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(ESPN)   One of the most explosive and versatile players in the NFL may suddenly be on the trading block. Bonus: No legal problems and is a known hard worker. Where should he go?   (espn.go.com) divider line 87
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2013-02-12 10:17:16 AM  
Percy threatening to hold out again? What a headache.
 
2013-02-12 10:18:28 AM  
Nola bound?....


Please?
 
2013-02-12 10:21:45 AM  
Explosive and versatile players don't show up on the market for a 2nd rounder unless they do things like throw weights at their coaches.
 
2013-02-12 10:22:36 AM  
Should trade him to the Jets for draft picks.

Just anywhere in the AFC, out of harm's way.

I don't believe he was ever hurt, he just doesn't get along with Frasier.
 
2013-02-12 10:23:10 AM  
He needs a trade like he needs a hole in the...

HeathenHealer: Percy threatening to hold out again? What a headache.


...dammit.
 
2013-02-12 10:26:35 AM  
Harvin could go to San Fran, Cleveland, Tampa, Carolina, St. Louis, Indy, or Miami.

Indy would be the best place for him.
 
2013-02-12 10:29:53 AM  
We'll take him in Cincinnati to go along with AJ Green.
 
2013-02-12 10:31:12 AM  
the Titans could use some help
 
2013-02-12 10:37:02 AM  
Definitely should go to Buffalo, it'd be one of the few times moving to Buffalo actually gives you BETTER weather.
 
2013-02-12 10:41:09 AM  
Good Lord, Harvin had 52 rushing attempts in '11?

Was Minny running a Wildcat that year? Or do they just line him up at tailback sometimes? That seems like a comically high number of reverses.
 
2013-02-12 10:42:07 AM  
I'll take him on the Redskins.  I haven't looked into how his contract fits, but we could certainly use a receiver/return specialist of his skills.

I don't like how he holds-out and is regarded as a headcase...but he can't be worse than fat-Albert, and maybe he will respond well the RGIII's much talked-about leadership skills.

I feel like this could be the year the Skins finally should ahve some decent expectations.  If we can add a top notch WR and DB, continue to add depth on the O-line (and maybe find a good R-tackle), and use late draft picks to add depth at LB and DL, I see no reason why we can't make the playoffs again.  Maybe even with a better overall record, up on 11-5/12-4 territory.

/A guy can dream right?
 
2013-02-12 10:43:02 AM  
im just glad it wasnt Randall Cobb.  Yeah, Percy could go to 20 teams and be needed.
 
2013-02-12 10:46:42 AM  

jayhawk88: Good Lord, Harvin had 52 rushing attempts in '11?

Was Minny running a Wildcat that year? Or do they just line him up at tailback sometimes? That seems like a comically high number of reverses.


Pretty good mix of reverses, (mostly) tailback lineups, and I think a few direct snaps.
 
2013-02-12 10:47:31 AM  
whatrhymeswithrobert ; Nola bound?....

Goodness gracious, what a thought. Just thinking about Harvin with Brees throwing to him is enough to give the rest of the NFC South nightmares.
 
2013-02-12 10:49:18 AM  
So they're now writing articles to announce the selection of the next "Athlete ESPN Will Not Shut Up About"?
 
2013-02-12 10:52:02 AM  

lordjupiter: So they're now writing articles to announce the selection of the next "Athlete ESPN Will Not Shut Up About"?


This is the silly month before Free Agency actually happens.  Prepare for it or else your head will asplode.

The pack can clear 7 mil in cap if they cut Finley... c'moooonnnnnnn
 
2013-02-12 10:55:55 AM  
Want to stop him?  Hide the Excedrin.
 
2013-02-12 10:58:00 AM  

varmitydog: whatrhymeswithrobert ; Nola bound?....

Goodness gracious, what a thought. Just thinking about Harvin with Brees throwing to him is enough to give the rest of the NFC South nightmares.


Yeah I know, right?!  We need to outscore what our defense gives up.

Harvin is a dream that the Saints offense really doesn't need.  I want Ed Reed and some healthy hole-fillers/pass-rushers.


/hole-fillers...
//giggidy
 
2013-02-12 11:02:02 AM  

jayhawk88: Good Lord, Harvin had 52 rushing attempts in '11?

Was Minny running a Wildcat that year? Or do they just line him up at tailback sometimes? That seems like a comically high number of reverses.


I think there were a lot of quick-outs/screens that were technically laterals.
 
2013-02-12 11:03:21 AM  
As much as Harvin is a great weapon, i'd gladly get rid of him and have a legitimate, big target receiver for Ponder. Harvin's not going to "go up" and get many balls. Lots of nice WR's should be available in free agency and Jarius Wright showed some potential as a slot guy last season.
 
2013-02-12 11:04:07 AM  

balfourk: Harvin could go to San Fran, Cleveland, Tampa, Carolina, St. Louis, Indy, or Miami.

Indy would be the best place for him.


Without knowing cap space, I'm thinking Pats, San Fran, or NOLA.
 
2013-02-12 11:06:03 AM  
SF would be happy with another player that can line up all over the field and has ~14 draft picks to make a nice trade package
 
2013-02-12 11:09:35 AM  

SuperChuck: SF would be happy with another player that can line up all over the field and has ~14 draft picks to make a nice trade package


That's a trade that makes a lot of sense. Harvin as a deep threat on that team makes them the unquestioned NFC favorite next year, and SF can afford to overpay for him in picks.
 
2013-02-12 11:13:32 AM  
Listen up. Harvin isnt going anywhere. Sure he will hold out and there will be some back and forth but he will stay in Minnesota. Book it done.
 
2013-02-12 11:15:24 AM  
Actually would be a great fit with the Texans.  They need a speed receiver and return man, one of their top priorities per their owner.
 
2013-02-12 11:18:22 AM  

revman64: return man


was keyshawn martin bad?  granted he's no Harvin when it comes to receiving, but he looked good returning.
 
2013-02-12 11:21:38 AM  
The Texans should pick him up so that Schuab can underthrow him as well as Andre Johnson.
 
2013-02-12 11:27:24 AM  
Bears could use him as a long threat to take pressure off Marshall.
 
2013-02-12 11:27:53 AM  

jayhawk88: SuperChuck: SF would be happy with another player that can line up all over the field and has ~14 draft picks to make a nice trade package

That's a trade that makes a lot of sense. Harvin as a deep threat on that team makes them the unquestioned NFC favorite next year, and SF can afford to overpay for him in picks.


The only downside is he's only got 1 year left and they probably aren't going to be able to pay him. He's a big upgrade over Ted Ginn and Kyle Williams but it's only going to be for a year.
 
2013-02-12 11:29:13 AM  

thecpt: revman64: return man

was keyshawn martin bad?  granted he's no Harvin when it comes to receiving, but he looked good returning.


Martin did okay but Manning had better returns in the one game they used him (until he got caught from behind).  I'd really like to see him in the slot taking the pressure off Andre Johnson ala Welker's role with NE.  Welker may be available too in free agency but Harvin could help us in more ways for more years.
 
2013-02-12 11:34:40 AM  

revman64: thecpt: revman64: return man

was keyshawn martin bad?  granted he's no Harvin when it comes to receiving, but he looked good returning.

Martin did okay but Manning had better returns in the one game they used him (until he got caught from behind).  I'd really like to see him in the slot taking the pressure off Andre Johnson ala Welker's role with NE.  Welker may be available too in free agency but Harvin could help us in more ways for more years.


Mmmm, Harvin and Welker to the Texans.  That could almost make me forgive that ass-ugly logo.
 
2013-02-12 11:37:51 AM  
*Patiently waiting for us to not get near enough value for him*

/he's worth a mid 2nd-rounder off of talent alone
//he's worth a couple of thirds because he's whiney
///we'll get a 4th rounder and someone to compete with Aromashadododoouou as the 3rd worst receiver on the worst passing offense in the league
////and I will be GREATLY displeased
 
2013-02-12 11:40:29 AM  

jayhawk88: SuperChuck: SF would be happy with another player that can line up all over the field and has ~14 draft picks to make a nice trade package

That's a trade that makes a lot of sense. Harvin as a deep threat on that team makes them the unquestioned NFC favorite next year, and SF can afford to overpay for him in picks.


Harvin does not line up deep and beat coverage.

I don;t know why, he just DOESN'T.

He's the latteral guy. He can out run you sideline to sideline, not beat you running endzone to endzone from a deadsnap. One jam and his speed to be a corner running a post pattern is negated.

Not knocking him, it just isn't his game.
 
2013-02-12 11:42:18 AM  

SuperChuck: jayhawk88: SuperChuck: SF would be happy with another player that can line up all over the field and has ~14 draft picks to make a nice trade package

That's a trade that makes a lot of sense. Harvin as a deep threat on that team makes them the unquestioned NFC favorite next year, and SF can afford to overpay for him in picks.

The only downside is he's only got 1 year left and they probably aren't going to be able to pay him. He's a big upgrade over Ted Ginn and Kyle Williams but it's only going to be for a year.


Yeah but if the price is going to be, say, a third, 4th and 5th pick, or maybe a 2nd and 4th rounder, it's totally worth the risk to take another shot at the SuperBowl next year.
 
2013-02-12 11:46:15 AM  

jayhawk88: SuperChuck: jayhawk88: SuperChuck: SF would be happy with another player that can line up all over the field and has ~14 draft picks to make a nice trade package

That's a trade that makes a lot of sense. Harvin as a deep threat on that team makes them the unquestioned NFC favorite next year, and SF can afford to overpay for him in picks.

The only downside is he's only got 1 year left and they probably aren't going to be able to pay him. He's a big upgrade over Ted Ginn and Kyle Williams but it's only going to be for a year.

Yeah but if the price is going to be, say, a third, 4th and 5th pick, or maybe a 2nd and 4th rounder, it's totally worth the risk to take another shot at the SuperBowl next year.


Agree completely. The 49ers are missing two things from their passing game: A quick guy and a fast deep threat. Harvin can cover at least the first of those.

Jim from Saint Paul: He's the latteral guy. He can out run you sideline to sideline, not beat you running endzone to endzone from a deadsnap. One jam and his speed to be a corner running a post pattern is negated.


Line him up in the slot and there's no jam. Maybe he hasn't been doing that at Minnesota because Ponder wouldn't be able to hit him on the deep route anyway.
 
2013-02-12 11:46:29 AM  

Trivia Jockey: Bears could use him as a long threat to take pressure off Marshall.


Somewhat related - the Bears let Johnny Knox go today as it's clear he'll never play again (and thus can't be the speed compliment to Marshall), but he's now owed his pension and medical thanks to them carrying him this year for his qualifying 3rd season.
 
2013-02-12 11:50:49 AM  

SuperChuck: jayhawk88: SuperChuck: jayhawk88: SuperChuck: SF would be happy with another player that can line up all over the field and has ~14 draft picks to make a nice trade package

That's a trade that makes a lot of sense. Harvin as a deep threat on that team makes them the unquestioned NFC favorite next year, and SF can afford to overpay for him in picks.

The only downside is he's only got 1 year left and they probably aren't going to be able to pay him. He's a big upgrade over Ted Ginn and Kyle Williams but it's only going to be for a year.

Yeah but if the price is going to be, say, a third, 4th and 5th pick, or maybe a 2nd and 4th rounder, it's totally worth the risk to take another shot at the SuperBowl next year.

Agree completely. The 49ers are missing two things from their passing game: A quick guy and a fast deep threat. Harvin can cover at least the first of those.

Jim from Saint Paul: He's the latteral guy. He can out run you sideline to sideline, not beat you running endzone to endzone from a deadsnap. One jam and his speed to be a corner running a post pattern is negated.

Line him up in the slot and there's no jam. Maybe he hasn't been doing that at Minnesota because Ponder wouldn't be able to hit him on the deep route anyway.


Again, even when Favre was here, Percy was never open deep.

Ever.

He was almost always open from the slot because he was doing a crossing route and the nickleback/linebacker had no prayer of keeping up with him.
 
2013-02-12 11:50:57 AM  

thecpt: lordjupiter: So they're now writing articles to announce the selection of the next "Athlete ESPN Will Not Shut Up About"?

This is the silly month before Free Agency actually happens.  Prepare for it or else your head will asplode.

The pack can clear 7 mil in cap if they cut Finley... c'moooonnnnnnn


What conceivable reason do they have NOT to do that?  Cut him and restructure to bring him back or just let him go.  I don't dislike him like many fans do (Gee, a loudmouthed black man doesn't go over well in WI?  To the Romerocopter), but he has never lived up to his ceiling and we could use the cap space for 28 more linemen.
 
2013-02-12 11:54:28 AM  

varmitydog: whatrhymeswithrobert ; Nola bound?....

Goodness gracious, what a thought. Just thinking about Harvin with Brees throwing to him is enough to give the rest of the NFC South nightmares.


Druther we spent some money on defense
 
2013-02-12 11:57:46 AM  
doesnt harvin want to get paid, like 30m guaranteed, I dont know if you want that kind of investment in a guy who has missed 15% of his games in his career, never had a 1000 yard receiving season.
 
2013-02-12 11:58:39 AM  

Tiberius Gracchus: Trivia Jockey: Bears could use him as a long threat to take pressure off Marshall.

Somewhat related - the Bears let Johnny Knox go today as it's clear he'll never play again (and thus can't be the speed compliment to Marshall), but he's now owed his pension and medical thanks to them carrying him this year for his qualifying 3rd season.


Oh man, that hit he took was the single worst injury I think I've ever seen in the NFL.  It still makes me cringe just thinking about it.  I'm glad he gets his pension and medical, dude deserves some help since he is probably semi-crippled for life as a result of that play.

/Can't even imagine what it feels like getting bent backwards like that. Ugh.
 
2013-02-12 12:02:31 PM  

roc6783: we could use the cap space for 28 more linemen.


so like a darwin approach to see who works?  Just throw them out and see if they succeed?  If Rodgers gets sacked, no biggee.  Happens like 5 or 6 times a game anyways.

Yeah I don't think Finley is a bad player at all.  He had a pretty good season and I saw him throw a lot of quality blocks, but he was clearly not good enough to earn 7mil next year.  Maybe McCarthy said he wanted to keep Finley because in all likeliness we are losing Jennings.

Interesting thing I saw from the wackiness FA rumor mill, Packers might pick up Steven Jackson.
 
2013-02-12 12:20:55 PM  

thecpt: roc6783: we could use the cap space for 28 more linemen.

so like a darwin approach to see who works?  Just throw them out and see if they succeed?  If Rodgers gets sacked, no biggee.  Happens like 5 or 6 times a game anyways.

Yeah I don't think Finley is a bad player at all.  He had a pretty good season and I saw him throw a lot of quality blocks, but he was clearly not good enough to earn 7mil next year.  Maybe McCarthy said he wanted to keep Finley because in all likeliness we are losing Jennings.

Interesting thing I saw from the wackiness FA rumor mill, Packers might pick up Steven Jackson.


da fuq?

Finley can't catch and spends more time dancing after a catch than blocking. He seems like a bigger decoy than anything. If we keep him, meh...if we lose him, meh...
 
2013-02-12 12:24:12 PM  

deanis: Finley can't catch and spends more time dancing after a catch than blocking. He seems like a bigger decoy than anything. If we keep him, meh...if we lose him, meh...


did you watch this season?  Last season I would have mirrored exactly what you said.  This season he earned some respect back.
 
2013-02-12 12:26:51 PM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: Oh man, that hit he took was the single worst injury I think I've ever seen in the NFL.  It still makes me cringe just thinking about it.  I'm glad he gets his pension and medical, dude deserves some help since he is probably semi-crippled for life as a result of that play.


It was right there with the Wendell Davis Double Knee Explosion on the all-time nastiest Bears injuries list.
 
2013-02-12 12:33:04 PM  

Earthen: I don't believe he was ever hurt, he just doesn't get along with Frasier.


He was definately hurt.  It happened during the Seahawks game, I was shocked to see him return.  It was clear he was no where near 50% after the injury.  I think the Vikings coaches even knew it, but it looked like he refused to come out.  That kid's got a ton of heart, but no trust in his coaches.
 
2013-02-12 12:39:59 PM  

Tickle Mittens: Earthen: I don't believe he was ever hurt, he just doesn't get along with Frasier.

He was definately hurt.  It happened during the Seahawks game, I was shocked to see him return.  It was clear he was no where near 50% after the injury.  I think the Vikings coaches even knew it, but it looked like he refused to come out.  That kid's got a ton of heart, but no trust in his coaches payday.


I am not saying that he and Frazier don;t have differences.

Do not be fooled into thinking his attitude problems don't stem from the money.

He is in the year where the Vikings will generally talk with players about restructuring their contracts (when there is 1 year left). Last year he was in year 3 of 5 of his rookie contract. No way was Spielman and Wilf gonna restructure a team friendly contract.
 
2013-02-12 12:40:50 PM  

thecpt: deanis: Finley can't catch and spends more time dancing after a catch than blocking. He seems like a bigger decoy than anything. If we keep him, meh...if we lose him, meh...

did you watch this season?  Last season I would have mirrored exactly what you said.  This season he earned some respect back.


I am just so dissapointed in his production. He could be a Antonio Gates style TE for christ sakes! He also needs to stop being dramatic via social media. The Packers have done a great job of keeping the team clear of jack offs, I hope they reign him in a little if they keep him.
 
2013-02-12 12:41:57 PM  
Harvin's had a ton of issues with all of his coaches going to back to his high school days.  His whineyness and inability to stay healthy are huge red flags, but his talent is undeniable.  I feel like this is going to end up with him going to the Patriots for a conditional 4th rounder, and he's going to have 2,500 receiving yards and 1,200 rushing yards in that offense.  That's how things just work out for New England.

Another good option is Cincinnatii, because they don't care about character issues, and trading a 1st rounder for Harvin would eliminate the need for a scouting department, which is all Mike Brown really wants, anyway.

There are very few teams in the NFL that don't need a healthy Harvin.  At the moment I'm struggling to come up with any.  Perhaps the Saints, but even then he's a huge upgrade over both Sproles and Thomas, even though those guys are productive.
 
2013-02-12 12:46:20 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: There are very few teams in the NFL that don't need a healthy Harvin.


If Boldin stays with the Ravens, would Harvin would be an upgrade over Jacoby Jones/Dennis Pitta as the 3rd receiving option? Arguably, but it'd be like owning 3 fancy shoes - you're not going to be able to use them all together.

// well, the 4th option - after Ray Rice, Boldin, Torrey Smith and Jones/Pitta
 
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