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2013-02-12 03:15:51 PM

Yuri Futanari: This thread will be filled with people who think they're anime fans but
really have absolutely no clue about it or the art form.
Oh they'll list some of the the most common and socially accepted
like Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo or whatever their hipster friend
liked on facebook, whatever they think makes them sound "cool."

You won't see them list real anime titles that show an understanding
of the genre, things like Naruto or Elfen Lied, SD Gundam, Dragonauts or
Urotsukidojdesu.


What's amazing about something like Naruto is how some communities utterly lose their shiat if you try to talk about it.  Elfin Lied is just shortly behind it in that regard.

So i make sure to talk about it often with said communities.  I keep a score board at home of the short terms bans as a result of daring to say something nice.
 
2013-02-12 03:16:48 PM

Begoggle: Yuri Futanari: This thread will be filled with people who think they're anime fans but
really have absolutely no clue about it or the art form.
Oh they'll list some of the the most common and socially accepted
like Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo or whatever their hipster friend
liked on facebook, whatever they think makes them sound "cool."

You won't see them list real anime titles that show an understanding
of the genre, things like Naruto or Elfen Lied, SD Gundam, Dragonauts or
Urotsukidojdesu.

Care Bears, Go-Bots, and The Smurfs and were always some of my favorites.


dl.dropbox.com
 
2013-02-12 03:21:23 PM
Love the GITS universe, there a lot of great story possibilities in it. Probably the closest thing we'll see to a popularized version of Neuromancer.

/also want my own Tachikoma, damn it
 
2013-02-12 03:24:51 PM
I know that some of her back story has already been covered. She had her cybernetic implants at a young age due to some sort of catastrophic plane crash. But her teen to midlife years? yes please as long as it's canon.

/please, don't fark this up for us!
 
2013-02-12 03:25:30 PM

NeoCortex42: Wasn't Togusa a rookie with Section 9 during the beginning of GitS (movie and TV)? How would he even fit into a Year One story of the Major.


IIRC, Togusa was a detective before he was recruited by Section 9.
 
2013-02-12 03:28:19 PM

Antimatter: What's amazing about something like Naruto is how some communities utterly lose their shiat if you try to talk about it. Elfin Lied is just shortly behind it in that regard.

So i make sure to talk about it often with said communities. I keep a score board at home of the short terms bans as a result of daring to say something nice.


Naruto and Elfin Lied are just Gurren Lagaan rip-offs anyway.

/ducks
//kidding kidding
///They're Eva rip-offs
 
2013-02-12 03:35:33 PM
Yuri Futanari:
You won't see them list real anime titles that show an understanding
of the genre, things like Naruto or Elfen Lied, SD Gundam, Dragonauts or
Urotsukidojdesu.


Pff, such a mainstream weeaboo, desu.  MY favorite anime is a field-hockey themed high school sports harem comedy, which only has four fans outside of Japan.  I have to personally fly there every quarter to buy fan-subbed bootleg DVD's of it (not that I need those because I learned flawless Japanese in order to fully appreciate their rich culture) from a homeless man at the Osaka train station, as well as visit my favorite cat cafe.

Everyone else here might as well be extolling the virtues of their Disney-distributed "Totoro" DVD with American celebrity voice acting.  Ooh, Claire Danes, desu.
 
2013-02-12 03:37:42 PM

BronyMedic: Please be in the SAC universe. Plllleeeeaaasssssee!!!

Yes. This. So much this. SAC already kinda sorta touched upon Motoko's backstory too..


Yuri Futanari: I hope not, I put like zero effort into it.


Just goes to prove how easy it is, really. If you left it at Elfen Lied and SD Gundam I may have considered it, to be honest... at least until I saw your handle. You've got potential!

Now for the obligatory... haven't really watched anything in over a year since nothing really seemed to appeal, but then again sometimes seemingly-unappealing things are actually really, really good.

Kaiba
Eden of the East
Katanagatari
No. 6
Moyashimon
The Tatami Galaxy
Usagi Drop
Planetes
Kamichu!

I think that's a fairly good starter list for "something unexpected, in a good way."
=Smidge=
 
2013-02-12 03:57:40 PM

Smidge204: Yes. This. So much this. SAC already kinda sorta touched upon Motoko's backstory too..


Which is what made the ending to 2nd GIG not only tragic and bittersweet, but so awesome.

Goda is one person you'll never feel sorry for.
 
2013-02-12 04:08:42 PM
First off, allow me to get this out there first, not that I'm usually like this, but... SQUEE!

*coughs* Now that that's out of the way...

I'll be more than happy with this if they show how Section 9 was formed as well. Yeah, I know Togusa had just joined them at the beginning of SAC, but it'd be interesting to see how they chose him for the job as well.
Wonder if Yoko Kanno is doing the music again as well.
 
2013-02-12 04:28:00 PM

Ionessa: Wonder if Yoko Kanno is doing the music again as well.


I haven't seen it announced anywhere yet.  Usually when she's attached to a project, it's a pretty big announcement early on.  So I'm not expecting her to be involved.
 
2013-02-12 04:49:33 PM

No Such Agency: MY favorite anime is a field-hockey themed high school sports harem comedy, which only has four fans outside of Japan.


Crap like Whistle, Hungry Heart Wild Striker, Major, Touch, Hajime no Ippo, Eyeshield 21 are only for wannabes.  I mean, you might as well watch Prince of Tennis and Hikaru no Go if you're that casual.

Real fans watch Puella Madoka Magica, Lyrical Nanoha, and Strike Witches.
 
2013-02-12 04:50:39 PM
I still have the first one on VHS.  Good stuff!
 
2013-02-12 04:58:39 PM

degenerate-afro: No Such Agency: MY favorite anime is a field-hockey themed high school sports harem comedy, which only has four fans outside of Japan.

Crap like Whistle, Hungry Heart Wild Striker, Major, Touch, Hajime no Ippo, Eyeshield 21 are only for wannabes.  I mean, you might as well watch Prince of Tennis and Hikaru no Go if you're that casual.

Real fans watch Puella Madoka Magica, Lyrical Nanoha, and Strike Witches.


...I think this is the first time I've felt legitimately trolled on Fark. I mean, you might as well say "The Godfather, Citizen Kane, and Battleship."

11/10
 
2013-02-12 05:02:04 PM

degenerate-afro: No Such Agency: MY favorite anime is a field-hockey themed high school sports harem comedy, which only has four fans outside of Japan.

Crap like Whistle, Hungry Heart Wild Striker, Major, Touch, Hajime no Ippo, Eyeshield 21 are only for wannabes.  I mean, you might as well watch Prince of Tennis and Hikaru no Go if you're that casual.

Real fans watch Puella Madoka Magica, Lyrical Nanoha, and Strike Witches.


You mean real fans of out-and-out fan service right?
 
2013-02-12 05:11:40 PM

Rwa2play: You mean real fans of out-and-out fan service right?


Queens Blade, Girls Bravo, Seikon no Qwaser?

I think it says something about your tastes in women that you think of Strike Witches for fan service instead of it's high quality story and air tight plot.
 
2013-02-12 05:12:00 PM

BronyMedic: Smidge204: Yes. This. So much this. SAC already kinda sorta touched upon Motoko's backstory too..

Which is what made the ending to 2nd GIG not only tragic and bittersweet, but so awesome.

Goda is one person you'll never feel sorry for.


NEVER.  Goda got what was coming to him; manipulative farker.
 
2013-02-12 05:17:39 PM

degenerate-afro: Rwa2play: You mean real fans of out-and-out fan service right?

Queens Blade, Girls Bravo, Seikon no Qwaser?

I think it says something about your tastes in women that you think of Strike Witches for fan service instead of it's high quality story and air tight plot.


HAH!  I actually saw Koihime+Muso; great story, but the fan service was...titilating.  That's what I was thinking of; my bad.

/Also had a queen who's strategist was also her lover
 
2013-02-12 05:23:03 PM

NeoCortex42: I haven't seen an announcement of who is doing the music yet.  If it was Yoko Kanno, I have a feeling it would have already been part of the announcement.

Not that I won't watch this show regardless, but having her on the soundtrack makes every show better.


Yeah, that's my main concern as well.  Hell, I don't even care how good the show is, as long as she's doing the soundtrack.  :0
 
2013-02-12 05:24:25 PM

Yuri Futanari: This thread will be filled with people who think they're anime fans but
really have absolutely no clue about it or the art form.
Oh they'll list some of the the most common and socially accepted
like Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo or whatever their hipster friend
liked on facebook, whatever they think makes them sound "cool."

You won't see them list real anime titles that show an understanding
of the genre, things like Naruto or Elfen Lied, SD Gundam, Dragonauts or
Urotsukidojdesu.


Oops, gave it away there. Good attempt though!
 
2013-02-12 05:28:31 PM

Satanic_Hamster: NeoCortex42: I haven't seen an announcement of who is doing the music yet.  If it was Yoko Kanno, I have a feeling it would have already been part of the announcement.

Not that I won't watch this show regardless, but having her on the soundtrack makes every show better.

Yeah, that's my main concern as well.  Hell, I don't even care how good the show is, as long as she's doing the soundtrack.  :0


And I was considering re-watching Macross Frontier just for the music. If I have new Yoko Kanno to look forward to, even better. If nothing else, I can always just grab the soundtrack.
 
2013-02-12 05:32:41 PM

Rwa2play: HAH!  I actually saw Koihime+Muso; great story, but the fan service was...titilating.  That's what I was thinking of; my bad.

/Also had a queen who's strategist was also her lover


You're probably thinking of Sou Sou (chinese name Cao Cao) who is a general, not a Queen.

Three Kingdoms stuff (Ikkitousen, Koihime+Muso, Qwan, etc) is difficult to keep track of unless you know Chinese history.  Especially when they try to cover all of the characters and interactions.
 
2013-02-12 05:42:50 PM

Eleri: Satanic_Hamster: NeoCortex42: I haven't seen an announcement of who is doing the music yet.  If it was Yoko Kanno, I have a feeling it would have already been part of the announcement.

Not that I won't watch this show regardless, but having her on the soundtrack makes every show better.

Yeah, that's my main concern as well.  Hell, I don't even care how good the show is, as long as she's doing the soundtrack.  :0

And I was considering re-watching Macross Frontier just for the music. If I have new Yoko Kanno to look forward to, even better. If nothing else, I can always just grab the soundtrack.


Her latest is Kids on the Slope. I'm only a few episodes in, but so far so good. It has an excellent selection of jazz music.
 
2013-02-12 05:46:45 PM

NeoCortex42: Eleri: Satanic_Hamster: NeoCortex42: I haven't seen an announcement of who is doing the music yet.  If it was Yoko Kanno, I have a feeling it would have already been part of the announcement.

Not that I won't watch this show regardless, but having her on the soundtrack makes every show better.

Yeah, that's my main concern as well.  Hell, I don't even care how good the show is, as long as she's doing the soundtrack.  :0

And I was considering re-watching Macross Frontier just for the music. If I have new Yoko Kanno to look forward to, even better. If nothing else, I can always just grab the soundtrack.

Her latest is Kids on the Slope. I'm only a few episodes in, but so far so good. It has an excellent selection of jazz music.


Hmmmm....coming-of-age drama set in the 1960s? Not normally my first choice for anime. But directed by  Watanabe Shinichi with Yoko Kanno. That's definitely getting added to the list. Thanks for the tip.
 
2013-02-12 06:26:31 PM
You know what I'd love to see? A Terminator anime.
 
2013-02-12 06:37:24 PM

spamdog: You know what I'd love to see? A Terminator anime.


It's been done. (NSFW)
 
2013-02-12 06:42:51 PM

Eleri: Hmmmm....coming-of-age drama set in the 1960s? Not normally my first choice for anime. But directed by  Watanabe Shinichi with Yoko Kanno. That's definitely getting added to the list. Thanks for the tip.


Just to be clear, it's Shinichiro Watanabe from Bebop working on this and not Nabeshin from Excel Saga, although that would certainly be interesting.

The production staff is what got me to check it out. The fact that it focuses primarily on jazz music is a bonus.
 
2013-02-12 07:33:21 PM

NeoCortex42: Eleri: Hmmmm....coming-of-age drama set in the 1960s? Not normally my first choice for anime. But directed by  Watanabe Shinichi with Yoko Kanno. That's definitely getting added to the list. Thanks for the tip.

Just to be clear, it's Shinichiro Watanabe from Bebop working on this and not Nabeshin from Excel Saga, although that would certainly be interesting.

The production staff is what got me to check it out. The fact that it focuses primarily on jazz music is a bonus.


I actually got around to watching Excel Saga within the past few months, and so I definitely see what you're saying. "Interesting" would be an understatement with Nabeshin. So, yeah, I did check the director name when you mentioned the series. As stereotypical as liking it is, I did enjoy the way the music tied in with the episodes in Cowboy Bebop, and I hope this one has more of the same.
 
2013-02-12 08:02:20 PM

Eleri: NeoCortex42: Eleri: Hmmmm....coming-of-age drama set in the 1960s? Not normally my first choice for anime. But directed by  Watanabe Shinichi with Yoko Kanno. That's definitely getting added to the list. Thanks for the tip.

Just to be clear, it's Shinichiro Watanabe from Bebop working on this and not Nabeshin from Excel Saga, although that would certainly be interesting.

The production staff is what got me to check it out. The fact that it focuses primarily on jazz music is a bonus.

I actually got around to watching Excel Saga within the past few months, and so I definitely see what you're saying. "Interesting" would be an understatement with Nabeshin. So, yeah, I did check the director name when you mentioned the series. As stereotypical as liking it is, I did enjoy the way the music tied in with the episodes in Cowboy Bebop, and I hope this one has more of the same.


Speaking of Excel Saga, if you still had any sanity left after watching it, check out the spin-off Puni Puni Poemy. It dials the WTF up to eleven.
 
2013-02-12 08:03:36 PM

NeoCortex42: ferretman: I have always enjoyed anime and I have see numerous titles available through x-box. Unfortunately I do not know enough about the very numerous titles to know which ones are any good. Any suggestions on ones I should check out?

I don't know what's available on there for anime, but some titles that are worth checking out if you can:
Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Fullmetal Alchemist (either series), Full Metal Panic (first and third seasons in particular).

Those are just some titles that are generally well-liked.  If you have more specific criteria (like older series vs. new, or specific genres you enjoy), I could probably give you some better suggestions.


I'll add Ninja Scroll (movie) and Trigun (series).  Bebop and Champloo are probably the best of the bunch though, with Bebop eclipsing them all by a wide margin.
 
2013-02-12 08:08:12 PM

degenerate-afro: Rwa2play: HAH!  I actually saw Koihime+Muso; great story, but the fan service was...titilating.  That's what I was thinking of; my bad.

/Also had a queen who's strategist was also her lover

You're probably thinking of Sou Sou (chinese name Cao Cao) who is a general, not a Queen.

Three Kingdoms stuff (Ikkitousen, Koihime+Muso, Qwan, etc) is difficult to keep track of unless you know Chinese history.  Especially when they try to cover all of the characters and interactions.


That's true.
 
2013-02-12 08:19:46 PM

Yuri Futanari: spamdog: You know what I'd love to see? A Terminator anime.

It's been done. (NSFW)


More seriously, it's been done (almost): Link
Bonus: Masamune Shirow's fingerprints all over it.
 
2013-02-12 08:44:26 PM

NeoCortex42: Eleri: NeoCortex42: Eleri: Hmmmm....coming-of-age drama set in the 1960s? Not normally my first choice for anime. But directed by  Watanabe Shinichi with Yoko Kanno. That's definitely getting added to the list. Thanks for the tip.

Just to be clear, it's Shinichiro Watanabe from Bebop working on this and not Nabeshin from Excel Saga, although that would certainly be interesting.

The production staff is what got me to check it out. The fact that it focuses primarily on jazz music is a bonus.

I actually got around to watching Excel Saga within the past few months, and so I definitely see what you're saying. "Interesting" would be an understatement with Nabeshin. So, yeah, I did check the director name when you mentioned the series. As stereotypical as liking it is, I did enjoy the way the music tied in with the episodes in Cowboy Bebop, and I hope this one has more of the same.

Speaking of Excel Saga, if you still had any sanity left after watching it, check out the spin-off Puni Puni Poemy. It dials the WTF up to eleven.


*sigh* This is the problem with anime. Oh? You liked that series? Well, look what I have here...a whole pile of other series that you may also like. For goodness sake, I only started this addiction because I liked mecha!
 
2013-02-12 08:52:22 PM

Yuri Futanari: This thread will be filled with people who think they're anime fans but
really have absolutely no clue about it or the art form.
Oh they'll list some of the the most common and socially accepted
like Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo or whatever their hipster friend
liked on facebook, whatever they think makes them sound "cool."

You won't see them list real anime titles that show an understanding
of the genre, things like Naruto or Elfen Lied, SD Gundam, Dragonauts or
Urotsukidojdesu.


I remember renting that before Blockbuster realized it was full of blood and tentacle rape.

/good times
 
2013-02-12 08:53:28 PM
cache.ohinternet.com

/obligatory
 
2013-02-12 09:33:39 PM
Uninteresting factoid: Rob Bricken used to be a regular customer at the comic store i worked at in Lexington before moving on to his entertainment writing gigs in Internet land.  It's still weird to see his name on stuff now.  It's also weird to see he got a little fat.  But he was good for some of the best movie conversations to be had in a comic store.
 
2013-02-12 11:29:14 PM
Last Exile
 
2013-02-13 12:41:14 AM

parkerlewis: I still have the first one on VHS.  Good stuff!


The first GITS was the the first movie I ever watched on a computer, as it turns out.

My way of welcoming myself to the future, I suppose.
 
2013-02-13 01:29:22 AM

ProfessorOhki: Antimatter: What's amazing about something like Naruto is how some communities utterly lose their shiat if you try to talk about it. Elfin Lied is just shortly behind it in that regard.

So i make sure to talk about it often with said communities. I keep a score board at home of the short terms bans as a result of daring to say something nice.

Naruto and Elfin Lied are just Gurren Lagaan rip-offs anyway.

/ducks
//kidding kidding
///They're Eva rip-offs


Eva rip-off? *cough*RahXephon*cough
 
2013-02-13 01:30:29 AM

NeoCortex42: Puni Puni Poemy. It dials the WTF up to eleven.


Eleven? Are you sure about that? I would have given it at least 35...
 
2013-02-13 06:21:59 AM

NeoCortex42: Speaking of Excel Saga, if you still had any sanity left after watching it, check out the spin-off Puni Puni Poemy. It dials the WTF up to eleven.


The dub of that is awesome.  They hired a really good voice actor that could handle the craziness of the part.  For that matter, Hellsing (both series) has a really good dub as well, especially Jan Valentine's Introduction (minor spoiler).  I watched GitS:SAC exclusively on dub.

What I'm saying is that most English dubs are pretty good nowadays.  There are some exceptions, like Naruto, but don't blindly follow the "death before dub" mantra.
 
2013-02-13 08:43:54 AM

Rwa2play: BronyMedic: Smidge204: Yes. This. So much this. SAC already kinda sorta touched upon Motoko's backstory too..

Which is what made the ending to 2nd GIG not only tragic and bittersweet, but so awesome.

Goda is one person you'll never feel sorry for.

NEVER.  Goda got what was coming to him; manipulative farker.


The best thing: Goda not only got what was coming to him, if you look back you realize he really, really deserved worse.  Those who have read JD Salinger know that Goda matches the physical description of the Laughing Man exactly.  That man had been pulling the strings nationwide, and at Section 9, for years before he showed up in the series.

I hope they don't fark this movie up too badly.  Motoko's past is pretty much established, they can't touch too much of it during the wrong time or it just won't sit well with the fans.
 
2013-02-13 10:37:37 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Any Pie Left: Still waiting for the live action movie of Bubblegum Crisis. That could be so uber-hot, with the right casting and effects.

I enjoyed the Live Action version of Yamato that came out a year or two ago - thought it really captured the visual style.

A live action GitS would be nice, based on the first animated movie.  Of course ignorant people would say that it was a ripoff of The Matrix at this point.  <b>I'd love to see a live action Hellsing</b> although they'd have to tone down the violence to get an R rating.


<shutupandtakemymoney.jpg>

/Seriously
//squeeeeeeeee!
 
2013-02-13 12:43:07 PM

ReaverZ: Last Exile


This.jpg

I'd also add:
Kino's Journey
Planetes
Welcome to the NHK
Now and Then, Here and There
Spice and Wolf
 
2013-02-13 01:08:19 PM

NeoCortex42: I haven't seen an announcement of who is doing the music yet.  If it was Yoko Kanno, I have a feeling it would have already been part of the announcement.

Not that I won't watch this show regardless, but having her on the soundtrack makes every show better.


Origa was the singer...beautiful voice
 
2013-02-13 01:27:41 PM

radiovox: NeoCortex42: I haven't seen an announcement of who is doing the music yet.  If it was Yoko Kanno, I have a feeling it would have already been part of the announcement.

Not that I won't watch this show regardless, but having her on the soundtrack makes every show better.

Origa was the singer...beautiful voice


Yeah, I agree.  Even ignoring the opening/ending tracks, Yoko Kanno soundtracks are generally very good standing on their own.
 
2013-02-13 01:35:10 PM

NeoCortex42: radiovox: NeoCortex42: I haven't seen an announcement of who is doing the music yet.  If it was Yoko Kanno, I have a feeling it would have already been part of the announcement.

Not that I won't watch this show regardless, but having her on the soundtrack makes every show better.

Origa was the singer...beautiful voice

Yeah, I agree.  Even ignoring the opening/ending tracks, Yoko Kanno soundtracks are generally very good standing on their own.


I like Kanno, but I think Kenji Kawai is much more original in his songs.  Kanno is great a repackaging a good song while Kawai is good at making original songs.
 
2013-02-13 07:12:17 PM
"Heavily cyborg"?

I may be mistaken, but I'd been under the impression she went full cyborg as a result of the plane crash?

Or maybe the "heavily" is a slight mistranslation...
 
2013-02-13 07:38:48 PM

NeoCortex42: Ionessa: Wonder if Yoko Kanno is doing the music again as well.

I haven't seen it announced anywhere yet.  Usually when she's attached to a project, it's a pretty big announcement early on.  So I'm not expecting her to be involved.


Damn. Won't be the without her, especially of it's based on the SAC series.
 
2013-02-13 07:42:20 PM

ReaverZ: Last Exile


This.

So glad TechTV aired it when they did, or else I would've missed this series.

I'm still a bit weary of watching the second series of it though.
 
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