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(Film.com)   The Top 50 Movies Never Nominated For Best Picture at the Oscars. See where The Empire Strikes Back, Toy Story, and Stand by Me ended up   (film.com ) divider line
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2013-02-12 07:30:43 AM  
4 votes:
Kill Bill was utter dreck and was rightfully snubbed.
2013-02-12 03:28:59 AM  
3 votes:
collider.com
2013-02-11 10:15:26 PM  
3 votes:
content9.flixster.com
Malkovich, Malkovich?
www.soundonsight.org
2013-02-12 08:47:31 AM  
2 votes:
I like Bill Simmons' idea of waiting five years before nominating the films, like hall of fame inductions. So this year we'd be looking at the movies of 2008.
2013-02-12 08:11:58 AM  
2 votes:

Fluorescent Testicle: So, apparently, The Lion King was never nominated. I know it's a children's movie and all, but come on, it's The friggin' Lion King.

Decent list, though.



1994 was a crowded year for nominations. The bigger crime is that Forrest Gump beat Shawshank and Pulp Fiction.
2013-02-12 07:40:43 AM  
2 votes:
Add "Gettysburg" (1993).  Not just missing out on the best film, it was nominated in NO categories.  Not best script for the adaptation of Michael Shaara's "The Killer Angels," or best direction, or for the stunning score, or for performances by either Jeff Daniels (Col. Joshua Chamberlain) or Martin Sheen (Gen. Robert E. Lee), or for best costuming.  I'd also have given it best cinematography for the shots of the artillery fire and Pickett's Charge because of the way that they sweep the field.

Sheen was so good in his role that the thousands of Civil War re-enactors, who take so much pride in the authenticity of their uniforms, camp gear and rifles, was greeted with "Martin! Martin! Martin!" as he rides up.  In the movie, they use the scene but change the audio so that they're chanting, "Lee! Lee! Lee!"
2013-02-11 10:21:05 PM  
2 votes:

jaylectricity: Why didn't you like the only comic book movie I've ever liked?


I enjoyed it too, but I didn't think it was all that special. It was above average but not worthy of the hype.

See, the problem is the plot suffered from one fatal flaw: The Joker. He's too powerful.

Here's a guy that, despite being a psychotic madman who employs schizophrenics (who are apparently expendable and therefore possess no unique skills or talents), has advanced knowledge and skillset in everything demanded by the plot from logistics, project management, construction, engineering, explosives and detonation, and civil planning.

He has friends, contacts and confidants everywhere (but he doesn't use the mob because they hate him too -- he robbed then burnt all their money), he is able to procure and execute diabolical schemes in a matter of days that would take any competent team of professional engineers weeks to prepare. He can purchase or obtain any illegal weapon, controlled substance or illicit chemical while evading detection from the authorities who closely monitor those things (and somehow smuggle them in the diciest of places like warehouses, boats, or the desk drawer of a district attorney). He has no problem getting ahold of anything that his plans require, like a fleet of busses to pull off a bank robbery or a dozen security guard uniforms to blend into a parade. And he somehow procures these things under the noses of everybody.

AND he has the magical superpower known as "off-screen teleportation", meaning that if he's not on camera, he is simultaneously nowhere and anywhere -- no home, no job, no physical place he always hangs out. No locked door, fence, building or secure area is safe from him -- he always magically finds a way in. He's always one step ahead of the good guys and immune to being tracked, recorded or anticipated. Nothing is ever learned about or from him while he is in this state of superposition yet he is apparently a relentless busybody who moves with genius precision to plan, construct, engineer and execute an immense array of impressive stunts and NO ONE EVER farkING NOTICES HIM DOING THIS.

(meanwhile, Batman can't even make a custom car in his own garage without someone from his own company finding out)

The Joker dominates the film to such an extent that he is essentially a villain Mary Sue. He has no limitations, no obstacles, and no complications. He is capable of anything. If the story needs him to do something to the city, its innocent civilians, or any of the good guys including Batman, he will succeed in that purpose because fark you, the Joker is badass. Even when he's captured, it's all portrayed as being part of his plan because no one is in control of anything except him. He has contingencies for everything (because he managed to surgically put a bomb inside a man just in case something like this would happen).

It didn't make the movie fun to watch. It made him overpowered in too many areas and he never struggled with any of the plot points. Oh, wait. A detonator didn't go off once, but he jiggled it and it worked again. That was the only hiccup we ever saw in any of his plans. Everything he did was flawless and perfect.

I mean, if he did one implausible thing in the movie, I can gloss over that. Even if he did two or three, it's easy to overlook. But this guy was pulling crazy shiat out of his ass every five minutes, each with many variables and moving parts and sequences involved, and they all went off perfect, on time, without a hitch. There's at least two dozen "how did he do that"s in the movie, and it gets really annoying seeing his plans continuously pave off time after time.

I think the biggest one was when he crashes the Penthouse party. This is a fundraising gala full of the richest and most powerful people in Gotham, and he somehow got passed the lobby guards and up 30+ flights of keyfob/password-locked floors and just waltzes right in. It would be like a terrorist group crashing a Koch Bros. Teaparty Convention. Those things are crawling with security, you can't get within 500 feet of the building.

And he crashes the mob boss meeting too. How did he know it was there? How did he get through the locked doors? How did he evade security? He never seems to have a problem with these simple logistics.

And how did he know Harvey and Rachel were getting married? They didn't tell anyone but each other. Yet he teases Batman with this info. Where did he get this intelligence from? It's amazing how he always knows everything about everyone and what's going on at all times.

I can only conclude that the Joker actually has a super power. He is a teleporter.

/rant over
2013-02-11 08:37:32 PM  
2 votes:
Back to the Future?

Really?

A good enough film for its time, but hardly Best Picture material.
2013-02-11 08:28:52 PM  
2 votes:
I don't DO the Oscars anymore. Whoopi Goldberg got robbed when she didn't win best actress in The Color Purple. That movie should've cleaned up at the awards that year. It got ELEVEN nominations and not a single win.
2013-02-12 08:54:44 PM  
1 vote:

Gleeman: frepnog: IC Stars: John Buck 41: That's not a half bad list, with the exception of 35. Blade Runner

I sincerely don't get the love for this movie.

Fine. I seriously don't get why some people don't get it.

Blade Runner is a gorgeous movie that inspired the sci-fi look of countless films. It is also boring and almost insufferable to watch, the voiceover is boring and monotonous, the villian bland and pointess, the concept ridiculous (who cares if robots live longer) and it is simply not the great film that avid fans would try and have you believe. I am a huge sci-fi fan. I love Harrison Ford as an actor and have seen most of his films. Ridley Scott tends to make incredible films. And yet the sum total of Blade Runner is a pretty but mostly boring-to-tears movie that movie-goers avoided and critics destroyed. It has become a cult classic and is highly rated, but most people that watch that movie either can't finish it or watch all of it and hate it.

Sorry.

Which cut are you referring to? Because there's quite a difference.



In all fairness, the theatrical cut is the one which would have been nominated had the academy chosen to nominate it, so it's a fair target for criticism even though it's generally recognized as the crappiest cut of them all.

Frepnog, if you're still around, I'd highly suggest watching one of the Final Cut instead. The voiceover work in the original does wonders to destroy the mood of the film. However, asking "who cares if robots live longer" should yield the immediate answer "the robots themselves." This is not a minor plot point, it's the point of the entire movie; and all of Roy's actions during the movie (and especially the last fight) were one last, desperate, attempt to prove that he's more than just a malfunctioning machine. And it works, too. Roy and Rachel's experiences with Deckard, one of the best replicant-hunters alive, ultimately convince Deckard to take Rachel under his protection.
2013-02-12 04:12:13 PM  
1 vote:

frepnog: IC Stars: John Buck 41: That's not a half bad list, with the exception of 35.  Blade Runner

I sincerely don't get the love for this movie.

Fine. I seriously don't get why some people don't get it.

Blade Runner is a gorgeous movie that inspired the sci-fi look of countless films.  It is also boring and almost insufferable to watch, the voiceover is boring and monotonous, the villian bland and pointess, the concept ridiculous (who cares if robots live longer) and it is simply not the great film that avid fans would try and have you believe.  I am a huge sci-fi fan.  I love Harrison Ford as an actor and have seen most of his films.  Ridley Scott tends to make incredible films.  And yet the sum total of Blade Runner is a pretty but mostly boring-to-tears movie that movie-goers avoided and critics destroyed.  It has become a cult classic and is highly rated, but most people that watch that movie either can't finish it or watch all of it and hate it.

Sorry.


Which cut are you referring to? Because there's quite a difference.
2013-02-12 01:03:41 PM  
1 vote:

IC Stars: John Buck 41: That's not a half bad list, with the exception of 35.  Blade Runner

I sincerely don't get the love for this movie.

Fine. I seriously don't get why some people don't get it.


Blade Runner is a gorgeous movie that inspired the sci-fi look of countless films.  It is also boring and almost insufferable to watch, the voiceover is boring and monotonous, the villian bland and pointess, the concept ridiculous (who cares if robots live longer) and it is simply not the great film that avid fans would try and have you believe.  I am a huge sci-fi fan.  I love Harrison Ford as an actor and have seen most of his films.  Ridley Scott tends to make incredible films.  And yet the sum total of Blade Runner is a pretty but mostly boring-to-tears movie that movie-goers avoided and critics destroyed.  It has become a cult classic and is highly rated, but most people that watch that movie either can't finish it or watch all of it and hate it.

Sorry.
2013-02-12 10:23:11 AM  
1 vote:

JohnHall: Interesting. I loved 25th hour. One of my favorites, but the angry NY scene (Ed Norton telling all the groups to fark you) was too similar to the angry New Yorkers scene from "Do The Right Thing". Once thing I got out of the list, the author likes Spike Lee. As there were 3 Spike Lee moves listed.

I looked up Spike Lee in IMDB and I actually forget that Spike Lee really is a great director and has made a lot of great movies. Do the Right Thing, 25th Hour, Malcom X, Inside Man and to a lesser extent Bamboozled, He Got Game, Crooklyn and Summer of Sam. It's actually pretty stunning that he's never been nominated for a Best Director Oscar..


something about the characters he writes makes me not like his movies, and then I find out how much of an a-hole he is in real life (although I try not to let that effect how I see his work).  His characters just wreak of how he sees the world full of people who are black and white on the issue of race (pun kind of intended).  I understand that he is like a love him or hate him kind of guy, so you're onto something that the author included 3 of his movies.

I completely stopped watching his work after Miracle at Santa Anna.  Oh my gawd that thing was awful.
2013-02-12 10:14:52 AM  
1 vote:
stoli n coke:
As for best picture in 2008, I'd have to go with The Wrestler. Rourke was flat-out robbed.

This.
2013-02-12 09:04:46 AM  
1 vote:
Stand By Me (1986)

Nominated that year for Best Picture:
Platoon
Children of a Lesser God
Room With A View
The Mission
Hannah and her Sisters


Sorry, I'm not going to be sad Stand By Me wasn't up for it.  That's a really, really strong list.
2013-02-12 08:52:20 AM  
1 vote:
CIty of God is absolutely AMAZING and needs to be much, much higher on this list. It was listed as the #6 best movie of all time on IMDB at one point, if I remember correctly. Just watched it last Friday night, and I forgot how incredible the cinematography, music, and intertwining storyline really is. It's an absolutely incredible movie based on a true story.

Pan's Labyrinth is also incredibly good, and deserves much more praise than it gets. I try to watch it at least once a year, if not more. There's no other movie that has made me want to see a director's movie catalog moreso than this one. Unfortunately, I haven't seen many of Del Toro's other movies.
2013-02-12 08:18:08 AM  
1 vote:
Hollywood award ceremonies in general are rigged and worthless. I swore off the Emmys forever when Benedict Cumberbatch lost to Kevin Costner for best actor. Are you KIDDING me??? The best Sherlock in decades couldn't beat a man who can't find an acting job unless he directs the movie himself...ridiculous.
2013-02-12 04:42:48 AM  
1 vote:

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't DO the Oscars anymore. Whoopi Goldberg got robbed when she didn't win best actress in The Color Purple. That movie should've cleaned up at the awards that year. It got ELEVEN nominations and not a single win.


You want robbed? How about Mickey Rourke losing to Sean Penn in 2009? It was horrible to see Rourke lose when he should have won yet lost to Academy politics, and Penn didn't even have a speech prepared ahead of time because he thought he wasn't going to win.
2013-02-12 03:59:47 AM  
1 vote:
So, apparently, The Lion King was never nominated. I know it's a children's movie and all, but come on, it's The friggin' Lion King.

Decent list, though.
2013-02-12 03:48:04 AM  
1 vote:
Not a bad list.

5 snubs on there that gave me the biggest "WTF were they thinking?" moments would be His Girl Friday, Memento, Princess Bride, Usual Suspects and Blade Runner.

Seriously good movies with massive replayability.
2013-02-12 03:46:29 AM  
1 vote:
cmunic8r99:

Good enough to have been nominated, but there's no way it would have won. The Color Purple should have beaten Out of Africa anyway.

You do realize why The Color Purple was shut out in '85 don't you? What Speilburg's rep was at the time? Today, he would be considered another Micheal Bay. Nobody took his ass seriously as a "serious" director at the time.
2013-02-12 03:41:25 AM  
1 vote:
The Hitchcock masterpieces Rear Window, North by Northwest and Vertigo and Psycho not getting the best picture noms is a gawddarned travesty!

The fact Hitchcock never even won a Oscar still gives the academy awards a deep dark scar that is still there to this day
2013-02-12 12:48:40 AM  
1 vote:
And The Princess Bride has become part of our culture, and no Oscar to be had. Perhaps the Academy should have an oops category.
2013-02-11 11:47:45 PM  
1 vote:
They lost me right away on Wall-E. Not only should it have been MUCH higher on the list, but the author's description of Spirited Away as its only competition in the "best animated film of the past 25 years" argument is ludicrous.

The Iron Giant
How To Train Your Dragon
(although I don't think it's aging well -- I saw it on cable and I didn't enjoy it as much as I did in the theater)
Akira and Metropolis for your other Japanese entries
Ratatouille is a dark horse

FFS, the past 25 years includes the entire Disney renaissance.
2013-02-11 11:44:55 PM  
1 vote:

nmrsnr: ecmoRandomNumbers: No. And Jim Carrey should be banned by federal law from doing dramatic roles.

The Truman Show was a decent movie. But it's the exception that proves the rule.


how can an exception prove a rule?

that really is a stupid saying.

if anything, it invalidates the rule.
2013-02-11 10:32:03 PM  
1 vote:

SJKebab: The rubber face buffoonery gets stale pretty quickly.


I agree, I didn't say I liked his comedic roles much better, but he makes a good one every now and again (the Mask, Liar Liar, Bruce Almighty) .

/I can only think of those two roles off the top of my head, but still...

The Majestic, The Number 23 (anyone remember that piece of garbage?), and Man on the Moon are ones I can think of off the top of my head.
2013-02-11 10:26:10 PM  
1 vote:

Ishkur: /rant over


Well, I see you've put a lot of thought into this. Hopefully you have found an outlet for your energy besides a random Fark post.
2013-02-11 10:20:22 PM  
1 vote:

nmrsnr: ecmoRandomNumbers: No. And Jim Carrey should be banned by federal law from doing dramatic roles.

The Truman Show was a decent movie. But it's the exception that proves the rule.


I'm probably going to cop a lot of flak for this, but I prefer him in dramatic roles compared to his comedic ones.  The rubber face buffoonery gets stale pretty quickly.

/I can only think of those two roles off the top of my head, but still...
2013-02-11 09:38:24 PM  
1 vote:

ecmoRandomNumbers: No. And Jim Carrey should be banned by federal law from doing dramatic roles.


The Truman Show was a decent movie. But it's the exception that proves the rule.
2013-02-11 09:35:16 PM  
1 vote:

nmrsnr: Cyberluddite: 27. "Cinema Paradiso" (1988)Definitely.  This might even be on my own personal list of the top 10 best movies of my lifetime.  On the other hand:

Really? Cineman Paradiso was cute and heartwarming, but, like 8 1/2, it felt too much like film-making wankery. I don't know, maybe it's just that I don't like when film makers make movies about how amazing movies are, but I prefer a movie like Hugo, which shows it's love of film and film-making, without being about films and film-making.

47. "Bringing Up Baby" (1938) - I really, really dislike this movie.

28. "The Usual Suspects" (1995) - Definitely belongs on the list

24. "City of God" (2002) - Easily the best movie on this list, IMO

1. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004) - Am I the only person on Earth who didn't really like this movie?


No. And Jim Carrey should be banned by federal law from doing dramatic roles.
2013-02-11 09:08:28 PM  
1 vote:
Hey look, it's another movie list from people who don't understand why people don't like the things they like.
2013-02-11 09:05:53 PM  
1 vote:
"Bringing Up Baby" is easily in my Top 10 favorite movies.
2013-02-11 08:26:59 PM  
1 vote:
27. "Cinema Paradiso" (1988)
Definitely.  This might even be on my own personal list of the top 10 best movies of my lifetime.  On the other hand:

20. "The Royal Tenenbaums" (2001)
Uh, no. Just no.
2013-02-11 08:07:35 PM  
1 vote:
Boogie Nights should be in the top 10.
 
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