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(Daily Mail)   'Co-Parent Partnerships' are just like traditional families: Couples raise a child, never have sex   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 45
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2013-02-12 07:13:49 AM
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2013-02-12 07:48:29 AM
So...just like most parents in their 40's.
 
2013-02-12 07:54:02 AM

Gulper Eel: So...just like most parents in their 40's.


Came here to say this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2013-02-12 07:57:15 AM

Gulper Eel: So...just like most parents in their 40's other married couples.


FTFY
 
2013-02-12 08:11:19 AM
So...pretty much any married couple with kids? Gotcha.

/married, with two small kids
//sigh
 
2013-02-12 08:13:09 AM
You don't even get the satisfaction of spreading your genes around for at least one more generation. What's the point?
 
2013-02-12 08:14:14 AM
However the logistics, from choosing how to conceive to the custody arrangements

Easy. Women get the kid, sue the guy for child support etc. etc.. Just like a regular marriage.
/all of the pain, none of the pleasure.
 
2013-02-12 08:16:52 AM
I don't see anything sad about it. You have two groups of people - single women and gay men - who in previous generations would have been excluded from ever raising a child. Now, they can join up and create a loving, stable home based not on society's expectations but on what would be best for the child.

How many people do you know who grew up in "normal" but miserable nuclear families?
 
2013-02-12 08:16:53 AM
Nuclear grade friend zoning...
 
2013-02-12 08:17:22 AM
our loveless sexless sham of a marriage doesn't even include kids, so we're saving money left and right.

/ not really. biatch spends it as fast as it comes in the door.
 
2013-02-12 08:18:39 AM
I've found co-sex relationships with no children to be much more fulfilling.
 
2013-02-12 08:20:23 AM

KrispyKritter: our loveless sexless sham of a marriage doesn't even include kids, so we're saving money left and right.

/ not really. biatch spends it as fast as it comes in the door.


There he is! The KK we know and love is back!
 
2013-02-12 08:22:34 AM
this sounds like a good idea.  At least better than a woman panicking about her biological timeclock getting married to whatever guy is willing after 3 months of dating, having the kid, then getting a divorce within 4 years.

/IMHO
 
2013-02-12 08:23:42 AM
their daughter, Indigo Pieke-Blue

i171.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-12 08:24:07 AM

Nogale: How many people do you know who grew up in "normal" but miserable nuclear families?


(raises hand)
 
2013-02-12 08:25:31 AM
So, in a year from now, when one of these single "co-parents" does actually meet the partner of their dreams and wants to have children with them....

Marry, have another kid, move across the country for his/her job...other co-parent is in WTF mode.


/I foresee many issues arising
 
2013-02-12 08:25:46 AM

AirForceVet: Gulper Eel: So...just like most parents in their 40's.

Came here to say this. Leaving satisfied unsatisfied.


FTFY
 
2013-02-12 08:28:19 AM

fruitloop: their daughter, Indigo Pieke-Blue

[i171.photobucket.com image 387x259]


You forgot her middle name: Violet
 
2013-02-12 08:30:19 AM
I think they managed to discover divorce without experiencing the messiness of marriage.
 
2013-02-12 08:32:05 AM
I'd like to point to a bit of hypocrisy here.

Traditionally, men become chefs but we expect housewives to cook dinner... If women can't even follow directions without getting lost why should we expect them to be able to cook? Yes I'm laying out the heavy handed misogyny here but the stereotypes proceed me. I can cook better than any of the gals I've dated and the only reason I'm going out for breakfast is that I ran out of eggs and Sam's doesn't open 'til 10am. And dammit, the breakfast I had planned is better than I could buy. fark, I'll just pay for my eggs at the regular price and come back here.

/Fluffy scrambled eggs with sauteed bell pepper and onion on a bed of spinach .
//fark your egg McDuffin
 
2013-02-12 08:35:31 AM

wildcardjack: I'd like to point to a bit of hypocrisy here.

Traditionally, men become chefs but we expect housewives to cook dinner... If women can't even follow directions without getting lost why should we expect them to be able to cook? Yes I'm laying out the heavy handed misogyny here but the stereotypes proceed me. I can cook better than any of the gals I've dated and the only reason I'm going out for breakfast is that I ran out of eggs and Sam's doesn't open 'til 10am. And dammit, the breakfast I had planned is better than I could buy. fark, I'll just pay for my eggs at the regular price and come back here.

/Fluffy scrambled eggs with sauteed bell pepper and onion on a bed of spinach .
//fark your egg McDuffin


LOL WUT
 
2013-02-12 08:38:26 AM
The guys are gay, people. They're having sex -- just not with each other.
 
2013-02-12 08:43:09 AM

Nogale: How many people do you know who grew up in "normal" but miserable nuclear families?


Me!! Pick me!!!! Pick me!!!!
 
2013-02-12 08:43:24 AM

YouPeopleAreCrazy: So, in a year from now, when one of these single "co-parents" does actually meet the partner of their dreams and wants to have children with them....

Marry, have another kid, move across the country for his/her job...other co-parent is in WTF mode.


/I foresee many issues arising


How is that any different than a couple who had kids and got divorced, and then find a new spouse who wants to have kids of their own? Custody arrangements don't just allow one parent to pick up and move with the kids unless the other parent has basically been absent anyway.
 
2013-02-12 08:54:03 AM

wildcardjack: I'd like to point to a bit of hypocrisy here.

Traditionally, men become chefs but we expect housewives to cook dinner... If women can't even follow directions without getting lost why should we expect them to be able to cook? Yes I'm laying out the heavy handed misogyny here but the stereotypes proceed me. I can cook better than any of the gals I've dated and the only reason I'm going out for breakfast is that I ran out of eggs and Sam's doesn't open 'til 10am. And dammit, the breakfast I had planned is better than I could buy. fark, I'll just pay for my eggs at the regular price and come back here.

/Fluffy scrambled eggs with sauteed bell pepper and onion on a bed of spinach .
//fark your egg McDuffin


I hear ya bro.
We find the meat and now we want to cook the meat, but the women want to go someplace else and have the meat there cooked for them by some other dude and that's, like, biatch be trampling on my manhood.
You like it so much then why don't you just go home with him then, even tho he's probably gay.
If you come here then just get away from the stove and let me handle things, cause I got this.
 
2013-02-12 08:55:11 AM
I really think humans need to stop breeding for a few decades. The tweens are humping like rabbits already and we need to slow down. The crothch fruit patch is all overgrown and choking the life and sanity out of the rest of us.

Please... Think of the children!!!
 
2013-02-12 08:56:12 AM

AirForceVet: Gulper Eel: So...just like most parents in their 40's. Came here to say this. Leaving satisfied.


That is one thing we aren't!
 
2013-02-12 08:58:14 AM
Should we plan for the increase demand for psychologist now?
 
2013-02-12 09:07:00 AM
Surely at least one of them had sex...
 
2013-02-12 09:07:15 AM

minoridiot: Should we plan for the increase demand for psychologist now?


Why?

I'm really not seeing the problem with this, or how it is any different than kids whose parents got divorced. In fact, it's probably a better arrangement than for the kids who had to watch mom and dad's relationship break down, see them fighting all the time, and end up feel betrayed when everything goes to hell before having to try and salvage what they can when the dust settles.

The parents in this case have an amicable relationship with separate but intertwined lives. Most divorcees I know are hardly amicable, especially right after the breakdown of the marriage.
 
2013-02-12 09:11:15 AM

wildcardjack: I'd like to point to a bit of hypocrisy here.

Traditionally, men become chefs but we expect housewives to cook dinner... If women can't even follow directions without getting lost why should we expect them to be able to cook? Yes I'm laying out the heavy handed misogyny here but the stereotypes proceed me. I can cook better than any of the gals I've dated and the only reason I'm going out for breakfast is that I ran out of eggs and Sam's doesn't open 'til 10am. And dammit, the breakfast I had planned is better than I could buy. fark, I'll just pay for my eggs at the regular price and come back here.

/Fluffy scrambled eggs with sauteed bell pepper and onion on a bed of spinach .
//fark your egg McDuffin


I think you're in the wrong thread...but I agree.  My wife tries to cook...but nothing ever turns out quite right.  Of course, I'll experiment now and then and sometimes end up with questionable results too, but when I want to make something right, I have a list of go-to dishes that will beat anything short of a 5-star restaurant.
 
2013-02-12 09:13:41 AM

KrispyKritter: our loveless sexless sham of a marriage doesn't even include kids, so we're saving money left and right.

/ not really. biatch spends it as fast as it comes in the door.


The hell you say? Just leave her if it sucks so bad, no kids = no baggage.
 
2013-02-12 09:20:48 AM
Bundy did it.
 
2013-02-12 09:23:01 AM
The last six years of my marriage we didn't have sex; not even once.  Even my kid was born IVF and so my genetic contribution was made via sample cup.   I never cheated, or even considered it, because I take marriage seriously.

We did finally divorce (the lack of sex underscored other issues) and I am remarried.  The new wife has a sex drive that far exceeds mine; I can't keep up with her.

Having now raised my kid in both settings I can tell you that the happier and more relaxed home for him to be in is the one where his parents are being laid on a regular basis.
 
2013-02-12 09:35:17 AM

Meethos: KrispyKritter: our loveless sexless sham of a marriage doesn't even include kids, so we're saving money left and right.

/ not really. biatch spends it as fast as it comes in the door.

The hell you say? Just leave her if it sucks so bad, no kids = no baggage.


Yeah, great idea. Give the biatch half his stuff as a thank you for years of misery
They invented the phrase Cheaper to Keep her because of states like California
 
2013-02-12 10:00:24 AM
A big part of parenting is showing your child how to love someone else and have a relationship.  It's a difficult thing to do.  Being in a relationship is hard and being a good partner is an admirable goal.  This just teaches kids one more way you don't have to be an adult.  Too self centered to maintain a relationship?  Just skip it all together instead of growing as a person.  This seems like a bad idea.  You don't make it to your forties without finding a partner because you're a good person.  You make it that far because you're broken.  Something is wrong with you and it's probably best you don't pass that on to children.  Gay people at least have an excuse of societal bigotry messing up their community.  But the 'traditional family' people have so poisoned the well with their hate speech against gay people that we can't have the discussion.
 
2013-02-12 12:39:36 PM

Nogale: I don't see anything sad about it. You have two groups of people - single women and gay men - who in previous generations would have been excluded from ever raising a child. Now, they can join up and create a loving, stable home based not on society's expectations but on what would be best for the child.

How many people do you know who grew up in "normal" but miserable nuclear families?


Every family is miserable. It's a fact of life-- people tire of each other and need time alone. Families do not allow for
This, so people take their frustrations out on each other. Of course it's also human nature to remember good times more strongly.

I can't imagine these families will be any less messed up.
 
2013-02-12 02:06:58 PM
I stayed for the kids. That is, until my son (eight, at the time) asked me, "Daddy, why do you look so sad all the time?" and "How come mommy is always telling you what to do but I never see you tell her what to do?"

It was then I knew that modeling "Unhappy in a shiatty Marriage to a Joyless, Controlling Coont" was not in the best interest of my children.

My children and I are much happier with the new Mrs. Fistfark. The ex-wife remains a bitter, joyless, controlling coont.
 
2013-02-12 02:14:42 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: I stayed for the kids. That is, until my son (eight, at the time) asked me, "Daddy, why do you look so sad all the time?" and "How come mommy is always telling you what to do but I never see you tell her what to do?"

It was then I knew that modeling "Unhappy in a shiatty Marriage to a Joyless, Controlling Coont" was not in the best interest of my children.

My children and I are much happier with the new Mrs. Fistfark. The ex-wife remains a bitter, joyless, controlling coont.


Oh, and as it is relevant to the sexless parents issue: after my second child was born the sex went from monthly to quarterly to annual to none. For the last two years of the marriage there wasn't even kissing or a smile and "hi, glad to see you", just a to-do list and some condescending remark because I'd failed to decode some ambiguous message in the twenty daily emails she'd send.
 
2013-02-12 04:42:41 PM
Yeah, it's super sad for children to have more than one person responsible for their needs. We should end this practice immediately and get those children back into isolated single-parent situations before they start learning things like cooperative community childrearing.
 
2013-02-12 07:12:21 PM

miscreant: How is that any different than a couple who had kids and got divorced, and then find a new spouse who wants to have kids of their own? Custody arrangements don't just allow one parent to pick up and move with the kids unless the other parent has basically been absent anyway.


I see how it is similar, but in the married/kid/divorced/new spouse timeline, your new spouse knows that you had a relationship with the previous person. In this instance, the only 'relationship' is through the child/shared parenting.

It would be a very understanding dude that would subjugate his career choices to some other guy she was never married to.
 
2013-02-12 09:23:29 PM

Champion of the Sun: A big part of parenting is showing your child how to love someone else and have a relationship.  It's a difficult thing to do.  Being in a relationship is hard and being a good partner is an admirable goal.  This just teaches kids one more way you don't have to be an adult.  Too self centered to maintain a relationship?  Just skip it all together instead of growing as a person.  This seems like a bad idea.  You don't make it to your forties without finding a partner because you're a good person.  You make it that far because you're broken.  Something is wrong with you and it's probably best you don't pass that on to children.  Gay people at least have an excuse of societal bigotry messing up their community.  But the 'traditional family' people have so poisoned the well with their hate speech against gay people that we can't have the discussion.


Lots of people who have children while in relationships wind up single at some point while still raising said children.  Are they broken as well?
 
2013-02-12 10:39:06 PM
The My Little

Lots of people who have children while in relationships

 wind up single at some point while still raising said children.  Are they broken as well?


many of them, but not nearly all the like the people who are incapable of establishing a relationship.  It's not too much to ask that someone be successful at a voluntary relationship where you're free to leave whenever before they establish a relationship with a child they're stuck with for eighteen years.

And a huge part of our problem as a society is that assholes who shouldn't be with their partner have kids with them.  Miserable people generally raise miserable kids. If you're not adult enough to start and maintain a relationship with someone, including picking someone who is also adult enough to do the same, you aren't adult enough to raise a kid.
 
2013-02-13 02:49:24 PM
The article didn't mention where that baby came from.
Sperm donor (the australian guy's? a random?)
the previous guy who cheated on her?
 
2013-02-13 08:14:36 PM
I'm surprised at the negativity here. Co-parenting sounds like a good idea, the man in the article is gay so he's not going to marry a woman in any case, and the woman never found anyone she liked well enough to marry, which makes it unlikely that's she'll find someone in the next 18 years anyway. I've heard of similar arraignments and they usually work out fairly well. Certainly better than most divorces where there is shared custody. The child gets two parents who work together to care for them, without the expectation that Mom and Dad are going to stay together forever. There's no trauma of separation like there is in a divorce. It's win/win.
 
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