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2013-02-12 10:02:57 AM  
Venom wasn't an issue in Spider-Man 3, Eric Forman playing Venom was the issue. He's a great villain (or anti-hero depending on what you've seen), but if the actor who portrays him has only acted in rom-coms/played the dweeb on TV, it's gonna draw the audience out of it. I'm not saying it can't be done, but the person needs to be fully committed (like Ledger playing Joker).

And Topher is just not a convincing villain (see also: Predators).
 
2013-02-12 10:23:41 AM  
Old news is old
 
2013-02-12 10:26:02 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Venom wasn't an issue in Spider-Man 3, Eric Forman playing Venom was the issue. He's a great villain (or anti-hero depending on what you've seen), but if the actor who portrays him has only acted in rom-coms/played the dweeb on TV, it's gonna draw the audience out of it. I'm not saying it can't be done, but the person needs to be fully committed (like Ledger playing Joker).

And Topher is just not a convincing villain (see also: Predators).


Well said.
Topher Grace was the complete and utter opposite of who should've played Venom.

Also, to do Venom properly, you need a tone similar to X-Men (2000). Serious but still adventure-like, and not trying too hard to make him over the top.

The hipster indie flick known as "the amazing spider-man" was nowhere near what you need. And this new one will be a fail of a movie as well.
 
2013-02-12 10:28:50 AM  
If they do venom like they did in ultimate spider-man, I have no issue with that.

secret-wars/alien venom stuff is a bit too much for suspension of disbelief, even if you have a man spider jumping around all the time.
 
2013-02-12 10:33:02 AM  
I hope not, otherwise it's going to make the same exact mistake Spiderman 3 made and fail horribly.
 
2013-02-12 10:43:46 AM  

You Are All Sheep: If they do venom like they did in ultimate spider-man, I have no issue with that.

secret-wars/alien venom stuff is a bit too much for suspension of disbelief, even if you have a man spider jumping around all the time.


There's a "too much suspension of disbelief"  in the comic realm now?
 
2013-02-12 10:46:47 AM  
Oh goodie I can smell the carnage on its way.
 
2013-02-12 10:59:31 AM  
Am I the only one that is thinking this is an Easter egg on the movie. Like how the Raimi's Spider-Man had Conners in it but never used him. It could be a hint that Venom could be set free but not used as a villain till Amazing Spidy 3.
 
2013-02-12 11:00:39 AM  
Moar Carnage plz.
 
2013-02-12 11:05:16 AM  

yves0010: Am I the only one that is thinking this is an Easter egg on the movie. Like how the Raimi's Spider-Man had Conners in it but never used him. It could be a hint that Venom could be set free but not used as a villain till Amazing Spidy 3.


I don't think that was an easter egg -- more likely they were laying the groundwork in case they wanted to use him as a villan later on.
 
2013-02-12 11:07:48 AM  
Man, they could start Peter on his photographer career at the Bugle and introduce Eddie Brock in Amazing Spider-Man 2.  No need to rush things dammit.
 
2013-02-12 11:08:11 AM  

JolobinSmokin: Oh goodie I can smell the carnage on its way.


Girion47: Moar Carnage plz.


...one red vial, one black.  Make it happen
 
2013-02-12 11:15:22 AM  
Nobody who cares about Spider-Man gives a shiat what Marc Webb does with Sony-Man 2. The first one sucked, and it pissed all over the character. I waited to see it for free with a Vudu credit, and I regretted wasting the credit. I won't waste the money or credit this time.

Give Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios, you Sony Pictures assholes.

And you people-- Stop paying theaters and Sony to see them ruin a character that deserves better.
 
2013-02-12 11:16:45 AM  
The Amazing Spiderman was WEAK, the first trilogy was way better. Reboots, lol. A fool and their money...
 
2013-02-12 11:18:57 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Venom wasn't an issue in Spider-Man 3, Eric Forman playing Venom was the issue. He's a great villain (or anti-hero depending on what you've seen), but if the actor who portrays him has only acted in rom-coms/played the dweeb on TV, it's gonna draw the audience out of it. I'm not saying it can't be done, but the person needs to be fully committed (like Ledger playing Joker).

And Topher is just not a convincing villain (see also: Predators).


I always felt Thomas Haden Church made more sense playing Brock/Venom for that film.
 
2013-02-12 11:20:00 AM  

scottydoesntknow: And Topher is just not a convincing villain (see also: Predators).


He wasn't a villain in that role, he was a cretin, which, imo, he excelled at. It seemed so natural.
 
2013-02-12 11:27:05 AM  

ZeroCorpse: Nobody who cares about Spider-Man gives a shiat what Marc Webb does with Sony-Man 2. The first one sucked, and it pissed all over the character. I waited to see it for free with a Vudu credit, and I regretted wasting the credit. I won't waste the money or credit this time.

Give Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios, you Sony Pictures assholes.

And you people-- Stop paying theaters and Sony to see them ruin a character that deserves better.


I enjoyed the new movie and thought it did a fine job of adapting not just Comic Book Spider-man, but Comic Book Peter Parker.  It's a bitter-sweet thing, though, as I'd very much like the rights to Spiderman to go back to Marvel, but they won't.  Not when Amazing Spider-man was as good as it was.  You can gnash your teeth and spew your bile all you want, it was second only to Raimi's Spider-man 2, and even then it was better than that movie in quite a few ways.
 
2013-02-12 11:38:47 AM  

Photographic locker room evidence that Amazing Spider-Man 2 is stealing some Venom from Spider-Man 3

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/Do not want.
 
2013-02-12 11:38:57 AM  

omeganuepsilon: scottydoesntknow: And Topher is just not a convincing villain (see also: Predators).

He wasn't a villain in that role, he was a cretin, which, imo, he excelled at. It seemed so natural.


Yeah but Venom/Brock, isn't a cretin.
He's like a sort of "more bad guy"-like Wolverine.
 
2013-02-12 11:45:31 AM  

mooseyfate: ZeroCorpse: Nobody who cares about Spider-Man gives a shiat what Marc Webb does with Sony-Man 2. The first one sucked, and it pissed all over the character. I waited to see it for free with a Vudu credit, and I regretted wasting the credit. I won't waste the money or credit this time.

Give Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios, you Sony Pictures assholes.

And you people-- Stop paying theaters and Sony to see them ruin a character that deserves better.

I enjoyed the new movie and thought it did a fine job of adapting not just Comic Book Spider-man, but Comic Book Peter Parker.  It's a bitter-sweet thing, though, as I'd very much like the rights to Spiderman to go back to Marvel, but they won't.  Not when Amazing Spider-man was as good as it was.  You can gnash your teeth and spew your bile all you want, it was second only to Raimi's Spider-man 2, and even then it was better than that movie in quite a few ways.


This
 
2013-02-12 12:00:32 PM  

texdent: mooseyfate: ZeroCorpse: Nobody who cares about Spider-Man gives a shiat what Marc Webb does with Sony-Man 2. The first one sucked, and it pissed all over the character. I waited to see it for free with a Vudu credit, and I regretted wasting the credit. I won't waste the money or credit this time.

Give Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios, you Sony Pictures assholes.

And you people-- Stop paying theaters and Sony to see them ruin a character that deserves better.

I enjoyed the new movie and thought it did a fine job of adapting not just Comic Book Spider-man, but Comic Book Peter Parker.  It's a bitter-sweet thing, though, as I'd very much like the rights to Spiderman to go back to Marvel, but they won't.  Not when Amazing Spider-man was as good as it was.  You can gnash your teeth and spew your bile all you want, it was second only to Raimi's Spider-man 2, and even then it was better than that movie in quite a few ways.

This


Mechanical Web Shooters... That is all!
 
2013-02-12 12:04:23 PM  

yves0010: Mechanical Web Shooters... That is all!


And he actually fights like spiderman now.  The library fight won me over.
 
2013-02-12 12:36:32 PM  

thecpt: yves0010: Mechanical Web Shooters... That is all!

And he actually fights like spiderman now.  The library fight won me over.


Yep. Don't get me wrong, I had issues with the flick (Origin story, Lizard looked horrible and Parker was a little too much "I'm a rebel! I skateboard to deal my with my problems!") but overall, it wasn't bad and they totally got the way Spider-man moves and fights. In the original trilogy, he was waaay too stiff and the lack of smart-ass spidey always annoyed the crap outta me.

I'd still like to see Marvel get the character back cause they've done great things with their movies, but I'll still go see 2. Now that the origin is done, hopefully they can start to branch out away from Raimi's flicks, which frankly, were never that good.

That's right, I said it. Go back and watch that trilogy with an open mind and tell me that Tobey Maguire was good. I remember loving them when they came out, but I re-watched them a few weeks back and goddamn, Tobey Maguire is as interesting to watch as driftwood. It's like he's sleep-acting. And Kirsten Dunst just kind of hams it up, not that it's all her fault. The dialogue is George Lucas bad in places. The only good parts are the villains, Green Goblin and Doc Ock.
 
2013-02-12 12:44:29 PM  

YodaBlues: thecpt: yves0010: Mechanical Web Shooters... That is all!

And he actually fights like spiderman now.  The library fight won me over.

Yep. Don't get me wrong, I had issues with the flick (Origin story, Lizard looked horrible and Parker was a little too much "I'm a rebel! I skateboard to deal my with my problems!") but overall, it wasn't bad and they totally got the way Spider-man moves and fights. In the original trilogy, he was waaay too stiff and the lack of smart-ass spidey always annoyed the crap outta me.

I'd still like to see Marvel get the character back cause they've done great things with their movies, but I'll still go see 2. Now that the origin is done, hopefully they can start to branch out away from Raimi's flicks, which frankly, were never that good.

That's right, I said it. Go back and watch that trilogy with an open mind and tell me that Tobey Maguire was good. I remember loving them when they came out, but I re-watched them a few weeks back and goddamn, Tobey Maguire is as interesting to watch as driftwood. It's like he's sleep-acting. And Kirsten Dunst just kind of hams it up, not that it's all her fault. The dialogue is George Lucas bad in places. The only good parts are the villains, Green Goblin and Doc Ock.


I'd like to see Marvel get Spidey just to see the Sentry rip Carnage in half.
 
2013-02-12 12:56:29 PM  

sure haven't: omeganuepsilon: scottydoesntknow: And Topher is just not a convincing villain (see also: Predators).

He wasn't a villain in that role, he was a cretin, which, imo, he excelled at. It seemed so natural.

Yeah but Venom/Brock, isn't a cretin.
He's like a sort of "more bad guy"-like Wolverine.


I was merely commenting on his role in Predators, and his natural dick demeanor.  My bad for not realizing how the part I quoted was not exclusive to that.
 
2013-02-12 12:58:43 PM  

Girion47: YodaBlues: thecpt: yves0010: Mechanical Web Shooters... That is all!

And he actually fights like spiderman now.  The library fight won me over.

Yep. Don't get me wrong, I had issues with the flick (Origin story, Lizard looked horrible and Parker was a little too much "I'm a rebel! I skateboard to deal my with my problems!") but overall, it wasn't bad and they totally got the way Spider-man moves and fights. In the original trilogy, he was waaay too stiff and the lack of smart-ass spidey always annoyed the crap outta me.

I'd still like to see Marvel get the character back cause they've done great things with their movies, but I'll still go see 2. Now that the origin is done, hopefully they can start to branch out away from Raimi's flicks, which frankly, were never that good.

That's right, I said it. Go back and watch that trilogy with an open mind and tell me that Tobey Maguire was good. I remember loving them when they came out, but I re-watched them a few weeks back and goddamn, Tobey Maguire is as interesting to watch as driftwood. It's like he's sleep-acting. And Kirsten Dunst just kind of hams it up, not that it's all her fault. The dialogue is George Lucas bad in places. The only good parts are the villains, Green Goblin and Doc Ock.

I'd like to see Marvel get Spidey just to see the Sentry rip Carnage in half.


Sentry, really? He was a Deus ex Machina  with mental problems.
 
2013-02-12 12:59:30 PM  

texdent: Girion47: YodaBlues: thecpt: yves0010: Mechanical Web Shooters... That is all!

And he actually fights like spiderman now.  The library fight won me over.

Yep. Don't get me wrong, I had issues with the flick (Origin story, Lizard looked horrible and Parker was a little too much "I'm a rebel! I skateboard to deal my with my problems!") but overall, it wasn't bad and they totally got the way Spider-man moves and fights. In the original trilogy, he was waaay too stiff and the lack of smart-ass spidey always annoyed the crap outta me.

I'd still like to see Marvel get the character back cause they've done great things with their movies, but I'll still go see 2. Now that the origin is done, hopefully they can start to branch out away from Raimi's flicks, which frankly, were never that good.

That's right, I said it. Go back and watch that trilogy with an open mind and tell me that Tobey Maguire was good. I remember loving them when they came out, but I re-watched them a few weeks back and goddamn, Tobey Maguire is as interesting to watch as driftwood. It's like he's sleep-acting. And Kirsten Dunst just kind of hams it up, not that it's all her fault. The dialogue is George Lucas bad in places. The only good parts are the villains, Green Goblin and Doc Ock.

I'd like to see Marvel get Spidey just to see the Sentry rip Carnage in half.

Sentry, really? He was a Deus ex Machina  with mental problems.


And still better than Superman.
 
2013-02-12 01:01:47 PM  
Going back to Topher Grace:  Topher Grace would have been a perfect Peter Parker for the first trilogy.  Go back and look at his work as Forman - he had a dry wit but he was also a dweeb.  He got the girl but still had to deal with typical high school stuff.
 
2013-02-12 01:03:47 PM  
YodaBlues:

I'd still like to see Marvel get the character back cause they've done great things with their movies, but I'll still go see 2. Now that the origin is done, hopefully they can start to branch out away from Raimi's flicks, which frankly, were never that good.

That's right, I said it. Go back and watch that trilogy with an open mind and tell me that Tobey Maguire was good. I remember loving them when they came out, but I re-watched them a few weeks back and goddamn, Tobey Maguire is as interesting to watch as driftwood. It's like he's sleep-acting. And Kirsten Dunst just kind of hams it up, not that it's all her fault. The dialogue is George Lucas bad in places. The only good parts are the villains, Green Goblin and Doc Ock.


AGree 100%.  Maguire was never ever right for that role.  Neither was Dunst.

The roles of Doc Ock?  Osborn?  Jameson?  Spot-on perfect though.
 
2013-02-12 01:11:42 PM  

MattyFridays: Going back to Topher Grace:  Topher Grace would have been a perfect Peter Parker for the first trilogy.  Go back and look at his work as Forman - he had a dry wit but he was also a dweeb.  He got the girl but still had to deal with typical high school stuff.


I believe Topher Grace was who they originally wanted, but he was unable to commit due to That 70's Show. And when Maguire was in doubt for one of the sequels cause of his back injury, Grace was lined up and ready to go. He certainly would've gotten the quick-witted spider-man right.

MattyFridays: The roles of Doc Ock?  Osborn?  Jameson?  Spot-on perfect though


+1, would agree with again.
 
2013-02-12 01:20:27 PM  

YodaBlues: , it wasn't bad and they totally got the way Spider-man moves and fights. In the original trilogy, he was waaay too stiff and the lack of smart-ass spidey always annoyed the crap outta me.


The rest of the post as well, but especially THIS.  I'm not a fanboy by any means, and therefore don't carry a hard-on for being explicitly faithful to the source material, but Spidey as such had an attitude that was almost iconic and this new iteration of him made it seem natural, not awkward and forced as with Toby.

Being a remake so soon I had my doubts.  Refreshing to see them get so many things right instead of it being a botched hack-job.

Lizard was a lame villain, however well performed and written.  I pass that off as a poor executive decision though.

yves0010: Mechanical Web Shooters... That is all!


That's the one thing in the Toby suck-fest that I had no problems with at all.  Even as a kid I'd thought it would have made more sense, made him more Spiderman and less Iron Man / Batman.  Making them mechanical was also a Deus ex of sorts, allowing for very contrived circumstances.

When they were a part of his biology it made for easy parallels to impotency and were believable/natural as such.
 
2013-02-12 01:24:55 PM  

YodaBlues: MattyFridays: Going back to Topher Grace:  Topher Grace would have been a perfect Peter Parker for the first trilogy.  Go back and look at his work as Forman - he had a dry wit but he was also a dweeb.  He got the girl but still had to deal with typical high school stuff.

I believe Topher Grace was who they originally wanted, but he was unable to commit due to That 70's Show. And when Maguire was in doubt for one of the sequels cause of his back injury, Grace was lined up and ready to go. He certainly would've gotten the quick-witted spider-man right.

MattyFridays: The roles of Doc Ock?  Osborn?  Jameson?  Spot-on perfect though

+1, would agree with again.


I thought that was Jake Gyllenhaal.
 
2013-02-12 01:25:42 PM  

YodaBlues: MattyFridays: Going back to Topher Grace:  Topher Grace would have been a perfect Peter Parker for the first trilogy.  Go back and look at his work as Forman - he had a dry wit but he was also a dweeb.  He got the girl but still had to deal with typical high school stuff.

I believe Topher Grace was who they originally wanted, but he was unable to commit due to That 70's Show. And when Maguire was in doubt for one of the sequels cause of his back injury, Grace was lined up and ready to go. He certainly would've gotten the quick-witted spider-man right.


Seems familiar.

He could have probably done it, but not well I think.  Spiderman's wit was more harmless/playful, as where Eric Foreman's natural wit seemed to carry a certain amount of genuine spite.

That's just the impression he delivers across his roles, imo. YMMV
 
2013-02-12 01:42:34 PM  

Lee's_Austin: I thought that was Jake Gyllenhaal.


Oh snap, you're right. My bad, keeping all this useless info in my head straight can be daunting sometimes.
 
2013-02-12 01:44:39 PM  

YodaBlues: Lee's_Austin: I thought that was Jake Gyllenhaal.

Oh snap, you're right. My bad, keeping all this useless info in my head straight can be daunting sometimes.


Pain felt, friendo.
 
2013-02-12 01:57:57 PM  
I'm ok with this, hopefully I remain ok with it after watching.

Venom as a concept is what a Spiderman movie needs...it just needs to be done right.  Add in a Carnage teaser for the 3rd film perhaps and I'll be unable to hide my nerd boner.
 
2013-02-12 01:59:54 PM  
So they are keeping the crap villain from SM 3 and losing the good one. Strong work.
 
2013-02-12 02:52:27 PM  
ZeroCorpse: Nobody who cares about Spider-Man gives a shiat what Marc Webb does with Sony-Man 2. The first one sucked, and it pissed all over the character. I waited to see it for free with a Vudu credit, and I regretted wasting the credit. I won't waste the money or credit this time.

Give Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios, you Sony Pictures assholes.

And you people-- Stop paying theaters and Sony to see them ruin a character that deserves better.


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2013-02-12 04:11:03 PM  
FTFA
"Does this mean Venom would be an active character in The Amazing Spider-Man 2, which already features Electro, the Rhino, and presumably Norman Osborne?"

The Tedious Trio? I'm not a big Venom fan but he's not even in the same league as Electro and the Rhino. Those guys are dweebs. It's probably just a really obscure Easter egg.

The Sinister Six works great in the comics. Not too bad in some of the cartoons either. But there's no way it would translate into the movies, the type of people who go to those and only count the movies don't have the brainpower to process something like that. The studio heads even less so.
 
2013-02-12 04:26:37 PM  
The problem with 3 was that Rami was on the record as disliking Venom and never wanting to do a Venom movie, Sony made him, so he did a piss poor job of it.

Not sure who to blame more for that, Sony for being dicks or Rami for being a biatch.
 
2013-02-12 04:34:16 PM  
You know who should have been Eddie Brock in Spider-Man 3?

John Cena.

No, I'm serious. He looks like the real life Eddie Brock, and John Cena being a total dickbag would have been a lot better than Topher Grace. fark, Topher Grace should have been Peter Parker.
 
2013-02-12 05:15:28 PM  

Anarchangel: You know who should have been Eddie Brock in Spider-Man 3?

John Cena.

No, I'm serious. He looks like the real life Eddie Brock, and John Cena being a total dickbag would have been a lot better than Topher Grace. fark, Topher Grace should have been Peter Parker.


Actually, I'm down with this. Actually, Cena would have worked, but so would Triple H (but in a more caveman-browed kind of way).

My only problem with Cena is that he always comes off as Marky Mark after being injected with a super soldier serum.
 
2013-02-12 06:37:21 PM  

mooseyfate: ZeroCorpse: Nobody who cares about Spider-Man gives a shiat what Marc Webb does with Sony-Man 2. The first one sucked, and it pissed all over the character. I waited to see it for free with a Vudu credit, and I regretted wasting the credit. I won't waste the money or credit this time.

Give Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios, you Sony Pictures assholes.

And you people-- Stop paying theaters and Sony to see them ruin a character that deserves better.

I enjoyed the new movie and thought it did a fine job of adapting not just Comic Book Spider-man, but Comic Book Peter Parker.  It's a bitter-sweet thing, though, as I'd very much like the rights to Spiderman to go back to Marvel, but they won't.  Not when Amazing Spider-man was as good as it was.  You can gnash your teeth and spew your bile all you want, it was second only to Raimi's Spider-man 2, and even then it was better than that movie in quite a few ways.


Wow, I thought I was the only one who thought this.  Of course most of the people I talk to haven't even seen it and just judge it based on the trailer and the fact that they redid the origin.  I think it's definitely the best since 2 and on par with 1.  I'm excited to see what they do with the next one and I think they'll win people over if they can top the last one.
 
2013-02-12 06:42:42 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Nobody who cares about Spider-Man gives a shiat what Marc Webb does with Sony-Man 2. The first one sucked, and it pissed all over the character. I waited to see it for free with a Vudu credit, and I regretted wasting the credit. I won't waste the money or credit this time.

Give Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios, you Sony Pictures assholes.

And you people-- Stop paying theaters and Sony to see them ruin a character that deserves better.


How did they piss all over the character?  If anything the Peter Parker role was the most spot on in the movie.  He has the look, they did the fights well, the snarky comments, him skateboarding makes his daredevil attitude make sense.  Also Emma Stone is hot as fark as a blonde.

I'm curious where all the hate comes from for this movie.  Care to elaborate?
 
2013-02-12 07:42:09 PM  

dehehn: I'm curious where all the hate comes from for this movie.  Care to elaborate?


I think it's a combination of a too-soon origin story redo, a too-pretty Peter Parker for nerd tastes, and a general sulkiness about anything that nerds think might appear cool to people who aren't nerds (see: J.J. Abrams' Star Trek). They hate it on general principles alone, the actual movie is irrelevant.
 
2013-02-12 08:09:14 PM  

dehehn: ZeroCorpse: Nobody who cares about Spider-Man gives a shiat what Marc Webb does with Sony-Man 2. The first one sucked, and it pissed all over the character. I waited to see it for free with a Vudu credit, and I regretted wasting the credit. I won't waste the money or credit this time.

Give Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios, you Sony Pictures assholes.

And you people-- Stop paying theaters and Sony to see them ruin a character that deserves better.

How did they piss all over the character?  If anything the Peter Parker role was the most spot on in the movie.  He has the look, they did the fights well, the snarky comments, him skateboarding makes his daredevil attitude make sense.  Also Emma Stone is hot as fark as a blonde.

I'm curious where all the hate comes from for this movie.  Care to elaborate?


He's a dick throughout the movie. Not just a slacker, but an outright asshole. That's not Parker.

He's not snarky; He's mean. All his "jokes" were more like the kind of thing a bully would say. He takes it way past snarky comments to "stop hitting yourself" style gags, which is not very Parker, either.

Honestly, I saw it a while ago and there were a lot of very specific things that made me downright pissed at the writers and director (and Garfield), because they totally missed the point of who Peter Parker is, but I can't remember those specifics anymore... I seem to have blocked them from my memory.

Look, I'm a HUGE Spidey fan. I've read every issue of Amazing Spider-Man and Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man. Peter Parker-- not Spider-Man, but Parker-- is one of my heroes in life. He's supposed to be the brilliant science geek who gets picked on, gains great power, and remains humble and decent. The guy in this movie was neither humble nor decent. He was an asshole and a bully. He showed off his powers publicly (and his classmates are idiots for not figuring out his identity), he didn't just make bad jokes when fighting bad guys-- he was cruel and dragged it out, making the encounter feel less like Spidey cracking jokes to settle his own nerves (the reason he does it) and more like he was bullying the criminals, trying to humiliate them AND hurt them.

The skateboarding was way out of character, as was the whole basketball scene. And again, how hard is it for Peter Parker to keep his farking mask on for an entire movie, and NOT reveal his identity to someone? He revealed himself to more people in this one movie than Peter Parker revealed his identity to in the entire first 25 years of the comic.

His whole origin was watered down. His scientific prowess-- while better than in the Raimi pics-- was still lessened for the movie in the interest of making him less of a nerd and more of a "dark loner" character.

He acts out of character so frequently it's maddening.

And I'm sorry, but I really dislike the idea of making Gwen Stacy a high school classmate who also happens to work for OsCorp with Conners. It was just a really awful, clumsy way to smash as many comic elements as possible in one movie.

But if I had to sum up why I hate the movie (aside from the fact that Sony keeping the film rights means that we'll never get a proper Spider-Man movie that takes place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe), it would be in these clips:

http://youtu.be/l2KSPiTOMR8
http://youtu.be/IKe-HJhWrJc
http://youtu.be/SA-lmZKO4fU
 
2013-02-12 08:28:46 PM  
All I know, is I'd gladly rather watch Amazing Spider-Man again than Raimi's Spider-Man 1, which is duller than a box of rocks.

That said, I'd probably just find something better to do than watch either one.
 
2013-02-12 10:38:39 PM  
I am just going to touch on what I disagreed with about the movie.

One Garfield and whoever played Gwen aren't convincing high school students.

The origin story doesn't really need to be redone anyway.  Everyone who is going to see the movie knows who spiderman is.

Garfield just doesn't look right as spiderman(aside from the age issue.)  Toby had that sort of innocent boyish look to him whereas Garfield looks more villainous.
 
2013-02-12 11:14:12 PM  

Gergesa: I am just going to touch on what I disagreed with about the movie.

One Garfield and whoever played Gwen aren't convincing high school students.

The origin story doesn't really need to be redone anyway.  Everyone who is going to see the movie knows who spiderman is.

Garfield just doesn't look right as spiderman(aside from the age issue.)  Toby had that sort of innocent boyish look to him whereas Garfield looks more villainous.


That's okay. In the comic, Peter didn't even meet Gwen until college. He didn't go to high school with her OR Mary Jane. In high school, Peter first girlfriend was Betty Brant (JJJ's secretary). Liz Allen had a crush on him in later years, before graduation, but they never dated.

And that's what really bugs me about the way they put Spider-Man on the screen. They skip huge chunks of his life, skip right to Gwen or MJ, and ignore everything between his being bitten by a radioactive spider and his career as Spider-Man in college. They breeze past his issues with Harry, his being the constant victim of Flash before later becoming his friend, and his whole time as "puny Parker" when he worked REALLY hard to hide his identity (Protip: Bending the football goalpost with an offhand throw is not "low profile". Neither is taking off your mask every five minutes or making a superhuman leap to the basketball hoop when you're supposed to be a puny nerd.)

It's like they think they can't get mainstream viewers if they make Parker the nerd he's supposed to be. The best they ever do is "shy-but-cute hipster geek" and that's not who he was. Parker was a science nerd.

I didn't like Tobey's version either, but at least he didn't come off as a dick, like Garfield did.

And NO, they don't need to re-invent the character or rewrite his origin. The changes they made were unnecessary and kind of insulting.

I realize that at this point Sony's never letting go and Marvel will just have to have a Cinematic Universe without Spider-Man. That sucks, because a Marvel Universe without Spider-Man feels a little more... empty.
 
2013-02-13 08:28:56 AM  

ZeroCorpse: dehehn: ZeroCorpse: Nobody who cares about Spider-Man gives a shiat what Marc Webb does with Sony-Man 2. The first one sucked, and it pissed all over the character. I waited to see it for free with a Vudu credit, and I regretted wasting the credit. I won't waste the money or credit this time.

Give Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios, you Sony Pictures assholes.

And you people-- Stop paying theaters and Sony to see them ruin a character that deserves better.

How did they piss all over the character?  If anything the Peter Parker role was the most spot on in the movie.  He has the look, they did the fights well, the snarky comments, him skateboarding makes his daredevil attitude make sense.  Also Emma Stone is hot as fark as a blonde.

I'm curious where all the hate comes from for this movie.  Care to elaborate?

He's a dick throughout the movie. Not just a slacker, but an outright asshole. That's not Parker.

He's not snarky; He's mean. All his "jokes" were more like the kind of thing a bully would say. He takes it way past snarky comments to "stop hitting yourself" style gags, which is not very Parker, either.

Honestly, I saw it a while ago and there were a lot of very specific things that made me downright pissed at the writers and director (and Garfield), because they totally missed the point of who Peter Parker is, but I can't remember those specifics anymore... I seem to have blocked them from my memory.

Look, I'm a HUGE Spidey fan. I've read every issue of Amazing Spider-Man and Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man. Peter Parker-- not Spider-Man, but Parker-- is one of my heroes in life. He's supposed to be the brilliant science geek who gets picked on, gains great power, and remains humble and decent. The guy in this movie was neither humble nor decent. He was an asshole and a bully. He showed off his powers publicly (and his classmates are idiots for not figuring out his identity), he didn't just make bad jokes when fighting bad guys-- he was cruel and dragged it out, making the encounter feel less like Spidey cracking jokes to settle his own nerves (the reason he does it) and more like he was bullying the criminals, trying to humiliate them AND hurt them.

The skateboarding was way out of character, as was the whole basketball scene. And again, how hard is it for Peter Parker to keep his farking mask on for an entire movie, and NOT reveal his identity to someone? He revealed himself to more people in this one movie than Peter Parker revealed his identity to in the entire first 25 years of the comic.

His whole origin was watered down. His scientific prowess-- while better than in the Raimi pics-- was still lessened for the movie in the interest of making him less of a nerd and more of a "dark loner" character.

He acts out of character so frequently it's maddening.

And I'm sorry, but I really dislike the idea of making Gwen Stacy a high school classmate who also happens to work for OsCorp with Conners. It was just a really awful, clumsy way to smash as many comic elements as possible in one movie.

But if I had to sum up why I hate the movie (aside from the fact that Sony keeping the film rights means that we'll never get a proper Spider-Man movie that takes place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe), it would be in these clips:

http://youtu.be/l2KSPiTOMR8
http://youtu.be/IKe-HJhWrJc
http://youtu.be/SA-lmZKO4fU


I think you might have missed the point of the parts of the movie where he's being a dick to the people that match the Description of Uncle Ben's killer.
 
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