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(Yahoo)   Today's Generation Whine story comes to us from Lehigh University where a snowflake is suing the school over a grade she earned...four years ago   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 24
    More: Fail, Lehigh, college of education, Megan Thode, academic standards, Northampton County, sexual discriminations, degree programs  
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7332 clicks; posted to Main » on 12 Feb 2013 at 11:08 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-02-12 10:20:12 AM  
8 votes:
Is there some sort of rule at Lehigh where you aren't allowed to retake a class? Obviously I don't have all the facts, but how is it that a single grade that is two-thirds of a grade point lower than what she needed something so devastating not only to her academic progress but to her career as well?

She should take some advice from football players. A bad call late in the 4th causes you to lose by a field goal? Guess you should have been up by more than 2 points. If getting a zero for participation causes you to get a C+ and submarine your GPA so much that it destroys the career you were gunning for, you weren't doing well enough in the class to begin with.
2013-02-12 11:36:06 AM  
5 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Before filing her lawsuit, Thode filed complaints with the university over the C+ grade, showing up at meetings with her father, the finance professor. She sought a written apology from Carr, the course instructor, and a "plan for compensating me financially," notes The Morning Call

Biatch you got a mother-farking free ride and you WANT money?

I hate everything about this woman.


Look on the bright side. Any potential employers will now be able to instantly deem her "not what we're looking for" based on a simple google of her name.
2013-02-12 11:56:16 AM  
3 votes:
Yeah, a person who blames everybody else for her own failure would make an excellent counselor.
2013-02-12 11:06:51 AM  
3 votes:

kronicfeld: scottydoesntknow: Biatch you got a mother-farking free ride and you WANT money?

She had a free ride anyway. Assuming her allegations are true, how does that fact exonerate the professor?


I'm not assuming her allegations are true. You're the only one assuming things here (and 75% of your posts so far contain the word "assume"). I'm going by the facts. And yes, the fact that she got a completely free ride, still walked out with a masters, and then chose to sue 4 YEARS LATER, makes her a biatch.
2013-02-12 10:59:50 AM  
3 votes:

kronicfeld: You just completely changed the fact pattern. You specifically make yours about performance. Mine assumed performance was not the issue. Care to answer my actual question, or am I wasting my time here?


OK, serious answer.  If there were evidence of personal bias from that individual professor then address that to the University Ombudsman which exists for exactly this purpose.  I see no evidence of this presented in the article, the facts as presented in court may be different.  What I DO see is someone who chose a civil case to redress a personal failure, a lawyer who is presenting a spurious case and a waste of legal resources.

Add to this a person who received a free education and graduated with a Master Degree, and has the temerity to then sue the institution which gave it to her, and you have what can only be described as a callow asshole.
2013-02-12 11:46:06 AM  
2 votes:

YoungLochinvar: umad: *retaking the class

If it's a small program, then the professor in question might be the *only* one who teaches the course...


So suck it up and retake the class.  In the real world there 'might' be only one boss that you have to get along with.  And if you don't like your boss, you either suck it up or move on.  or be a whiny little shiat that nobody likes lol
2013-02-12 11:44:21 AM  
2 votes:
So a professor's kid goes to college, acts like an entitled coont (swearing and crying in class, as though the regular rules of civil behaviour don't apply to her), gets called on her attitude, then goes running to her daddy and, furthermore, has the audacity to claim discrimination based on sexuality, because she's dabbled in gay culture a little, maybe has a gay friend and audited a class on gender issues?


I disagree with her.
2013-02-12 11:19:04 AM  
2 votes:
Hamburg pointed out that Thode is the daughter of Lehigh finance professor Stephen Thode. One of the perks of that relationship was that she was able to enroll in the Lehigh graduate program tuition-free. The school provided her with a job as well. She also got to attend York College of Pennsylvania at no charge as an undergraduate thanks to her Lehigh connections, says The Call.

This explains so much. How do you spell entitled biatch? T-H-O-D-E.


Lehigh's lawyers allege that Thode's behavior in class was not acceptable for someone seeking a master's degree in counseling. On at least one occasion, they said, she used profanity in class. Another time, she broke down crying.

And she wants to be a counselor. Riiiight.

Before filing her lawsuit, Thode filed complaints with the university over the C+ grade, showing up at meetings with her father, the finance professor.

"Daddy, come help me!"

This is a lousy person who should be laughed out of court, and out of town, and out of the local diner.
2013-02-12 10:08:33 AM  
2 votes:
Before filing her lawsuit, Thode filed complaints with the university over the C+ grade, showing up at meetings with her father, the finance professor. She sought a written apology from Carr, the course instructor, and a "plan for compensating me financially," notes The Morning Call

Biatch you got a mother-farking free ride and you WANT money?

I hate everything about this woman.
2013-02-12 05:19:23 PM  
1 votes:

umad: "Fair" only works if everybody except you was allowed to leave the room.


You're thinking of "equal." It's a different concept.
2013-02-12 05:15:17 PM  
1 votes:

umad: The word you are looking for is "special."


Fair treatment is not necessarily equal treatment, and may well be special treatment. "No, you can't wear a hearing aid unless everyone else does." "No, you can't inject some insulin unless everyone else does." "No, you can't take the test after your morning sickness has abated unless everyone else does."
2013-02-12 04:39:04 PM  
1 votes:
You get free farking tuition. Take the farking class again. If you don't get your 3.0, take it again. And again. Participate the hell out of the damn class. Show up for every office hours for extra help. Eventually, even if the prof hates you, he will give you the 3.0 just so you shut up and go away.

Also, she sound like a prime example that the majority of Psychology majors are in it to figure out their own whack selves.
2013-02-12 03:57:40 PM  
1 votes:

umad: Kimothy: But go ahead and tell me I'm entitled because I demanded fair treatment. It's okay. I understand.

The word you are looking for is "special."

"Fair" only works if everybody except you was allowed to leave the room.


Oh bullshiat. If someone was horribly ill and provided a doctors note about the illness, they'd have been able to retake the final or have been accommodated. I brought the doctors note in advance and he still refused to make any accommodations. By the way, he was CONSTANTLY in trouble for discriminating against students, I was just one of many, many students who had difficulties with him. Not to mention that our state had laws against discriminating against pregnant women - which he clearly violated.

Fair and equal are not the same thing. What you are describing is equal treatment, but not fair. It's like writing a quiz on the board and then telling anyone with glasses that they can't use them - it makes everyone equal, because no one is allowed to use a magnifying lens on the exam. But it sure as hell isn't fair.
2013-02-12 12:07:59 PM  
1 votes:

exick: h causes you to lose by a field goal? Guess you should have been up by more than 2 points. If getting a zero for participation causes you to get a C+ and submarine your GPA so much that it destroys the career you were gunning for, you weren't doing well enough in the class to begin with.


granted, she's an idiot.

But to be fair, depending on how much "class participation" was counted as, it could have torpedoed her grade. I once had 119 % in a class (I never missed a question on anything, the rest of the class was so stupid, she had to curve and threw out my scores to issue the curve), only to miss the midterm because I was sick, to have 40% of my grade lost, and ended up with a C like this girl.

Was it fair? No. Was it my fault? Partially. I should have checked with the professor instead of not attending that day, even though I was busy puking my guts out with the flu. -Life lesson learned.

While this girl is an idiot, I personally think "class participation" is bullshiat. Any teacher can give you a low score in that and destroy your grade if they don't like you.

For that matter, class attendance affecting your grade is bullshiat as well. We once had a professor that would take off a *letter* grade if you missed a day of class without a doctor's note. And even *with* a doctor's note, you could only miss two days total the entire semester.
2013-02-12 12:04:52 PM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: Should there be no remedy available for that?


Whatever hypothetical remedy should not include changing her grade.  I don't think judges should be doing that.
2013-02-12 11:59:11 AM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: Assume everything she says is true, and that her professor willfully and maliciously gave her a bad grade not because of her performance, but because of a personal or ideological vendetta. Assume further that because of that one grade, she was unable to ever obtain a particular professional certification that carries with it significantly greater earning potential. Should there be no remedy available for that?


Yeah, there should be a remedy in your completely hypothetical example. What does that have to do with this story?
2013-02-12 11:40:29 AM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: Assume everything she says is true, and that her professor willfully and maliciously gave her a bad grade not because of her performance, but because of a personal or ideological vendetta. Assume further that because of that one grade, she was unable to ever obtain a particular professional certification that carries with it significantly greater earning potential. Should there be no remedy available for that?


You mean, like, taking the class again and getting a better grade?
2013-02-12 11:36:37 AM  
1 votes:

YoungLochinvar: eyeq360: If she got a bad grade and she thought it was unfair, shouldn't she have complained about it after she got the poor grade and not four years later in a freaking law suit?

From the article, it would appear that she has been petitioning the university for some time...


So we're supposed to feel sorry for her because she wasted four years trying to get her grade changed instead of taking the class? Now where is that violin...
2013-02-12 11:15:31 AM  
1 votes:
If she got a bad grade and she thought it was unfair, shouldn't she have complained about it after she got the poor grade and not four years later in a freaking law suit?
2013-02-12 11:11:00 AM  
1 votes:
Perhaps she was like some other students who don't pay a dime for their education, they don't take it seriously enough.   She didn't take it serious, she got bad marks.  Now, years later, she has realized that all that goofing off has cost her, so she's looking to hold someone accountable for it.
2013-02-12 11:09:36 AM  
1 votes:

doyner: If that class was, in fact, a single-point-failure risk, AND she attended class and participated, then yeah, she may well have a point here.


Based on reading the requirements for the degree track she was on at Lehigh's website, there are a few classes that have to be passed with a particular grade or better before moving on. However, I see nothing that precludes retaking a class in order to improve the grade. And considering that one of the required courses for her degree is Diversity and Multicultural Perspectives, I find her claim that she was treated poorly because of her support of LGBT causes to be spurious at best.
2013-02-12 10:15:28 AM  
1 votes:

kronicfeld: Assume everything she says is true, and that her professor willfully and maliciously gave her a bad grade not because of her performance, but because of a personal or ideological vendetta. Assume further that because of that one grade, she was unable to ever obtain a particular professional certification that carries with it significantly greater earning potential. Should there be no remedy available for that?


Assume that had I studied harder in High School, I might have gotten a scholarship and not been sitting on a shiat ton of student loans.  Can I go back and sue my high school for that?  If you want something and are willing and able to do the work, one grade in one class will not prevent you from doing so.  Even in medical school they don't wash you out for failing one class.
2013-02-12 10:06:32 AM  
1 votes:
Assume everything she says is true, and that her professor willfully and maliciously gave her a bad grade not because of her performance, but because of a personal or ideological vendetta. Assume further that because of that one grade, she was unable to ever obtain a particular professional certification that carries with it significantly greater earning potential. Should there be no remedy available for that?
2013-02-12 10:06:15 AM  
1 votes:
What. The. Fark?

Someone needs to take this person and her lawyer out and strike them repeatedly about the head and shoulders with a sack full of nickles until they apologize and promise to never step foot in a courthouse again.
 
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