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(93.9 MIA)   A hospital? What is it? It's a big building with patients that you go to when you're sick that you have a 20% chance of revisiting a month after you're released, but that's not important right now   (939mia.com) divider line 83
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2013-02-12 12:04:03 PM
You can't have Hospice without Hospital.....
 
2013-02-12 12:04:47 PM
Those that died after visiting the hospital were obviously not readmitted.
 
2013-02-12 12:06:48 PM
Wait, are they talking about when the surgery's over, or just the surgeries under Dunn?
 
2013-02-12 12:07:50 PM
Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(
 
2013-02-12 12:09:34 PM
The "real" money is in treatment, not cure.
Go USA, the most expensive medical care in the world, because you can afford it.
Profiting from human suffering and disease has never been more highly regarded, or so some would have you believe.
farkin' sheeple
 
2013-02-12 12:09:45 PM

momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(


I'm sorry for your loss.

Hospitals are nasty places. I let a neighbor culture my shoes for science class. Shoes I wear to work do not come into the house.
 
2013-02-12 12:09:58 PM

momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(


Sorry for your loss.
 
2013-02-12 12:10:05 PM

momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(


We understand. We've been there.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-12 12:10:07 PM

momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-12 12:12:38 PM

ChipNASA: momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(

We understand. We've been there.

[i.imgur.com image 720x538]


Thanks for making me laugh. :)
 
2013-02-12 12:12:51 PM
So... repeat business =  high customer satisfaction.

Right?
 
2013-02-12 12:14:27 PM

momalboe: ChipNASA: momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(

We understand. We've been there.

[i.imgur.com image 720x538]

Thanks for making me laugh. :)


I'm glad you didn't reach through the internet and beat my ass. (It was a touchy call to post that) ;-D hug

/losing a child is an unnatural thing. sorry.
 
2013-02-12 12:17:33 PM

Farce-Side: momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(

Sorry for your loss.



Indeed.

My Condolences.


/Reality sucks
 
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2013-02-12 12:18:59 PM

Twilight Farkle: Wait, are they talking about when the surgery's over, or just the surgeries under Dunn?


You can't have surgery under Dunn because Dunn is over Unger.  Surgery isd under Unger.
 
GBB [TotalFark]
2013-02-12 12:21:52 PM

momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
RIP, son.
 
2013-02-12 12:21:59 PM

ChipNASA: momalboe: ChipNASA: momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(

We understand. We've been there.

[i.imgur.com image 720x538]

Thanks for making me laugh. :)

I'm glad you didn't reach through the internet and beat my ass. (It was a touchy call to post that) ;-D hug

/losing a child is an unnatural thing. sorry.


Luckily, my sense of humor did not die with him.  This was one of his favorites (his name was Carl):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNHQZTxo78I
 
2013-02-12 12:22:21 PM
There are four things that hospitals do very well:

1) Cause you to feel pain
2) Take away your pants
3) Expose you to disease
4) Charge you money


More than twice as many people die every year in the US due to medical mistakes than die from firearms and auto accidents combined.
 
2013-02-12 12:24:00 PM
Something to consider... the statistics might be skewed by the increased octogenarian population.

/translation: old people need more repeat visits to the hospital than younger folks.
 
2013-02-12 12:26:24 PM

give me doughnuts: There are four things that hospitals do very well:

1) Cause you to feel pain
2) Take away your pants
3) Expose you to disease
4) Charge you money


More than twice as many people die every year in the US due to medical mistakes than die from firearms and auto accidents combined.


We donate them to the local homeless population and it makes us look like saints.
 
2013-02-12 12:26:36 PM
How large is the elderly population there in Retirement-land?  That's going to inflate their rates.  Also how many people are going to get a free meal (homeless) in their E.R.?  Drug seekers with back pain, finger pain, toe pain, toothache, etc?
 
2013-02-12 12:27:37 PM

ChipNASA: /losing a child is an unnatural thing. sorry.


It definitely sucks, but at least for infants, it was quite natural for 99+% of human history.  Even as recently as the early 50's, the worldwide infant mortality rate was 152 per 1000, over a 15% chance of losing your infant.
 
2013-02-12 12:29:49 PM

momalboe: ChipNASA: momalboe: ChipNASA: momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(

We understand. We've been there.

[i.imgur.com image 720x538]

Thanks for making me laugh. :)

I'm glad you didn't reach through the internet and beat my ass. (It was a touchy call to post that) ;-D hug

/losing a child is an unnatural thing. sorry.

Luckily, my sense of humor did not die with him.  This was one of his favorites (his name was Carl):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNHQZTxo78I


Sorry for your loss and thanks for sharing the video. That was great. He must have had a great sense of humr.
 
2013-02-12 12:30:27 PM

momalboe: ChipNASA: momalboe: ChipNASA: momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(

We understand. We've been there.

[i.imgur.com image 720x538]

Thanks for making me laugh. :)

I'm glad you didn't reach through the internet and beat my ass. (It was a touchy call to post that) ;-D hug

/losing a child is an unnatural thing. sorry.

Luckily, my sense of humor did not die with him.  This was one of his favorites (his name was Carl):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNHQZTxo78I


I totally have no idea what I watched but it was oddly funny and odd and funny and odd.
 
2013-02-12 12:30:28 PM
humor.

/grumble, grumble
 
2013-02-12 12:30:48 PM

12349876: ChipNASA: /losing a child is an unnatural thing. sorry.

It definitely sucks, but at least for infants, it was quite natural for 99+% of human history.  Even as recently as the early 50's, the worldwide infant mortality rate was 152 per 1000, over a 15% chance of losing your infant.


Random CSB...

In the cemetery where my grandfather is buried, there's a set of triplets born in the early 1900s, none of them made it to 1 year old. Cora, Dora and Nora. Unfortunate names, but I can't imagine losing three kids.   :(

/end CSB
 
2013-02-12 12:31:10 PM

ChipNASA: momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(

We understand. We've been there.

[i.imgur.com image 720x538]


LOL you are a bad, bad man.

Florida is full of old people. When old people get sick or injured, they are basically screwed. It's not at all surprising to me that they would need repeat hospital visits or stays.

/getting old
//ugh
 
2013-02-12 12:35:02 PM

ChipNASA: I totally have no idea what I watched but it was oddly funny and odd and funny and odd.


Agreed. Episode two is just as twisted.
 
2013-02-12 12:37:30 PM

momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(


Oh my god, I'm so sorry to hear that.
 
2013-02-12 12:38:41 PM

saturn badger: ChipNASA: I totally have no idea what I watched but it was oddly funny and odd and funny and odd.

Agreed. Episode two is just as twisted.


OMG there are MANY Llama with Hats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpjyH-LkEAg

Cruise Ship Edition....these are really odd, strange and funny.
 
2013-02-12 12:39:31 PM
MRSA and C. diff for the win!
 
2013-02-12 12:44:25 PM
My sister died in a hospital in Florida last week. Granted, it was because she did not take best care of herself, but the hospital did not cause her death. I think most people don't realize the sheer number of elderly in Florida. Also, as evidenced by the Fark tag, Florida is not only God's Waiting Room, but also Darwin's Checkout Line.
 
2013-02-12 12:47:31 PM
I wonder how this compares to the rest of the country and to other nations.
 
2013-02-12 12:53:35 PM
Sometimes there's not much you can do about repeat visits.  As in, send someone home on tube feed, because they cannot swallow without aspiration, a fact they are well aware of....they are back within a few weeks with aspiration pneumonia.  Nothing we can do about someone who is non-compliant.

OTOH, there are definitely times when we say about a possible discharge, "get that person out of here before they really get sick."  It's a fine line.
 
2013-02-12 12:54:29 PM

momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(


My sincerest condolences.  My fiancee died after a hospital stay (and  because of it) - I understand your pain.  Stay strong.
 
2013-02-12 01:15:50 PM
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Son, I am grieve....


Anyway, hospitals are indeed nasty places. Most of the people I know who have stayed in them wound up with staph infections. My dad died from one.

I'll avoid a hospital stay at all costs.
 
2013-02-12 01:22:01 PM

Amos Quito: So... repeat business =  high customer satisfaction.

Right?


They're making money, which is really all that matters.
 
2013-02-12 01:25:27 PM
My last two hospital stays were great.  Well, considering the nursing school is adjacent to the hospital helped.
 
2013-02-12 01:31:58 PM
Hospitals don't admit for trivialities anymore. If you're admitted, you probably have something going on that would kill you without treatment. Is it any wonder then that you're a) probably not going to be completely cured on the first visit, or b) treatment will carry significant risks?
 
2013-02-12 01:33:25 PM

snocone: The "real" money is in treatment, not cure.
Go USA, the most expensive medical care in the world, because you can afford it.
Profiting from human suffering and disease has never been more highly regarded, or so some would have you believe.
farkin' sheeple


Yup, cures for everything have been developed. The doctors are keeping them SECRET, otherwise they wouldn't be able to make their house payments.

And if you believe that, I've got some magic water to sell you. It's a cure! Just don't try to ask any of the people it cured, they all died.
 
2013-02-12 01:36:26 PM
My favorite experience with regards to readmissions was inpatient medicine at the VA.  We were literally a revolving door for CHF and COPD patients.  The reason being, we were able to restrict their diet on the wards, which largely controlled the CHF exacerbations, and take away their smokes, which controlled the COPD.

When they were discharged, they would resume their unhealthy habits, and thus ensure that they would come back soon.  So, if someone would care to offer a non-totalitarian solution to this problem, and yes, we did inform the patients of the role their habits played in their illnesses, the medical community would appreciate it.
 
2013-02-12 01:39:21 PM

Unda: Hospitals don't admit for trivialities anymore. If you're admitted, you probably have something going on that would kill you without treatment. Is it any wonder then that you're a) probably not going to be completely cured on the first visit, or b) treatment will carry significant risks?


This. Another thing is that patients want to leave. All day, every day, people are asking when they can leave. There's also pressure from above to get out the patients who aren't that sick. All told, 20% sounds about right. I'd have guessed ~15% at our university hospital. Higher or lower on different services.
 
2013-02-12 01:42:01 PM

The 4chan Psychiatrist: My favorite experience with regards to readmissions was inpatient medicine at the VA.  We were literally a revolving door for CHF and COPD patients.  The reason being, we were able to restrict their diet on the wards, which largely controlled the CHF exacerbations, and take away their smokes, which controlled the COPD.

When they were discharged, they would resume their unhealthy habits, and thus ensure that they would come back soon.  So, if someone would care to offer a non-totalitarian solution to this problem, and yes, we did inform the patients of the role their habits played in their illnesses, the medical community would appreciate it.


And an even bigger "this" for that post. The CHF patients might as well call ahead to the ER on holidays that center around big meals.
 
2013-02-12 01:53:14 PM

SkerriNinja: I think most people don't realize the sheer number of elderly in Florida. Also, as evidenced by the Fark tag, Florida is not only God's Waiting Room, but also Darwin's Checkout Line.


There's also been a surprising increase in HIV cases among older folks and the elderly in Florida. I guess when you're retired and need something to do besides golf... and you don't have to prevent pregnancy anymore...

/ew.
 
2013-02-12 01:53:43 PM
www.thegatewaypundit.com

We only know about these hospital readmission rates due to Medicare's Hospital Readmissions Reduction Program, which is part of Obamacare. Thanks, Obama!


In figures released last week, the Congressional Budget Office said it had erased hundreds of billions of dollars in projected spending on Medicare and Medicaid. The budget office now projects that spending on those two programs in 2020 will be about $200 billion, or 15 percent, less than it projected three years ago. New data also show overall health care spending growth continuing at the lowest rate in decades for a fourth consecutive year.  -- The Damn' Libtard New York Times
 
2013-02-12 01:54:45 PM
Old people and STDS is my guess.
 
2013-02-12 01:58:39 PM

momalboe: ChipNASA: momalboe: ChipNASA: momalboe: Since my son just died after spending 33 days in the ICU, I am not getting a kick out of these replies. :(

We understand. We've been there.

[i.imgur.com image 720x538]

Thanks for making me laugh. :)

I'm glad you didn't reach through the internet and beat my ass. (It was a touchy call to post that) ;-D hug

/losing a child is an unnatural thing. sorry.

Luckily, my sense of humor did not die with him.  This was one of his favorites (his name was Carl):  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNHQZTxo78I


I just clicked that. I have no idea why I have never seen awesomeness before. So major thanks to your kid for enlightening me.
 
2013-02-12 01:59:36 PM

The 4chan Psychiatrist: My favorite experience with regards to readmissions was inpatient medicine at the VA.  We were literally a revolving door for CHF and COPD patients.  The reason being, we were able to restrict their diet on the wards, which largely controlled the CHF exacerbations, and take away their smokes, which controlled the COPD.

When they were discharged, they would resume their unhealthy habits, and thus ensure that they would come back soon.  So, if someone would care to offer a non-totalitarian solution to this problem, and yes, we did inform the patients of the role their habits played in their illnesses, the medical community would appreciate it.


require more than 3 hours of nutritional classes for all doctors and all medical fields would be a start.  offer some nutritional information to patients as well. Neither of these will work though because nutrition doesn't pay a doctor, medicine does.  Even when that medicine doesn't work, they still get paid.

why do patients keep going back to smoking/over eating?  it's called a habit.  get rid of the trigger and the habit will change.

too many non-informed and un-intersted people on both medical side and general public.
 
2013-02-12 02:00:01 PM

The 4chan Psychiatrist: My favorite experience with regards to readmissions was inpatient medicine at the VA.  We were literally a revolving door for CHF and COPD patients.  The reason being, we were able to restrict their diet on the wards, which largely controlled the CHF exacerbations, and take away their smokes, which controlled the COPD.

When they were discharged, they would resume their unhealthy habits, and thus ensure that they would come back soon.  So, if someone would care to offer a non-totalitarian solution to this problem, and yes, we did inform the patients of the role their habits played in their illnesses, the medical community would appreciate it.


DNRTT, but I'm guessing a surprising number of readmissions are related to things like this as well as not taking their meds properly.  I know of a few hospitals that are working with local pharmacies to help ensure the patient understands their regimen by turning that over to the local pharmacist.  They actually pay the pharmacist to come in, explain the meds, and give them their first fill.  That way they've got a better chance of that patient sticking to it and not coming back.  Financially, this actually costs less than the readmissions, plus patient safety is increased as they're actually doing what they're supposed to.

Doesn't help unhealthy eating habits, though.
 
2013-02-12 02:01:41 PM

ChipNASA: You can't have Hospice without Hospital.....


wasn't Hospice the name of the long, lost Spice Girl?
 
2013-02-12 02:02:20 PM

DrRatchet: [www.thegatewaypundit.com image 250x358]

We only know about these hospital readmission rates due to Medicare's Hospital Readmissions Reduction Program, which is part of Obamacare. Thanks, Obama!


In figures released last week, the Congressional Budget Office said it had erased hundreds of billions of dollars in projected spending on Medicare and Medicaid. The budget office now projects that spending on those two programs in 2020 will be about $200 billion, or 15 percent, less than it projected three years ago. New data also show overall health care spending growth continuing at the lowest rate in decades for a fourth consecutive year.  -- The Damn' Libtard New York Times


Seriously.... I wish there was a way to ration healthcare without taking it away from those who actually need it. If someone shows up at the ER with a cold or a stubbed toe, the staff should be allowed to punch them. I bet that would cut down on BS visits
 
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