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(WCPO Cincinnati)   Indiana church wants high school to have a 'traditional prom' & ban gays & lesbians. Special Ed teacher contributes to the rational discussion by declaring that "Gays have no purpose in life" & then pretty much compares them to her special needs kids   (wcpo.com) divider line 377
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2013-02-12 09:32:47 AM  

Point02GPA: SkunkWerks: Point02GPA: "shoulder roll"

"halter top"

"assed chaps"


"bushy mustache"
 
2013-02-12 09:34:50 AM  

SkunkWerks: Point02GPA: SkunkWerks: Point02GPA: "shoulder roll"

"halter top"

"assed chaps"

"bushy mustache"


"lip gloss"
 
2013-02-12 09:39:58 AM  

Point02GPA: The Envoy: Point02GPA: The Envoy: Point02GPA: The Envoy: What's with having to identify themselves?  LGBT?  Here's an idea: let's call everybody "people" and stop fixating on what they do with their private parts.

That works well until you get into the "restroom" thingee.

Interesting that you immediately think of restrooms when we're talking about sex and sexual orientation which have nothing to do with going to the toilet.  I understand that it's a fetish for some but it's not what I'm talking about.


I beg your pardon...you mentioned sex in a restroom, not me. I responded to "what they do with their private

 parts".

Interesting that you are now thinking about "sex in restrooms" when I made no such connection beyond noting that you think about restrooms when the subject of sex, sexual orientation and private parts is the topic under discussion.  I was talking explicitly about sexual orientation and how we should just call people "people", regardless of how they utilise their private parts and with whom.  Your response was to imply that this would somehow cause a problem when it comes to people going to the toilet when the two are separate - except, apparently, in your mind.

It's cool calling people people. Men normally take their "private parts" to men's restrooms...women normally take their privet parts to "women's restrooms".


that's sexual discrimination! why don't you take your racist bigotry somewhere else, your posts taste like hate

you are exactly the reason why we must slaughter all the christians republican tea baggers

vote democrat, FOR SCIENCE!

it's the only logical rational moral natural choice
 
2013-02-12 09:40:59 AM  
Christian groups minister to people in prison all the time. They know the inmates have committed crimes but they still care about their welfare, without accepting or condoning the crimes they committed.
They don't agree with their lifestyle but they love them anyway. These are good Christian values. And yet still people have a problem


This is about discrimination. I'm not going to try and guess you motivations for trying to frame it as a mere difference of opinion but that doesn't mean I will let your comment slide either. If you are a public school teacher you need to at  a minimum keep your hurtful opinions private and out of the public light.



So any opinions that might "hurt" others should be kept to yourself? Okay.
 
2013-02-12 09:42:03 AM  

miss diminutive: Honestly, I don't understand the reasoning behind the hatred many Christians hold towards the gay community. Why do they take this one issue, which is hardly mentioned outside the Old Testament, and make it into a rallying point? They already dismiss and disregard so much of what's written in the bible, why does homosexuality take front seat?


Reposted for relevance...

Top Ten Reasons to Make Gay Marriage Illegal

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all like many of the principles on which this great country was founded; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of marriages like Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

Leviticus 19:10 And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God.


Which seems to point to Yahweh being down with welfare and assisting folks in need.

Leviticus 19:14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.

Yahweh seems to be down with helping the handicapped too.

Leviticus 19:16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the LORD.

So, apparently, lying and telling tales is not approved of, and that communities should stand together. Not just the pale people or the brown people, but all y'all's people...

Leviticus 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Guess wishing death and terribleness on your neighbors is out too. How many Democrats or Libertarians or Scientologist you think live in your neighborhoods?

Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

Gee. Love thy neighbor. Nor on the children of your people. Whuddathunkit?

And, of course, there is something about immigrants that is completely ignored by the rabid Christian nationalists...

Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.

Leviticus 19:34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

Does that mean we can end this ridiculousness about trying to repeal the 14th Amendment, since Leviticus was down with that sort of thing LONG before the Founding Fathers or Lincoln?

Or if we have to throw out Leviticus as being outdated, does this mean we can toss out the whole hating the gheys thing too?

You can almost hear the gears grinding and popping in the audience...

Gay Lib. Now interestingly, here is an attempt by a hooked down and kind of persecuted minority to insist on their place rightfully, and their treatment rightfully, without it having anything to do with ethnic or religion or anything! It's really an exciting separate part of liberation. ...Sometimes we, if we're younger, we react to that in a way that we've been schooled. Then you kinda get your chops, and you get things okay and you understand and it's all right to be able to talk about that. Here's what I mean. The word "homosexual," many people who aren't in the position to having to decide this, they wonder:

"Is homosexuality... Is it normal? Is it natural? I ask you. Is it normal or natural? Is it unnatural and abnormal?"

Now those two words seem to revolve around it. Now let's look at those words for what they are...

"Natural." Hey. Means "according to nature." Is it according to nature? Well...probably not in the strictest sense because nature didn't presuppose it. Nature only gave us one set of sexual apparatus. A girl's got something for the guys, a guy's got something for the girls. As it is now, a homosexual is forced to "share" the apparatus that the opposite sex is using on this person. Certainly if nature was in command there'd have two sets of goodies. So nature was not ready. We leaped past nature again in our sociological development, way down the road ahead of nature.

Is it normal? Normal? Well what's "normal?" Well, let's see.. if you're standing in a room, stripped, and it's dark, and you're hugging a person and loving them and rubbing them up and down, and they're rubbing you, and you're rubbing together and suddenly the light goes on and it's the same sex, you've been trained to go

"AAIIIAUUGGGAIIIAEAAHHHHHHHH!"

But if felt okayy.... So maybe it was normal without being natural..."

Ultimately, it's an issue that gets folks press. It gets dollars in hands, but it is a short term gain. It is about stunting, and in party a martyr complex that NEEDS to be fed. Folks feel "persecuted" feel special. It is a kind of attention getting that isn't real healthy, but then again basing "hate" for folks on the basis of who they aren't sleeping with isn't exactly sensical...
 
2013-02-12 09:42:42 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Sgt Otter: "You're the REAL bigot!" It's so weird seeing a Fark cliche' in real life.  Like the bizarre, "hilarious" insulting names for Barack Obama that merely aren't funny, they make absolutely no farking sense.

You may have misread that - the quote was Dan Savage calling the hobophobic shiatweasels "Bigots," not the other way around.

FTFA: Among the supporters is Diana Medley, a special education teacher at nearby North Central Jr./Sr. High School in the Northeast School Corporation, who told WTWO she doesn't believe anyone is born gay.

If you were to chart "People who loudly and publicly insist that homosexuality is a choice" and "Straight people" as a Venn diagram, the two circles wouldn't even be on the same blackboard. Just another self-hating gay Christian.


If you think being gay is a choice obviously you think you could wake one morning and think "Well, that's enough vagina for a bit. Let's try penis for a bit"

/not you you
/the indefinate you
 
2013-02-12 09:42:45 AM  

miss diminutive: Honestly, I don't understand the reasoning behind the hatred many Christians hold towards the gay community. Why do they take this one issue, which is hardly mentioned outside the Old Testament, and make it into a rallying point? They already dismiss and disregard so much of what's written in the bible, why does homosexuality take front seat?


Because they're envious of those who had the courage to get out of the closet.
 
2013-02-12 09:44:42 AM  

SkunkWerks: Point02GPA: It's cool calling people people. Men normally take their "private parts" to men's restrooms...women normally take their privet parts to "women's restrooms".

[i.imgur.com image 100x100]


I know that without a little attention to grooming, a woman's pubic hair can get a bit bushy, but likening it to a hedge is a bit much.
 
2013-02-12 09:45:03 AM  

Point02GPA: SkunkWerks: Point02GPA: SkunkWerks: Point02GPA: "shoulder roll"

"halter top"

"assed chaps"

"bushy mustache"

"lip gloss"


"monk's crown"
 
2013-02-12 09:45:16 AM  
I drunk what

If your first stupid comment didn't get any bites, the dignified thing (well, relatively speaking) would be to just let it go and take a break from the thread. Nobody likes a desperate troll.
 
2013-02-12 09:46:12 AM  

doubled99: Christian groups minister to people in prison all the time. They know the inmates have committed crimes but they still care about their welfare, without accepting or condoning the crimes they committed.
They don't agree with their lifestyle but they love them anyway. These are good Christian values. And yet still people have a problem


This is about discrimination. I'm not going to try and guess you motivations for trying to frame it as a mere difference of opinion but that doesn't mean I will let your comment slide either. If you are a public school teacher you need to at  a minimum keep your hurtful opinions private and out of the public light.


So any opinions that might "hurt" others should be kept to yourself? Okay.


Yes, if you work in a school you are expected to be respectful to the students.
 
2013-02-12 09:47:03 AM  

Point02GPA: The Envoy: Point02GPA: The Envoy: What's with having to identify themselves?  LGBT?  Here's an idea: let's call everybody "people" and stop fixating on what they do with their private parts.

That works well until you get into the "restroom" thingee.

Interesting that you immediately think of restrooms when we're talking about sex and sexual orientation which have nothing to do with going to the toilet.  I understand that it's a fetish for some but it's not what I'm talking about.


I beg your pardon...you mentioned sex in a restroom, not me. I responded to "what they do with their private

 parts".


And that's why you're being questioned.  Last time I checked, everyone - regardless of sexual orientation - defecates out of their anus, and urinates from their urethra.  That fact that you think 'teh gheys' are doing something different makes you a tard.
 
2013-02-12 09:48:38 AM  

Biological Ali: the dignified thing


IDW does not do the dignified thing.

IDW likes to refer to himself in the third person.
 
2013-02-12 09:49:15 AM  
"Gays have no purpose in life"  upload.wikimedia.org

Well, apparently other than defeating the Nazis and saving thousands if not millions of lives, but don't let facts stand in the way of your ideological ranting, ma'am.
(Pic- Alan Turing)
 
2013-02-12 09:49:20 AM  

miss diminutive: Honestly, I don't understand the reasoning behind the hatred many Christians hold towards the gay community. Why do they take this one issue, which is hardly mentioned outside the Old Testament, and make it into a rallying point? They already dismiss and disregard so much of what's written in the bible, why does homosexuality take front seat?



They believe homosexuality is a sin
They believe you will burn in hell for being a homosexual
They believe homosexuality is a choice
They are worried that the prevelance of gay people is society will make their own children more likley to be homosexual
They are terrified that their own kids will become homosexuals and burn in hell for all of eternity
 
2013-02-12 09:53:44 AM  

jaylectricity: You're changing your words around. Point02GPA was merely saying that we can't just call people "people" when it comes to public restrooms. Unless you are suggesting that men and women can use the same restroom.


Heaven forbid.  I'm pretty happy not having to wait in that long line at the women's restroom...
 
2013-02-12 09:55:26 AM  

Biological Ali: I drunk what

If your first stupid comment didn't get any bites, the dignified thing (well, relatively speaking) would be to just let it go and take a break from the thread. Nobody likes a desperate troll.


which comment are you referring to as "stupid"? since the only stupid comments i see in this thread that aren't getting any responses are yours :D

i guess you have an irrational fear of homosexuality and that is the reason why you need to insult those of us that care about civil rights, do you also hate colored too? or just the LBGT ones?

take your republican christian trolling somewhere else we don't like bigoted hate speech here
 
2013-02-12 09:56:40 AM  
Bullseyed: If you believe in evolution, then gays have no purpose in life.

Really? Did it ever occur to you that homosexuality might be an evolved trait? Even though homosexuals might not pass on their own genes (which they often do), they might help others with very similar genes (siblings, for instance) pass on theirs.

Sometimes, kids need foster parents.

If you're a creationist, then gays are fine.

The purpose of life (if you aren't religious) is procreation. Passing on superior genetic material to the next generation. If you're not going to have kids and don't believe in God, then there is no purpose for your life.


Several trillion ants, bees, and termites disagree with you.
 
2013-02-12 09:57:31 AM  

jaylectricity: You're changing your words around. Point02GPA was merely saying that we can't just call people "people" when it comes to public restrooms. Unless you are suggesting that men and women can use the same restroom.


No, I'm not.  My entire point, from inception up until now, has been around sexual orientation (and how we label it), the acceptance of which is the very subject of TFA and TFT, yes?  Toilet habits have nothing to do with sexual orientation.  You both have read what I typed and understandably, given your apparent similarity in the fetish department, have conflated the two.  It's not a problem my friend.  To reiterate, what people do with their privates and with whom is simply irrelevant.  I will add a caveat here to avoid any further misunderstandings:  I am of course talking about sex among consenting adults.

I am not "suggesting" anything dear boy, men and women, CAN and DO use the same restrooms everywhere in the word:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=clubs+with+unisex+bathrooms+lo nd on&fb=1&gl=uk&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=clubs+unisex+bathrooms+nyc&ie= UT F-8&ei=4FMaUa3oMuOK0AWf94CoBg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=2&gs_ri=serp &t ok=Q9-BQRhBC0yz53HSc9S1wA&pq=clubs+unisex+bathrooms+nyc&cp=34&gs_id=15 0&xhr=t&q=clubs+unisex+bathrooms+Los+Angeles&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_q f.&bvm=bv.42261806,d.d2k&biw=1600&bih=754&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Sadly, your incredulousness about this can only signify that you're ashamed of yourself and/or your body's natural functions to such a degree that sharing a bathroom seems to be such a crazy idea.  Maybe this is why you're single?  I only assume you are because any couple that's been together for a period of time shares the bathroom.  If you're not then kudos to your partner for helping you try to overcome your shame.  It will all be ok in the end.

Private parts aren't merely sexual organs, they are also waste elimination organs. Point02 pointed out that "people" need separate bathrooms and you jumped all over his shiat screaming about how he was thinking about sexual organs when he said no such thing.

I'm afraid I can't see any hint of "jumping on shiat" (although I consider myself very broad-minded, the jumping aspect of the coprophilia scene remains unknown to me) or even "screaming".  Where do you get this impression from?  I merely stated that his linking of the two was interesting.  You're understandably very defensive.  I'm not here to judge.
 
2013-02-12 09:58:40 AM  

SkunkWerks: Biological Ali: the dignified thing

IDW does not do the dignified thing.

IDW likes to refer to himself in the third person.


i don't who this "IDW" is but i heard we booted his arse out a long time ago, so if you have a beef with that person maybe you should try and find someone else that gives a fark, because i disagree with anything that moran says, which is why i got this free TF membership, (and a cool  white shiny plastic helmet, though i can't see anything in this thing)
 
2013-02-12 10:01:03 AM  

I drunk what: i don't who this "IDW" is


IDW accidentally the whole IDW.
 
2013-02-12 10:01:03 AM  
Point02GPA:  About par for you.

Somebody's a little bit sensitive!  Look, I was clearly talking about sexual orientation and you start chucking about "restrooms" chat.  It's irrelevant and incorrect: unisex bathrooms are commonplace.  I poke a little bit of fun and you get all pissy about it.  Maybe all those late nights hanging around in restrooms have made you cranky?
 
2013-02-12 10:03:40 AM  

The Envoy: Point02GPA:  About par for you.

Somebody's a little bit sensitive!  Look, I was clearly talking about sexual orientation and you start chucking about "restrooms" chat.  It's irrelevant and incorrect: unisex bathrooms are commonplace.  I poke a little bit of fun and you get all pissy about it.  Maybe all those late nights hanging around in restrooms have made you cranky?


Why would your hanging around in restrooms make me cranky?
 
2013-02-12 10:05:30 AM  
I drunk what

You really need to take some pointers from some of this site's regular trolls - show up in a thread early (if possible, before it's even posted to the main site), make one concise comment, and then leave.

I mean, ideally you shouldn't be trolling at all, but if you're intent on wasting your time on it anyway, at least do it right.
 
2013-02-12 10:07:33 AM  
I keep hoping that by the time I have kids and they're old enough to run into this sort of thing, that the bigots will all have died off, or been put in nursing homes or whatnot... but unfortunately, they seem to be raising their children to be the same way. :-/
 
2013-02-12 10:08:00 AM  

Point02GPA: Why would your hanging around in restrooms make me cranky?


Because I keep turning you down.
 
2013-02-12 10:08:33 AM  
What, no LeTrole yet? Somebody call the fire dept. up to his place, probably got stuck to the toilet seat again.
 
2013-02-12 10:09:13 AM  

Robert Farker: miss diminutive: Honestly, I don't understand the reasoning behind the hatred many Christians hold towards the gay community. Why do they take this one issue, which is hardly mentioned outside the Old Testament, and make it into a rallying point? They already dismiss and disregard so much of what's written in the bible, why does homosexuality take front seat?


They believe homosexuality is a sin
They believe you will burn in hell for being a homosexual
They believe homosexuality is a choice
They are worried that the prevelance of gay people is society will make their own children more likley to be homosexual
They are terrified that their own kids will become homosexuals and burn in hell for all of eternity


You have to understand that they MUST believe that homosexuality is a choice IF they believe that it condemns you to hell.  No testimony or science will be allowed in their minds other than a gay person CHOOSES to be gay.

Otherwise God is condemning someone for being the way He created them, which would make God a dick.

So the choice fundamentalists like this face is to reject everything that queers and scientists tell them about sexuality or reject what their churches are telling them, or realize that they are worshiping an asshole.

It is much easier to hang on to the "gays are choosing to sin" argument than to turn over all your belief structures - especially when your family and community as a whole are backing up the church arguments.
 
2013-02-12 10:11:57 AM  

FoxKelfonne: I keep hoping that by the time I have kids and they're old enough to run into this sort of thing, that the bigots will all have died off, or been put in nursing homes or whatnot... but unfortunately, they seem to be raising their children to be the same way. :-/


Actually they haven't very successful at that. Most young folks these days do not hate 'teh gheys'. Actually it's getting to the point that if the bigots would just turn around and notice that nobody is behind them anymore this would all go away pretty quickly.
 
2013-02-12 10:12:00 AM  

The Envoy: Point02GPA: Why would your hanging around in restrooms make me cranky?

Because I keep turning you down.



I poke a little bit of fun and you get all pissy about it.
 
2013-02-12 10:16:11 AM  

Point02GPA: The Envoy: Point02GPA: Why would your hanging around in restrooms make me cranky?

Because I keep turning you down.

I poke a little bit of fun and you get all pissy about it.


Sorry, I thought watersports were your thing!  Am I ever embarrassed.
 
2013-02-12 10:16:13 AM  

Biological Ali: I drunk what

You really need to take some pointers from some of this site's regular trolls - show up in a thread early (if possible, before it's even posted to the main site), make one concise comment, and then leave.

I mean, ideally you shouldn't be trolling at all, but if you're intent on wasting your time on it anyway, at least do it right.


i can't believe you are being serious?  are you ACTUALLY saying that someone who stands up for LGBT rights is TROLL?!? do you realize where you are posting at???

next thing you know, you're gunna try and say that not believing in invisible sky wizards is "trolling" :D lulz, you are a sad sad troll

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

anyways, thanks for your tips on how to be troll, since you are obviously very good at it, but no thanks i'm not a troll, i'm the genuine article, i'm just sorry to see that people like you don't take civil rights as seriously as the rest of us do, good luck with your hate speech crusade

maybe someday you can overcome your irrational fear of things you don't understand

get a science book and educate yourself
 
2013-02-12 10:17:05 AM  
We love you but we don't want you at our prom - go away? You decided to be gay? Really? Does that mean that all straight people have gay feelings but decide to be straight? Christians are wearing armor and fighting? Wow, when did Jesus do THAT? I better go re-read my new testament...
 
2013-02-12 10:17:43 AM  

roadmarks: Robert Farker: miss diminutive: Honestly, I don't understand the reasoning behind the hatred many Christians hold towards the gay community. Why do they take this one issue, which is hardly mentioned outside the Old Testament, and make it into a rallying point? They already dismiss and disregard so much of what's written in the bible, why does homosexuality take front seat?


They believe homosexuality is a sin
They believe you will burn in hell for being a homosexual
They believe homosexuality is a choice
They are worried that the prevelance of gay people is society will make their own children more likley to be homosexual
They are terrified that their own kids will become homosexuals and burn in hell for all of eternity

You have to understand that they MUST believe that homosexuality is a choice IF they believe that it condemns you to hell.  No testimony or science will be allowed in their minds other than a gay person CHOOSES to be gay.

Otherwise God is condemning someone for being the way He created them, which would make God a dick.

So the choice fundamentalists like this face is to reject everything that queers and scientists tell them about sexuality or reject what their churches are telling them, or realize that they are worshiping an asshole.

It is much easier to hang on to the "gays are choosing to sin" argument than to turn over all your belief structures - especially when your family and community as a whole are backing up the church arguments.



That is an important point.
One thing that is a choice, is what parts of the Bible, if any, to follow. I hold each Christian personally responsable for their own opinions. It is their choice and I refuse to let them hide behind what is in the Bible because they are the ones who chose what parts to follow.
 
2013-02-12 10:19:59 AM  

I drunk what: i can't believe you are being serious?


Seriously.
 
2013-02-12 10:26:53 AM  

GAT_00: AirForceVet: /I am SO embarrassed by some Christians.
//I am SO happy I'm Episcopalian and that we accept GLBTs as Jesus' children too.

As I often point out, and as seems to be true here as well, these people are speaking for the majority, not the minority.  This is the Christian majority speaking proudly about how they think the world should look.


THIS cannot be overstated.
 
2013-02-12 10:27:39 AM  
Well, I believe subby may be a special needs kid.  Why ampersands in sentences?  Why?
 
2013-02-12 10:32:26 AM  

jaylectricity: I met a teenager from Indiana on AOL once. He was a nice kid. He was pretending he was a girl, but whatever, I could see past that.

Kept talking about moving away from that place. He also said I had a "cool" voice. Last I talked to him, I wrote to him on AIM and somebody wrote, "Who is this?" I already forgot what I wrote back, but I've never contacted that screen name again. And trust me, I really tried to remember how I worded it. It was something like, "Somebody who enjoys talking to whoever uses this screen name."



2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-12 10:39:22 AM  
Sigh. What ever happened to the teaching of the verse "judge not, lest ye be judged"

I believe that free will is a gift from our creator. Weather it be the big bang, Jesus, or the FSM. It is not our place to dictate how others live their life. But what is mandated is that Christians seek to be Christlike. Following the tenants of love peace patience kindness self controll etc regardless of which set of genitals someone prefers.

Bigotry, hatred, intolerance, and ignorance are far more harmful than a couple dudes or chicks going to a dance together.
 
2013-02-12 10:47:07 AM  

GAT_00: Sgt Otter: dahmers love zombie: "Christians have always been prepared for a fight. Jesus gave us armor for the front, not the back. We're not running anymore," Bill Phegley, with Carlisle Church, told WTWO.
Giggity.

So...assless chaps?

/Yes, I know it's redundant.

I should start a clothing company and market assed chaps.


I believe those are called "pants"
 
2013-02-12 10:54:35 AM  
 I drunk what

Look, I realize that you're being ignored in this thread and that I'm pretty much the only poster to have even tangentially acknowledged your existence, but responding to me (or, in general, anybody who knows better than to take you seriously) is just poor form. Even the other trolls on this website won't stoop so low as to respond to people who know they're trolling.

But I can see that even posts like these may be giving you a false sense of encouragement, as you seem to be responding to them as though they were "bites", so I'll stop. I certainly hope you will too.
 
2013-02-12 10:55:54 AM  

cynicalbastard: Well, apparently other than defeating the Nazis and saving thousands if not millions of lives, but don't let facts stand in the way of your ideological ranting, ma'am.


The invocation of "facts" implies that she was lying.

I would like to propose an alternative explanation.

She may simply be a barely literate, ill-educated land cow who confuses her personal biases and intentionally narrow understanding of the world around her with a sensible ethos.
 
2013-02-12 10:57:35 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: land cow


As opposed to, say, a manatee?
 
2013-02-12 10:59:16 AM  

fknra: GAT_00: Sgt Otter: dahmers love zombie: "Christians have always been prepared for a fight. Jesus gave us armor for the front, not the back. We're not running anymore," Bill Phegley, with Carlisle Church, told WTWO.
Giggity.

So...assless chaps?

/Yes, I know it's redundant.

I should start a clothing company and market assed chaps.

I believe those are called "pants"


Ya think?!
 
2013-02-12 11:10:25 AM  

WhyteRaven74: BTW the federal courts ruled that you can't exclude gay students from prom way back in 1980. So trying to pull any shenanigans is going to make a federal judge very ill tempered.


That ruling applies to public high schools, not churches.
 
2013-02-12 11:14:38 AM  
Christian groups minister to people in prison all the time. They know the inmates have committed crimes but they still care about their welfare, without accepting or condoning the crimes they committed.
They don't agree with their lifestyle but they love them anyway. These are good Christian values. And yet still people have a problem


This is about discrimination. I'm not going to try and guess you motivations for trying to frame it as a mere difference of opinion but that doesn't mean I will let your comment slide either. If you are a public school teacher you need to at  a minimum keep your hurtful opinions private and out of the public light.


So any opinions that might "hurt" others should be kept to yourself? Okay.

Yes, if you work in a school you are expected to be respectful to the students.



Then how will they ever get help for their problem?
 
2013-02-12 11:17:31 AM  

doubled99: Christian groups minister to people in prison all the time. They know the inmates have committed crimes but they still care about their welfare, without accepting or condoning the crimes they committed.
They don't agree with their lifestyle but they love them anyway. These are good Christian values. And yet still people have a problem


This is about discrimination. I'm not going to try and guess you motivations for trying to frame it as a mere difference of opinion but that doesn't mean I will let your comment slide either. If you are a public school teacher you need to at  a minimum keep your hurtful opinions private and out of the public light.


So any opinions that might "hurt" others should be kept to yourself? Okay.

Yes, if you work in a school you are expected to be respectful to the students.


Then how will they ever get help for their problem?



They can only help themselves by being more open mined about people with different sexual orientations.
 
2013-02-12 11:21:22 AM  

doubled99: Then how will they ever get help for their problem?


Dunno, ask Alan Turing.
 
2013-02-12 11:27:28 AM  

The Envoy: Point02GPA: The Envoy: Point02GPA: Why would your hanging around in restrooms make me cranky?

Because I keep turning you down.

I poke a little bit of fun and you get all pissy about it.

Sorry, I thought watersports were your thing!  Am I ever embarrassed.


With your perverted personality, I can understand why you're always embarrassed.
 
2013-02-12 11:27:31 AM  

Earpj: My son might wear a dress to such a prom. He's straight, but outspoken.

We live in Middle of Nowhere, Texas. Oddly enough, our high school is very accepting.


I'm a first generation Texan who grew up in small town Texas.  The funny thing about Texas is that they get a bad wrap for being fundie bigots.  Honestly most of the people in the town I grew up that were that way were transplants from the North that considered themselves Texans.  My family as well.  The most racist, homophobic people I know are my relatives in Pennsylvania.

The true Texans are much more libertarian than anything.  They have the attitude "Don't tell me how to live my live and I won't tell you how to live yours".  They don't care if you are gay, straight, black, white, or green.
 
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