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2013-02-11 08:07:35 PM  
Boogie Nights should be in the top 10.
 
2013-02-11 08:26:59 PM  
27. "Cinema Paradiso" (1988)
Definitely.  This might even be on my own personal list of the top 10 best movies of my lifetime.  On the other hand:

20. "The Royal Tenenbaums" (2001)
Uh, no. Just no.
 
2013-02-11 08:28:52 PM  
I don't DO the Oscars anymore. Whoopi Goldberg got robbed when she didn't win best actress in The Color Purple. That movie should've cleaned up at the awards that year. It got ELEVEN nominations and not a single win.
 
2013-02-11 08:37:32 PM  
Back to the Future?

Really?

A good enough film for its time, but hardly Best Picture material.
 
2013-02-11 08:40:33 PM  

Cyberluddite: 27. "Cinema Paradiso" (1988)
Definitely.  This might even be on my own personal list of the top 10 best movies of my lifetime.  On the other hand:

20. "The Royal Tenenbaums" (2001)
Uh, no. Just no.


Agreed. Cinema Paradiso is on my Top 5 list of movies. It's just such a beautiful film. I remember just blinking a lot when I watched The Royal Tenenbaums. I remember thinking to myself, "I don't get it."
 
2013-02-11 08:58:09 PM  

Cyberluddite: 27. "Cinema Paradiso" (1988)Definitely.  This might even be on my own personal list of the top 10 best movies of my lifetime.  On the other hand:


Really? Cineman Paradiso was cute and heartwarming, but, like 8 1/2, it felt too much like film-making wankery. I don't know, maybe it's just that I don't like when film makers make movies about how amazing movies are, but I prefer a movie like Hugo, which shows it's love of film and film-making, without being about films and film-making.

47. "Bringing Up Baby" (1938) - I really, really dislike this movie.

28. "The Usual Suspects" (1995) - Definitely belongs on the list

24. "City of God" (2002) - Easily the best movie on this list, IMO

1. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004) - Am I the only person on Earth who didn't really like this movie?
 
2013-02-11 09:05:53 PM  
"Bringing Up Baby" is easily in my Top 10 favorite movies.
 
2013-02-11 09:08:28 PM  
Hey look, it's another movie list from people who don't understand why people don't like the things they like.
 
2013-02-11 09:11:28 PM  

nmrsnr: 1. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004) - Am I the only person on Earth who didn't really like this movie?


No. You are not.

SilentStrider: Back to the Future?

Really?

A good enough film for its time, but hardly Best Picture material.


Good enough to have been nominated, but there's no way it would have won. The Color Purple should have beaten Out of Africa anyway.
 
2013-02-11 09:20:05 PM  

SilentStrider: Back to the Future?

Really?

A good enough film for its time, but hardly Best Picture material.


Yup.  Stopped reading right there.
 
2013-02-11 09:27:11 PM  
There is probably a certain mix of Payola (cash)  and Sprayola (making sure everone has seen your film) at play here.

While I rarely to never agree with the Oscar nominations, as long as they keep making films, I'm not going to biatch too hard.
 
2013-02-11 09:32:39 PM  

cmunic8r99: nmrsnr: 1. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004) - Am I the only person on Earth who didn't really like this movie?

No. You are not.

SilentStrider: Back to the Future?

Really?

A good enough film for its time, but hardly Best Picture material.

Good enough to have been nominated, but there's no way it would have won. The Color Purple should have beaten Out of Africa anyway.


I like you. I'm putting you on my list.
 
2013-02-11 09:35:16 PM  

nmrsnr: Cyberluddite: 27. "Cinema Paradiso" (1988)Definitely.  This might even be on my own personal list of the top 10 best movies of my lifetime.  On the other hand:

Really? Cineman Paradiso was cute and heartwarming, but, like 8 1/2, it felt too much like film-making wankery. I don't know, maybe it's just that I don't like when film makers make movies about how amazing movies are, but I prefer a movie like Hugo, which shows it's love of film and film-making, without being about films and film-making.

47. "Bringing Up Baby" (1938) - I really, really dislike this movie.

28. "The Usual Suspects" (1995) - Definitely belongs on the list

24. "City of God" (2002) - Easily the best movie on this list, IMO

1. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004) - Am I the only person on Earth who didn't really like this movie?


No. And Jim Carrey should be banned by federal law from doing dramatic roles.
 
2013-02-11 09:38:24 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: No. And Jim Carrey should be banned by federal law from doing dramatic roles.


The Truman Show was a decent movie. But it's the exception that proves the rule.
 
2013-02-11 09:39:04 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: cmunic8r99: nmrsnr: 1. "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" (2004) - Am I the only person on Earth who didn't really like this movie?

No. You are not.

SilentStrider: Back to the Future?

Really?

A good enough film for its time, but hardly Best Picture material.

Good enough to have been nominated, but there's no way it would have won. The Color Purple should have beaten Out of Africa anyway.

I like you. I'm putting you on my list.


Hopefully not this one:
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-11 09:46:22 PM  

SilentStrider: Back to the Future?

Really?

A good enough film for its time, but hardly Best Picture material.


Just because it wasn't a "serious" movie doesn't mean it wasn't well made.

Fight Club should have been #1. fark American Beauty. Pretentious bullshiat.
 
2013-02-11 09:53:43 PM  

Mugato: fark American Beauty. Pretentious bullshiat.


American Beauty was probably the one winner I actually liked.
 
2013-02-11 09:56:45 PM  
26. "The Dark Knight" (2008)
Here is where the "Academy is out of touch" argument gets its strongest piece of evidence, because here was a film that critics, the box office, and movie-lovers all adored.


I didn't.

Dare to ask me why.
 
2013-02-11 09:58:10 PM  

Ishkur: 26. "The Dark Knight" (2008)
Here is where the "Academy is out of touch" argument gets its strongest piece of evidence, because here was a film that critics, the box office, and movie-lovers all adored.

I didn't.

Dare to ask me why.


Why didn't you like the only comic book movie I've ever liked?

/Besides Superman 2
 
2013-02-11 10:01:34 PM  
The Shining for the win. That movie wasn't nominated for anything except Razzies when it first came out. Now it is widely regarded as genius. Not really typical Best Picture Fare, but there are a dozen other awards it would probably win today
 
2013-02-11 10:04:28 PM  

Mugato: Just because it wasn't a "serious" movie doesn't mean it wasn't well made.


I didn't say it wasn't well made, just that I don't think it was something that I think of when I think of Best Picture.
 
2013-02-11 10:05:23 PM  
If the Academy could just show us its long-form Best **** Qualification Checklist we could put this whole nonsense behind us.
 
2013-02-11 10:15:26 PM  
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Malkovich, Malkovich?
www.soundonsight.org
 
2013-02-11 10:16:18 PM  
syriana was pretty good.
 
2013-02-11 10:20:22 PM  

nmrsnr: ecmoRandomNumbers: No. And Jim Carrey should be banned by federal law from doing dramatic roles.

The Truman Show was a decent movie. But it's the exception that proves the rule.


I'm probably going to cop a lot of flak for this, but I prefer him in dramatic roles compared to his comedic ones.  The rubber face buffoonery gets stale pretty quickly.

/I can only think of those two roles off the top of my head, but still...
 
2013-02-11 10:20:51 PM  

SpikeStrip: syriana was pretty good.


If I recall correctly, Syriana was confusing as fark.
 
2013-02-11 10:21:05 PM  

jaylectricity: Why didn't you like the only comic book movie I've ever liked?


I enjoyed it too, but I didn't think it was all that special. It was above average but not worthy of the hype.

See, the problem is the plot suffered from one fatal flaw: The Joker. He's too powerful.

Here's a guy that, despite being a psychotic madman who employs schizophrenics (who are apparently expendable and therefore possess no unique skills or talents), has advanced knowledge and skillset in everything demanded by the plot from logistics, project management, construction, engineering, explosives and detonation, and civil planning.

He has friends, contacts and confidants everywhere (but he doesn't use the mob because they hate him too -- he robbed then burnt all their money), he is able to procure and execute diabolical schemes in a matter of days that would take any competent team of professional engineers weeks to prepare. He can purchase or obtain any illegal weapon, controlled substance or illicit chemical while evading detection from the authorities who closely monitor those things (and somehow smuggle them in the diciest of places like warehouses, boats, or the desk drawer of a district attorney). He has no problem getting ahold of anything that his plans require, like a fleet of busses to pull off a bank robbery or a dozen security guard uniforms to blend into a parade. And he somehow procures these things under the noses of everybody.

AND he has the magical superpower known as "off-screen teleportation", meaning that if he's not on camera, he is simultaneously nowhere and anywhere -- no home, no job, no physical place he always hangs out. No locked door, fence, building or secure area is safe from him -- he always magically finds a way in. He's always one step ahead of the good guys and immune to being tracked, recorded or anticipated. Nothing is ever learned about or from him while he is in this state of superposition yet he is apparently a relentless busybody who moves with genius precision to plan, construct, engineer and execute an immense array of impressive stunts and NO ONE EVER farkING NOTICES HIM DOING THIS.

(meanwhile, Batman can't even make a custom car in his own garage without someone from his own company finding out)

The Joker dominates the film to such an extent that he is essentially a villain Mary Sue. He has no limitations, no obstacles, and no complications. He is capable of anything. If the story needs him to do something to the city, its innocent civilians, or any of the good guys including Batman, he will succeed in that purpose because fark you, the Joker is badass. Even when he's captured, it's all portrayed as being part of his plan because no one is in control of anything except him. He has contingencies for everything (because he managed to surgically put a bomb inside a man just in case something like this would happen).

It didn't make the movie fun to watch. It made him overpowered in too many areas and he never struggled with any of the plot points. Oh, wait. A detonator didn't go off once, but he jiggled it and it worked again. That was the only hiccup we ever saw in any of his plans. Everything he did was flawless and perfect.

I mean, if he did one implausible thing in the movie, I can gloss over that. Even if he did two or three, it's easy to overlook. But this guy was pulling crazy shiat out of his ass every five minutes, each with many variables and moving parts and sequences involved, and they all went off perfect, on time, without a hitch. There's at least two dozen "how did he do that"s in the movie, and it gets really annoying seeing his plans continuously pave off time after time.

I think the biggest one was when he crashes the Penthouse party. This is a fundraising gala full of the richest and most powerful people in Gotham, and he somehow got passed the lobby guards and up 30+ flights of keyfob/password-locked floors and just waltzes right in. It would be like a terrorist group crashing a Koch Bros. Teaparty Convention. Those things are crawling with security, you can't get within 500 feet of the building.

And he crashes the mob boss meeting too. How did he know it was there? How did he get through the locked doors? How did he evade security? He never seems to have a problem with these simple logistics.

And how did he know Harvey and Rachel were getting married? They didn't tell anyone but each other. Yet he teases Batman with this info. Where did he get this intelligence from? It's amazing how he always knows everything about everyone and what's going on at all times.

I can only conclude that the Joker actually has a super power. He is a teleporter.

/rant over
 
2013-02-11 10:26:10 PM  

Ishkur: /rant over


Well, I see you've put a lot of thought into this. Hopefully you have found an outlet for your energy besides a random Fark post.
 
2013-02-11 10:31:56 PM  

jaylectricity: Well, I see you've put a lot of thought into this. Hopefully you have found an outlet for your energy besides a random Fark post.


As a matter of fact, I have......
 
2013-02-11 10:32:03 PM  

SJKebab: The rubber face buffoonery gets stale pretty quickly.


I agree, I didn't say I liked his comedic roles much better, but he makes a good one every now and again (the Mask, Liar Liar, Bruce Almighty) .

/I can only think of those two roles off the top of my head, but still...

The Majestic, The Number 23 (anyone remember that piece of garbage?), and Man on the Moon are ones I can think of off the top of my head.
 
2013-02-11 10:33:26 PM  

GAT_00: SpikeStrip: syriana was pretty good.

If I recall correctly, Syriana was confusing as fark.


yeah, i've watched it a bunch of times and still don't completely understand it. i just really liked the acting, directing, cinematography et al.
 
2013-02-11 10:43:06 PM  

Ishkur: jaylectricity: Well, I see you've put a lot of thought into this. Hopefully you have found an outlet for your energy besides a random Fark post.

As a matter of fact, I have......


And I didn't mean anything negative by that. Did we recently talk about you having some sort of blog, maybe about movies? It hadn't rung a bell before my last post, but suddenly I'm remembering a conversation about you having a blog.
 
2013-02-11 10:43:59 PM  
And I might not have been technically in that conversation. Maybe just an observer.
 
2013-02-11 10:51:08 PM  
And on the list of "Movies that never deserved jack squat." #1) Hurt Locker.
 
2013-02-11 10:51:46 PM  

jaylectricity: And I didn't mean anything negative by that. Did we recently talk about you having some sort of blog, maybe about movies? It hadn't rung a bell before my last post, but suddenly I'm remembering a conversation about you having a blog.


Not movies, music.
 
2013-02-11 10:55:28 PM  
That's not a half bad list, with the exception of 35.  Blade Runner

I sincerely don't get the love for this movie.
 
2013-02-11 10:57:37 PM  

Ishkur: jaylectricity: And I didn't mean anything negative by that. Did we recently talk about you having some sort of blog, maybe about movies? It hadn't rung a bell before my last post, but suddenly I'm remembering a conversation about you having a blog.

Not movies, music.


OK, yes.
 
2013-02-11 11:04:04 PM  

jaylectricity: OK, yes.


Sorry if I seem dismissive and terse, but yeah..... I'm cataloguing thousands of hours of music for a project to be released later this year.
 
2013-02-11 11:09:58 PM  
No apologies necessary.
 
2013-02-11 11:12:03 PM  

Ishkur: jaylectricity: And I didn't mean anything negative by that. Did we recently talk about you having some sort of blog, maybe about movies? It hadn't rung a bell before my last post, but suddenly I'm remembering a conversation about you having a blog.

Not movies, music.


You're that Ishkur?  I remember spending spending an evening looking through your guide and listening to samples.  Probably a decade ago.  Found a few new groups and genres from it.

Thanks for the fun.

/way off topic
 
2013-02-11 11:12:56 PM  

jaylectricity: Mugato: fark American Beauty. Pretentious bullshiat.

American Beauty was probably the one winner I actually liked.loved.


The Sting too.
 
2013-02-11 11:26:48 PM  
Absent from the list:

Casino
 
2013-02-11 11:27:16 PM  

beautifulbob: You're that Ishkur?


Yes, I am that Ishkur.

Hold tight, new one's coming out soon. It'll have 10,000 samples to start.
 
2013-02-11 11:36:15 PM  
City Of God was an amazing film and it's a damn shame more people haven't seen it.
 
2013-02-11 11:44:55 PM  

nmrsnr: ecmoRandomNumbers: No. And Jim Carrey should be banned by federal law from doing dramatic roles.

The Truman Show was a decent movie. But it's the exception that proves the rule.


how can an exception prove a rule?

that really is a stupid saying.

if anything, it invalidates the rule.
 
2013-02-11 11:47:45 PM  
They lost me right away on Wall-E. Not only should it have been MUCH higher on the list, but the author's description of Spirited Away as its only competition in the "best animated film of the past 25 years" argument is ludicrous.

The Iron Giant
How To Train Your Dragon
(although I don't think it's aging well -- I saw it on cable and I didn't enjoy it as much as I did in the theater)
Akira and Metropolis for your other Japanese entries
Ratatouille is a dark horse

FFS, the past 25 years includes the entire Disney renaissance.
 
2013-02-12 12:48:40 AM  
And The Princess Bride has become part of our culture, and no Oscar to be had. Perhaps the Academy should have an oops category.
 
2013-02-12 01:43:01 AM  

Ishkur: I think the biggest one was when he crashes the Penthouse party. This is a fundraising gala full of the richest and most powerful people in Gotham, and he somehow got passed the lobby guards and up 30+ flights of keyfob/password-locked floors and just waltzes right in. It would be like a terrorist group crashing a Koch Bros. Teaparty Convention. Those things are crawling with security, you can't get within 500 feet of the building.


Just to point out one thing: The cop that was a "hostage" in the elevator was working for Marconi (and used by the Joker)


Ishkur: And how did he know Harvey and Rachel were getting married? They didn't tell anyone but each other. Yet he teases Batman with this info. Where did he get this intelligence from? It's amazing how he always knows everything about everyone and what's going on at all times.


Joker never Batman about Rachel and Harvey marriage plan, but they did know Rachel and Harvey were lovers.  In fact, the Joker thought Harvey was Batman the way he threw himself after Rachel getting pushed out of the window.  The Joker was mocking Batman for getting between Harvey and Rachel as lovers...not that they were going to get married.
 
2013-02-12 01:46:36 AM  

SpikeStrip: GAT_00: SpikeStrip: syriana was pretty good.

If I recall correctly, Syriana was confusing as fark.

yeah, i've watched it a bunch of times and still don't completely understand it. i just really liked the acting, directing, cinematography et al.


Syriana was a rather good film-that basically examines the nature of interactions in the Middle East between governments, business and Religion.  It doesn't offer any answers except "It's pretty damn complicated"  But it shows the complications.  It's all shorthand however.
 
2013-02-12 03:07:02 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Joker never Batman about Rachel and Harvey marriage plan, but they did know Rachel and Harvey were lovers. In fact, the Joker thought Harvey was Batman the way he threw himself after Rachel getting pushed out of the window. The Joker was mocking Batman for getting between Harvey and Rachel as lovers...not that they were going to get married.


Joker : Choose between one life or the other. Your friend the district attorney or his blushing bride-to-be.
 
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