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2013-02-12 11:38:25 AM
'Hero' tag sleeping in today?
 
2013-02-12 11:47:38 AM
FTFA:    "Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

Since that's precisely what science means, then yeah.  You are eliminating that.
 
2013-02-12 11:54:13 AM
Never a better use of the 'Obvious' tag. Creationism is  NOTscience (no matter how desperately they try to package it as such). Therefore it's a no-brainer that it should NOT be taught in science classes.
If your school has an elective theology course, then sure...go nuts with the creationism in that class.
 
2013-02-12 12:09:55 PM
media.giantbomb.com
 
2013-02-12 12:28:15 PM

unyon: FTFA:    "Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

Since that's precisely what science means, then yeah.  You are eliminating that.


We found Ric Romero's reading base.
 
2013-02-12 12:44:25 PM
"Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

YES WE ARE YOU STUPID FARKING coont!
 
2013-02-12 01:17:26 PM
I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

...in english class, where they teach all the other fantasy novels and fantastic, implausible ideas.
 
2013-02-12 01:18:37 PM
"Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

This is what happens when a republican tries to ask a 'gotcha' question.

Guess you stupid liberal commie atheist socialist pinko libtards didn't think your cunning plan all the way through, now did you?
 
2013-02-12 01:18:49 PM

unyon: FTFA:    "Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

Since that's precisely what science means, then yeah.  You are eliminating that.


Apparently it's too much to just take your damn kids to church if you want to indoctrinate them.
 
2013-02-12 01:20:08 PM
"Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).
That's exactly what it means, you stupid twunt. Keep your bronze age superstitions to yourself.
 
2013-02-12 01:20:22 PM
"Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).

Yes. That is EXACTLY what it means.
 
2013-02-12 01:20:24 PM
"Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

Is this chick for real?
 
2013-02-12 01:21:00 PM

Arkanaut: unyon: FTFA:    "Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

Since that's precisely what science means, then yeah.  You are eliminating that.

Apparently it's too much to just take your damn kids to church if you want to indoctrinate them.


Or sending them to a private school.  The Catholics have been doing it since forever, why in the hell won't these asshats?
 
2013-02-12 01:21:03 PM
Good lord! Sanity from texas education?

Wonder how long this'll last?
 
2013-02-12 01:21:54 PM
Creationists will just come up with a new name for their nonsense before they start pushing it again.
 
2013-02-12 01:22:55 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

...in english class, where they teach all the other fantasy novels and fantastic, implausible ideas.


Back when I was in high school, we spent most of our lunch periods in the library. One day, my friend Bill notices the Bible was in the mythology section.

Bill: Why did they put the Bible there?
Me: That's where it belongs.

He was not amused, but I sure as Hell was
 
2013-02-12 01:23:00 PM

Smoking GNU: Good lord! Sanity from texas education?

Wonder how long this'll last?


Until someone shows up at the Department of Education chief's house with a gun.

So... 25 minutes?
 
2013-02-12 01:26:21 PM
The intelligent design people should have tried adjusting their argument to fit specific circumstances, and only keeping pieces of rhetoric that actually provided a positive benefit to the whole concept.
 
2013-02-12 01:27:16 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...


You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.
 
2013-02-12 01:30:14 PM

eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.


Not to mention the violence, sex, cruelty, contradictions, that most of the heros like Lot are actually assholes, the incest, people as property etc.
 
2013-02-12 01:33:43 PM

generallyso: Creationists will just come up with a new name for their nonsense before they start pushing it again.


My guess?

Transcendental Formation.
 
2013-02-12 01:45:37 PM
I don't know what the Quran says about the creation of the universe, but we should tell the Bible-thumpers that THAT's what will be taught in schools. Heads will assplode.
 
2013-02-12 01:48:07 PM
I vaguely remember learning about intelligent design in school but it was history/social studies in elementary school and it was in reference to pre-Darwinian theories.
 
2013-02-12 01:52:38 PM

Mega Steve: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

...in english class, where they teach all the other fantasy novels and fantastic, implausible ideas.

Back when I was in high school, we spent most of our lunch periods in the library. One day, my friend Bill notices the Bible was in the mythology section.

Bill: Why did they put the Bible there?
Me: That's where it belongs.

He was not amused, but I sure as Hell was


And I am amused by this response ;)
 
2013-02-12 02:03:54 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: I don't know what the Quran says about the creation of the universe, but we should tell the Bible-thumpers that THAT's what will be taught in schools. Heads will assplode.


As a secular American, that is pretty much the same thing to me.  However it would be worth it just to watch the show.  Maybe we could just make the announcement and wait for the hullabaloo?
 
2013-02-12 02:04:19 PM
They won't teach cretinism! Hooray!
 
2013-02-12 02:04:25 PM
  "Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

wat

"Since we don't have facts, can we teach bronze-age mythology in our science classes?"

How does one become so stupid?
 
2013-02-12 02:05:04 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Smoking GNU: Good lord! Sanity from texas education?

Wonder how long this'll last?

Until someone shows up at the Department of Education chief's house with a gun.

So... 25 minutes?


Texas is a big state, give them another 30 minutes for driving time.
 
2013-02-12 02:05:04 PM
lolpics.se
 
2013-02-12 02:07:29 PM

Smoking GNU: Good lord! Sanity from texas education?

Wonder how long this'll last?


why are you bringing Him into this?  That is exactly what they are trying to get rid of
 
2013-02-12 02:10:04 PM

eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.


Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?
 
2013-02-12 02:11:46 PM
To the GOP lady ftfa:

When you're at home or church, you can teach your snowflake about God, Allah, Budda, The great spirit, mother gaia, Zenu - or even the one about the FSM creating the universe with a sauce spill.

But in Science class, we teach Science.
 
2013-02-12 02:11:58 PM

shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?


A couple of thetans who were transporting the lost tribe of Israel to the new world on flying horses.
 
2013-02-12 02:14:30 PM

shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?

.You can make up whatever answer you like, it's all pretty much fanfic.

 
2013-02-12 02:14:55 PM
Mega Steve:
Back when I was in high school, we spent most of our lunch periods in the library. One day, my friend Bill notices the Bible was in the mythology section.

When I was in school there was no mythology section, only fiction and nonfiction. I don't recall too many people getting their hackles raised by the bible being in the fiction section, but people were smart enough to keep religion out of politics back then.

I feel a Barry Goldwater quote coming on.
 
2013-02-12 02:20:20 PM
TFA: "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

*Eliminate*?  Someone's as bad at their recent history as they are science.

Public schools *didn't* teach creation - as it was the prevailing interpretation of the 'separation of church and state' that they *couldn't* teach specific theological beliefs.

Then you-all nutters tried to *force it* into the curriculum.

So, *no*. No-one's trying to "eliminate" the teaching of specific theological beliefs in public schools.
We're trying to *prevent it in the first damn place* -- to uphold a long-settled interpretation of the Establishment Clause, to not privilege any one set of religious beliefs over the others -- you intellectually dishonest slimebag.

Unless, of course, you want to see biblical creation 'taught' on equal footing as the wheel of life, the creation of the black-headed people, the rending of the flesh of Ymir to forge the world, and all the rest.
 
2013-02-12 02:20:24 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

...in english class, where they teach all the other fantasy novels and fantastic, implausible ideas.


went to HS in the late 80s (Public School) The Bible was used in my sophomore english class. If I remember correctly we were doing a comparative religious or creation myth segment. I don't recall anyone getting upset about having their beliefs challenged. It was examined as literature and not a dogmatic book etc.
 
2013-02-12 02:20:35 PM
theinsanityreport.com
 
2013-02-12 02:21:19 PM
Teaching the Controversy aside, where did that writer go to Journalism School? George Bush's Institutified Academy of Americanish?

Jeebus, it was a painful read.
 
2013-02-12 02:21:34 PM
I wish Kansas would do the same thing, but thanks to the Tea Party movement, a bunch of nutjobs got in and I imagine the kids are watching Kirk Cameron banana videos. They view the Governor, Sam Brownback, as too moderate, and that guy is a creationist moron.
 
2013-02-12 02:23:09 PM

unyon: FTFA:    "Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

Since that's precisely what science means, then yeah.  You are eliminating that.


"Dr". Campbell is a Tea Tard and, unfortunately, she's my state senator.
 
2013-02-12 02:23:16 PM

kindms: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

...in english class, where they teach all the other fantasy novels and fantastic, implausible ideas.

went to HS in the late 80s (Public School) The Bible was used in my sophomore english class. If I remember correctly we were doing a comparative religious or creation myth segment. I don't recall anyone getting upset about having their beliefs challenged. It was examined as literature and not a dogmatic book etc.


Yes, but that was the 80s, before these people really started trying to force Public Schools to become Sunday Schools.
 
2013-02-12 02:24:46 PM
I demand an apology from state senator Donna Campbell for having me read the dumbest, most painfully f*cking retarded quote from an elected official in some time.
 
2013-02-12 02:26:23 PM

shastacola: Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?


"Just because Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel (and later, Seth) were the only people mentioned, doesn't mean they were the only people. Maybe those 4/5 were the only ones worth mentioning, and the facts of early man gettin' down are assumed to have involved women other than Mama Eve (which doesn't really add to the story). The genealogical exposition in Genesis establishes the patrilineal line, so none of the women are mentioned.

// the same way we don't know much about Biblical women in general - like who married Reuben, for example
 
2013-02-12 02:27:21 PM
What a hero looks like:

www.barbaracargill.com
 
2013-02-12 02:28:42 PM
There's no way that was real. All the same, I now have a new favorite rap song.
 
2013-02-12 02:28:56 PM
But of course global warming is okay, even though the scientific basis is about equal.
 
2013-02-12 02:29:40 PM

Dr Dreidel: shastacola: Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?

"Just because Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel (and later, Seth) were the only people mentioned, doesn't mean they were the only people. Maybe those 4/5 were the only ones worth mentioning, and the facts of early man gettin' down are assumed to have involved women other than Mama Eve (which doesn't really add to the story). The genealogical exposition in Genesis establishes the patrilineal line, so none of the women are mentioned.

// the same way we don't know much about Biblical women in general - like who married Reuben, for example




So, fan fiction then.
 
2013-02-12 02:30:05 PM
Buh?
 
2013-02-12 02:30:25 PM

FirstNationalBastard: kindms: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

...in english class, where they teach all the other fantasy novels and fantastic, implausible ideas.

went to HS in the late 80s (Public School) The Bible was used in my sophomore english class. If I remember correctly we were doing a comparative religious or creation myth segment. I don't recall anyone getting upset about having their beliefs challenged. It was examined as literature and not a dogmatic book etc.

Yes, but that was the 80s, before these people really started trying to force Public Schools to become Sunday Schools.


Well that isn't entirely true. There was always the folks who didn't think X,Y or Z should be taught, The fight in those days seemed to come down on the sex ed / health classes etc.

But the thing is this. Those kids in my class etc are the folks in their late 30s early 40s. The same folks who would primarily have kids going through schools now. So who is really pushing this agenda ? I supposed a bunch of kids from the late 80s early 90s could all of a sudden forget what it was like to go to public school and become god crazy.
 
2013-02-12 02:30:38 PM

Dr Dreidel: like who married Reuben, for example


Shirley Partridge?
 
2013-02-12 02:32:33 PM

Dr Dreidel: shastacola: Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?

"Just because Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel (and later, Seth) were the only people mentioned, doesn't mean they were the only people. Maybe those 4/5 were the only ones worth mentioning, and the facts of early man gettin' down are assumed to have involved women other than Mama Eve (which doesn't really add to the story). The genealogical exposition in Genesis establishes the patrilineal line, so none of the women are mentioned.

// the same way we don't know much about Biblical women in general - like who married Reuben, for example


We discussed this in my Bible as Literature class in college before. The professor seemed to think that the God referred to in the early parts of the Old Testament was a tribal/familial god, not the only god. So it would be safe to assume that women from other tribes/families would be intermingling.
 
2013-02-12 02:36:01 PM

Raharu: You can make up whatever answer you like, it's all pretty much slash fiction.


Cain held Abel tightly in his arms.  "This is wrong, we are brothers! But it feels so right..."
 
2013-02-12 02:39:12 PM

abfalter: What a hero looks like:

[www.barbaracargill.com image 600x750]


whats the T stand for? is her name Tina?
 
2013-02-12 02:39:56 PM
We need to get physics, chemistry, and biology into the churches.
 
2013-02-12 02:40:50 PM
zerobs.net
 
2013-02-12 02:41:58 PM
This is what bothers me more.

"The head of the Texas Board of Education has provided assurances to Democrats in the State Senate that only Darwin's Theory of Evolution will be taught in public school science classes in the state,". 1200 WOAI news reports.


No other theories allowed, so we all must goosestep to the observations of a twenty year old?  Sieg farkin' heil! Heck even Richard Dawkins a stout evolutionist admitted it was possible we were created by, get this, ALIENS.


Read more: http://www.big1059.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed= 1 04668&article=10806921#ixzz2KiNkhUeI
 
2013-02-12 02:42:07 PM
LOL at suggesting story wasn't created solely by an intelligent being.
 
2013-02-12 02:42:54 PM
I'd be fine with using creationism as an example of what isn't scientific theory to help students better understand what the discipline entails, what it means to be testable, verifiable, etc.
 
2013-02-12 02:44:05 PM
In all fairness, Christianity does belong in school, right along side all the other mythologies. Atlas, Zeus, FSM, Jesus, Iahova, all of it, in Theology class. Science is for the provable and the verifiable.
 
2013-02-12 02:44:37 PM

Joe boater: This is what bothers me more.

"The head of the Texas Board of Education has provided assurances to Democrats in the State Senate that only Darwin's Theory of Evolution will be taught in public school science classes in the state,". 1200 WOAI news reports.


No other theories allowed, so we all must goosestep to the observations of a twenty year old?  Sieg farkin' heil! Heck even Richard Dawkins a stout evolutionist admitted it was possible we were created by, get this, ALIENS.


Read more: http://www.big1059.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed= 1 04668&article=10806921#ixzz2KiNkhUeI


Translation: DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP.

This is because it's the *ONLY* scientific explanation we have right now. If another one comes along it will be taught to the children but since its the only one with evidence right now that's the one we teach.

Great Troll or I feel sorry for you.  It's one or the other.
 
2013-02-12 02:46:00 PM
I got the same assurances from my school district regarding the textbooks they will be purchasing.  It's already Oregon state policy.

I'm still going to try and be as involved as I possibly can in the selection to make sure they are not bullied into getting creationist textbooks.
 
2013-02-12 02:49:30 PM

Raharu: So, fan fiction then.


With a healthy dose of intergenerational telephone and cultural bleed, too.

Three reasons to never teach The Bible in (non-sociological) science class. Hell, I remember some parents getting up in arms over the way certain topics were taught in religion classes, and we were all the same faith! At least in science class, you have to show your work to argue, and someone's allowed to be wrong.

// purple monkey dishwasher
 
2013-02-12 02:54:23 PM
Ahhhh...
I wonder if this was the reason my super fundie sister in law to post on her Facebook about how she was "crying all day because the atheists have taken God's word out of our schools".

I hope so.
 
2013-02-12 02:58:30 PM

Joe boater: This is what bothers me more.

"The head of the Texas Board of Education has provided assurances to Democrats in the State Senate that only Darwin's Theory of Evolution will be taught in public school science classes in the state,". 1200 WOAI news reports.


No other theories allowed, so we all must goosestep to the observations of a twenty year old?  Sieg farkin' heil! Heck even Richard Dawkins a stout evolutionist admitted it was possible we were created by, get this, ALIENS.


Evolution is not a theory on how life was created.
 
2013-02-12 02:59:47 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-12 03:02:58 PM

born_yesterday: Arkanaut: unyon: FTFA:    "Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

Since that's precisely what science means, then yeah.  You are eliminating that.

Apparently it's too much to just take your damn kids to church if you want to indoctrinate them.

Or sending them to a private school.  The Catholics have been doing it since forever, why in the hell won't these asshats?


Because the Catholic schools teach evolution.
 
2013-02-12 03:11:53 PM
They already added "God" to this:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
 
2013-02-12 03:13:13 PM

Joe boater: This is what bothers me more.

"The head of the Texas Board of Education has provided assurances to Democrats in the State Senate that only Darwin's Theory of Evolution will be taught in public school science classes in the state,". 1200 WOAI news reports.


No other theories allowed, so we all must goosestep to the observations of a twenty year old?  Sieg farkin' heil! Heck even Richard Dawkins a stout evolutionist admitted it was possible we were created by, get this, ALIENS.


Read more: http://www.big1059.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed= 1 04668&article=10806921#ixzz2KiNkhUeI


You know that funny feeling you get when you think about this stuff?  It's the physical manifestation of your compartmentalization and cognitive dissonance.  You KNOW that evolution has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen.  In hindsight, it's one of the most intuitive scientific theories out there, and if Darwin hadn't recognized it any number of other budding scientists would have.  It's also the basis for many other fields of science from which you no doubt benefit, and can and has been observed in laboratory conditions.

In short, get on board!  You'll feel better once you start being honest with yourself, trust me.
 
2013-02-12 03:15:39 PM
Intelligent? Personally I would have gone with sentient plants instead of the brutal, kill and be killed food chain idea.
 
2013-02-12 03:16:36 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: They already added "God" to this:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


While were cleaning up the crude tack-ons, lets go ahead and take indivisible out too, Yankee devil.
 
2013-02-12 03:19:06 PM
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you guys make me so proud, i see this thread is already taken care of :D

death to christians, i'm ok you're ok ;)
 
2013-02-12 03:23:49 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: They already added "God" to this:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


THIS^

*ahem*

radio.foxnews.com

what is this? the stone ages??  are we a nation of retards? idiocracy indeed
 
2013-02-12 03:25:44 PM

I drunk what: Sin_City_Superhero: They already added "God" to this:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

THIS^

*ahem*



what is this? the stone ages??  are we a nation of retards? idiocracy indeed


^^^^
 
2013-02-12 03:25:52 PM

Raharu: shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?
.You can make up whatever answer you like, it's all pretty much fanfic.


THIS^ lolz i agree with everything he says

*brofisting*
 
2013-02-12 03:28:29 PM

shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?


The Bible does not say that Adam and Eve were the first people; only that they were the first ones created to be with God through eternity.  When Cain kills Abel, God puts a mark on his head to protect him from "the other peoples of the world."  Case closed -- either God did multiple creations (my Weenersor believed this), or there were already a lot of folks in the world when God created Adam and Eve to be the beginnings of the bloodline that would eventually become the Jews.
 
2013-02-12 03:32:15 PM

shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?


Neanderthals.
 
2013-02-12 03:32:41 PM

Carthax: shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?

The Bible does not say that Adam and Eve were the first people; only that they were the first ones created to be with God through eternity.  When Cain kills Abel, God puts a mark on his head to protect him from "the other peoples of the world."  Case closed -- either God did multiple creations (my Weenersor believed this), or there were already a lot of folks in the world when God created Adam and Eve to be the beginnings of the bloodline that would eventually become the Jews.


so then fan fiction?
 
2013-02-12 03:35:16 PM
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1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-12 03:37:27 PM
Here's the problem I have with people that believe in YEC, or that all different forms of life were created at the same time, and didn't evolve from common ancestors:

In order for this view to jive with clearly evident data, then you must assume that God created the entire planet 6000 years ago, and then planted evidence all over the place that would disprove that act.  He changed the decay rate of radioisotopes so that dating anything that was past 4004 BC is unreliable.  He created all the light from distant stars already en route to earth.  He planted mounds of fossils and other evidence pointing to evolution.  He did all this in order to make you question the Bible.  This view leads to only one inescapable conclusion: God is a troll, and a piss-poor one at that.
 
2013-02-12 03:39:33 PM

IronOcelot: Ahhhh...
I wonder if this was the reason my super fundie sister in law to post on her Facebook about how she was "crying all day because the atheists have taken God's word out of our schools".

I hope so.


Their all powerful god sure is polite, what with him obeying school rules a lot.
 
2013-02-12 03:47:06 PM

miss diminutive: generallyso: Creationists will just come up with a new name for their nonsense before they start pushing it again.

My guess?

Transcendental Formation.


I read that as "Transcendental Fornication" and it sounded like fun...
 
2013-02-12 03:50:28 PM

shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?


Cain & Abel:  The First Gay Marriage.
 
2013-02-12 03:50:31 PM
I used to be an antitheist. I raged against "God" being on money and in our Pledge of Allegiance, but now I simply don't care. If people want to believe in God, that's their problem. If people want to worship frozen peas, they're welcome to do so. If people want to put their underwear on their head while they say the Pledge of Allegiance, then they can go right ahead and do that. It doesn't bother me at all.

Honestly, what bothers me is stuff like the fact that our free nation has a Pledge of Allegiance at all. Why should we have to pledge allegiance to our flag or union? Isn't it enough that I hold to the laws of the land, and uphold the ideals of America? Do I have to stand up and place my hand on my heart and swear it, too?  That's just a bit too paranoid-sounding for me. My allegiance to my country should be a given. I shouldn't have to recite a loyalty oath every day.

The loyalty oath bothers me a lot more than adding "God" to money. Money is dirty and the root of all evil, so really, I think it's only right that it mention God.
 
2013-02-12 03:51:07 PM
FTA: "I do not want in the textbooks Creationism or Intelligent Design,"

Do you want in the textbooks Yoda's Guide to Correct Grammar?
 
2013-02-12 03:54:12 PM
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2013-02-12 03:54:35 PM
To TeaBillies, the government-run public school must serve as church and home, too, since Tea partying precludes teaching any ethical value either at home, and sending kids to church might require them darking church doors themselves.

And wow -- a Tea Party Doctor -- in a state where malpractice is capped at $250K.
 
2013-02-12 03:56:29 PM
there was a time in this nation where science and religion did not have to be mutually exclusive.  furthermore i remember a time when it was considered impolite to discuss ones faith outside of one's church and home.  However  this age of constant evangelism it is almost expects it.  One's faith, or lack there of, has to be pinned upon the chest.  What was once a topic of self reflection and private contemplation is now pubil spectacle.  All so we can be distracted from the more important things of our daily lives.

Pin a medal on that woman.  Her courage in the face of some very powerful opposition is appreciated.
 
2013-02-12 03:57:40 PM

ZeroCorpse: Money is dirty and the root of all evil, so really, I think it's only right that it mention God.


PWNED ! :D

and then POOF he is gone in a puff of logic

you know what is really scary? "adults" who really believe in angels are allowed to own firearms 0.0

would you give an assault machine gun to a retard?
 
2013-02-12 03:58:40 PM
Here is the link to her donations page.  If you appreciate her stance, show it bu trying to keep her in office.

http://www.barbaracargill.com/donations.htm
 
2013-02-12 04:03:04 PM

ZeroCorpse: I used to be an antitheist. I raged against "God" being on money and in our Pledge of Allegiance, but now I simply don't care. If people want to believe in God, that's their problem. If people want to worship frozen peas, they're welcome to do so. If people want to put their underwear on their head while they say the Pledge of Allegiance, then they can go right ahead and do that. It doesn't bother me at all.



4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-12 04:08:03 PM

ZeroCorpse: I used to be an antitheist. I raged against "God" being on money and in our Pledge of Allegiance, but now I simply don't care. If people want to believe in God, that's their problem. If people want to worship frozen peas, they're welcome to do so. If people want to put their underwear on their head while they say the Pledge of Allegiance, then they can go right ahead and do that. It doesn't bother me at all.

Honestly, what bothers me is stuff like the fact that our free nation has a Pledge of Allegiance at all. Why should we have to pledge allegiance to our flag or union? Isn't it enough that I hold to the laws of the land, and uphold the ideals of America? Do I have to stand up and place my hand on my heart and swear it, too?  That's just a bit too paranoid-sounding for me. My allegiance to my country should be a given. I shouldn't have to recite a loyalty oath every day.

The loyalty oath bothers me a lot more than adding "God" to money. Money is dirty and the root of all evil, so really, I think it's only right that it mention God.


Come on, give peas a chance.
 
2013-02-12 04:10:12 PM

unyon: FTFA:    "Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

Since that's precisely what science means, then yeah.  You are eliminating that.


Is this an actual example of "begging the question"?
 
2013-02-12 04:19:37 PM

ZeroCorpse: The loyalty oath bothers me a lot more than adding "God" to money.


Loyalty oaths in have always been used primarily as a method to justify doing the wrong thing in the name of loyalty (or perceived lack thereof).
 
2013-02-12 04:20:49 PM
But what set evolution in motion?
What came first, chicken or the egg?
How much wood could a wood chuck chuck?
What does god need with a starship?
So many questions, so much entrophy?
 
2013-02-12 04:21:41 PM

I drunk what: Sin_City_Superhero: They already added "God" to this:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

THIS^

*ahem*

[radio.foxnews.com image 300x200]

what is this? the stone ages??  are we a nation of retards? idiocracy indeed


4/10
 
2013-02-12 04:26:42 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

...in english class, where they teach all the other fantasy novels and fantastic, implausible ideas.


When I took Humanities my senior year of high school, we actually did study the Bible... as literature. We discussed its influence on popular culture over the ages, particularly music, art, and other literary works, and my teacher picked apart the glaring inconsistencies and poor writing. Now, she didn't do that to be mean or pick on the poor persecuted Christians, she was giving the Bible the same treatment as everything else we read. I wasn't raised Christian and I still remember stuff from that class nearly two decades later! Ms. Pendergast, wherever you are, know that you were one of the best teachers I've ever had, including college.

The other acceptable place to (objectively) teach about religion would be social studies. It's impossible to really understand current and historical events in the Middle East, for example, without having some understanding of Islam (and its various factions like the Sunnis and Shi'ites) and its relation to Judaism and Christianity. Or (using an example from when I was in high school) to really understand the conflict between Catholics and Protestants in Ireland, you need to have some knowledge of those religions. Religion is inextricably tied to history.
 
2013-02-12 04:27:09 PM
"Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men,"

That's precisely what it means in a science classroom yes.

Particularly since the god you believe in doesn't exist.
 
2013-02-12 04:27:58 PM

Joe Blowme: But what set evolution in motion?
What came first, chicken or the egg?
How much wood could a wood chuck chuck?
What does god need with a starship?
So many questions, so much entrophy?


Sexual reproduction
The egg predates the chicken by many millions of years
1 pallet an hour
Prefers it to walking.
Questions are entropy neutral so don't worry too much.
 
2013-02-12 04:31:27 PM

Joe Blowme: But what set evolution in motion?


Nature

Joe Blowme: What came first, chicken or the egg?


Big Bang

Joe Blowme: What does god need with a starship?


the same thing that santa claus needs with one

Two16: 4/10


2/5

i see math isn't your strong suit
 
2013-02-12 04:32:57 PM
Geez, the Senator was just asking a question.
 
2013-02-12 04:34:59 PM

Joe Blowme: But what set evolution in motion?
What came first, chicken or the egg?
How much wood could a wood chuck chuck?
What does god need with a starship?
So many questions, so much entrophy?


No more secrets.
 
2013-02-12 04:40:52 PM

kindms: FirstNationalBastard: kindms: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

...in english class, where they teach all the other fantasy novels and fantastic, implausible ideas.

went to HS in the late 80s (Public School) The Bible was used in my sophomore english class. If I remember correctly we were doing a comparative religious or creation myth segment. I don't recall anyone getting upset about having their beliefs challenged. It was examined as literature and not a dogmatic book etc.

Yes, but that was the 80s, before these people really started trying to force Public Schools to become Sunday Schools.

Well that isn't entirely true. There was always the folks who didn't think X,Y or Z should be taught, The fight in those days seemed to come down on the sex ed / health classes etc.

But the thing is this. Those kids in my class etc are the folks in their late 30s early 40s. The same folks who would primarily have kids going through schools now. So who is really pushing this agenda ? I supposed a bunch of kids from the late 80s early 90s could all of a sudden forget what it was like to go to public school and become god crazy.


That would be my kids (6th and 8th grade).

They don't teach anything about religion around here other than the fact that it exists.  Like, social studies where they talk about what the Myans or Ancient Egyptians believed.  And that's cool, because kids should know about that stuff.  It's real.  It's history that really happened.

One day, some friend of my son's started spouting off about stories in the bible and asked my wife and I to clear it up.  So, we told him the stories, and what many people actually believe.  He just looked at us kind of funny and said, "That is completely ridiculous."

That's my boy.
On of my son's
 
2013-02-12 04:41:40 PM
Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, farkin' ass off! He's a tight-ass! He's a SADIST! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER!
 
2013-02-12 04:45:07 PM
I should be in the kitchen:

The other acceptable place to (objectively) teach about religion would be social studies. It's impossible to really understand current and historical events in the Middle East, for example, without having some understanding of Islam (and its various factions like the Sunnis and Shi'ites) and its relation to Judaism and Christianity. Or (using an example from when I was in high school) to really understand the conflict between Catholics and Protestants in Ireland, you need to have some knowledge of those religions. Religion is inextricably tied to history.

and that's how my school handled it, well, except the lack of discussion of islam
 
2013-02-12 04:53:35 PM
OK, who's the Farker whose mom ran for the state school board? I need the lowdown on this lady. Is she just lying to keep her job, or does she really not want to sneak in the wedge?
 
2013-02-12 04:54:43 PM
So, what sort of celebration was popular in the 18th century? Whatever it was, we should all do that now. Yay.
 
2013-02-12 04:56:38 PM

Joe Blowme: What came first, chicken or the egg?


Assuming the question is over which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg, it's the egg.

Premise 1: Evolution exists.
Premise 2: The type of egg is determined by what comes out of it--i.e., if a lark emerges from an egg, I can safely assume it's a lark egg.
Premise 3: The species of an animal is not determined by its offspring--i.e., if a male donkey and a female horse mate and have a mule, they're still a donkey and a horse.

Conclusion: at some point in the evolution of the chicken, something that was almost-but-not-quite a chicken laid an egg that contained a chicken. Hence, the chicken egg came before the chicken.
 
2013-02-12 05:01:55 PM

loonatic112358: I should be in the kitchen:

The other acceptable place to (objectively) teach about religion would be social studies. It's impossible to really understand current and historical events in the Middle East, for example, without having some understanding of Islam (and its various factions like the Sunnis and Shi'ites) and its relation to Judaism and Christianity. Or (using an example from when I was in high school) to really understand the conflict between Catholics and Protestants in Ireland, you need to have some knowledge of those religions. Religion is inextricably tied to history.

and that's how my school handled it, well, except the lack of discussion of islam


Come to think of it, we didn't learn a whole lot about Islam in high school, but things over there were relatively quiet at the time. Today, though, I think it's essential. Of course to some people any factual discussion of non-Christian religions (or the wrong Christian denomination) is "indoctrination", and so Americans continue to be ignorant of the rest of the world. IMO, you don't have to like or respect other people's beliefs, but you do have to understand them.
 
2013-02-12 05:58:26 PM

Karac: Here's the problem I have with people that believe in YEC, or that all different forms of life were created at the same time, and didn't evolve from common ancestors:

In order for this view to jive with clearly evident data, then you must assume that God created the entire planet 6000 years ago, and then planted evidence all over the place that would disprove that act.  He changed the decay rate of radioisotopes so that dating anything that was past 4004 BC is unreliable.  He created all the light from distant stars already en route to earth.  He planted mounds of fossils and other evidence pointing to evolution.  He did all this in order to make you question the Bible.  This view leads to only one inescapable conclusion: God is a troll, and a piss-poor one at that.


Pick another one besides Jehovah. That guy is nuts.
 
2013-02-12 06:13:26 PM

shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?


Cain married a Six and Abel an Eight.
 
2013-02-12 07:09:57 PM
I see a creationist troll has evolved. Let's see how this new schtick works.
 
2013-02-12 07:10:26 PM

born_yesterday: Arkanaut: unyon: FTFA:    "Because we do not have the scientific facts to teach creation, does that mean we can't teach that God created women and men," asked Sen. Donna Campbell (R-New Braunfels).  "Are we trying to eliminate that?"

Since that's precisely what science means, then yeah.  You are eliminating that.

Apparently it's too much to just take your damn kids to church if you want to indoctrinate them.

Or sending them to a private school.  The Catholics have been doing it since forever, why in the hell won't these asshats?


Catholic schools don't teach creationism. Not as science anyway. They do however teach evolution in science class.
 
2013-02-12 07:12:51 PM

kid_icarus: Never a better use of the 'Obvious' tag. Creationism is  NOTscience (no matter how desperately they try to package it as such). Therefore it's a no-brainer that it should NOT be taught in science classes.
If your school has an elective theology course, then sure...go nuts with the creationism in that class.


I think you are taking things a bit far.  In science it is often good to look at what came before to understand where you are now.  For example, in chemistry they still teach the plumb pudding model (the atom is like a bowl of positively charged pudding with negative bits floating in it), which modern science has shown to be untrue.  The same goes for early astronomers who thought the sun revolved around the earth.
 
2013-02-12 07:13:44 PM

eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.


Not if they haint done had their minds corrupted with all that science and critical thinkin' crap in one of them thar commie schoolz.
 
2013-02-12 07:52:58 PM

eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.


I don't know if I'd say it's crap, and there are parallels to accepted scientific theory within it.  I picked up much of my understanding of basic science in middle school, didn't begin reading the Bible until beginning my 20s.  When people defend the Bible, it often does seem as if they are picking and choosing what to take literally and what to take as metaphor or exaggeration.  That said, I always thought of the "word" in the beginning of Genesis as an emanation, such as the "Big Bang", or spontaneous expansion of the universe.  "Days" aren't mentioned until the separation of light and dark occurs, which could be the cooling of the early universe.  Then it mentions the types of life, all of which appear in the same sequence as the fossil record (or even intuition) suggests.  Where it gets interesting is right about where most churches seem themselves unable to continue taking it literally; with the introduction of genetic manipulation and its resultant horrors.  As a warning against manipulating DNA it contains more science than its most vocal proponents seem willing to embrace.  It claimed that defects (sin) were passed from the father through the blood(line) before Mendel, and understood matriarchal lineage long before mitochondria had been identified.

But I rarely hear anyone talk about any of that.
 
2013-02-12 08:05:41 PM

shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?


Their parents lived for over 900 years and had many sons and daughter (after Seth, who went on to rock).  Must have been a couple of the daughters.
 
2013-02-12 08:47:27 PM
Wait, so there's a difference between science and making stuff up?
 
2013-02-12 09:55:49 PM

Two16: [zerobs.net image 391x527]


You're being snarky, but I'll have to point out that science built the place too...and the towers.
 
2013-02-12 09:56:24 PM

LoneWolf343: Two16: [zerobs.net image 391x527]

You're being snarky, but I'll have to point out that science built the placeplane too...and the towers.


Goddammit so much.
 
2013-02-12 10:08:11 PM

Dixon Cider: 'Hero' tag sleeping in today?


Isn't that setting the bar a bit low?  Do I get the Hero tag for not punching any babies today?
 
2013-02-12 10:18:56 PM

pounddawg: Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-12 10:34:49 PM
From what I can tell, Cargill's not so much opposed to creationism as opposed to getting caught pushing it.
 
2013-02-12 11:30:10 PM
"Christians" aren't thumping their Bibles insisting that what they believe be taught to their children, they are doing it to ensure what they believe is taught to everyone's children.

They've got a problem, their base is dying off.  Need new recruits.
 
2013-02-12 11:49:27 PM
Everytime I see pics of Roseanne Barr or Janet Napolitano I can't help thinking:  "Intelligently designed?  More like a cross between an albino hippo and Janet Reno.
 
2013-02-12 11:49:30 PM

HAMMERTOE: In all fairness, Christianity does belong in school, right along side all the other mythologies. Atlas, Zeus, FSM, Jesus, Iahova, all of it, in Theology class. Science is for the provable and the verifiable.


My issue is this: No theology classes in public schools (heck, calculus and physics are). I have no issues with such, but I would have loved to have a choice. I for one like hearing about the religions of the world.

As for fundies, ask this: "What is time to God? He said he created the world in 6 days, but how would he/she know? Does God have a watch... or was he dumbing it down so his "children" could understand?"

/Christian
//thinks evolution did occur
///still want them to discover the Mitochodrial Eve.
 
2013-02-13 12:10:50 AM

IAmTheTagTeamChampions: shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?

Cain married a Six and Abel an Eight.


That's a mistranslation, Abel actually married 4 twos.
 
2013-02-13 12:41:55 AM
Texas is opting to teach commie pinko science instead of real 'murkin bible-believing Patriotism?

I didn't see that coming.
 
2013-02-13 12:47:07 AM
www.prometheus2-movie.com
As long as this is still banned, I'm all for it. Fark Damon Lindeoff.
 
2013-02-13 05:00:30 AM

olddinosaur: But of course global warming is okay, even though the scientific basis is about equal.


0/10
 
2013-02-13 05:04:11 AM

Joe boater: This is what bothers me more.

"The head of the Texas Board of Education has provided assurances to Democrats in the State Senate that only Darwin's Theory of Evolution will be taught in public school science classes in the state,". 1200 WOAI news reports.


No other theories allowed, so we all must goosestep to the observations of a twenty year old?  Sieg farkin' heil! Heck even Richard Dawkins a stout evolutionist admitted it was possible we were created by, get this, ALIENS.


Read more: http://www.big1059.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed= 1 04668&article=10806921#ixzz2KiNkhUeI


BUT IT'S NOT SCIENCE. I notice that you neglected to bold the part of the quote about science classes though, so I'll assume you're just trolling.
 
2013-02-13 05:28:33 AM

severedtoe: there was a time in this nation where science and religion did not have to be mutually exclusive.  furthermore i remember a time when it was considered impolite to discuss ones faith outside of one's church and home.  However  this age of constant evangelism it is almost expects it.  One's faith, or lack there of, has to be pinned upon the chest.  What was once a topic of self reflection and private contemplation is now pubil spectacle.  All so we can be distracted from the more important things of our daily lives.

Pin a medal on that woman.  Her courage in the face of some very powerful opposition is appreciated.


I find the contacts much more comfortable.
 
2013-02-13 06:10:52 AM
No pics of jesus on a raptor?
 
2013-02-13 09:24:46 AM

BMFPitt: Dixon Cider: 'Hero' tag sleeping in today?

Isn't that setting the bar a bit low?  Do I get the Hero tag for not punching any babies today?


Depends on how you define 'baby'.
 
2013-02-13 10:01:56 AM

BMFPitt: Dixon Cider: 'Hero' tag sleeping in today?

Isn't that setting the bar a bit low?


welcometofark.jpg

you get a hero tag here if you can manage not to eat your own poop
 
2013-02-13 10:06:38 AM

I drunk what: BMFPitt: Dixon Cider: 'Hero' tag sleeping in today?

Isn't that setting the bar a bit low?

welcometofark.jpg

you get a hero tag here if you can manage not to eat your own poop


So.. not a single Farker gets the title?
 
2013-02-13 11:02:46 AM

shastacola: Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?


Genesis 5:4 "After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters."

If you're going to criticize a book, at least read it first.  Now stop making yourself look like an idiot by asking stupid questions like that and focus on the real, valid criticisms of that worthless book.
 
2013-02-13 11:42:59 AM

Dixon Cider: I drunk what: BMFPitt: Dixon Cider: 'Hero' tag sleeping in today?

Isn't that setting the bar a bit low?

welcometofark.jpg

you get a hero tag here if you can manage not to eat your own poop

So.. not a single Farker gets the title?


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-13 12:25:00 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: [lolpics.se image 750x600]


The layout of that page is the most compelling argument I've seen that there is no God...
 
2013-02-13 01:07:19 PM
Local churches seen stock piling tar and feathers.
 
2013-02-13 03:07:20 PM

Carthax: shastacola: eraser8: FirstNationalBastard: I would have no problem with creationism or intelligent design being taught in schools. Hell, I'd even agree to the bible being required reading...

You can't teach creationism/intelligent design while requiring students to actually read the Bible.  You have to choose one or the other.

Anyone who actually reads the Bible -- and comprehends what it says -- will realize in short order that the biblical creation story is Grade-A crap.  We can't have that.  Not in 'Murica.

Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?

The Bible does not say that Adam and Eve were the first people; only that they were the first ones created to be with God through eternity.  When Cain kills Abel, God puts a mark on his head to protect him from "the other peoples of the world."  Case closed -- either God did multiple creations (my Weenersor believed this), or there were already a lot of folks in the world when God created Adam and Eve to be the beginnings of the bloodline that would eventually become the Jews.


L Ron did a better job.
 
2013-02-13 03:12:23 PM

Xenomech: shastacola: Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?

Genesis 5:4 "After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters."

If you're going to criticize a book, at least read it first.  Now stop making yourself look like an idiot by asking stupid questions like that and focus on the real, valid criticisms of that worthless book.


Soooo, incest?
 
2013-02-13 07:12:52 PM

machodonkeywrestler: Xenomech: shastacola: Has the question of who Cain and Abel married ever been answered?

Genesis 5:4 "After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters."

If you're going to criticize a book, at least read it first.  Now stop making yourself look like an idiot by asking stupid questions like that and focus on the real, valid criticisms of that worthless book.

Soooo, incest?


It's a disgusting book of holiness, alright.
 
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