Do you have adblock enabled?
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(CNN)   Pope isn't resigning because of health issues, but he'll still guilt you into feeling like you caused his resignation   (cnn.com) divider line 36
    More: Followup, Federico Lombardi, Pope Benedict XVI, pope  
•       •       •

7687 clicks; posted to Main » on 12 Feb 2013 at 10:21 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



Voting Results (Smartest)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Archived thread
2013-02-12 10:31:19 AM  
11 votes:

Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: Have some respect, people. Wouldn't you want to resign when you feel like you can't work anymore?


He is a scumbag who threatened excommunication for anyone who assisted the investigation of child rape. He is beyond respect, as is the institution he used to lead.
2013-02-12 10:24:33 AM  
6 votes:
The pope said Monday he is resigning "because of advanced age."That's right. We are living in a too advanced age for the pope.
2013-02-12 10:23:05 AM  
5 votes:
Something big is about to break in the scandal, IMO.
2013-02-12 10:36:16 AM  
4 votes:
Holy shiat!  They finally went after an infallible, revered leader of an all-controlling religion for decades of covering up child rape?  They'll get me next, I better resign.

--what the Pope thought when he heard about Joe Paterno
2013-02-12 10:24:53 AM  
4 votes:
I thought that the whole "health issues" thing was weird since they paraded the last pope around asleep and drooling on himself in his later days.
2013-02-12 12:07:15 PM  
3 votes:
I'm surprised at media focus on his physical health without considering he might have been diagnosed with Alzheimer's or similar. There's really no reason to resign due to physical health. I don't believe for one minute that he suddenly feels humbled or guilty for protecting the church or child rapists for 40 years.

Cheney would repent for Iraq, first.
2013-02-12 11:55:25 AM  
3 votes:

advex101: He's 85 years old.  Take a look at the daily schedule this guy has.  I respect him for having enough respect for the office to call it quits when he can't give it 100% anymore.  Many previous Popes should have done this, but they didn't.  As far as any hidden agenda or secret conspiracy goes, if one comes out I'll be disappointed.  Until then, the old dude gets benefit of the doubt.


Right. Because the man who is KNOWN to have helped cover up child rape and who knowingly and willfully spread the deadly lie in Africa that condoms cause or contribute to AIDS deserves the benefit of the doubt.

It's people like you who provide the soil for these evil old weeds to thrive in.
2013-02-12 10:33:03 AM  
3 votes:
He's saying he's resigning because he's spiritually not strong enough to lead.  Which really does make one wonder what's coming down the pike that we don't know about yet.
2013-02-12 10:32:38 AM  
3 votes:

bartink: Something big is about to break in the scandal, IMO.


Yeah the health thing has been bullshiat.  For 600 years all the popes have stuck around until they kicked the bucket, I assumed the Vatican had a papal babysitter who kept the Pope busy while some Cardinals ran the place.  Ratzinger himself was supposedly doing a lot of the grunt work when John Paul was checking out IIRC.

It's either a scandal is coming or Ratzinger had some honest moment of introspection, realized he'd done a terrible job with the child rape coverup, and this is his way of falling on his sword.
2013-02-12 11:58:05 AM  
2 votes:
He'll be the Mahdl-T, the savior who'll drive us to paradise. He'll also be the Dukelet, Pall Agamemnides, son of Duke Lotto of House Pancakes, who is known as Assol, Pall Mauve-bib, the Kumkwat Haagendasz.
2013-02-12 10:41:30 AM  
2 votes:
An example several Supreme Court justices should follow. The quitting because you're old part, not the molestation.
2013-02-12 10:34:40 AM  
2 votes:

1derful: I thought that the whole "health issues" thing was weird since they paraded the last pope around asleep and drooling on himself in his later days.


And perhaps for that very reason John Paul II should have resigned several years before his death. Just because the precedent is to be pope until death, doesn't mean it should be.

Maybe there's a scandal worse than the crap already floating around the church and Vatican that can force a pope to resign, but I don't find it hard to believe that Ratzinger has decided that he is too infirm to carry out his duties. If that's the truth of it, then good on him for setting a new precedent. That'll be about the only good thing he's done as pope.
2013-02-12 10:33:54 AM  
2 votes:

Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: Have some respect, people. Wouldn't you want to resign when you feel like you can't work anymore?


Ha!  Yeah, watch me get all respectful to this old pederast.
2013-02-12 10:31:55 AM  
2 votes:

Kibbler: sure haven't: Did people really misconstrue the original release that said it was due to his diminishing strength? They never did say he was OMGSICK, just that he's... old. He's old and tired and can't be the Pope effectively enough.

Which is why all the other popes for the last 600 years stuck it out until they died.

Sorry.  Not buying it.


If in fact is he stepping down because he feels he can't do the job properly anymore, I give him major respect. It takes a decent man to actually give up power for the greater good.

In reality, I'm with the many who think he's probably getting out before something bad happens.
2013-02-12 10:31:21 AM  
2 votes:
How the hell can you be too old for a job where your entire actual duties consist of sitting and waving?

It's not like he even has to say mass anymore.  He just throws happy blessing waves at the people who are actually doing all of the work and sometimes gets wheeled out to wheeze some hollow pre-written statements in Latin.

Some shiat is going to hit the fan soon, for sure.
2013-02-12 10:25:22 AM  
2 votes:

sure haven't: Did people really misconstrue the original release that said it was due to his diminishing strength? They never did say he was OMGSICK, just that he's... old. He's old and tired and can't be the Pope effectively enough.


Which is why all the other popes for the last 600 years stuck it out until they died.

Sorry.  Not buying it.
2013-02-12 10:24:37 AM  
2 votes:
He's not MY pope.   I didn't vote for him
2013-02-12 10:09:11 AM  
2 votes:
Guilt?

If I could believe that in any small way I contributed to his resignation, I'd buy myself a steak tonight and eat it without salt because I'd be all the awesomesauce that steak could handle.
2013-02-12 04:28:40 PM  
1 votes:

sure haven't: Did people really misconstrue the original release that said it was due to his diminishing strength? They never did say he was OMGSICK, just that he's... old. He's old and tired and can't be the Pope effectively enough.


The last Pope had farking Parkinson's and still kept at it. Every pope in the last 600 years kept at it until they died. No, there's something else we're not being told.
2013-02-12 03:32:17 PM  
1 votes:

gingerjet: Kibbler: sure haven't: Did people really misconstrue the original release that said it was due to his diminishing strength? They never did say he was OMGSICK, just that he's... old. He's old and tired and can't be the Pope effectively enough.

Which is why all the other popes for the last 600 years stuck it out until they died.

Sorry.  Not buying it.

Not buying it either.  I like to think its all the guilt for protecting pedophiles for all those years finally weighed down on him.  But I'm not optimistic on that either.


That's actually my theory now--he's honestly starting to realize it was immoral and is trying to make it easier for him to be prosecuted.

Probably not what happened, but it's a nice thought.
2013-02-12 02:16:23 PM  
1 votes:

UDel_Kitty: 1derful: I thought that the whole "health issues" thing was weird since they paraded the last pope around asleep and drooling on himself in his later days.

And perhaps for that very reason John Paul II should have resigned several years before his death. Just because the precedent is to be pope until death, doesn't mean it should be.

Maybe there's a scandal worse than the crap already floating around the church and Vatican that can force a pope to resign, but I don't find it hard to believe that Ratzinger has decided that he is too infirm to carry out his duties. If that's the truth of it, then good on him for setting a new precedent. That'll be about the only good thing he's done as pope.


***
From a decent article, although not the one I was thinking of (that JPII made it a point to emphasize understanding and love of the old and sick by being so public in his condition in his final years, which... was a pretty good point):

"One thing is clear: Benedict has made a conscious choice not to be John Paul II, who turned his own wrenching, illness-filled last days into something like a parable. It could be hard to watch John Paul wave at a crowd with a hand that trembled, and he knew it, and sought consciously to use that time to emphasize his community with anyone who hurt, and with his God. Say what one will about John Paul II, but one couldn't honestly read his biography without being moved-he worked in a limestone quarry during the German occupation of Poland, studying at a secret seminary-and one can't quite blame Benedict for not matching that, or for lacking John Paul's Popemobile charisma or the manner that made his faith seem so manifest. But then it was John Paul II's conservatism, particularly in the selection of cardinals, that assured Ratzinger's succession. And which way is really better? Should pain-not only of the ill, but of the poor-simply be borne? One can argue that Benedict is far more honest-and by providing a valuable example of his own about knowing when one is done, perhaps he is doing the Church a six-century-overdue favor. But it is inescapable that Joseph Ratzinger has not lived, and will not die, as Karol Wojtyla did."

Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/02/benedict-in-r e signing-is-no-john-paul.html#ixzz2KiIyv1py
It's one thing if your mind is gone.   It's entirely another if your body is just frail.  JPII had it more together at the end (maybe not the last year) than Ratzinger ever did.  The latter was a transitional pope for sure.

Hell, for all I disagreed with JPII, you can't deny that he was hardcore from the get-go.

/Speaking of Polish Catholics, Happy Pączki Day!
2013-02-12 01:11:39 PM  
1 votes:

ThurmanMerman: He's saying he's resigning because he's spiritually not strong enough to lead.  Which really does make one wonder what's coming down the pike that we don't know about yet.



Maybe he's going to pull a Mother Theresa and we'll find out from his diary after he dies that he's given up believing in god and was just commiting heinous acts in god's name for years because he doesn't know how to do anything but continue to perpetuate the sham.

But I'd place my money on more scandal details coming out that the Vatican is furiously suppressing behind the scenes by whatever means necessary. Either more damning information about his involvement in the child rape scandals or the Vatican money laundering/financial corruption scandals.
2013-02-12 01:10:37 PM  
1 votes:
I'm from a Catholic family and many of my coworkers are Catholic.  This was (obviously) big news but I don't think one person expressed any modicum of sadness that this guy is quitting.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.  Oh, and dibs on the red Prada slippers.
2013-02-12 12:55:21 PM  
1 votes:
ohhhh - catholic guilt - reminded me i need to call my mother

fwiw - i think, if there is any sort of scandal, it will end up being a fiscal problem. As others point out, the church has weathered years of sex scandal. It's much more difficult to either 1) go broke; 2) loose your tax exempt status and go broke; 3) see more cases to be settled and go broke. There are fewer and fewer properties and "paying customers" and a round of new settlements might break the system

at 86, i doubt he is concerned about this, if true - who wants to arrest and jail the pope?

as a catholic who misses the church i remember (like the GOP remembers the Reagan years that never existed) its disappointing he resigned. Never liked him but quitting is quitting - saying you are "too tired" discredits much of the prayer of roman catholics world-wide ("good lord, help me get through this for i am weak and weary")
2013-02-12 12:55:19 PM  
1 votes:
Documentation of Ratzinger's complicity in the fight to help pedo priests evade the law is coming to light.

Let's hope Mahoney and Ratzinger are both indicted soon. RICO charges would be appropriate.

1)
"...In [Los Angeles] archdiocese documents released under a court order earlier this month, [bishop] Mahony is revealed to have taken actions deliberately contrived to avoid legal prosecution of priests who had sexually abused -- and even raped -- children..."

2)
"...in a 2003 letter to Ratzinger, Mahony says of Father Lynn R. Caffoe that between the priest and one boy, there were 100 "instances of masturbatory and copulative acts," according to an account in the Los Angeles Daily News.
But Mahony never reported Caffoe's alleged crimes to police, and Ratzinger apparently never instructed him to..."


Link
2013-02-12 12:47:38 PM  
1 votes:

Publikwerks: NutWrench: immrlizard: He's not MY pope.   I didn't vote for him

You don't vote for Popes!

How do you know?  immrlizard could be a Cardinal.


Listen, strange Cardinals gatherin' in a room distributin' scepters is no basis for a system of religion. Supreme pontifical power derives from a mandate from the heavens
2013-02-12 12:16:31 PM  
1 votes:

Slaves2Darkness: DROxINxTHExWIND: What could come out that's bigger than touching little boys? We all knew they were doing that when he BECAME Pope. So, what do you all think the scandal will be?

That the Pope himself buggered little boys.


Does not matter.
Covering it up, protecting the guilty, perpetuating the culture of pedantry within The Church, costing The Church revenue from contributors withholding money, for a short list, will do just as well.
The Catholics have let their own Devil in the door and become Him.
With a mass media world, they reinvent or die.
2013-02-12 11:39:49 AM  
1 votes:
He's a-just too pooped to Pope, the man is 86 is this really so strange?

In-the-job-for-life Monarchies have rarely done well once modern medicine started expanding Life-span without expanding the quality of life commesurately
2013-02-12 11:19:54 AM  
1 votes:
He's 85 years old.  Take a look at the daily schedule this guy has.  I respect him for having enough respect for the office to call it quits when he can't give it 100% anymore.  Many previous Popes should have done this, but they didn't.  As far as any hidden agenda or secret conspiracy goes, if one comes out I'll be disappointed.  Until then, the old dude gets benefit of the doubt.
2013-02-12 10:50:05 AM  
1 votes:

markfara: DubtodaIll: The credit card payments in the state of the Vatican city are again working, and so the pilgrims as well as the tourists who visit the church of St. Peter's every day can now use the ordinary payment service, including paying for the Vatican museums," Lombardi said.

This is important!!

They don't give sales receipts at the Vatican Gift Shop, either, I've heard tell.


Really? That is interesting.  You know, if I were to set up the perfect fleecing scam that I would have no fear of prosecution or retribution it would have to include my own sovereign territory where I controlled all the policing.  Also creating a societal belief that I couldn't even do anything wrong even if I tried would be a real sweet caveat too.  And hey, if I could somehow create another societal belief that just GIVING me money was a good thing to do without actually having to return any services aside from letting people in to my nice buildings and talking to them for an hour a week EN MASSE, well that's a pretty sweet deal.  I could probably afford a pretty swanky right and sweet threads too and afford all kinky sexual gratification I wanted without anyone saying anything bad about me.

HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!
2013-02-12 10:42:42 AM  
1 votes:
FTA:    He appointed 67 of the 117 cardinals that -- as of Monday -- are set to make the decision.

Tricky devil.  Now that he controls the college, he's doesn't have to be involved with the day-to-day crap.
2013-02-12 10:42:06 AM  
1 votes:
What could come out that's bigger than touching little boys? We all knew they were doing that when he BECAME Pope. So, what do you all think the scandal will be?
2013-02-12 10:38:06 AM  
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: It's either a scandal is coming or Ratzinger had some honest moment of introspection


I think it is both, their is a scandal coming and he realizes he can do nothing to prevent the cover up and make those responsible be accountable, so he is quitting.
2013-02-12 10:34:15 AM  
1 votes:

bartink: Something big is about to break in the scandal, IMO.


Have to agree with this
2013-02-12 10:31:28 AM  
1 votes:

Kibbler: sure haven't: Did people really misconstrue the original release that said it was due to his diminishing strength? They never did say he was OMGSICK, just that he's... old. He's old and tired and can't be the Pope effectively enough.

Which is why all the other popes for the last 600 years stuck it out until they died.

Sorry.  Not buying it.


Not buying it either.  I like to think its all the guilt for protecting pedophiles for all those years finally weighed down on him.  But I'm not optimistic on that either.
2013-02-12 10:30:58 AM  
1 votes:
why should i feel guilt for a guy quitting god?
 
Displayed 36 of 36 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
Advertisement
On Twitter






In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report