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(SeattlePI)   Don't look now, but Gonzaga is the fifth best college basketball team in the country. Take that, Pac-12   (seattlepi.com) divider line 53
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2013-02-12 10:39:33 AM  
Kind of a stupid article to green, why not link to the latest poll?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
 
2013-02-12 10:43:54 AM  
Oops. I looked.

/And Popcorn Johnny is right.
 
2013-02-12 10:48:51 AM  
Looking at the schedule, Gonzaga could very easily end up being #1 come tournament time.  They should have an easy time with the rest of their schedule while everybody else near the top has at least one tough opponent left.
 
2013-02-12 11:48:06 AM  
They got there by head kicking the competition

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2013-02-12 12:13:38 PM  
Isn't this going to ruin their perpetual us-against-the-world underdog mentality? They're not underdogs now, just a good team in a shiat conference.
 
2013-02-12 12:15:05 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Looking at the schedule, Gonzaga could very easily end up being #1 come tournament time.  They should have an easy time with the rest of their schedule while everybody else near the top has at least one tough opponent left.


They have a game against defending WCC champ Saint Mary's in Moraga on Thursday. Gonzaga will be favored to win, but that game is going to be anything but easy for them. Don't be shocked if this is the latest top 5 team to go down.

/Go Gaels
 
2013-02-12 12:16:05 PM  
They always do well in the regular season and no one wants to play them in the first round, but they haven't been to the Elite Eight since 1999.

I consider myself a Gonzaga fan, but they're approaching Notre Dame levels of overrated.  Don't rank 'em in the Top Ten unless you expect them to be one of the last ten teams standing in the tourney.
 
2013-02-12 12:16:06 PM  
I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?
 
2013-02-12 12:16:48 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Kind of a stupid article to green, why not link to the latest poll?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings


The SEC sucks.  I mean, the SEC really SUCKS.
 
2013-02-12 12:18:55 PM  

JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?


I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.
 
2013-02-12 12:19:21 PM  
Indiana stayed #1? They lost to friggin Illinois. Granted they also beat Ohio State, but OSU has lost to Illinois, so how good can they be?

/frustrated Illini fan
//can beat the big guys, can't beat the little ones
 
2013-02-12 12:19:37 PM  
Gonzaga is pretty good, could easily be a .500 team in the Big Ten.
 
2013-02-12 12:21:11 PM  

JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?


Geography.

Muta: The SEC sucks. I mean, the SEC really SUCKS.


If you live in the Bible Belt, you're playin' football.  Mmmmmmmaybe baseball, if you play football too.  But mostly football.
 
2013-02-12 12:26:18 PM  

Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.


It's been a long time since people didn't believe Gonzaga was a good team.
 
2013-02-12 12:27:33 PM  
Eh - Butler already did it
 
2013-02-12 12:29:10 PM  

Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.


The Mountain West has the number 2 RPI ranking as a confrence, just behind the Big 10.  Pac-12 is down a ways at number 6.
 
2013-02-12 12:34:01 PM  
#4 vs #8 tonight!
 
2013-02-12 12:40:40 PM  

HeadLever: Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.

The Mountain West has the number 2 RPI ranking as a confrence, just behind the Big 10.  Pac-12 is down a ways at number 6.


Hey, not saying it's a correct opinion, but my assumption is that what <b>submitter</b> was responding to.
 
2013-02-12 12:56:22 PM  
Gonzaga has played 3 ranked opponents, losing to two of them and beating a then #22 Ok. St.

The good thing about Basketball is that  your ranking is almost irrlevant as long as you make the field of 68.

They will end up losing before the Elite 8 but somehow will still be an underdog story getting to the Sweet 16.
 
2013-02-12 12:58:23 PM  

Car_Ramrod: Indiana stayed #1? They lost to friggin Illinois. Granted they also beat Ohio State, but OSU has lost to Illinois, so how good can they be?

/frustrated Illini fan
//can beat the big guys, can't beat the little ones


You know who else lost to Illinois?  Gonzaga.  By 11.
 
2013-02-12 01:01:51 PM  

Cagey B: HeadLever: Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.

The Mountain West has the number 2 RPI ranking as a confrence, just behind the Big 10.  Pac-12 is down a ways at number 6.

Hey, not saying it's a correct opinion, but my assumption is that what <b>submitter</b> was responding to.


Not snarking.  Just pointing out something that definately suprised me.

/agree with you projection about what subby may have been thinking
 
2013-02-12 01:01:53 PM  

srhp29: Car_Ramrod: Indiana stayed #1? They lost to friggin Illinois. Granted they also beat Ohio State, but OSU has lost to Illinois, so how good can they be?

/frustrated Illini fan
//can beat the big guys, can't beat the little ones

You know who else lost to Illinois?  Gonzaga.  By 11.


Northwestern > Gonzaga

/illini fan
//gave up, enjoying the ride
 
2013-02-12 01:08:11 PM  
It's true, they DESTROYED Washington State, the Pac-12's last-place team, with an authoritative 71-69 victory.

The WCC's almost ready to play against high schools.
 
2013-02-12 01:10:04 PM  

HeadLever: Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.

The Mountain West has the number 2 RPI ranking as a confrence, just behind the Big 10.  Pac-12 is down a ways at number 6.


What I find most interesting about your statement is that Gonzaga's RPI is 12th.  So if they play in such a highly regarded conference why does that seem to hurt their ranking?
 
2013-02-12 01:10:17 PM  

srhp29: Car_Ramrod: Indiana stayed #1? They lost to friggin Illinois. Granted they also beat Ohio State, but OSU has lost to Illinois, so how good can they be?

/frustrated Illini fan
//can beat the big guys, can't beat the little ones

You know who else lost to Illinois?  Gonzaga.  By 11.


Ha, that's right. Back when we were foolish enough to think we deserved a national ranking. Like I said, we've won some games against very good teams, but it's what we do in between that's pathetic.

But then, Illinois was #13 and Gonzaga #10. After that game, Gonzaga dropped to #14, and Illinois went up to #10. I don't understand why Indiana is not dropping at all in the rankings because of this.
 
2013-02-12 01:13:14 PM  

atedogonce: It's true, they DESTROYED Washington State, the Pac-12's last-place team, with an authoritative 71-69 victory.

The WCC's almost ready to play against high schools.


Most farkers still think Auburn DESTROYED Oregon in the NCG by winning with a last second field goal....You're better off taking your logic someplace else.
 
2013-02-12 01:15:03 PM  
To continue talking about Illinois, we're 5-3 against Top 25 teams, but 0-3 against 26-50 teams. That's gonna kill you. Especially considering we have the 5th highest SOS in Div I. You gotta win those "easy" games to stay competitive.
 
2013-02-12 01:18:59 PM  

srhp29: HeadLever: Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.

The Mountain West has the number 2 RPI ranking as a confrence, just behind the Big 10.  Pac-12 is down a ways at number 6.

What I find most interesting about your statement is that Gonzaga's RPI is 12th.  So if they play in such a highly regarded conference why does that seem to hurt their ranking?


What I find most interesting about your statement is that you think Gonzaga plays in the Mountain West.
 
2013-02-12 01:23:19 PM  
Did Adam Morrison cry when he heard this news?
 
2013-02-12 01:24:15 PM  

Cagey B: I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.


The Pac-12 sucks hard.  Arizona is the only team that looks like it belongs in the tournament right now.

/Gonzaga is still overrated
 
2013-02-12 01:25:34 PM  

dark brew: srhp29: HeadLever: Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.

The Mountain West has the number 2 RPI ranking as a confrence, just behind the Big 10.  Pac-12 is down a ways at number 6.

What I find most interesting about your statement is that Gonzaga's RPI is 12th.  So if they play in such a highly regarded conference why does that seem to hurt their ranking?

What I find most interesting about your statement is that you think Gonzaga plays in the Mountain West.


That beats out "12th is a bad RPI," but only barely.
 
2013-02-12 01:26:15 PM  

atedogonce: The WCC's almost ready to play against high schools.


The WCC is tenth in RPI rankings among the conferences. It's not a Power Six conference, but it's not terrible either.
 
2013-02-12 01:28:21 PM  

French Rage: Did Adam Morrison cry when he heard this news?


i182.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-12 01:35:42 PM  

srhp29: HeadLever: Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.

The Mountain West has the number 2 RPI ranking as a confrence, just behind the Big 10.  Pac-12 is down a ways at number 6.

What I find most interesting about your statement is that Gonzaga's RPI is 12th.  So if they play in such a highly regarded conference why does that seem to hurt their ranking?


What Dark Brew said.  Gonzaga plays in the West Coast Confrence which has a confrence RPR ranking of 10th.
 
2013-02-12 01:42:53 PM  

thecpt: #4 vs #8 tonight!


Can't wait, Go Blue!
 
2013-02-12 01:43:05 PM  

Cagey B: French Rage: Did Adam Morrison cry when he heard this news?

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He's gonna get his pedostache all wet.
 
2013-02-12 01:53:55 PM  

dark brew: srhp29: HeadLever: Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.

The Mountain West has the number 2 RPI ranking as a confrence, just behind the Big 10.  Pac-12 is down a ways at number 6.

What I find most interesting about your statement is that Gonzaga's RPI is 12th.  So if they play in such a highly regarded conference why does that seem to hurt their ranking?

What I find most interesting about your statement is that you think Gonzaga plays in the Mountain West.


That was my bad because I assumed your comment had something to do with topic, so I just assumed that's what you mean without even thinking about how Gonzaga isn't in that one.  They say when you assume you make and ass out of u and me...but I just made one out of me so I don't agree with that logic.
 
2013-02-12 01:58:13 PM  

Dafatone: dark brew: srhp29: HeadLever: Cagey B: JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?

I'm assuming the headline is a reference to the opinion that the only good basketball teams out West are from the Pac-12.

The Mountain West has the number 2 RPI ranking as a confrence, just behind the Big 10.  Pac-12 is down a ways at number 6.

What I find most interesting about your statement is that Gonzaga's RPI is 12th.  So if they play in such a highly regarded conference why does that seem to hurt their ranking?

What I find most interesting about your statement is that you think Gonzaga plays in the Mountain West.

That beats out "12th is a bad RPI," but only barely.


Your reading comprehension could use some work.  Where did I say 12th was a bad RPI?  I merely, mistakenly, thought it was strange that their RPI was 12th while they are ranked 5th and playing in the #2 RPI conference.  Again, that was my mistake...But nowhere did I infer or state that an RPI of 12 was a bad RPI.  But that was when I was going on the assumption that the comment about the MWC had something to do with Gonzaga even though they don't play in it.  I would guess the WCCs RPI is a bit lower.  Perhaps even lower than the Pac 12's  Thanks for joining me in the make a moronic comment because I don't understand what I read penalty box though.
 
2013-02-12 02:51:57 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Gonzaga could very easily end up being #1 come tournament time.


Not gonna happen. And I love the Zags. They're lucky to be fifth. Establishment.
 
2013-02-12 03:26:11 PM  
Being ranked 5th this year is like being the world's tallest midget.
 
2013-02-12 04:16:10 PM  
There is so much churn in the top rankings that Gonzaga - a team that probably isn't even a top 10 team - may hang around and get a top seed, simply because they play absolutely nobody.

As for #1, Illinois fans have some really nice wins and have a puncher's shot of winning any game, but Indiana just completely fell asleep last Thursday.  They had that game won and just coughed it up.  Then they went to Columbus and looked fantastic against the Buckeyes.  If they solve their lack of killer instinct they definitely deserve #1 at this point.  The other contender (excepting Miami), Duke, barely, and only baaarely, beat a lousy BC team.

So Indiana stays where they're at.
 
2013-02-12 04:34:06 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: There is so much churn in the top rankings that Gonzaga - a team that probably isn't even a top 10 team - may hang around and get a top seed, simply because they play absolutely nobody.


I really just don't see it. Gonzaga can win out and maybe they can get a 1-seed but I highly doubt this. The planets would have to align and a lot of other teams would have to drop a lot of games. IU and Michigan are locks for 1-seeds, barring something unforeseen. Either of them could lose two more games if they're the right games and still get a 1 over the Zags. Either Duke or Miami has to win that game in Cameron. That's probably a game being played for the third 1-seed. That leaves probably Florida. We'll see what happens tonight. I can also see Michigan State. I really feel the B1G sentiment is high enough to merit 3 1-seeds this year... But the committee will use a B1G tournament early oust to drop one to a 2. This is all speculation... The main point still being, no way the pollsters are gonna go for the Zags. Establishment.

I do think, however, that this is the Zags' Final Four year. I feel strongly about this team.
 
2013-02-12 04:47:02 PM  
This far into a college basketball thread and nobody has pointed out how badly Duke sucks?  You guys are slipping.
 
2013-02-12 04:49:54 PM  

JohnHall: I'm actually baffled, what does this have to do with the Pac-12?


The Pac-12 has kind of sucked for the last few years, and Gonzaga, a school in Washington State isn't in it.  I don't know why subby thought it necessary to point that out as anyone that follows college ball even a little bit could tell you that the Pac-12 is in a down period, and that Gonzaga has been consistently good for a bout a decade.
 
2013-02-12 04:50:58 PM  

funk_soul_bubby: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: There is so much churn in the top rankings that Gonzaga - a team that probably isn't even a top 10 team - may hang around and get a top seed, simply because they play absolutely nobody.

I really just don't see it. Gonzaga can win out and maybe they can get a 1-seed but I highly doubt this. The planets would have to align and a lot of other teams would have to drop a lot of games. IU and Michigan are locks for 1-seeds, barring something unforeseen. Either of them could lose two more games if they're the right games and still get a 1 over the Zags. Either Duke or Miami has to win that game in Cameron. That's probably a game being played for the third 1-seed. That leaves probably Florida. We'll see what happens tonight. I can also see Michigan State. I really feel the B1G sentiment is high enough to merit 3 1-seeds this year... But the committee will use a B1G tournament early oust to drop one to a 2. This is all speculation... The main point still being, no way the pollsters are gonna go for the Zags. Establishment.

I do think, however, that this is the Zags' Final Four year. I feel strongly about this team.


The top teams will all lose at least one more time each, probably more, with tough conference tournaments coming up as well.  No one will survive the Big Ten without losing again, so there will be a lot of pressure to put Gonzaga in as the #1 ranked.  Whether the Committee sees fit to give them a #1 seed is another story.  I don't see this as much better than a good team, somewhere in the top 15.  If the stars align, as it must for any team, the Final Four could be in their future, but this is a team that was a miracle away from only barely beating a Butler team that was missing by far their best player.
 
2013-02-12 06:47:58 PM  
Gonzaga is also delicious when crumbled over Spinach salad.
 
2013-02-12 07:55:10 PM  

calm like a bomb: This far into a college basketball thread and nobody has pointed out how badly Duke sucks?  You guys are slipping.


I've never seen a team back into a #1 ranking this many times in a season.
 
2013-02-12 10:04:06 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: thecpt: #4 vs #8 tonight!

Can't wait, Go Blue!



NahGonnaHappen./wouldn't be prudent at this juncture//State crushed them in the first half///Go Green!
 
2013-02-12 10:30:39 PM  

Car_Ramrod: srhp29: Car_Ramrod: Indiana stayed #1? They lost to friggin Illinois. Granted they also beat Ohio State, but OSU has lost to Illinois, so how good can they be?

/frustrated Illini fan
//can beat the big guys, can't beat the little ones

You know who else lost to Illinois?  Gonzaga.  By 11.

Ha, that's right. Back when we were foolish enough to think we deserved a national ranking. Like I said, we've won some games against very good teams, but it's what we do in between that's pathetic.

But then, Illinois was #13 and Gonzaga #10. After that game, Gonzaga dropped to #14, and Illinois went up to #10. I don't understand why Indiana is not dropping at all in the rankings because of this.


Because, Indiana. That's why.
 
2013-02-12 10:35:02 PM  

French Rage: Did Adam Morrison cry when he heard this news?


I was really hoping he would make it in the NBA. I don't know why.
 
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