05:49:02 PM  

SoundOfOneHandWanking: I don't get where this "extra" hour is coming from. There's still a fixed amount of daylight every day.


I tell my boss this but he still wont let me leave at 4.
 
2013-02-12 05:49:25 PM  

olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.


Exactly. Just get your lazy asses out of bed an hour earlier. And put your sleepy asses in bed an hour earlier.

/But, it's the  Solar System!
 
2013-02-12 06:08:03 PM  

JesseL: havocmike: while his rationale is stupid, his goal is noble.

seriously, we haven't been an agrarian society for over 100 years. enough of this clock changing horseshiat.

DST has nothing to do with farmers. Cows can't read clocks.

It's all really just an elaborate excuse to tell employers who are rigidly fixated on an 8-5 work schedule that they need to switch to 7-4.


Employers, employees, customers, students...we all just need to get it our heads that it's OK to start work at 8am all year long. Energy efficiency in the manufacturing sector? This is the US, there is no manufacturing sector, unless it's 24/7. Office energy efficiency? Lights are all on when the office is open, if the sun is up or not. School safety? Walking to school in a foggy, hazy, icy dawn is not inherently safer than walking home in the dark.
 
2013-02-12 07:10:55 PM  

kidgenius: In this day and age it really makes absolutely no sense to move between the two.  We should just stay on day light savings time and be done with it.


Yeah, seriously. Make fun fo the cranky old man all you like, but there's NO GOOD REASON for this to still be a thing.
 
2013-02-12 07:16:42 PM  

max_pooper: olddinosaur: Bucking for a STUPID tag.

The sun shines the same amount of time no matter what the clock says.

And we have a winner


yes but when you push the clock up an hour and you get off at work at 6 / its dark compared to getting off an hour earlier when its still light
 
2013-02-12 07:44:16 PM  

kidgenius: In this day and age it really makes absolutely no sense to move between the two.  We should just stay on day light savings time and be done with it.




Freaks people out. Think mini-Y2K.
 
2013-02-12 07:47:22 PM  

Millennium: Dammit; here I was all ready to criticize Subby for making light of Seasonal Affective Disorder, only to find out that this seems to actually be what's going through the lawmaker's head.


No, it actually doesn't.

The Orlando Democrat said he sponsored the bill  because he gets frustrated that it gets dark earlier during the winter.

It always gets dark earlier during the winter, even if you stay on DST. It happens, it's called "seasons." Even on DST, it's still going to be darker earlier, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
 
2013-02-12 07:59:01 PM  

felching pen: JesseL: havocmike: while his rationale is stupid, his goal is noble.

seriously, we haven't been an agrarian society for over 100 years. enough of this clock changing horseshiat.

DST has nothing to do with farmers. Cows can't read clocks.

It's all really just an elaborate excuse to tell employers who are rigidly fixated on an 8-5 work schedule that they need to switch to 7-4.

Employers, employees, customers, students...we all just need to get it our heads that it's OK to start work at 8am all year long. Energy efficiency in the manufacturing sector? This is the US, there is no manufacturing sector, unless it's 24/7. Office energy efficiency? Lights are all on when the office is open, if the sun is up or not. School safety? Walking to school in a foggy, hazy, icy dawn is not inherently safer than walking home in the dark.


As far as electric lights go, it's an even worse argument than that.  While daylight saving time made sense in the 1930's as a way to conserve energy by discouraging the use of electric light, electric lights have become far more energy-efficient in the decades since then, and other everyday items (such as refrigerators) now dwarf the energy consumption of electric lights.

C. G. P. Grey has an excellent video on the history of daylight saving time and why it made sense then but not now.
 
2013-02-12 08:31:00 PM  
I don't care whether you choose DST or ST permanently, but as long as it's a fixed offset from UTC I'd be happier.  Too bad this isn't in California where I live.

However, I *won't* be happy about having to modify my company's products to understand the new Florida timezone.
 
2013-02-12 08:35:30 PM  

anfrind: As far as electric lights go, it's an even worse argument than that. While daylight saving time made sense in the 1930's as a way to conserve energy by discouraging the use of electric light, electric lights have become far more energy-efficient in the decades since then, and other everyday items (such as refrigerators) now dwarf the energy consumption of electric lights.


/sign

With Daylight-Saving Time, during the summer, you come home from work/school when it's still sunny outside, with your house still warm.  Without DST, you come home to a dark but cooler house.  Air conditioning simply dwarfs even the most energy-efficient incandescent light bulbs.
 
2013-02-12 08:53:49 PM  
a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com

"I promised every floridian that you will all be rich, because we're gonna print some more money! Why didn't anybody ever think of this before?"
 
2013-02-12 08:54:05 PM  
ATTENTION PEOPLE: Daylight saving time is during the summer not the winter. Right now we are on real time.
 
2013-02-12 08:55:26 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Millennium: Dammit; here I was all ready to criticize Subby for making light of Seasonal Affective Disorder, only to find out that this seems to actually be what's going through the lawmaker's head.

No, it actually doesn't.

The Orlando Democrat said he sponsored the bill  because he gets frustrated that it gets dark earlier during the winter.

It always gets dark earlier during the winter, even if you stay on DST. It happens, it's called "seasons." Even on DST, it's still going to be darker earlier, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.


But come on, you can admit that the difference is incredibly dramatic the week before and after the time change. One week the sun is low every day in midafternoon, the next week it's full dark. Given that most people still get off in midafternoon, kids and adults alike, DST year-round (aka changing time zones) is the better solution. Shift workers are screwed no matter what the time is like, since they rarely have the same shift day-to-day anyway.

Indiana has the right idea. By geography alone, they should be in central time, but the benefits of all that extra daylight convinced them to stay on mostly eastern. I would gladly vote for more late-day sunlight over more morning sunlight any day. Louisville keeps it for the same reason.
 
2013-02-12 08:58:58 PM  

MindStalker: Florida is pretty far west and close to the Central Time Zone. They should just put the entire state in Central Zone and be done with it.


Fark that, why? That would do exactly the opposite, it'd make days end even earlier.

/Is there a name for prince edward island time zone?
 
2013-02-12 09:23:15 PM  
Growing up in FL the early sunsets were kind of annoying but when I moved up to NY and it would get dark at 4pm, sucked imo.  I used to go into the City at 3:30 in the winter and it would be dark by the time I got there.

/white northern peoples problems.
//in favor of this proposal even while back in FL
 
2013-02-12 09:34:01 PM  
give this man the HERO tag and get rid of the time change!
 
2013-02-12 09:34:30 PM  

foxyshadis: Indiana has the right idea. By geography alone, they should be in central time, but the benefits of all that extra daylight convinced them to stay on mostly eastern. I would gladly vote for more late-day sunlight over more morning sunlight any day. Louisville keeps it for the same reason.


As long as it's a fixed offset from UTC year-round, that's fine by me.
 
2013-02-12 10:57:11 PM  

topcon: It's the way it should be all the time.  It's inane we're still using this ridiculous time change system. It's much nicer (and more useful) when it stays daylight later.


A long blanket is nice, too. Do you cut a foot off one end of yours and sew it onto the other?

There's nothing magic about the name of the hour that school starts, or businesses open, or anything else. Change what you call the time, and they'll just change their schedule so.

All you're doing is changing the freaking NAME.
 
2013-02-12 10:57:20 PM  
I've had this idea before.  The only way to improve it would be never going DST in the first place.
I really hope they pull it off and other states follow.

/I just agreed with Florida
//Grumpy Indiana native
 
2013-02-12 11:22:17 PM  

Worldwalker: topcon: It's the way it should be all the time.  It's inane we're still using this ridiculous time change system. It's much nicer (and more useful) when it stays daylight later.

A long blanket is nice, too. Do you cut a foot off one end of yours and sew it onto the other?

There's nothing magic about the name of the hour that school starts, or businesses open, or anything else. Change what you call the time, and they'll just change their schedule so.

All you're doing is changing the freaking NAME.


Because every business changes their hours when DST starts and ends.
 
2013-02-12 11:51:29 PM  
I would think the guy would get sad everytime that he is reminded that he lives in Florida.
 
2013-02-13 12:43:37 AM  
Try getting up earlier you retard.  This guy puts the duh in Floriduh.
 
2013-02-13 12:45:37 AM  

KyDave: kidgenius: In this day and age it really makes absolutely no sense to move between the two.  We should just stay on day light savings time and be done with it.

Yeah - the lose-an-hour \ gain-an-hour thing just screws everything up. I've always wondered why we don't just set the clocks back 1/2 hour... and leave them the hell alone.


That's what India does.  It seems to work for them.
 
2013-02-13 12:52:38 AM  

Worldwalker: All you're doing is changing the freaking NAME.


That freaking NAME matters. It's the difference between it being dusk vs pitch black at 6 and 7 pm.

I know it's cute to say "well just get up earlier" or similar, but most of us have jobs. Jobs that do not adjust hours for the amount of sunlight at the given time of day.

I don't particularly care  what standard we end up on, but just  pick one and stop farking with the clocks!

/it guy
//DST change causes SOMETHING to fark up every single year
 
2013-02-13 12:54:35 AM  
Those of us who live in the north mock all of you.  Eskimo style.
 
2013-02-13 05:35:12 AM  
Daylight Saving time is the dumbest thing ever. You're just pretending it's an hour later than it actually is. I don't care which you go with, Standard time or Daylight, just pick one and be done with it. And why do they bother to call it Standard time anymore? It's less than half the year, there's really nothing standard about it anymore!

/end Andy Rooney style rant
 
2013-02-13 07:43:55 AM  
The Orlando Democrat said he sponsored the bill because he gets frustrated that it gets dark earlier during the winter.

Welcome to living on planet Earth. That's how the farking planet works. Less sun during the winter for people who live in the northern hemisphere.

Of course it would be a Democrat who thinks he deserves a more equal share of the planet's sunshine.
 
2013-02-13 08:51:46 AM  

foxyshadis: Worldwalker: topcon: It's the way it should be all the time.  It's inane we're still using this ridiculous time change system. It's much nicer (and more useful) when it stays daylight later.

A long blanket is nice, too. Do you cut a foot off one end of yours and sew it onto the other?

There's nothing magic about the name of the hour that school starts, or businesses open, or anything else. Change what you call the time, and they'll just change their schedule so.

All you're doing is changing the freaking NAME.

Because every business changes their hours when DST starts and ends.


Not a lot, because it's temporary. But if they make it permanent, you can bet they'll start changing their hours.

Here's a question: why do you think businesses picked 9 to 5 (or some other set of hours) in the first place? Was it because there's something magical about "9"? Was it because there's something magical about "5"? Or ... maybe ... was it because that's a convenient time relevant to the hours of sun?

Again: "year-round DST" doesn't change anything except what you call the hours. They've already said in the article they'll have to change school hours ... and, in time, everything else will follow. You can call it 9 am or 10 am or Fred, it doesn't matter.
 
2013-02-13 03:40:35 PM  
fark standard time.  I'd much rather have my daylight in the evenings.  yeah, the length of daylight is the same no matter what you call it.  You know what?  I still have to be at work at 7:30 AM.  So if it's dark at 5 PM, I get home and no daylight.  It gets dark at 9 PM, I have a full evening of daylight to get shiat done, even if it's sitting on my porch drinking beer.
 
2013-02-15 01:40:46 PM  

The Onion is prophetic: Florida: Striving to be Arizona.


Except Arizona got it right and stays on  standard time year round.
 
2013-02-15 01:42:00 PM  

topcon: It's the way it should be all the time.  It's inane we're still using this ridiculous time change system. It's much nicer (and more useful) when it stays daylight later.


You can get up and go to bed an hour earlier without putting the clock an hour out of synch with reality.
 
2013-02-15 01:44:02 PM  

Kyosuke: Oh look, a thread full of people who don't understand why daylight savings time exists.


Because the laws never reverted after the war effort ended with a bang in Hitler's bunker.
 
2013-02-15 01:46:03 PM  

CheekyMonkey: doubled99: Daylight Savings is as useless and outdated a concept as the metric system.

We should all switch to Metric time.


Ugh, my company uses that.  It's 12.75h right now...
 
2013-02-15 01:50:03 PM  

Anthracite: Farmers can farm their fields around the setting of the sun and the rising.. Hey wait they do that already. Its just the rest of us that actually run by the clock.

GET RID OF IT ALREADY!


Farmers don't like DST because it moves market times an hour off what they should be, giving them less time to start their day and get to market.
 
2013-02-15 01:58:34 PM  

Baloo Uriza: CheekyMonkey: doubled99: Daylight Savings is as useless and outdated a concept as the metric system.

We should all switch to Metric time.

Ugh, my company uses that.  It's 12.75h right now...


I have a clock hanging on my living room wall, made out of a 12-inch square slate tile.  The hour markings are just round divots in the slate, made with a half-inch drill bit.  One of these days, I'm going to make one with only 10 hour markings, just to fark with people...
 
2013-02-15 02:36:24 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Baloo Uriza: CheekyMonkey: doubled99: Daylight Savings is as useless and outdated a concept as the metric system.

We should all switch to Metric time.

Ugh, my company uses that.  It's 12.75h right now...

I have a clock hanging on my living room wall, made out of a 12-inch square slate tile.  The hour markings are just round divots in the slate, made with a half-inch drill bit.  One of these days, I'm going to make one with only 10 hour markings, just to fark with people...


I guess I should be more specific.  We use the standard hours, but divide it into 100 centihours instead of 60 minutes.
 
2013-02-15 02:42:38 PM  

Baloo Uriza: CheekyMonkey: Baloo Uriza: CheekyMonkey: doubled99: Daylight Savings is as useless and outdated a concept as the metric system.

We should all switch to Metric time.

Ugh, my company uses that.  It's 12.75h right now...

I have a clock hanging on my living room wall, made out of a 12-inch square slate tile.  The hour markings are just round divots in the slate, made with a half-inch drill bit.  One of these days, I'm going to make one with only 10 hour markings, just to fark with people...

I guess I should be more specific.  We use the standard hours, but divide it into 100 centihours instead of 60 minutes.


So, half-Metric time.  Why does your company do that?
 
2013-02-15 03:18:32 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Baloo Uriza: CheekyMonkey: Baloo Uriza: CheekyMonkey: doubled99: Daylight Savings is as useless and outdated a concept as the metric system.

We should all switch to Metric time.

Ugh, my company uses that.  It's 12.75h right now...

I have a clock hanging on my living room wall, made out of a 12-inch square slate tile.  The hour markings are just round divots in the slate, made with a half-inch drill bit.  One of these days, I'm going to make one with only 10 hour markings, just to fark with people...

I guess I should be more specific.  We use the standard hours, but divide it into 100 centihours instead of 60 minutes.

So, half-Metric time.  Why does your company do that?


HR likes it for payroll.
 
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