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(Philly Burbs)   Not locking the doors to your home is dumb. Telling people you don't lock the doors is dumber   (phillyburbs.com) divider line 67
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2013-02-11 08:46:14 PM
The victim sounds old.  However, not too old to not be able to operate a lock.

I bet Beth Anne knew about the oxycodone from listening to the old lady complaining about her many pains.  Who knows, the over sharer may have even told everyone about the extra credit cards.

/why can't more old people be like that 82 year old knee kicker?
 
2013-02-11 08:59:05 PM
www.three-peaks.net

She should have posted one of these, also.
 
2013-02-11 10:06:09 PM
Unless you live in a house without windows, locking your door is going to slow down most thieves by about 30 seconds.
 
2013-02-11 10:22:10 PM
"...and I sleep in the nude."
 
2013-02-11 10:23:18 PM
Not that must worse than the many Idiots who post holiday photos online in real time,   just saying
 
2013-02-11 10:23:21 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Unless you live in a house without windows, locking your door is going to slow down most thieves by about 30 seconds.


I was about to say this, with the caveat that windows aren't that bad if they're in a high traffic area where the criminal is going to have an issue breaking them out.

/when I bought my first house it had a back door with two deadbolts and a windows that is around 2.5' x 3' in it
//makes no sense
 
2013-02-11 10:28:09 PM

medius: "...and I sleep in the nude."


on my tummy
 
2013-02-11 10:30:13 PM
Living someplace where every unlocked door means your shiat will get stolen . .dumber-er.
 
2013-02-11 10:32:01 PM
Im not sure losing 42 dollars and some pills is the horror story subby suggests.

If these are the consequences of not locking your door guess its not a big deal.

Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.
 
2013-02-11 10:32:35 PM
My wife always locks the doors. If I go out to mow the lawn, I have to remember to take my keys, or else I am not getting in the house.
 
2013-02-11 10:34:04 PM
Locks only keep out honest people.
 
2013-02-11 10:35:39 PM

nerftaig: Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.


If you pour gasoline over your head and start striking matches, I believe I will assign you some amount of blame for not foreseeing the obvious consequences of your actions.
 
2013-02-11 10:36:10 PM
Or posting a sign saying your neighbor is against owning guns and you won't defend them...and idiots thinking it's a really photo and wanting to know the address of said person to post "free stuff" on Craigslist.
 
2013-02-11 10:36:25 PM
I have one car that I never lock. It sits on the street every night. 8 years now and nothing has ever been taken. Not that I leave anything in it.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:07 PM
Are you blaming the victim, subby? Was it because of what she was wearing? Cause I've always been told that the victim bears no responsibility for being victimized.
 
2013-02-11 10:39:43 PM

Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: nerftaig: Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.

If you pour gasoline over your head and start striking matches, I believe I will assign you some amount of blame for not foreseeing the obvious consequences of your actions.


The matches have no agency. I fail to see the merit in your analogy. Lighting the matches on yourself and having matches lit on you are very different things.

Are you implying being flammable is just asking for a murderin'? If I had a flamethrower and you were in front of me wouldn't you be asking for it? Isn't it really your fault?
 
2013-02-11 10:40:02 PM

wildsnowllama: Locks only keep out honest people.


The way I see it, making the bad guy kick in the door provides my dogs and I with a few seconds warning.  The Remington 870 is only one second away.
 
2013-02-11 10:44:16 PM

AngryTeacher: My wife always locks the doors. If I go out to mow the lawn, I have to remember to take my keys, or else I am not getting in the house.


Whats the name of the "the"  lawn a and how long time do it take and do you get a room ?
 
2013-02-11 10:45:15 PM
Like my retired cop step-dad says: "Locking your car or home door only keeps honest people honest."

I still lock my doors, but I know he's right. If a determined criminal wants to get into my house, it's easy enough.
 
2013-02-11 10:45:39 PM
Junky lady only had the heart to nick half of the pain pills in a touching display of empathy.
 
2013-02-11 10:47:35 PM

nerftaig: Im not sure losing 42 dollars and some pills is the horror story subby suggests.

If these are the consequences of not locking your door guess its not a big deal.

Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.


What's with people and this phony "blaming the victim" shiat?  What a bunch of self-entitled assholes people in this country have become.  "I shouldn't HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NOT <locking my door> <walking down dark alleys> <securing my valuables> <taking drinks from strange (or fray boys) people>."  Listen idiots...nothing bad should happen to you, but guess what?  Bad shiat happens.  It's not VICTIM BLAMING.  It's taking an active role in protecting yourself.

/Wu Tang said it best, "Protect ya (got damn) neck."
 
2013-02-11 10:49:21 PM

Ima4nic8or: I have one car that I never lock. It sits on the street every night. 8 years now and nothing has ever been taken. Not that I leave anything in it.


Nothing has ever been taken, but I've been sleeping in your car for 8 years.

Could you please get some new music and an air freshener?
 
2013-02-11 10:50:58 PM

Craptastic: Like my retired cop step-dad says: "Locking your car or home door only keeps honest people honest."

I still lock my doors, but I know he's right. If a determined criminal wants to get into my house, it's easy enough.


That's the thing - most aren't all that determined. There are usually easier targets and unless they know you have something specific they want, they'll move on.
 
2013-02-11 10:51:12 PM

nerftaig: Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: nerftaig: Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.

If you pour gasoline over your head and start striking matches, I believe I will assign you some amount of blame for not foreseeing the obvious consequences of your actions.

The matches have no agency. I fail to see the merit in your analogy. Lighting the matches on yourself and having matches lit on you are very different things.


Any path of action that is predicated on the belief that nothing bad will happen to you so long as all men are angels is destined to collide with reality sooner or later, sometimes violently so.

Are you to "blame" if your wallet is missing after you get likkered up and pass out on an urban street corner at 3 AM on a Saturday morning?  I suppose not.  On the other hand, you put yourself in a position where your victimization was easily foreseeable and easily avoidable, and yet you chose not to foresee it or to avoid it.

Should the person who took it be subject to any lesser punishment because of what you did?  Certainly not.  But I still reserve the right to describe you as naïve, if I'm feeling charitable.  Perhaps I'll use somewhat less charitable language, depending on my mood at the time.
 
2013-02-11 10:52:52 PM
Canadians don't lock their doors though!

We should be like Canada.... right guys? I saw that one documentary that said we should.
 
2013-02-11 10:53:12 PM
It is victim blaming. This thread is actively about how a woman was dumb. That is blaming.

If you actually want to bring rape into this you can go fark yourself. This is not about teaching people to increase their odds of safety, (I dont grant that teaching people requires shaming them). This is about thinking about crime in a different way.

It is never the rape victims fault ever. Ever ever. fark yourself and die.
 
2013-02-11 10:54:29 PM
The unlocked door isn't the problem. Others knowing you have street-salable drugs and not keeping them well hidden? Big problem.

Guns are just another thing to be stolen if you are not home. Locked doors only work to the extent that neighbors will hear and report the sound of breaking glass. Beware of dog: a little more effective, judging by drug houses I've seen recently.
 
2013-02-11 10:57:18 PM
Old people make mistakes, film at 11.
 
2013-02-11 10:57:48 PM
She clearly isn't too concerned about her earthly possessions. And dearth of common sense.
 
2013-02-11 10:59:04 PM
CSB: Lived in small county seat town in IA in'80's. Guy I worked with hadn't had a vacation for more than 2 days in @ 10 years. I cover his job while he takes wife away for two weeks. They return, front door is open, nothing out of place. He asks neighbors about it. "We just thought you did it on purpose."

Miss the good old days.
 
2013-02-11 10:59:33 PM

nerftaig: It is victim blaming. This thread is actively about how a woman was dumb. That is blaming.

If you actually want to bring rape into this you can go fark yourself. This is not about teaching people to increase their odds of safety, (I dont grant that teaching people requires shaming them). This is about thinking about crime in a different way.

It is never the rape victims fault ever. Ever ever. fark yourself and die.


Feel better?  Here's a tip: bad people actually exist, and they want to do bad things to you.  Try to live your life in such a way as to take that fact into account.  You'll be happier in the long run.
 
2013-02-11 11:05:37 PM
I lock my house doors.  Didn't stop the burglars from kicking in the back door (ripping the dead bolt from the door) while I was out.
 
2013-02-11 11:06:37 PM

signaljammer: Junky lady only had the heart to nick half of the pain pills in a touching display of empathy.


Yeah, she took the half that was left.

Craptastic: Like my retired cop step-dad says: "Locking your car or home door only keeps honest people honest."


And for the rest, there are claymores.
 
2013-02-11 11:06:42 PM

signaljammer: Junky lady only had the heart to nick half of the pain pills in a touching display of empathy.


This. Makes the thief much less reprehensible, call me callous, but that is a random act of kindness in midst of a crime.
Not to mention, I'm 53, and I'd split the bootie, then split the bootie, so to speak.
 
2013-02-11 11:07:56 PM

nerftaig: Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.


untaken_name: Are you blaming the victim, subby? Was it because of what she was wearing? Cause I've always been told that the victim bears no responsibility for being victimized.


I see my work here is already done.
 
2013-02-11 11:10:19 PM

Ima4nic8or: I have one car that I never lock. It sits on the street every night. 8 years now and nothing has ever been taken. Not that I leave anything in it.


The way I figure, I've got nothing in the car that is more expensive than the windows, so...
 
2013-02-11 11:12:49 PM

nerftaig: Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.


Oh this is an awesome feelgood battlecry.  Bullshiat. From the robbed to the raped, the victim HAS RESPONSIBILITY to prevent it from happening.  Here is why: If you remove any responsibility from the victim, you then remove any power from that victim to change his situation. It is walking into the conversation pretending the way the world should, be as opposed to seeing it for the way it is.
 
2013-02-11 11:17:48 PM

Yogimus: nerftaig: Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.

Oh this is an awesome feelgood battlecry.  Bullshiat. From the robbed to the raped, the victim HAS RESPONSIBILITY to prevent it from happening.  Here is why: If you remove any responsibility from the victim, you then remove any power from that victim to change his situation. It is walking into the conversation pretending the way the world should, be as opposed to seeing it for the way it is.


You monster. Next, you'll be telling me that insurance companies won't pay your claim if you didn't make any effort to secure your property, such as if your car is stolen because you left the keys in it.
 
2013-02-11 11:20:47 PM

untaken_name: Yogimus: nerftaig: Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.

Oh this is an awesome feelgood battlecry.  Bullshiat. From the robbed to the raped, the victim HAS RESPONSIBILITY to prevent it from happening.  Here is why: If you remove any responsibility from the victim, you then remove any power from that victim to change his situation. It is walking into the conversation pretending the way the world should, be as opposed to seeing it for the way it is.

You monster. Next, you'll be telling me that insurance companies won't pay your claim if you didn't make any effort to secure your property, such as if your car is stolen because you left the keys in it.


Here is the funny part: Rapes went down on our station when we decided to teach women how not to get raped. 2 years later, some farknut came in and preached "WE SHOULD TEACH MEN NOT TO RAPE!!!!!", and rapes went right the hell back.  Because you can either take responsibility of your own safety, or you can explain your ingrained human perogative to live your life without being raped between blasts on your rape whistle as he matches his thrusts to your sobs.
 
2013-02-11 11:21:28 PM

Happy Hours: Craptastic: Like my retired cop step-dad says: "Locking your car or home door only keeps honest people honest."

I still lock my doors, but I know he's right. If a determined criminal wants to get into my house, it's easy enough.

That's the thing - most aren't all that determined. There are usually easier targets and unless they know you have something specific they want, they'll move on.


Pretty much this. Sure, any determined thief can get into your house--but if it's just some junkie rattling door knobs, which most of them are, a locked door is going to keep him out. If you have the fatalistic attitude "Oh, they can get in if they want" then why not just leave the front door wide open and arrows pointing to the most valuable items? Why not just live in a barren tent?

A predator is a predator, whether it's a lion or a thief. Lions don't chase healthy antelopes who watch them approach; and thieves don't rob houses with locked doors and windows. Unless the lion is starving or the thief knows for some reason you have a stash of loose diamonds and unmarked cash in hour house. There's pretty much two kinds of homes that get burglarized: homes in poor neighborhoods where everyone is desperate for money, and homes in wealthy neighborhoods where thieves know there are lots of salable items lying around and the risk is worth the reward. The rest of us pretty much just need to keep the doors locked.
 
2013-02-11 11:34:29 PM

Yogimus: untaken_name: Yogimus: nerftaig: Blaming the victim of a crime is rarely helpful at all and often very very wrong. I don't see why we should do it here.

Oh this is an awesome feelgood battlecry.  Bullshiat. From the robbed to the raped, the victim HAS RESPONSIBILITY to prevent it from happening.  Here is why: If you remove any responsibility from the victim, you then remove any power from that victim to change his situation. It is walking into the conversation pretending the way the world should, be as opposed to seeing it for the way it is.

You monster. Next, you'll be telling me that insurance companies won't pay your claim if you didn't make any effort to secure your property, such as if your car is stolen because you left the keys in it.

Here is the funny part: Rapes went down on our station when we decided to teach women how not to get raped. 2 years later, some farknut came in and preached "WE SHOULD TEACH MEN NOT TO RAPE!!!!!", and rapes went right the hell back.  Because you can either take responsibility of your own safety, or you can explain your ingrained human perogative to live your life without being raped between blasts on your rape whistle as he matches his thrusts to your sobs.


People want to live as if their god-given right to do what they want was, well, god-given, and that somehow someone who was inclined to commit crimes was going to be responsible enough to know he should not commit them so that law-abiding citizens could go about their lives. Which sounds totally asinine when you say it out loud, but I've heard completely rational people say it. Especially in the rape scenario: "Women should be able to party/drink/walk outside after dark without being afraid of being attacked!" Well, sure, in a perfect world that we don't and never have lived in; but since that's not where we are, women need to take a little extra care to not get raped. Maybe that's not fair, but nobody promised you fair. Ditto for having to lock your doors to prevent burglary, etc.

Nobody is "blaming" the victim as if the victim wanted to be robbed or raped or beaten. But some crimes certainly are preventable or avoidable, and since we don't live in a perfect world where nobody commits crimes, if YOU don't want to be that victim, then it's on you to lock your doors, not drink too much at parties, and not count your money standing at ATMs late at night. Nobody promised you fair.
 
2013-02-11 11:37:34 PM
Just as smart as this guy.

www.wired.com
 
2013-02-11 11:40:35 PM

nerftaig: It is victim blaming. This thread is actively about how a woman was dumb. That is blaming.

If you actually want to bring rape into this you can go fark yourself. This is not about teaching people to increase their odds of safety, (I dont grant that teaching people requires shaming them). This is about thinking about crime in a different way.

It is never the rape victims fault ever. Ever ever. fark yourself and die.


Shut the fark up.  Seriously...you're probably a reason why people get raped. You tell them they're entitled not to experience said trauma and it happens instead of responsibly informing them about how to prevent it.
 
2013-02-11 11:55:03 PM
'I see you and spike sees you'
 
2013-02-12 12:01:26 AM

nerftaig: It is victim blaming. This thread is actively about how a woman was dumb. That is blaming.

If you actually want to bring rape into this you can go fark yourself. This is not about teaching people to increase their odds of safety, (I dont grant that teaching people requires shaming them). This is about thinking about crime in a different way.

It is never the rape victims fault ever. Ever ever. fark yourself and die.


not one post mentioned rape until you brought it up. you're quite the little dooshbag aren't you.
 
2013-02-12 12:12:08 AM
I've never understood why anyone would leave their house or car for more than 5m without locking the doors. Is it really such a huge burden to turn a key in a lock? Why not lock your doors wherever you live, just because it's the intelligent thing to do?

Is it just so you can brag about living somewhere that "I don't have to lock my doors"?
 
2013-02-12 12:17:06 AM

100 Watt Walrus: I've never understood why anyone would leave their house or car for more than 5m without locking the doors. Is it really such a huge burden to turn a key in a lock? Why not lock your doors wherever you live, just because it's the intelligent thing to do?

Is it just so you can brag about living somewhere that "I don't have to lock my doors"?


As stated before, I keep absolutely nothing in my car that is worth more than a window.

1. I can't lock keys in my car
2. I live in a cold state, doors freeze
3. I can get into my car faster when a zombie horde is upon me, and I don't deal with that whole "i dropped my keys" bit
4. No looking for the keyhole in the dark
5. It is hard to unlock car doors when you are trying to jam a tied up rapevictim into the back seat.
 
2013-02-12 12:29:10 AM

100 Watt Walrus: Why not lock your doors wherever you live, just because it's the intelligent thing to do?


Because I'd rather have some of my stuff stolen than have some of my stuff stolen AND have to replace the window or door that they broke to get in.
 
2013-02-12 12:29:41 AM
I live in north Georgia and have forgotten to lock my doors a few times. Hell, one night I left the garage door open and two of my bikes had the keys in them. Never had a problem

When I lived in South Florida if I didn't lock everything up something would get stolen. I love living in an area where most people are still honest

Where I live neighbors are nosy enough to call when something doesn't seem right but not nosy enough to get in your hair. I love it here.
 
2013-02-12 12:46:13 AM

nerftaig: It is victim blaming. This thread is actively about how a woman was dumb. That is blaming.

If you actually want to bring rape into this you can go fark yourself. This is not about teaching people to increase their odds of safety, (I dont grant that teaching people requires shaming them). This is about thinking about crime in a different way.

It is never the rape victims fault ever. Ever ever. fark yourself and die.


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