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2013-02-12 03:28:46 AM
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2013-02-12 03:28:59 AM
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2013-02-12 03:37:04 AM

Popcorn Johnny: Boogie Nights should be in the top 10.


Zuerste you are an idiot
Second this list is fail
Third I have been trolled hard
 
2013-02-12 03:41:25 AM
The Hitchcock masterpieces Rear Window, North by Northwest and Vertigo and Psycho not getting the best picture noms is a gawddarned travesty!

The fact Hitchcock never even won a Oscar still gives the academy awards a deep dark scar that is still there to this day
 
2013-02-12 03:46:29 AM
cmunic8r99:

Good enough to have been nominated, but there's no way it would have won. The Color Purple should have beaten Out of Africa anyway.

You do realize why The Color Purple was shut out in '85 don't you? What Speilburg's rep was at the time? Today, he would be considered another Micheal Bay. Nobody took his ass seriously as a "serious" director at the time.
 
2013-02-12 03:48:04 AM
Not a bad list.

5 snubs on there that gave me the biggest "WTF were they thinking?" moments would be His Girl Friday, Memento, Princess Bride, Usual Suspects and Blade Runner.

Seriously good movies with massive replayability.
 
2013-02-12 03:51:02 AM

Ishkur: Darth_Lukecash: Joker never Batman about Rachel and Harvey marriage plan, but they did know Rachel and Harvey were lovers. In fact, the Joker thought Harvey was Batman the way he threw himself after Rachel getting pushed out of the window. The Joker was mocking Batman for getting between Harvey and Rachel as lovers...not that they were going to get married.

Joker : Choose between one life or the other. Your friend the district attorney or his blushing bride-to-be.


There's several explanations, but the most likely is that the Joker was in full taunting mode and got lucky.  He used a lot of terms, like "bunny" and "Did Harvey know..." that was showing that Batman was clueless.  He probably didn't even know he was hitting close to the mark.

Harvey popped the question at the fundraiser.  She didn't even accept until right before she died.  So even SHE didn't know she was going to accept it at that point.

The Joker was clearly just aggravating Batman because he knew it was a sore spot,  and making a direct hit even knowing it was true.
 
2013-02-12 03:59:47 AM
So, apparently, The Lion King was never nominated. I know it's a children's movie and all, but come on, it's The friggin' Lion King.

Decent list, though.
 
2013-02-12 04:01:05 AM

Darth_Lukecash: There's several explanations, but the most likely is that the Joker was in full taunting mode and got lucky


HE'S LUCKY 47 TIMES IN THE MOVIE!!1

Can't he just express anything resembling a somewhat lack of perfect knowledge and understanding of every contingency and outcome, just once?

He's written as a farking god and it makes watching his ludicrous plans succeed thoroughly unenjoyable.
 
2013-02-12 04:06:48 AM

nmrsnr: 1. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004) - Am I the only person on Earth who didn't really like this movie?


Nope, I'm with you as well.  Not that I thought it was bad initially, it was just a boringly mediocre movie based off of what could have been a pretty interesting, if already well-explored premise common in science fiction literature that hadn't actually be brought to the big screen before (outside of Total Recall, which had a different tone entirely).

And, yeah, the main problem was that it was  tragically miscast, the whole plot was based on the characters being sympathetic and relatable and their romance being actually relatively deep and meaningful and, well,  mature.  If it's twee preteen manic pixie dream girl bullshiat with a painfully obvious transitory nature, there's not really any tragedy in the premise, it's just a pair of farking douchebags ending their obviously-temporary-to-everyone-but-them novelty-based worthless cutesy relationship in a slightly more thorough manner than normally possible.

Basically, being even slightly hip or "quirky" was an absolute death sentence to the basic premise being anything but farking retarded.  You cannot,  cannot got all 500 days of Summer or Garden State on that shiat, you have to draw on real people based big-boy experience and give us something that we, as an audience, feel is truly worth preserving.  They're damned actors and screenwriters, surely they have enough divorces between them to give us a bit more "Tangled up in Blue" and a bit less "When I Saw Her Standing There."

//But, it's a Kaufman flick, so it gets a free +30% or so on Rotten Tomatoes because all film critics are film school dropouts that live in the hope of one day licking his balls.
//I say this as someone that has no problem with absurd wish-fulfillment crap in movies, just... don't act like I'm supposed to treat your movie like srs bzns with srs themes if that's what they are.  By that logic The Raid: Redemption deserves best picture for all time ever.  Though that had a better-developed relationship subplot, too, come to think of it...
//If someone has to look up one of the film references in this post, I have done my job as a film geek (admittedly a little more pop than what I usually go for, but still).  If any of them have to look up the music references I just am not sure I want to live on this planet anymore.
 
2013-02-12 04:14:48 AM
I actually thought that list was pretty spot on until number 1. Eternal Sunshine is what 500 days of summer is going to be in 10 years.

The Shining should really have been on the list and Harry Potter 7.2 should have come off. I would accept the argument that it should have at least gotten a placeholder nomination if it was a truly good movie on it's own rights, but it's great strength was only that it paid off the book. It wasn't even the best movie in the series.

Of course, neither was Return of the King.
 
2013-02-12 04:39:40 AM
Whenever it comes to a movie like this I always have to go with "The Sweet Hereafter."  I can't think of any movie that works as well at leaving a lasting impact on those that see it.
 
2013-02-12 04:42:48 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't DO the Oscars anymore. Whoopi Goldberg got robbed when she didn't win best actress in The Color Purple. That movie should've cleaned up at the awards that year. It got ELEVEN nominations and not a single win.


You want robbed? How about Mickey Rourke losing to Sean Penn in 2009? It was horrible to see Rourke lose when he should have won yet lost to Academy politics, and Penn didn't even have a speech prepared ahead of time because he thought he wasn't going to win.
 
2013-02-12 05:07:20 AM
"I personally consider this the most unconscionable snub of the entire list"


Then why did you put it dead-last?
 
2013-02-12 05:26:19 AM
Maybe if they had ten nominees like they do now, they would have been nominated.  Would that make you feel better, Grandpa?
 
2013-02-12 06:20:39 AM

Ishkur: Darth_Lukecash: There's several explanations, but the most likely is that the Joker was in full taunting mode and got lucky

HE'S LUCKY 47 TIMES IN THE MOVIE!!1

Can't he just express anything resembling a somewhat lack of perfect knowledge and understanding of every contingency and outcome, just once?

He's written as a farking god and it makes watching his ludicrous plans succeed thoroughly unenjoyable.




I think you simultaneously over and under estimate the Joker. While I don't expect I will change your viewpoint, I will offer you this counterpoint all the same.

The Joker succeeds because he does only what is within his power. Granted his power/reach/authority seems extreme, but only when measured against the thorough incompetence of society as whole. We don't expect much, and are therefore impressed when we see much, and our brains can't handle the juxtaposition.

The Joker is a psychopathic, ADD Mensa applicant. If he hands out small jobs to people, and is able to adequately track that, things will always be precisely where he expects. It's not unrealistic, it's just abnormal for us.
 
2013-02-12 07:16:46 AM
The lack of love for Eternal Sunshine is disturbing.  Depressing, in fact.
 
2013-02-12 07:18:32 AM
could swear this is a repeat, but whatever...

as to topic
good that link mentions older films
good that link mentions foreign films


really really weird that link doesn't mention old foreign films.
tons of years from 1920-1960 should have easily had foreign films win best picture
 
2013-02-12 07:30:43 AM
Kill Bill was utter dreck and was rightfully snubbed.
 
2013-02-12 07:31:57 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I don't DO the Oscars anymore. Whoopi Goldberg got robbed when she didn't win best actress in The Color Purple. That movie should've cleaned up at the awards that year. It got ELEVEN nominations and not a single win.


Was she denied an "Oscar Oscar?"

/Piss on Whoopi
 
2013-02-12 07:33:56 AM
There are a lot in that list that I don't think should've ever had a nomination, but then there are quite a few that should've.

Surprised to see The Princess Bride in that list. Sure, it's a good movie, but why anyone would think it deserved a nomination is beyond me.
 
2013-02-12 07:36:15 AM

nmrsnr: 1. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004) - Am I the only person on Earth who didn't really like this movie?


That movie was an odd one.  It's one of those movies I really liked a lot, but would NEVER EVER EVER see again.  It's hard to describe.
 
2013-02-12 07:40:43 AM
Add "Gettysburg" (1993).  Not just missing out on the best film, it was nominated in NO categories.  Not best script for the adaptation of Michael Shaara's "The Killer Angels," or best direction, or for the stunning score, or for performances by either Jeff Daniels (Col. Joshua Chamberlain) or Martin Sheen (Gen. Robert E. Lee), or for best costuming.  I'd also have given it best cinematography for the shots of the artillery fire and Pickett's Charge because of the way that they sweep the field.

Sheen was so good in his role that the thousands of Civil War re-enactors, who take so much pride in the authenticity of their uniforms, camp gear and rifles, was greeted with "Martin! Martin! Martin!" as he rides up.  In the movie, they use the scene but change the audio so that they're chanting, "Lee! Lee! Lee!"
 
2013-02-12 07:41:52 AM
What is just about any Akira Kurosawa film.
 
2013-02-12 07:49:14 AM
Time is a better judge than the academy.

Best picture 1980 "Kramer vs Kramer" WTF is that about?

1986, "Out of Africa" Ain't seen that.

1995, "Forest Gump" okay, that one is better than Toy Story.

I'd rather have a movie that works 30 years later than an award and obscurity.
 
2013-02-12 07:55:54 AM

Ishkur: I can only conclude that the Joker actually has a super power. He is a teleporter.

/rant over


Now add a *bamf* ending and you're golden with that treatise.
 
2013-02-12 08:11:58 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: So, apparently, The Lion King was never nominated. I know it's a children's movie and all, but come on, it's The friggin' Lion King.

Decent list, though.



1994 was a crowded year for nominations. The bigger crime is that Forrest Gump beat Shawshank and Pulp Fiction.
 
2013-02-12 08:18:08 AM
Hollywood award ceremonies in general are rigged and worthless. I swore off the Emmys forever when Benedict Cumberbatch lost to Kevin Costner for best actor. Are you KIDDING me??? The best Sherlock in decades couldn't beat a man who can't find an acting job unless he directs the movie himself...ridiculous.
 
2013-02-12 08:24:40 AM

stoli n coke: Fluorescent Testicle: So, apparently, The Lion King was never nominated. I know it's a children's movie and all, but come on, it's The friggin' Lion King.

Decent list, though.


1994 was a crowded year for nominations. The bigger crime is that Forrest Gump beat Shawshank and Pulp Fiction.


or that neither Red nor White were nominated....
 
2013-02-12 08:33:40 AM
List sucks without this

ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2013-02-12 08:37:24 AM
2. 
One of cinema's cruel history lessons is this: Alfred Hitchcock never won a Best Director Oscar, and his best films never even scraped up a Best Picture. Yes, that includes "Vertigo." Now one of the most acclaimed, worshipped, studied and referenced films of all time, "Vertigo" was weaker in Oscar's eyes than "Gigi." While both films will give you nightmares ("Thank Heaven For Little Girls," anyone?), "Vertigo" remains one of the most chilling, unsettling, and original films of any given year. Whenever you get flustered that a wild and original film dodged "Best Picture," remember "Vertigo" did too, and how little it all matters.- E.R.


Of course when Vertigo first came out, the critics didn't like it.  It took a few years for people to love it.
 
2013-02-12 08:45:46 AM

wildcardjack: Time is a better judge than the academy.

Best picture 1980 "Kramer vs Kramer" WTF is that about?

1986, "Out of Africa" Ain't seen that.

1995, "Forest Gump" okay, that one is better than Toy Story.

I'd rather have a movie that works 30 years later than an award and obscurity.

 I don't know...I think that there are plenty of movies that are "known" 30 years later, but they don't really deserve an award.


But yeah, that's a "problem" with the Academy Awards...the award isn't necessarily about "the movies that will become classics or most quotable in years to come." A large chunk of the award is the backroom process of making a movie and the logistics of it, and taking certain risks (either finanicially, impossible-to-film-ily, or storywise) that are known from the insider's perspective. Also, there is a certain amount of "awarding those that have deserved it in the past, but have never gotten an award", even though those wind up in other categories (Paul Newman for "The Color of Money" being a prime example).

"Return of the King" wasn't awarded based on the merits of that movie alone, it was awarded because New Line took a freakin' huge risk, bankrolling and filming all three movies at once on a story that for the longest time Hollywood said was un-filmable; and could've ruined the company if they didn't become hits.

Also, when viewing things through the "how hard are the logistics" window, I think that this is what makes period pieces ripe for academy awards. The Artist, while kind of gimmicky, is an amazing work of capturing the look of  film techniques from the 20's. The attention to detail in that movie from a historical point is fascinating.

I think that when you look at the early 80's award-winners, what you are looking at is the industry fighting against "summer blockbuster" issue that had suddenly become rampant with the advent of "Star Wars" and "Planet of the Ape" movies. The 70's were this time where "good movies" were created to be "art" (even though I have to laugh when I see that Towering Inferno and Airport were up for awards). And now the industry was losing the "art" race to a bunch of movies that were putting in laser beams special effects. And so the industry was happy to award movies that were quieter, with popular actors, at the time.

Anyway, based on this, (and because the last two years to gave the award to smaller movies), I would expect "Les Miserable" to win this year. It was popular enough with critics and audiences, but mostly based on the backroom logistics of filming it, it's an impressive amount of filmaking. It's a period piece, it was big and hard to film (another one of those "damn we really need to make a movie out of this, but it seems impossible to do" projects that's been floating around Hollywood for 25 years), and they created a whole new way to film musicals (recording the singing live while being filmed, and then scoring the music afterwards to match the performance).
 
2013-02-12 08:47:31 AM
I like Bill Simmons' idea of waiting five years before nominating the films, like hall of fame inductions. So this year we'd be looking at the movies of 2008.
 
2013-02-12 08:52:20 AM
CIty of God is absolutely AMAZING and needs to be much, much higher on this list. It was listed as the #6 best movie of all time on IMDB at one point, if I remember correctly. Just watched it last Friday night, and I forgot how incredible the cinematography, music, and intertwining storyline really is. It's an absolutely incredible movie based on a true story.

Pan's Labyrinth is also incredibly good, and deserves much more praise than it gets. I try to watch it at least once a year, if not more. There's no other movie that has made me want to see a director's movie catalog moreso than this one. Unfortunately, I haven't seen many of Del Toro's other movies.
 
2013-02-12 08:53:49 AM
Also, WTF IMDB? You need to pay to see the listing of top movies and a ton of other stuff now?

$16 a month??? Are you f*cking kidding me?
 
2013-02-12 08:55:39 AM

rbaron71: I like Bill Simmons' idea of waiting five years before nominating the films, like hall of fame inductions. So this year we'd be looking at the movies of 2008.


Slum-dog Millionaire
The Wrestler
Wall-E
Gran Torino
Tropic Thunder
 
2013-02-12 09:02:30 AM

snowshovel: I think that when you look at the early 80's award-winners, what you are looking at is the industry fighting against "summer blockbuster" issue that had suddenly become rampant


My point is that most movies fall into obscurity and the $5 bin at WalMart within a few years and no one loves them anymore. But Star Wars, Toy Story, Forest Gump, Stand By Me are all movies that have remained on the full price shelf. Kramer Vs Kramer is available for free on Amazon Prime.
 
2013-02-12 09:04:46 AM
Stand By Me (1986)

Nominated that year for Best Picture:
Platoon
Children of a Lesser God
Room With A View
The Mission
Hannah and her Sisters


Sorry, I'm not going to be sad Stand By Me wasn't up for it.  That's a really, really strong list.
 
2013-02-12 09:05:48 AM
Whoever wrote this put together a decent list, but some of their facts are just plain wrong.  Brad Pitt's first snub was 1995 with se7en, not 1999 with fight club.

The only inclusion I truly hate is 25th hour.  It was just a guy talking about anal rape for 2 hours, and whats with Spike Lee, Ed Norton, and prison rape?  Was American History X not enough?  I don't get the love for Walle either, but I don't hate it.

Anyways Children of Men, City of God, Pan's, are great to put on there but he shouldn't have ranked them.
 
2013-02-12 09:07:04 AM

Broktun: Slum-dog Millionaire


YOU GET THE FARK OUT OF HERE RIGHT NOW.

That pos needed to stay in India.
 
2013-02-12 09:23:29 AM

Ishkur: jaylectricity: Why didn't you like the only comic book movie I've ever liked?

I enjoyed it too, but I didn't think it was all that special. It was above average but not worthy of the hype.

See, the problem is the plot suffered from one fatal flaw: The Joker. He's too powerful.

Here's a guy that, despite being a psychotic madman who employs schizophrenics (who are apparently expendable and therefore possess no unique skills or talents), has advanced knowledge and skillset in everything demanded by the plot from logistics, project management, construction, engineering, explosives and detonation, and civil planning.

He has friends, contacts and confidants everywhere (but he doesn't use the mob because they hate him too -- he robbed then burnt all their money), he is able to procure and execute diabolical schemes in a matter of days that would take any competent team of professional engineers weeks to prepare. He can purchase or obtain any illegal weapon, controlled substance or illicit chemical while evading detection from the authorities who closely monitor those things (and somehow smuggle them in the diciest of places like warehouses, boats, or the desk drawer of a district attorney). He has no problem getting ahold of anything that his plans require, like a fleet of busses to pull off a bank robbery or a dozen security guard uniforms to blend into a parade. And he somehow procures these things under the noses of everybody.

AND he has the magical superpower known as "off-screen teleportation", meaning that if he's not on camera, he is simultaneously nowhere and anywhere -- no home, no job, no physical place he always hangs out. No locked door, fence, building or secure area is safe from him -- he always magically finds a way in. He's always one step ahead of the good guys and immune to being tracked, recorded or anticipated. Nothing is ever learned about or from him while he is in this state of superposition yet he is apparently a relentless busybody who moves ...


Y CAN'T SUPERHEROES BE MOAR REALISM
 
2013-02-12 09:25:50 AM
Eternal Sunshine, a movie that appeals to the forever alone crowd who thinks that's what love looks like, and also hits the whimsy for whimsy's sake crowd.  Inch deep and a mile wide.

Empire Strikes Back, just watch the ending, a huge emotional gut punch, coupled with perhaps the most effective film score ever.  Lucas fighting with all the guilds at the time probably didn't help though.

Although I think the never ending internet love of Pixar is unearned, Toy Story is a decent movie and was a ground breaking use of technology.  That should've secured it a nomination even though it was a crowded year.
 
2013-02-12 09:50:00 AM

Ishkur: Darth_Lukecash: There's several explanations, but the most likely is that the Joker was in full taunting mode and got lucky

HE'S LUCKY 47 TIMES IN THE MOVIE!!1

Can't he just express anything resembling a somewhat lack of perfect knowledge and understanding of every contingency and outcome, just once?

He's written as a farking god and it makes watching his ludicrous plans succeed thoroughly unenjoyable.


I've always felt that Nolan's Batman was less about Batman and more about Nolan's (often contradictory) personal musings on the nature of crime and justice. Batman isn't Batman, he's a hand puppet for Justice. The villains (including the Joker) aren't the villains with identifiable characteristics and tricks of the trade, they're a hand puppet for crime and chaos. All of the extra character added to the films are simply hollow misdirection, like a magic trick. It feels empty.

Oddly, even though I liked the films for the most part as crime and justice films, I've despised them as Batman films. And it leads me to believe that's why any type of spin off or conglomeration ala Marvel's universe using Nolan's Batman as its core is doomed to fail.
 
2013-02-12 09:56:19 AM

John Buck 41: That's not a half bad list, with the exception of 35.  Blade Runner

I sincerely don't get the love for this movie.




1.bp.blogspot.com
Layers.
 
2013-02-12 10:00:11 AM

xanadian: nmrsnr: 1. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004) - Am I the only person on Earth who didn't really like this movie?

That movie was an odd one.  It's one of those movies I really liked a lot, but would NEVER EVER EVER see again.  It's hard to describe.


If only there was a way to wipe your memory so that you could experience it again for the first time.

Broktun: rbaron71: I like Bill Simmons' idea of waiting five years before nominating the films, like hall of fame inductions. So this year we'd be looking at the movies of 2008.

Slum-dog Millionaire
The Wrestler
Wall-E
Gran Torino
Tropic Thunder


I'd replace Gran Torino with either Frost/Nixon or In Bruges. Sorry, it's good, but overrated. Thao's acting was terrible (Walt! WAAAAAALT!), and some of the gang members look like they just walked in from whatever the local high school was producing. I liked Slumdog a lot, but I could see it being replaced too. My winner would probably be a toss-up between Wall-E and The Wrestler, though Tropic Thunder is one of the rare comedies that actually seems to get better with age.
 
2013-02-12 10:03:09 AM

thecpt: Whoever wrote this put together a decent list, but some of their facts are just plain wrong.  Brad Pitt's first snub was 1995 with se7en, not 1999 with fight club.


Brad Pitt was snubbed in 1995, but it was for 12 Monkeys, not Se7en.  And given that he lost the Oscar to Kevin Spacey in Usual Suspects, you can't even really call it a snub.

As for the list, Fight Club didn't do well at the box office at all. It didn't start being hailed as a classic until it was on video. That's the same reason I think Shawshank lost best picture in 1994. It was a great movie, but when it was in theaters, nobody saw it.
 
2013-02-12 10:05:25 AM

stoli n coke: thecpt: Whoever wrote this put together a decent list, but some of their facts are just plain wrong.  Brad Pitt's first snub was 1995 with se7en, not 1999 with fight club.

Brad Pitt was snubbed in 1995, but it was for 12 Monkeys, not Se7en.  And given that he lost the Oscar to Kevin Spacey in Usual Suspects, you can't even really call it a snub.

As for the list, Fight Club didn't do well at the box office at all. It didn't start being hailed as a classic until it was on video. That's the same reason I think Shawshank lost best picture in 1994. It was a great movie, but when it was in theaters, nobody saw it.


That and I'm not sure that anything was going to overtake the colossus that was Forrest Gump that year. I was only 10 at the time, but I remember that movie (and the push for Hanks to win his second straight Oscar) being EVERYWHERE.
 
2013-02-12 10:06:35 AM

picodenico: Pan's Labyrinth is also incredibly good, and deserves much more praise than it gets.


wat

That movie is incredible but it couldn't possibly get more praise than it does
 
2013-02-12 10:07:20 AM

stoli n coke: Brad Pitt was snubbed in 1995, but it was for 12 Monkeys, not Se7en.


Five thousand dollars!  Five thousand dollars!
 
2013-02-12 10:08:22 AM

Incorrigible Astronaut: In Bruges


Not in farking bruges
 
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