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(Comics Alliance)   After eight years and 100 issues, Geoff Johns is turning in his power ring   (comicsalliance.com) divider line 37
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2013-02-12 12:46:33 PM
I just have a feeling there's more to it. With this and the weird thing with Simone, I think DC is telling writers to do stupid things to characters and writers are getting ticked off.
 
2013-02-12 12:51:51 PM
finally...
 
2013-02-12 12:56:59 PM

Zombie DJ: I just have a feeling there's more to it. With this and the weird thing with Simone, I think DC is telling writers to do stupid things to characters and writers are getting ticked off.


Wouldn't surprise me. DC has been pulling a lot of shenanigans since the New52 started.
 
2013-02-12 12:57:23 PM
This is a little sad. Johns' Pre-"New52" Green Lantern were my first comic purchases on my iPad. His run of Green Lantern has been some great space opera and is clearly the inspiration of the excellent Green Lantern animated series now on Cartoon Network.
 
2013-02-12 01:00:44 PM

Zombie DJ: I just have a feeling there's more to it. With this and the weird thing with Simone, I think DC is telling writers to do stupid things to characters and writers are getting ticked off.


Johns is still the creative director, and still writing like five or six series, so I don't think this is evidence of that trend, although DC does treat their writers like shiat. It's not just Johns though, all of the Lantern writers are getting kicked off.
 
2013-02-12 01:13:23 PM

PonceAlyosha: Zombie DJ: I just have a feeling there's more to it. With this and the weird thing with Simone, I think DC is telling writers to do stupid things to characters and writers are getting ticked off.

Johns is still the creative director, and still writing like five or six series, so I don't think this is evidence of that trend, although DC does treat their writers like shiat. It's not just Johns though, all of the Lantern writers are getting kicked off.


Exactly.

Johns is a DC corporate man. He's the one doing the farking, not the one getting farked.

/Get him back to Hollywood, promote Didio to a position in WB where he will never deal with comics ever again, and hire someone who can get DC comics back to being readable.
 
2013-02-12 01:14:31 PM

PonceAlyosha: Zombie DJ: I just have a feeling there's more to it. With this and the weird thing with Simone, I think DC is telling writers to do stupid things to characters and writers are getting ticked off.

Johns is still the creative director, and still writing like five or six series, so I don't think this is evidence of that trend, although DC does treat their writers like shiat. It's not just Johns though, all of the Lantern writers are getting kicked off.


At Johns, DC or both?

Jeremysbrain: This is a little sad. Johns' Pre-"New52" Green Lantern were my first comic purchases on my iPad. His run of Green Lantern has been some great space opera and is clearly the inspiration of the excellent Green Lantern animated series now on Cartoon Network.


Without a doubt "Rebirth" was one of the best stories I've ever read, period.  Always loved GL but got put off by the shenanigans of some previous writers (I'M LOOKING AT YOU RON MARZ!).  Johns did the (almost) unthinkable and was able to weave the past and the present into giving the series a clean slate and making Hal heroic again.

....and then I've read some of his current work and ask 'WTF HAPPENED TO GEOFF JOHNS?!"
 
2013-02-12 01:21:05 PM

Rwa2play: PonceAlyosha: Zombie DJ: I just have a feeling there's more to it. With this and the weird thing with Simone, I think DC is telling writers to do stupid things to characters and writers are getting ticked off.

Johns is still the creative director, and still writing like five or six series, so I don't think this is evidence of that trend, although DC does treat their writers like shiat. It's not just Johns though, all of the Lantern writers are getting kicked off.

At Johns, DC or both?

Jeremysbrain: This is a little sad. Johns' Pre-"New52" Green Lantern were my first comic purchases on my iPad. His run of Green Lantern has been some great space opera and is clearly the inspiration of the excellent Green Lantern animated series now on Cartoon Network.

Without a doubt "Rebirth" was one of the best stories I've ever read, period.  Always loved GL but got put off by the shenanigans of some previous writers (I'M LOOKING AT YOU RON MARZ!).  Johns did the (almost) unthinkable and was able to weave the past and the present into giving the series a clean slate and making Hal heroic again.

....and then I've read some of his current work and ask 'WTF HAPPENED TO GEOFF JOHNS?!"


If I had to guess, I'd say it comes down to one thing... he now has no editor.

You can't tell the boss "hey, this is crap, go back and write something that isn't crap."

When he was writing Stars and STRIPE, or JSA, he wasn't a DC Corporate man, he was just a hired writer. So, someone could tell him where to stick his "everything has to be like it was in 1978 when I was masturbating to a non-crippled Barbara Gordon" bullshiat.

Now? He can write whatever he wants, and who will question it?
 
2013-02-12 01:32:38 PM
I read more Marvel than DC, but every so often I pick up some DC titles and Johns reminds me that Bendis, for all his flaws, isn't that bad.
 
2013-02-12 01:34:49 PM

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Zombie DJ: I just have a feeling there's more to it. With this and the weird thing with Simone, I think DC is telling writers to do stupid things to characters and writers are getting ticked off.

Wouldn't surprise me. DC has been pulling a lot of shenanigans since the New52 started.


Except Johns also occupies a high-ranking management position. He's not EiC, but he's pretty damned close. This, much more than the Simone stuff, seems like his choice.
 
2013-02-12 01:38:36 PM
Since there's some DC folks in this thread, question:

The wife wanted to get the eldest girl (7) some Wonder Woman. She picked up the trade of the first few issues of the New52 run.

Having not reviewed it before purchase, turns out it may be a touch intense, maybe, for a 7 year old. I kinda like it, but I'm a sucker for new visual perspectives on the Greek pantheon (or any other, really).

So, I found this:

http://ifanboy.com/articles/wonder-woman-where-do-i-start/

which seems like it may know things about which it speaks, but, I'm tossing out the question anyway.
 
2013-02-12 01:42:03 PM

mark.jms: Since there's some DC folks in this thread, question:

The wife wanted to get the eldest girl (7) some Wonder Woman. She picked up the trade of the first few issues of the New52 run.

Having not reviewed it before purchase, turns out it may be a touch intense, maybe, for a 7 year old. I kinda like it, but I'm a sucker for new visual perspectives on the Greek pantheon (or any other, really).

So, I found this:

http://ifanboy.com/articles/wonder-woman-where-do-i-start/

which seems like it may know things about which it speaks, but, I'm tossing out the question anyway.


For a kid?

The George Perez run is probably best.

But honestly, I'd recommend Marvel's old Spider-Girl series over anything Wonder Woman. There really aren't that many Wonder Woman stories that are both good and all-ages friendly.
 
2013-02-12 01:52:04 PM

FirstNationalBastard: mark.jms: Since there's some DC folks in this thread, question:


But honestly, I'd recommend Marvel's old Spider-Girl series over anything Wonder Woman. There really aren't that many Wonder Woman stories that are both good and all-ages friendly.


Ah, she'd like that. Looks like there was a "Spider Girl" from ~2000ish for 100 issues, then an "Amazing Spider Girl" for another 30, same author though, Tom DeFalco.

Thank FSM for Wikipedia collating all this. Comics aren't quite within my wheelhouse-of-nerdity.

And thanks for the info!
 
2013-02-12 01:56:27 PM
I always found it odd that the GL books just continued their storylines after they got renumbered/rebooted in New 52, while almost all of the other titles (save for maybe Batman & Robin) reflected this new universe. It like even Johns said, "Eff that. I had a story to tell. I'm going to finish it." The four Lantern titles, for the most part, could've been part of the old DCU.

I hate thinking at how much of a mess DC is right now, between their comics universe and what little exists of their movie universe.
I guess Stan Lee said it best: "Make Mine Marvel!"
 
2013-02-12 01:58:27 PM

Gaambit: I always found it odd that the GL books just continued their storylines after they got renumbered/rebooted in New 52, while almost all of the other titles (save for maybe Batman & Robin) reflected this new universe. It like even Johns said, "Eff that. I had a story to tell. I'm going to finish it." The four Lantern titles, for the most part, could've been part of the old DCU.

I hate thinking at how much of a mess DC is right now, between their comics universe and what little exists of their movie universe.
I guess Stan Lee said it best: "Make Mine Marvel!"


Honestly, it's more like Image Ideas are Impressive these days.
 
2013-02-12 02:06:49 PM
YAY!  With any luck, Johns can move on to another company, leave behind his creative director position and we can finally get the real Green Lantern of Earth back.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-12 02:12:01 PM

JosephFinn: YAY!  With any luck, Johns can move on to another company, leave behind his creative director position and we can finally get the real Green Lantern of Earth back.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 455x700]


Don't forget the real Flash

media.comicvine.com

The real Bart Allen

images.wikia.com

And, the real Barbara Gordon

goodcomics.comicbookresources.com
 
2013-02-12 02:24:54 PM

JosephFinn: YAY!  With any luck, Johns can move on to another company, leave behind his creative director position and we can finally get the real Green Lantern of Earth back.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 455x700]


Hell naw. Not that moron.

Use the only competent Green Lantern.

dcuguide.com
 
2013-02-12 02:35:49 PM

PIP_the_TROLL: JosephFinn: YAY!  With any luck, Johns can move on to another company, leave behind his creative director position and we can finally get the real Green Lantern of Earth back.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 455x700]

Hell naw. Not that moron.

Use the only competent Green Lantern.

[dcuguide.com image 250x390]


Competent means allowing a planet to blow up because of ego?
 
2013-02-12 02:39:30 PM
There's only one Green Lantern worth reading.

images.wikia.com
 
2013-02-12 02:44:04 PM

Kangaroo_Ralph: There's only one Green Lantern worth reading.

[images.wikia.com image 744x1024]


Okay, now you're just trolling because all the good GLs were taken.  You could at least have gone with Alan Scott for old school cred.
 
2013-02-12 03:36:21 PM

JosephFinn: YAY!  With any luck, Johns can move on to another company, leave behind his creative director position and we can finally get the real Green Lantern of Earth back.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 455x700]


Is that Kyle? I can't tell, my nerd cred isn't high enough
 
2013-02-12 03:53:10 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Competent means allowing a planet to blow up because of ego?



Yeah, yeah. Xanshi. But on balance, Stewart is the only GL you can actually rely on. The only one you can give a mission to who isn't going to fark it up.

And the Xanshi thing was out of character for him even in retrospect and context.
 
2013-02-12 04:30:07 PM

FirstNationalBastard: JosephFinn: YAY!  With any luck, Johns can move on to another company, leave behind his creative director position and we can finally get the real Green Lantern of Earth back.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 455x700]

Don't forget the real Flash

[media.comicvine.com image 850x973]

The real Bart Allen

[images.wikia.com image 850x1271]

And, the real Barbara Gordon

[goodcomics.comicbookresources.com image 400x620]


Damn straight on all three (god damn, I miss Wally).  Especially Barbara (though if I'm going to be fair, Gail Simone is writing the hell out of Batgirl.)

BattleFrenchie28: JosephFinn: YAY!  With any luck, Johns can move on to another company, leave behind his creative director position and we can finally get the real Green Lantern of Earth back.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 455x700]

Is that Kyle? I can't tell, my nerd cred isn't high enough


Yes, it is.
 
2013-02-12 04:39:09 PM

Kangaroo_Ralph: There's only one Green Lantern worth reading.

[images.wikia.com image 744x1024]


Amen to that! Guy is is the best Lantern.
 
2013-02-12 05:07:06 PM

FirstNationalBastard: And, the real Barbara Gordon

[goodcomics.comicbookresources.com image 400x620]


No knock on Simone's Batgirl, but I like THIS Barbara Gordon.

/but take her out of the chair
//if Canary could get her cry back
///then Babs can get her legs back
 
2013-02-12 05:23:35 PM
It seems to me that both the new marvel and DC mags are mostly dramatic splash poses and little text.
All sizzle, little steak. Somebody with worse OCD than mine (or really stoned) ought to do a word count comparison...
 
2013-02-12 05:27:11 PM

PIP_the_TROLL: JosephFinn: YAY!  With any luck, Johns can move on to another company, leave behind his creative director position and we can finally get the real Green Lantern of Earth back.

Hell naw. Not that moron.

Use the only competent Green Lantern.


Lazakesau: Kangaroo_Ralph: There's only one Green Lantern worth reading.


JosephFinn: YAY!  With any luck, Johns can move on to another company, leave behind his creative director position and we can finally get the real Green Lantern of Earth back.

[24.media.tumblr.com image 455x700]


Amen to that! Guy is is the best Lantern.


Damn kids and their fancy new shiny comic books.

 http://www.theonion.com/articles/when-you-are-ready-to-have-a-serio us- conversation,16308/
 
2013-02-12 06:07:23 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: You could at least have gone with Alan Scott for old school cred.


They rebooted him too, he no longer has a weakness to wood.
 
2013-02-12 06:24:15 PM
I heard Tom Clancy is going to be doing a six issue run.
 
2013-02-12 07:32:39 PM

grimlaf: It seems to me that both the new marvel and DC mags are mostly dramatic splash poses and little text.
All sizzle, little steak. Somebody with worse OCD than mine (or really stoned) ought to do a word count comparison...


I used to be able to read a comic while taking a crap. Now it takes two or three. I agree that splash pages and action shots with little dialogue seem to be getting more commin.
 
2013-02-12 07:42:32 PM

Fano: grimlaf: It seems to me that both the new marvel and DC mags are mostly dramatic splash poses and little text.
All sizzle, little steak. Somebody with worse OCD than mine (or really stoned) ought to do a word count comparison...

I used to be able to read a comic while taking a crap. Now it takes two or three. I agree that splash pages and action shots with little dialogue seem to be getting more commin.


I think much of my dissatisfaction with modern comics in general, and Geoff Johns in particular, began with Flash #1 (2010? 2009?), when the first 10 pages or so were all double page spreads with maybe 2 words on the pages, if any.

That was a 4 dollar "double sized" issue, where a quarter of the book was completely pointless and could have been condensed into one single page with 6 panels.

Hell, the average modern comic takes less than 5 minutes to read. Break out a Chris Claremont X-Men book from the 70s, and you'd have to be shiatting your liver out to be able to finish that while on the toilet.
 
2013-02-12 07:44:27 PM

mark.jms: Since there's some DC folks in this thread, question:

The wife wanted to get the eldest girl (7) some Wonder Woman. She picked up the trade of the first few issues of the New52 run.

Having not reviewed it before purchase, turns out it may be a touch intense, maybe, for a 7 year old. I kinda like it, but I'm a sucker for new visual perspectives on the Greek pantheon (or any other, really).

So, I found this:

http://ifanboy.com/articles/wonder-woman-where-do-i-start/

which seems like it may know things about which it speaks, but, I'm tossing out the question anyway.


I cant think of much Wonder Woman comics that would be suitable. If she's into female superheros, then the Supergirl: Cosmic Adventures in the 8th Grade could be a good pick. Haven't read myself but it's supposed to be a good all-ages book.
 
2013-02-12 10:30:11 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Fano: grimlaf: It seems to me that both the new marvel and DC mags are mostly dramatic splash poses and little text.
All sizzle, little steak. Somebody with worse OCD than mine (or really stoned) ought to do a word count comparison...

I used to be able to read a comic while taking a crap. Now it takes two or three. I agree that splash pages and action shots with little dialogue seem to be getting more commin.

I think much of my dissatisfaction with modern comics in general, and Geoff Johns in particular, began with Flash #1 (2010? 2009?), when the first 10 pages or so were all double page spreads with maybe 2 words on the pages, if any.

That was a 4 dollar "double sized" issue, where a quarter of the book was completely pointless and could have been condensed into one single page with 6 panels.

Hell, the average modern comic takes less than 5 minutes to read. Break out a Chris Claremont X-Men book from the 70s, and you'd have to be shiatting your liver out to be able to finish that while on the toilet.


Ok, so I wasn't imagining it. Thanks for the confirmation that I hadn't suddenly become a speed reader, capable of plowing through an entire comic in less than a minute.
 
2013-02-13 08:36:00 AM
I'll say that I love the Green Lantern stuff from Johns.  I love the Corps and the long slow build up that led to Blackest Night.  It was a pretty good climax for that story, even with only passing knowledge of the rest of the DC universe and how the 'event' affected it.  Saying that, I haven't even read any of the followup Brightest Day stuff yet.  Too busy watching for collected versions of the GL and Corps books.

There isn't much in the DC lineup I can read.  I loved Birds of Prey when it started, and Green Arrow when Kevin Smith raised the bar, but once DC started seeing these as flagship titles and could replace the writers and artists as they saw fit, it ruined most of the titles.  Now I know that's the nature of the industry, but it means there is no way I'm going to drop four bucks minimum issue to issue these days.  Maybe if I was still working in a comic store and was completely immersed in the culture, the preview knowledge and knew when such changes were happening... but I don't have the time, money, nor inclination to deal with such uneven mediocrity.

I'm not reading anything right now, but need to catch up on the Hellboy stuff at least.  Did you know there are collected volumes of the Avengers' pets? Pretty goofy stuff and fun to read.
 
2013-02-13 04:21:57 PM

Kurmudgeon: LowbrowDeluxe: You could at least have gone with Alan Scott for old school cred.

They rebooted him too, he no longer has a weakness to wood.


Nope. He's gay now, so he still has a weakness to wood. NTTATWWT.
 
2013-02-13 04:27:21 PM

Elusive Goose: mark.jms: Since there's some DC folks in this thread, question:

The wife wanted to get the eldest girl (7) some Wonder Woman. She picked up the trade of the first few issues of the New52 run.

Having not reviewed it before purchase, turns out it may be a touch intense, maybe, for a 7 year old. I kinda like it, but I'm a sucker for new visual perspectives on the Greek pantheon (or any other, really).

So, I found this:

http://ifanboy.com/articles/wonder-woman-where-do-i-start/

which seems like it may know things about which it speaks, but, I'm tossing out the question anyway.

I cant think of much Wonder Woman comics that would be suitable. If she's into female superheros, then the Supergirl: Cosmic Adventures in the 8th Grade could be a good pick. Haven't read myself but it's supposed to be a good all-ages book.


Look up Tiny Titans or Superman Family Adventures. All of Tiny Titans' 50 issue run was also collected in 8 trade paperbacks, and SFA is ending soon after 12 issues, so either grab then individually, or wait for the paperback collections. .
 
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