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(NPR)   Will President Obama promise more of the same? Will there be an emotional tribute to the recent victims of gun violence? Will the Right overreact? Will Ted Nugent disappear forever? It's your official State of the Union Discussion Thread   (npr.org) divider line 2410
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2013-02-12 09:50:28 AM  
I'm going to guess yes to all the above except for Uncle Teddy.
 
2013-02-12 09:52:13 AM  
I'm willing to bet Ted disrupts the event and is escorted out by the secret service.
 
2013-02-12 09:52:39 AM  
CSPAN streams the SOTU, right?  This one might be interesting.  Still haven't made it through one of his without getting pissed off and turning off the TV.
 
2013-02-12 09:54:18 AM  
What's up with the State of The Union address happening on Mardi Gras? Is this going to be some kind of secret announcement he doesn't want New Orleans to hear?
 
2013-02-12 09:55:17 AM  

Lurking Fear: I'm willing to bet Ted disrupts the event and is escorted out by the secret service.


That's about all the capacity he has to do. What's the criminal penalty for such disruptions anyway? Disorderly conduct and a few hours in the tank? $50 and time served when you go see the night court judge?
 
2013-02-12 09:58:29 AM  

nekom: That's about all the capacity he has to do. What's the criminal penalty for such disruptions anyway? Disorderly conduct and a few hours in the tank? $50 and time served when you go see the night court judge?


no way he's going to do anything of the sort. He's trying the be responsible face of gun ownership.

I bet he even tears up a little during the exploitation moving tribute to the memory of the children of Sandy Hook.
 
2013-02-12 09:58:48 AM  

Lurking Fear: I'm willing to bet Ted disrupts the event and is escorted out by the secret service.


I don't know.  I'm hoping Obama calls him out, and asks him how HE would solve the gun violence problem.  Can't imagine Ted could do anything after that other than look like a lunatic.
 
2013-02-12 10:01:26 AM  

Vodka Zombie: Lurking Fear: I'm willing to bet Ted disrupts the event and is escorted out by the secret service.

I don't know.  I'm hoping Obama calls him out, and asks him how HE would solve the gun violence problem.  Can't imagine Ted could do anything after that other than look like a lunatic.


Yeah, that'll play well on TV: the President attacking people in a forum where they can't talk back.  I can think of no quicker way for the Democrats to lose all support on addressing gun violence.
 
2013-02-12 10:02:00 AM  
Will the Right Overreact?

Dude, they're already planning on overreacting right now as we speak.
 
2013-02-12 10:07:33 AM  

GAT_00: Vodka Zombie: Lurking Fear: I'm willing to bet Ted disrupts the event and is escorted out by the secret service.

I don't know.  I'm hoping Obama calls him out, and asks him how HE would solve the gun violence problem.  Can't imagine Ted could do anything after that other than look like a lunatic.

Yeah, that'll play well on TV: the President attacking people in a forum where they can't talk back.  I can think of no quicker way for the Democrats to lose all support on addressing gun violence.


Yeah.  I don't think it'd be a real "attack" or anything, but it would be odd to deviate from a prepared speech to ask the audience a question.  Still, the SOTU is not really the place to have any sort of debate.
 
2013-02-12 10:16:50 AM  
I couldn't sleep last night. I was up all night worried that the state of our union isn't strong. I hope Obama can tell me otherwise.
 
2013-02-12 10:21:47 AM  
Probably, very likely, absolutely, and hopefully.
 
2013-02-12 10:25:35 AM  
I became amused and then depressed when I realized this morning my train of thought was "I might watch the State of the Union address to see if Ted Nugent is actually going to try to kill the president," and that it was actually a plausible scenario and not a really warped Family Guy cutaway gag.
 
2013-02-12 10:27:18 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: He's trying the be responsible face of gun ownership.


pinkie.mylittlefacewhen.com
 
2013-02-12 10:28:40 AM  
 
2013-02-12 10:37:06 AM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Obama Speech Will "Throw Down the Gauntlet" to Congress


No he won't.  He'll start backing away from this fight like he has every other one over the last four years.  Expect lots of bland platitudes about moderation being the best and a clear avoidance of a stand on the sequester.
 
2013-02-12 10:44:06 AM  

Lurking Fear: I'm willing to bet Ted disrupts the event and is escorted out by the secret service.


I came here to say the same thing.
 
2013-02-12 10:45:10 AM  

GAT_00: He'll start backing away from this fight like he has every other one over the last four years.


He may do that tonight, but I don't agree he's backed away from every other one over the last four years.
 
2013-02-12 10:46:48 AM  

Bloody William: The Stealth Hippopotamus: He's trying the be responsible face of gun ownership.

[pinkie.mylittlefacewhen.com image 455x403]


I said he was trying! I did not say he was pulling it off. Just to much history.
 
2013-02-12 11:02:08 AM  
Barack Obama will finally stand up to Republicans like liberals have demanded he do since day one. Through the magic power of his words, he'll convince the entire Congress to do everything he wants them to.  The President will then look deeply into every camera in the room at the same time and convince every American to give up their guns and instil a desire for them to be taxed at 90%.
 
2013-02-12 11:02:36 AM  
Will Deb Carey get a shout-out?

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2013-02-12 11:11:05 AM  
Did they have the SOTU on Mardi Gras just so John Boehner could be drunk the whole time?
 
2013-02-12 11:14:03 AM  
www.familysecuritymatters.org
 
2013-02-12 11:19:07 AM  

Lurking Fear: I'm willing to bet Ted disrupts the event and is escorted out by the secret service.


Can they just shoot him?

kid_icarus: Will the Right Overreact?

Dude, they're already planning on overreacting right now as we speak.


FTFY
 
2013-02-12 11:20:05 AM  

tallguywithglasseson: Will Deb Carey get a shout-out?

[i48.tinypic.com image 250x375]


OMG I LOVE THAT BEER
 
2013-02-12 11:23:57 AM  

Lurking Fear: I'm willing to bet Ted disrupts the event and is escorted out by the secret service.



No, he'll just sit there with Stockman where they'll both do some minor attention-whoring, hoping to recreate some Joe Wilson "you lie" magic on their own. Problem is that's been done before, and lacking any particular wit or cleverness they won't be able to do much besides leave most people with the impression that they're immature disrespectful little twits. Nothing noteworthy will happen unless one of them gets really frustrated that they're being ignored by Obama and the Secret Service.

Unfortunately the TV directors will make sure some of their cameras are pointed at them the whole time in the hopes that something weird will happen, so we'll be treated to continuous views of Nugent's American-Flag-and-Camouflage fashion ensemble, untrimmed eyebrow and nose hair, and whatever stupid hat he decides to keep on his head the whole time.
 
2013-02-12 11:29:09 AM  
I saw an interview with Nugent yesterday on CNN.  He makes more sense than anybody else has on the issue and based on gun threads on Fark, I guarantee that most fakers would take his side rather than Obama's.
 
2013-02-12 11:32:17 AM  
Drinking game rules?

I remember when we were all drawing our drinking words out of the hat during the debates, and some poor bastard drew "small business." I imagine he's blind now.
 
2013-02-12 11:32:24 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: nekom: That's about all the capacity he has to do. What's the criminal penalty for such disruptions anyway? Disorderly conduct and a few hours in the tank? $50 and time served when you go see the night court judge?

no way he's going to do anything of the sort. He's trying the be responsible face of gun ownership.

I bet he even tears up a little during the exploitation moving tribute to the memory of the children of Sandy Hook.


First: LOL

Second: As a gun-control advocate, I say "keep up the good work, Ted"  You and Wayne are making enormous strides for the cause of gun control.
 
2013-02-12 11:36:10 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: Second: As a gun-control advocate, I say "keep up the good work, Ted"  You and Wayne are making enormous strides for the cause of gun control.


Ayup.

Voters consider NRA endorsement a negative
 
2013-02-12 11:36:49 AM  
I'm guessing that at about this moment, Boner is pretty much offering to suck Ted Nugent's ... whatever... to get him to have a "scheduling conflict" which will make him "regrettably unable to attend", saving the GOP the spectacle of pretty much giving the Democratic party it's entire ad content for the next decade or so.

/still getting some mileage out of the "you lie" schmuck...
 
2013-02-12 12:00:33 PM  
Assuming Nuge can even get in. He's on secret seevoce watch lists for making threats against Obama.
 
2013-02-12 12:25:21 PM  

Dusk-You-n-Me: Voters consider NRA endorsement a negative


More people disapprove of the President than the NRA.
 
2013-02-12 12:27:41 PM  
Rand Paul (not to be confused with RON PAUL) is giving the Tea Party response.
Can we take this as an indication that the Tea Party will no longer be recognized as a part of the Republican Party?

Are we looking at the New Dixiecrats?
 
2013-02-12 12:28:00 PM  

GAT_00: Dusk-You-n-Me: Obama Speech Will "Throw Down the Gauntlet" to Congress

No he won't.  He'll start backing away from this fight like he has every other one over the last four years.  Expect lots of bland platitudes about moderation being the best and a clear avoidance of a stand on the sequester.


Someone didn't pay attention to either the "fiscal cliff" or debt ceiling fights. Or the inaugural. Or really anything since he's been re-elected.

Not that I'm surprised, you have this weird obsession with finding disagreements with the President to somehow maintain your street cred.
 
2013-02-12 12:28:56 PM  

Lurking Fear: I'm willing to bet Ted disrupts the event and is escorted out by the secret service.


I, too, believe this will happen.
 
2013-02-12 12:29:51 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Dusk-You-n-Me: Voters consider NRA endorsement a negative

More people disapprove of the President than the NRA.



Contrariwise, more people approve of the President than approve of the NRA (49% vs 41%).
 
2013-02-12 12:37:07 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Dusk-You-n-Me: Voters consider NRA endorsement a negative

More people disapprove of the President than the NRA.


LOL WUT .jpeg
 
2013-02-12 12:41:59 PM  
I hate this season.

The plot seems to be driven by a point made last season and I'm tired of older characters being brought back. Just stay with the main ones.
I'm also tired of the "will they or won't they?"
The bad guys just keep repeating the same things over and over.
There needs to be a new plot twist soon or I'll stop watching.
 
2013-02-12 12:43:06 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I saw an interview with Nugent yesterday on CNN.  He makes more sense than anybody else has on the issue and based on gun threads on Fark, I guarantee that most fakers would take his side rather than Obama's.


I doubt it very much. His persona is to be the "crazy" rocker and to be passionate. The last calm intellegent spokesperson amoung rockers was Zappa taking on censorship.
 
2013-02-12 12:44:10 PM  
It would be funny if Ted tries to citizen's arrest the illegal immigrant.

seriously, we now invite illegal immigrants to the SOTU?
 
2013-02-12 12:47:22 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: It would be funny if Ted tries to citizen's arrest the illegal immigrant.

seriously, we now invite illegal immigrants to the SOTU?


It would be funnier if he tried, but then the Secret Service tazed his sorry ass and he shiat his pants.

Seriously, we now invite pants-shiatting draft dodgers who make death threats to the SOTU?
 
2013-02-12 12:49:25 PM  

give me doughnuts: Contrariwise, more people approve of the President than approve of the NRA (49% vs 41%).


That's why I said disapprove. Of course we don't have a "undecided or no opinion" on the Job the President is doing. However I doubt that would be a large number very few people would admit they didn't have an option on the President.
 
2013-02-12 12:52:18 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: It would be funny if Ted tries to citizen's arrest the illegal immigrant.

seriously, we now invite illegal immigrants to the SOTU?

It would be funnier if he tried, but then the Secret Service tazed his sorry ass and he shiat his pants.

Seriously, we now invite pants-shiatting draft dodgers who make death threats to the SOTU?


What's with all the ad-hominems? I'm not a Nugent fan, but everyone shiats their pants at some point.
 
2013-02-12 12:56:48 PM  

snowjack: Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: It would be funny if Ted tries to citizen's arrest the illegal immigrant.

seriously, we now invite illegal immigrants to the SOTU?

It would be funnier if he tried, but then the Secret Service tazed his sorry ass and he shiat his pants.

Seriously, we now invite pants-shiatting draft dodgers who make death threats to the SOTU?

What's with all the ad-hominems? I'm not a Nugent fan, but everyone shiats their pants at some point.


Most of us stop before adulthood.

Of course, "adulthood" still doesn't apply to Teddy, but he should at least have the decency to wear diapers.
 
2013-02-12 12:57:10 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: It would be funny if Ted tries to citizen's arrest the illegal immigrant.

seriously, we now invite illegal immigrants to the SOTU?

It would be funnier if he tried, but then the Secret Service tazed his sorry ass and he shiat his pants.

Seriously, we now invite pants-shiatting draft dodgers who make death threats to the SOTU?


Yeah. Ted should not have been invited either. That was stupid.
 
2013-02-12 12:57:34 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: GAT_00: Dusk-You-n-Me: Obama Speech Will "Throw Down the Gauntlet" to Congress

No he won't.  He'll start backing away from this fight like he has every other one over the last four years.  Expect lots of bland platitudes about moderation being the best and a clear avoidance of a stand on the sequester.

Someone didn't pay attention to either the "fiscal cliff" or debt ceiling fights. Or the inaugural. Or really anything since he's been re-elected.

Not that I'm surprised, you have this weird obsession with finding disagreements with the President to somehow maintain your street cred.


I believe GAT_00 comes from an very liberal viewpoint. So his dissapointment is very understandable... Obama isn't a lefty, but center left moderate (or a reasonable conservative by worlds standards)

Despite Obamas own accomplishments(he had the most active and successful legislative runs in his first year than any President since FDR)

Obama will be different because its all legacy now. He has no worries about reelection.

I'm glad, very Gladrial liberals are not lock step thinkers like conservatives.
 
2013-02-12 12:57:47 PM  
Interesting feedback function. "This matters to me because..."

Test site: Link
 
2013-02-12 12:58:06 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: didn't have an option on the President.


I don't have an option on the President.

I don't have a strong opinion either. He's done some things I like, he's done some things I don't like.

/I'm sad that "meh" is the best I feel like I can hope for these days.
 
2013-02-12 12:59:49 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: give me doughnuts: Contrariwise, more people approve of the President than approve of the NRA (49% vs 41%).

That's why I said disapprove. Of course we don't have a "undecided or no opinion" on the Job the President is doing. However I doubt that would be a large number very few people would admit they didn't have an option on the President.



So ... your comment, the first one, was basically meaningless then?
 
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