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(WTOP)   He's already taken your tobacco, soft drinks, and trans-fats, but America's nanny, Mayor Bloomberg, isn't finished yet. Now he's coming for your salt   (wtop.com) divider line 234
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2013-02-11 08:53:08 PM
But he's a benevolent authoritarian. So It's okay.
 
2013-02-11 08:58:10 PM
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-11 09:27:07 PM
There was a state assemblyman from NYC some years ago that tried to ban restaurants from using salt in any form in any way. Even made it to Fark.

http://www.fark.com/comments/5099454/NY-lawmaker-achieves-piNaCle-of -s tupid
 
2013-02-11 09:40:33 PM
But, how will we get our iodine?

/ iodine is important for living
 
2013-02-11 09:41:02 PM
I read once that he puts salt on everything.
 
2013-02-11 09:41:13 PM
Why do people keep electing this idiot?  He should move to Britain where his nanny state liberalism would be welcome.
 
2013-02-11 09:41:19 PM
And George Carlin thought he was only after our money.
 
2013-02-11 09:41:37 PM
It's pretty lame that salt gets such a bad rap. Yes, it temporarily raises blood pressure due to extra water retention. But give it a few hours and blood pressure is back to normal. That salt is bad for us is one of those weird myths that have been handed down for decades without solid evidence.

I suppose it's good to see it dropping back to palatable levels, but as far as healthiness is concerned, there's no real change here.
 
2013-02-11 09:42:52 PM
mimg.ugo.com

Fine, take her, I don't care.
 
2013-02-11 09:42:59 PM
Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.
 
2013-02-11 09:43:05 PM

iheartscotch: But, how will we get our iodine?

/ iodine is important for living


Agree.

Food needs salt... I think he's thinking of the "high blood pressure" salt intake kind. He just wants a happier, healthier peoples, people. Someone's gotta lay the smack-down on the salt addicts.
 
2013-02-11 09:43:39 PM
When are you children going to figure out that you don't, in fact, know what's best for you?
 
2013-02-11 09:44:44 PM

Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.


yeah, bloomberg is the posterboy for the green party, 100% pure liberal.
 
F42
2013-02-11 09:45:14 PM
President Schwarzenegger.
 
2013-02-11 09:45:16 PM
I'll give him something salty
 
2013-02-11 09:45:55 PM

Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.


Yet, they applaud morons like him when it comes to gun control.
 
2013-02-11 09:46:39 PM

CheezieDanish: iheartscotch: But, how will we get our iodine?

/ iodine is important for living

Agree.

Food needs salt... I think he's thinking of the "high blood pressure" salt intake kind. He just wants a happier, healthier peoples, people. Someone's gotta lay the smack-down on the salt addicts.


You know; breathing raises your blood pressure. We should ban breathing. Breathing has been shown to be linked to carbon dioxide production.
 
2013-02-11 09:47:18 PM
It contains two deadly elements and therefore must be banned, duh

/next up - high capacity shakers
 
2013-02-11 09:47:37 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's pretty lame that salt gets such a bad rap. Yes, it temporarily raises blood pressure due to extra water retention. But give it a few hours and blood pressure is back to normal. That salt is bad for us is one of those weird myths that have been handed down for decades without solid evidence.

I suppose it's good to see it dropping back to palatable levels, but as far as healthiness is concerned, there's no real change here.


All of this, if youre not predisposed to hypertension and have a functioning renal system you can eat as much salt as you want as long as you drink enough water to flush it out. But its probably for the best, might make companies have to make their products taste like something instead of 3x your daily recommended intake of salt. Im looking at you campbells soup.
 
2013-02-11 09:47:47 PM
Honestly, though?  Most prepared foods WAY farking oversalt.  Hate that so much.  Undersalt?  You can just add more salt.  Oversalt?  It's ruined.
 
2013-02-11 09:48:01 PM
Its easier than doing something to help new yorkers weather all these storms. Plow the snow or ban salt? Hmmmm
 
2013-02-11 09:49:23 PM

PhiloeBedoe: [i1079.photobucket.com image 605x412]


ISWYDT
 
2013-02-11 09:51:20 PM

HighlanderRPI: /next up - high capacity shakers


And industrial-grade grinders. We need training and registration for anything larger than a paper packet.
 
2013-02-11 09:51:32 PM
I hate to be the one to spoil your persecution fantasies, but it's trivially easy to get soda in NYC.
 
2013-02-11 09:51:39 PM
Why do people vote for this paternalistic douchebag?  It's hard to find a more awful human being in charge of a city; he even makes Rahm Emmanuel look good for crying out loud
 
2013-02-11 09:51:50 PM
Up next: the franchise wars

www.digitalbusstop.com
 
2013-02-11 09:52:08 PM

iheartscotch: But, how will we get our iodine?


The same way we got iodine before some salt was iodized:  From vegetables.

This is actually a voluntary program.  And, yes, salt is way overused in processed foods, and there are a variety of health risks associated with over-consumption of salt.
 
2013-02-11 09:52:38 PM
New Yorkers are pathetic for allowing this to happen to them.

Congratulations on your animal farm society morons.
 
2013-02-11 09:53:34 PM
Well its too be expected, after solving NYs crime, crumbling infrastructure, etc.
 
2013-02-11 09:54:41 PM
Use sea salt. It's got a stronger flavor, so you end up using less. Everybody wins. You get the flavor, you use less, and you still get the salt in your diet. Bloomberg can eat a dick, though.

I DO hate people who salt shiat without tasting it first, though. About the only thing that works with is salad, since people don't usually use spices when putting together a basic salad. Salting other food before even bothering to taste it is an insult to whomever cooked it, and should result in a flogging.

I heard years ago that high-level job interviews for IBM involved dinner, and it was noted if you salted your food before tasting it, the reasoning being that if you didn't trust the chef to do his job, you were probably an egotistical jerk who couldn't work well in a team setting. No idea if it's true, but I support the idea...
 
2013-02-11 09:55:46 PM
Yeah, it's completely awful that New Yorkers might not die of obesity quite as quickly as the rest of the country.

/yes, salt's danger is overhyped.
//but god.  Non-New Yorkers, shut up about how "bad" it must be to live under "tyrannical" laws you have no ideas about.
 
2013-02-11 09:56:35 PM

Cyno01: AverageAmericanGuy: It's pretty lame that salt gets such a bad rap. Yes, it temporarily raises blood pressure due to extra water retention. But give it a few hours and blood pressure is back to normal. That salt is bad for us is one of those weird myths that have been handed down for decades without solid evidence.

I suppose it's good to see it dropping back to palatable levels, but as far as healthiness is concerned, there's no real change here.

All of this, if youre not predisposed to hypertension and have a functioning renal system you can eat as much salt as you want as long as you drink enough water to flush it out. But its probably for the best, might make companies have to make their products taste like something instead of 3x your daily recommended intake of salt. Im looking at you campbells soup.


They have the low sodium soups but oddly, they taste like crap.
 
2013-02-11 09:58:18 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Honestly, though?  Most prepared foods WAY farking oversalt.  Hate that so much.  Undersalt?  You can just add more salt.  Oversalt?  It's ruined.


Yeah, I used to live on Campbell's condensed soups until I started reading the labels. Some of them have 60-70% of your RDA of sodium.
 
2013-02-11 09:59:31 PM

MagicMissile: New Yorkers are pathetic for allowing this to happen to them.

Congratulations on your animal farm society morons.


Yes. George Orwell's cautionary tale was obviously all about resturaunt regulations.
 
2013-02-11 09:59:35 PM

Frank N Stein: But he's a benevolent authoritarian. So It's okay.


Those (mostly minority) folks who have been stopped-and-frisked for no reason may not agree that he's benevolent.  An authoritarian, yes.
 
2013-02-11 09:59:41 PM
I love salt.  In high school, I would eat salt packets.  Sometimes I still get cravings.  I make hard boiled eggs just to have something to put salt on.
 
2013-02-11 10:01:03 PM

iheartscotch: But, how will we get our iodine?

/ iodine is important for living


Wanna have some fun? GIS "
Krokodil" for the opposite of no-iodine fun!!!
 
2013-02-11 10:01:11 PM

Hickory-smoked: MagicMissile: New Yorkers are pathetic for allowing this to happen to them.

Congratulations on your animal farm society morons.

Yes. George Orwell's cautionary tale was obviously all about resturaunt regulations.


I think you need to look at the big picture in NY and how it is influencing other states and then go re read that book...
 
2013-02-11 10:01:42 PM

Cyno01: But its probably for the best, might make companies have to make their products taste like something instead of 3x your daily recommended intake of salt. Im looking at you campbells soup.


At least Campbell's Soup has low salt versions of their soups (well, the only 2 I'll buy anyway, Chicken Noodle and Tomato),

Frozen meals often have ruthless levels of sodium. Stouffer's makes some things that just taste like salt and even after you finish them your mouth will just taste like salt.

I know they're crap, but they're cheap and easy but even though they're small some of them are over 40% of the RDA.

Healthy Choice at least doesn't taste like salt and actually has vegetables even though their desserts suck and boil over in the microwave about half the time which gets messy. I actually prefer the ones without desserts.

Stouffer's idea of including vegetables is a thimblefull of broccoli or maybe a couple of peas...or mashed potatoes.
 
2013-02-11 10:02:26 PM

Dafatone: Yeah, it's completely awful that New Yorkers might not die of obesity quite as quickly as the rest of the country.

/yes, salt's danger is overhyped.
//but god.  Non-New Yorkers, shut up about how "bad" it must be to live under "tyrannical" laws you have no ideas about.


Government must play daddy to all the 21+ year old babies that new york contains. How else will these little titans of liberal society keep themselves from gorging on bad foods and hurting themselves? By being responsible for themselves? HAH! That is nonsense!
 
2013-02-11 10:03:09 PM

Hickory-smoked: MagicMissile: New Yorkers are pathetic for allowing this to happen to them.

Congratulations on your animal farm society morons.

Yes. George Orwell's cautionary tale was obviously all about resturaunt regulations.


Mmmmm.....donkey proletariat sandwich...
 
2013-02-11 10:03:24 PM

fusillade762: Yeah, I used to live on Campbell's condensed soups until I started reading the labels. Some of them have 60-70% of your RDA of sodium


Hell man, couldn't you taste it?  It's freaking overpowering in a lot of their soups.
 
2013-02-11 10:04:17 PM
I have no problem with restaurants/fast food joints/pre-processed foods having less salt in them. I can always add my own (until we start getting patted down for salt shakers in our pockets). My Mom always said "I put salt in that while it was cooking." Yeah, except cooking takes the flavor OUT of whatever salt you put in, unless it's a shiatload. Pretty much every time I eat a vegetable (w/the exception of potatos and tomatos) it's getting a dose of NaCL. Never use it on meat, pork, seafood or poultry. Occasionally on fish.
 
2013-02-11 10:04:52 PM

Mikey1969: Use sea salt. It's got a stronger flavor, so you end up using less. Everybody wins. You get the flavor, you use less, and you still get the salt in your diet. Bloomberg can eat a dick, though.

I DO hate people who salt shiat without tasting it first, though. About the only thing that works with is salad, since people don't usually use spices when putting together a basic salad. Salting other food before even bothering to taste it is an insult to whomever cooked it, and should result in a flogging.

I heard years ago that high-level job interviews for IBM involved dinner, and it was noted if you salted your food before tasting it, the reasoning being that if you didn't trust the chef to do his job, you were probably an egotistical jerk who couldn't work well in a team setting. No idea if it's true, but I support the idea...


No it doesnt. NaCL is NaCL. If anything, sea salt is LESS salty because of all the trace minerals, compared to table salt with a touch of iodine or pure koshering or pickling/popcorn salt. I mean the minerals can give more of a depth of flavor, which is one of the reasons to use sea salt, but its not saltier...

Also i dont think ive ever seen someone salt a salad. You shouldnt have to if the dressing is properly seasoned, but even then, i cant say ive ever seen someone salt a salad.
 
2013-02-11 10:05:03 PM
It's just historically hilarious that our "Free Minded, Liberal, Elite Thinkers" pick a god da*mn billionaire robber baron fascist doucebag to be their Leader. Haahaha. No smoking in parks. No trans fat. No soft drinks over a size.

You soft-minded neoliberal fascists just have to have a dictator type to lord over you and instruct you in every way - you just can't go on without that level control in you life. You simply do not know what to do without it. You are simpletons, and you will listen for your instructions, and you will do as you are told.
 
2013-02-11 10:05:28 PM

Happy Hours: Cyno01: But its probably for the best, might make companies have to make their products taste like something instead of 3x your daily recommended intake of salt. Im looking at you campbells soup.

At least Campbell's Soup has low salt versions of their soups (well, the only 2 I'll buy anyway, Chicken Noodle and Tomato),

Frozen meals often have ruthless levels of sodium. Stouffer's makes some things that just taste like salt and even after you finish them your mouth will just taste like salt.

I know they're crap, but they're cheap and easy but even though they're small some of them are over 40% of the RDA.

Healthy Choice at least doesn't taste like salt and actually has vegetables even though their desserts suck and boil over in the microwave about half the time which gets messy. I actually prefer the ones without desserts.

Stouffer's idea of including vegetables is a thimblefull of broccoli or maybe a couple of peas...or mashed potatoes.


Ever notice how a Lean Cuisine package has the Stouffers logo on it?
 
2013-02-11 10:06:55 PM

fusillade762: Satanic_Hamster: Honestly, though?  Most prepared foods WAY farking oversalt.  Hate that so much.  Undersalt?  You can just add more salt.  Oversalt?  It's ruined.

Yeah, I used to live on Campbell's condensed soups until I started reading the labels. Some of them have 60-70% of your RDA of sodium.


Ramen noodles? Something like 85% of RDA sodium. I figure the 1 I have every 6 weeks won't kill me.

Moderationmoderationmoderation.
 
2013-02-11 10:07:38 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Honestly, though?  Most prepared foods WAY farking oversalt.  Hate that so much.  Undersalt?  You can just add more salt.  Oversalt?  It's ruined.


Exactly!  I don't have a problem with this.  There doesn't need to be salt in everything.  If you want salt in it, put it there yourself.  It's really not that difficult.
 
2013-02-11 10:08:05 PM
Hey - you know what Mayor Bloomberg writes on walls?  "Look out!  KILL-JOY was here!"
 
2013-02-11 10:08:15 PM
It's all about building a totalitarian state

It's time to end our war on salt.
 
2013-02-11 10:09:09 PM

Dafatone: Yeah, it's completely awful that New Yorkers might not die of obesity quite as quickly as the rest of the country.

/yes, salt's danger is overhyped.
//but god.  Non-New Yorkers, shut up about how "bad" it must be to live under "tyrannical" laws you have no ideas about.


Actually, we'll talk shiat about your nanny-state lawmakers and the dumb ass constituents that elect them all we want.

/also, "who" are you randomly "attributing" those "quotes" to?
 
2013-02-11 10:09:19 PM
Back off Bloomy.

tomhendersonsblog.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-11 10:09:41 PM

debug: Satanic_Hamster: Honestly, though?  Most prepared foods WAY farking oversalt.  Hate that so much.  Undersalt?  You can just add more salt.  Oversalt?  It's ruined.

Exactly!  I don't have a problem with this.  There doesn't need to be salt in everything.  If you want salt in it, put it there yourself.  It's really not that difficult.


But having to salt my own food is fascism...
 
2013-02-11 10:09:48 PM

MagicMissile: New Yorkers are pathetic for allowing this to happen to them.

Congratulations on your animal farm society morons.


If you don't like it, don't live in NYC.  I'm sure that they will miss you and the other hayseeds.
 
2013-02-11 10:10:23 PM

Cyno01: Mikey1969: Use sea salt. It's got a stronger flavor, so you end up using less. Everybody wins. You get the flavor, you use less, and you still get the salt in your diet. Bloomberg can eat a dick, though.

I DO hate people who salt shiat without tasting it first, though. About the only thing that works with is salad, since people don't usually use spices when putting together a basic salad. Salting other food before even bothering to taste it is an insult to whomever cooked it, and should result in a flogging.

I heard years ago that high-level job interviews for IBM involved dinner, and it was noted if you salted your food before tasting it, the reasoning being that if you didn't trust the chef to do his job, you were probably an egotistical jerk who couldn't work well in a team setting. No idea if it's true, but I support the idea...


You have got to be kidding me. Fark IBM.

Also i dont think ive ever seen someone salt a salad. You shouldnt have to if the dressing is properly seasoned, but even then, i cant say ive ever seen someone salt a salad.

Me either.
 
2013-02-11 10:10:31 PM

John Buck 41: I have no problem with restaurants/fast food joints/pre-processed foods having less salt in them. I can always add my own (until we start getting patted down for salt shakers in our pockets). My Mom always said "I put salt in that while it was cooking." Yeah, except cooking takes the flavor OUT of whatever salt you put in, unless it's a shiatload. Pretty much every time I eat a vegetable (w/the exception of potatos and tomatos) it's getting a dose of NaCL. Never use it on meat, pork, seafood or poultry. Occasionally on fish.


Not to knock you, but you don't really know much about proper salt application.
 
2013-02-11 10:12:23 PM

WhoopAssWayne: It's just historically hilarious that our "Free Minded, Liberal, Elite Thinkers" pick a god da*mn billionaire robber baron fascist doucebag to be their Leader. Haahaha. No smoking in parks. No trans fat. No soft drinks over a size.

You soft-minded neoliberal fascists just have to have a dictator type to lord over you and instruct you in every way - you just can't go on without that level control in you life. You simply do not know what to do without it. You are simpletons, and you will listen for your instructions, and you will do as you are told.


I would type out a response to that, but I'm waiting for my instructions from George Soros.  He's running late for some damn reason.
 
2013-02-11 10:12:57 PM
The only regulation Bloomberg came across that he didn't like was limiting his term.
 
2013-02-11 10:14:10 PM
Here is something to think about....

Link

Seems reasonable when you think about the lack of science in the old times.
 
2013-02-11 10:14:17 PM

max_pooper: Ever notice how a Lean Cuisine package has the Stouffers logo on it?


Nope, but I'm not surprised - there is not as much choice in manufacturers in grocery stores as their brands would have us believe.

I'm not watching my calories, but I do try to avoid megadoses of salt.....even though Stouffer's is like that.
 
2013-02-11 10:15:12 PM
So this is why Kraft Mac and Cheese tastes different now! Damn him!!
 
2013-02-11 10:15:58 PM
Does he realize that all this silliness means he'll be right up there with The Donald if he wants to run for POTUS.
 
2013-02-11 10:16:41 PM
The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?
 
2013-02-11 10:16:50 PM
People, like corporations, can choose to go the low salt route.  The government, however, should not be trying to force people to eat healthy.  So, yeah, the voluntary salt initiative is great and all, but it should remain just that, voluntary, without any downside or penalty for opting out.
 
2013-02-11 10:17:02 PM
must be fun to project like a farking IMAX camera, huh, WhoopyWayne?
 
2013-02-11 10:18:38 PM
Up next on the Bloomberg ban list: Sugar, chocolate, toilet paper...
 
2013-02-11 10:18:50 PM
I don't have a problem with less salt being put in things.  There's just too damn much of it IMO.  Really unnecessary from a culinary perspective.

I DO, on the other hand, have a problem with a mayor who thinks he's your mommy and has to tell you what to do.  And what not to do.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:03 PM
s12.postimage.org

This man is a genius!
 
2013-02-11 10:19:17 PM

Kit Fister: Frank N Stein: John Buck 41: I have no problem with restaurants/fast food joints/pre-processed foods having less salt in them. I can always add my own (until we start getting patted down for salt shakers in our pockets). My Mom always said "I put salt in that while it was cooking." Yeah, except cooking takes the flavor OUT of whatever salt you put in, unless it's a shiatload. Pretty much every time I eat a vegetable (w/the exception of potatos and tomatos) it's getting a dose of NaCL. Never use it on meat, pork, seafood or poultry. Occasionally on fish.

Not to knock you, but you don't really know much about proper salt application.

Salt application, like bath water temperature and short size, is an individual affair, left to the comfort and taste of the person. You don't have to like their choices or think their selections are right, but it ain't your job to correct them.


Come on now. He doesn't put it on meat, as in steak. It is one of the few things you are allowed to put on it.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:24 PM

Mock26: People, like corporations, can choose to go the low salt route.  The government, however, should not be trying to force people to eat healthy.  So, yeah, the voluntary salt initiative is great and all, but it should remain just that, voluntary, without any downside or penalty for opting out.


It should be voluntary, but there needs to be punishments for companies that choose to keep poisoning people.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:29 PM

CuttySupreme: Why do people keep electing this idiot?  He should move to Britain where his nanny state liberalism would be welcome.


I'm not a New Yorker, so I shouldn't really give a f#ck, but... this.  Everything I read about this guy makes him sound like a bitter poor person's imaginings of what a douchebag billionaire would be like.
 
2013-02-11 10:20:11 PM
BAN SALT WEAPONS!
 
2013-02-11 10:20:35 PM

CuttySupreme: Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.

Yet, they applaud morons like him when it comes to gun control.


Wait, he's not a liberal, he's a centrist, no a progressive, maybe a moderate, or a neo-Wig, or . . . god does he give liberal thought a bad name.
 
2013-02-11 10:20:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eohHwsplvY Great song critical of the Bloomberg New York.....

/New Yorker for the last 27 years
//overall think that the man has done more good than harm
 
2013-02-11 10:21:20 PM

Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?


Explain how laws against homosexuality equate to a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium levels of prepared foods?
 
2013-02-11 10:21:58 PM

Brew78: I don't have a problem with less salt being put in things.  There's just too damn much of it IMO.  Really unnecessary from a culinary perspective.

I DO, on the other hand, have a problem with a mayor who thinks he's your mommy and has to tell you what to do.  And what not to do.


BULLSHIAT!

Bloomberg is a GOOD MAN!


/Salt of the earth, he is
 
2013-02-11 10:22:40 PM
There is an awesome liquid out there that removes excess salt from your body.  Drink lots of it. Problem solved.
 
2013-02-11 10:22:50 PM

Frank N Stein: John Buck 41: I have no problem with restaurants/fast food joints/pre-processed foods having less salt in them. I can always add my own (until we start getting patted down for salt shakers in our pockets). My Mom always said "I put salt in that while it was cooking." Yeah, except cooking takes the flavor OUT of whatever salt you put in, unless it's a shiatload. Pretty much every time I eat a vegetable (w/the exception of potatos and tomatos) it's getting a dose of NaCL. Never use it on meat, pork, seafood or poultry. Occasionally on fish.

Not to knock you, but you don't really know much about proper salt application.


Enlighten me.
 
2013-02-11 10:22:53 PM

Dafatone: Yeah, it's completely awful that New Yorkers might not die of obesity quite as quickly as the rest of the country.

/yes, salt's danger is overhyped.
//but god.  Non-New Yorkers, shut up about how "bad" it must be to live under "tyrannical" laws you have no ideas about.


We couldn't care less if it's bad or not, you pack of idiots
 
2013-02-11 10:23:23 PM

Psycoholic_Slag: There is an awesome liquid out there that removes excess salt from your body.  Drink lots of it. Problem solved.


We should sell this stuff in NYC. We could make a mint.
 
2013-02-11 10:24:50 PM

umad: Psycoholic_Slag: There is an awesome liquid out there that removes excess salt from your body.  Drink lots of it. Problem solved.

We should sell this stuff in NYC. We could make a mint.



Bloomberg would only ban it,
 
2013-02-11 10:24:52 PM
The benevolent Dr. Raymond Cocteau?  Yes, I've heard of him.
 
2013-02-11 10:25:07 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: It's pretty lame that salt gets such a bad rap. Yes, it temporarily raises blood pressure due to extra water retention. But give it a few hours and blood pressure is back to normal. That salt is bad for us is one of those weird myths that have been handed down for decades without solid evidence.

I suppose it's good to see it dropping back to palatable levels, but as far as healthiness is concerned, there's no real change here.


I guess you would know better than a cardiologist.
 
2013-02-11 10:25:52 PM
Glancing Blow: \

Wait, he's not a liberal, he's a centrist, no a progressive, maybe a moderate, or a neo-Wig, or . . . god does he give liberal thought a bad name.

I prefer to simply refer to Bloomberg as a douchebag.  That label fits him quite nicely I think
 
2013-02-11 10:26:23 PM

Kit Fister: Kittypie070: must be fun to project like a farking IMAX camera, huh, WhoopyWayne?

Well, to be fair, many folks have no problems with fascism as long as it comports with popular opinion. Don't like overweight people for whatever reason? Find ways to criminalize the act of being or becoming overweight.

Today we see a lot of fighting about gay rights, but for the longest time popular opinion supported the discrimination against them, same with racism and so on.

Once again, it ain't the job of government to legislate my daily life and choices, for my own good or not. I have the intrinsic right to eat high fat foods and salty stuff while drinking my two liter of soda. I just have to be willing to be personally responsible for any and all outcomes and results of my choices.


Eating high fat, salty foods and washing it down with 1500 calories of soda is not illegal in New York.
 
2013-02-11 10:26:37 PM

JonBuck: Up next on the Bloomberg ban list: Sugar, chocolate, toilet paper...


I have you favorited with the disclaimer 'for obvious reasons'.

Don't really know why, other than it's cool to see your name pop up from time to time.
 
2013-02-11 10:28:30 PM

umad: Kit Fister: Frank N Stein: John Buck 41: I have no problem with restaurants/fast food joints/pre-processed foods having less salt in them. I can always add my own (until we start getting patted down for salt shakers in our pockets). My Mom always said "I put salt in that while it was cooking." Yeah, except cooking takes the flavor OUT of whatever salt you put in, unless it's a shiatload. Pretty much every time I eat a vegetable (w/the exception of potatos and tomatos) it's getting a dose of NaCL. Never use it on meat, pork, seafood or poultry. Occasionally on fish.

Not to knock you, but you don't really know much about proper salt application.

Salt application, like bath water temperature and short size, is an individual affair, left to the comfort and taste of the person. You don't have to like their choices or think their selections are right, but it ain't your job to correct them.

Come on now. He doesn't put it on meat, as in steak. It is one of the few things you are allowed to put on it.


Salt on steak? You're doing it wrong. Or you're cooking a shiatty piece of meat and/or overcooking it.
 
2013-02-11 10:31:41 PM
I oppose this on principle, and I don't even care on health grounds, but I've had it up to here with the insane amounts of salt in prepackaged food. I don't know if they're skimping on more expensive non-salt preservatives or actual flavor (or maybe they sincerely think the food tastes better that way), but really wish they would just stop.

And I am one of the salad salting freaks. Unless it has dressing or something pickled in.
 
2013-02-11 10:34:12 PM

megarian: iheartscotch: But, how will we get our iodine?

/ iodine is important for living

Wanna have some fun? GIS "
Krokodil" for the opposite of no-iodine fun!!!


What does iodine have to do with addicts shooting up some self cooked crap made from codine and developing gangrene from untreated abscesses, which they continue to not treat because that would prevent them getting high? I agree that it's great shock value to see living rotten corpses though.
 
2013-02-11 10:35:17 PM

GoldSpider: Mock26: People, like corporations, can choose to go the low salt route.  The government, however, should not be trying to force people to eat healthy.  So, yeah, the voluntary salt initiative is great and all, but it should remain just that, voluntary, without any downside or penalty for opting out.

It should be voluntary, but there needs to be punishments for companies that choose to keep poisoning people.


well since we all share the burden of health costs, yeah, the government should be cracking down on the food industries shoving an extra 1000mg per dish down our throat. because it makes your food more "competitive" is a shiaty reason for us to destroy ourselves. this kind of nannystate is infinitely more smarter, reasonable, and necessary than the zomg 8 rounds is too many or zomg semiauto is too fast or zomg pistol grips bad.
 
2013-02-11 10:37:20 PM

bronyaur1: MagicMissile: New Yorkers are pathetic for allowing this to happen to them.

Congratulations on your animal farm society morons.

If you don't like it, don't live in NYC.  I'm sure that they will miss you and the other hayseeds.


We don't miss the subway pushings and piss-soaked smelly sidewalks
 
2013-02-11 10:37:39 PM
The thing that makes Bloomberg so much shiattier than most evil politicians (read: Republicans) is that he is actually succeeding. He is systematically putting through every ridiculous ban and restriction that he can think of, with no sign of resistance.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:07 PM

bronyaur1: MagicMissile: New Yorkers are pathetic for allowing this to happen to them.

Congratulations on your animal farm society morons.

If you don't like it, don't live in NYC.  I'm sure that they will miss you and the other hayseeds.


I would never live in NY or NYC what a piece of trash state and city, chock full of morons.

What we don't like is that NYC thinks that it is Washington D.C and tries to influence other states to adopt what it is doing.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:11 PM
t3.gstatic.com

You'll have to pry the salt away from my cold dead hands.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:58 PM
Yesterday I witnessed my father add salt and butter to canned ravioli because "farking liberal laws made them reduce the salt and fat!"
 
2013-02-11 10:39:20 PM
addy2:

They have the low sodium soups but oddly, they taste like crap.

I once thought as you do. I started eating the low sodium Healthy Choice soups. At first, they seemed overly bland and I needed to add some kind of seasoning. As I was attempting to reduce my sodium intake, I used non-salty seasoning things like Mrs. Dash.
Eventually I stopped using even that, and now the low sodium soups taste plenty salty and delicious [as delicious as a canned soup can anyway] without adding anything.
After getting used to the less salty foods, I once tried to eat some normal Campbell's soup. It was horrific. I couldn't believe I once thought something that salty was 'normal'.
 
2013-02-11 10:39:35 PM

Kit Fister: bronyaur1: MagicMissile: New Yorkers are pathetic for allowing this to happen to them.

Congratulations on your animal farm society morons.

If you don't like it, don't live in NYC.  I'm sure that they will miss you and the other hayseeds.

They will if we cut them off from everything produced outside of NYC by "hayseeds"


I agree, I think the rest of the United States should just build a giant containment zone around New York state. They are a danger to themselves and the rest of society and don't deserve freedom.
 
2013-02-11 10:41:53 PM

Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?


You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.
 
2013-02-11 10:43:15 PM
I get ascities and edema due to cirrhosis and have to watch my sodium very close. No more than 1500mg per day. What I've learned through this is food is farking salty enough as it is. But I certainly don't need  a mayor telling me how to eat.
 
2013-02-11 10:44:06 PM

GoldSpider: Mock26: People, like corporations, can choose to go the low salt route.  The government, however, should not be trying to force people to eat healthy.  So, yeah, the voluntary salt initiative is great and all, but it should remain just that, voluntary, without any downside or penalty for opting out.

It should be voluntary, but there needs to be punishments for companies that choose to keep poisoning people.


Go fark yourself with an iron dowel.
 
2013-02-11 10:44:43 PM

Dr. Goldshnoz: GoldSpider: Mock26: People, like corporations, can choose to go the low salt route.  The government, however, should not be trying to force people to eat healthy.  So, yeah, the voluntary salt initiative is great and all, but it should remain just that, voluntary, without any downside or penalty for opting out.

It should be voluntary, but there needs to be punishments for companies that choose to keep poisoning people.

well since we all share the burden of health costs, yeah, the government should be cracking down on the food industries shoving an extra 1000mg per dish down our throat. because it makes your food more "competitive" is a shiaty reason for us to destroy ourselves. this kind of nannystate is infinitely more smarter, reasonable, and necessary than the zomg 8 rounds is too many or zomg semiauto is too fast or zomg pistol grips bad.


This is why a slippery slope is not always a fallacy.
 
2013-02-11 10:44:55 PM

Kit Fister: max_pooper: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

Explain how laws against homosexuality equate to a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium levels of prepared foods?

Because its morally no different to forcibly regulate or change what people choose to eat than it is to forcibly regulate or change who people marry/screw. It's all the same thing of forcing others to comport to your personal view of what is right and wrong. I don't care if it's a law banning wearing certain colors or watching certain movies or whatever. A restriction on one's right to exist and make one's own choices is paramount, and any restriction on that short of forbidding it from directly harming others is wrong.

You want to smoke? Go for it, so long as it's in a place where it will not directly affect others.

If certain foods or restaurants use a lot of salt, and people know about it, then they have the right to seek out alternatives. Don't like a product? Don't buy it. Doesn't give you the right to force the maker to change by law because you have a problem with it.

Simple solution: require reports of sodium content on each package. If there's enough of a market for something different, someone will fill it.


I don't think you know what the word "focribly" means. Show me where New York has passed a law regulating salt content in any foods. The article is about a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium levels. If want to pound down 15 Big Macs before emptying two salt shakers on them, nobody is stopping you.

This is in no way shape or form a "restriction". This is the same reactions fatties have with Michelle Obamas campaign to get children, who don't know better, to eat healthier. If you don't want to be healthier, you are still free to be as fat and unhealthy as you want.
 
2013-02-11 10:45:47 PM
He's clearly doing this because he can't remember to never put it in his eyes.
 
2013-02-11 10:46:26 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


So then buy low-sodium soup you dumb motherfarker.
 
2013-02-11 10:48:52 PM
These pretzels are making me thirsty!
 
2013-02-11 10:50:05 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.



Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.
 
2013-02-11 10:51:43 PM

MagicMissile: Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.


Not to mention there's plenty of low sodium canned soup on the market. But to Satanic_Hamster it's too hard to look for, so MOAR LAWS
 
2013-02-11 10:51:48 PM

MagicMissile: Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.


Who is proposing a nation wide ban on high levels of salt in canned soups?

Nice strawman...
 
2013-02-11 10:53:38 PM

Kit Fister: Banning certain substances is within the purview of the government, but I disagree that government should do so unless it's clearly a poison (and not only a poison if taken in large quantities...salt won't kill you unless you eat massive loads of it and fail to otherwise live a healthy lifestyle).


Just like with guns, irresponsible use of unhealthy food often has deadly consequences.  I see no reason why dangerous food ingredients like salt, HFCS, MSG, sugar, gluten, alcohol, allergens, artificial coloring, etc. should be regulated any differently.

Rampant obesity, heart disease, diabetes, and other corporation-inflicted health problems are proof enough that people can no longer be trusted with their own health and safety.
 
2013-02-11 10:53:48 PM

Frank N Stein: MagicMissile: Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.

Not to mention there's plenty of low sodium canned soup on the market. But to Satanic_Hamster it's too hard to look for, so MOAR LAWS


Who is proposing "MOAR LAWS"?
 
2013-02-11 10:55:24 PM
It really boggles the mind that some people here have no problem dictating what people can and can not do. Last time I checked this was a free country, and if some fat fark wants to order some greasy french fries with 10,000mgs of salt let them, if you don't want a farking whopper or a can of soup? DON'T farkING BUY THEM! New York has become a shiathole because of such "enlightened" men as bloomberg, people who think they have the moral authority to dictate how others live their lives. I doubt all of you would be as enthused if Bloomberg made homosexuality illegal to cut down on AIDS, or some silly farking nonsense.

NYC should be carpet bombed, maybe then the rest of the state might straighten itself out.
 
2013-02-11 10:55:35 PM

max_pooper: Frank N Stein: MagicMissile: Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.

Not to mention there's plenty of low sodium canned soup on the market. But to Satanic_Hamster it's too hard to look for, so MOAR LAWS

Who is proposing "MOAR LAWS"?


Satanic_Hamster is complaining that canned soup is too salty and implied that there should be a limit on the amount of salt in canned soup. Learn2Context
 
2013-02-11 10:55:39 PM

Amos Quito: umad: Psycoholic_Slag: There is an awesome liquid out there that removes excess salt from your body.  Drink lots of it. Problem solved.

We should sell this stuff in NYC. We could make a mint.


Bloomberg would only ban it,


Yes, it's time for the "Ban dihydrogen monoxide" campaign. It'll be the last thing left for him to ban.
 
2013-02-11 10:58:34 PM
imgc.allpostersimages.com
 
2013-02-11 10:58:50 PM

Frank N Stein: max_pooper: Frank N Stein: MagicMissile: Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.

Not to mention there's plenty of low sodium canned soup on the market. But to Satanic_Hamster it's too hard to look for, so MOAR LAWS

Who is proposing "MOAR LAWS"?

Satanic_Hamster is complaining that canned soup is too salty and implied that there should be a limit on the amount of salt in canned soup. Learn2Context


Where did he imply there should be law limiting the sodium content is canned soup? I seem to remember him praising the campaign started by Mayor Bloomberg to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared food. Neither hamster not Bloomberg made mention of anything that could be construed as wishing to limit sodium levels through the force of law.
 
2013-02-11 10:59:21 PM
Holy shiat, seldom have I seen posters biatch so much about so little.
 
2013-02-11 11:01:54 PM
new york sounds shiattier every time i see an article about it.  what an authoritarian joke.
 
2013-02-11 11:02:06 PM
As much as prepared foods do use too much salt, you know who uses too little salt when cooking at home? farking everybody. It's not ricin motherfarkers.
 
2013-02-11 11:02:20 PM

GUTSU: It really boggles the mind that some people here have no problem dictating what people can and can not do. Last time I checked this was a free country, and if some fat fark wants to order some greasy french fries with 10,000mgs of salt let them, if you don't want a farking whopper or a can of soup? DON'T farkING BUY THEM! New York has become a shiathole because of such "enlightened" men as bloomberg, people who think they have the moral authority to dictate how others live their lives. I doubt all of you would be as enthused if Bloomberg made homosexuality illegal to cut down on AIDS, or some silly farking nonsense.

NYC should be carpet bombed, maybe then the rest of the state might straighten itself out.


Show me where anybody is dictating how much salt you can eat.

You morans have a problem understanding that this article is about Mayor Bloomberg running a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared foods.

You want to chug gallons of soy sauce, go to town. There is no current nor proposed law that would make that illegal.
 
2013-02-11 11:02:58 PM

Dafatone: Yeah, it's completely awful that New Yorkers might not die of obesity quite as quickly as the rest of the country.

/yes, salt's danger is overhyped.
//but god.  Non-New Yorkers, shut up about how "bad" it must be to live under "tyrannical" laws you have no ideas about.


I'd use the Frog in a warm pot vs. dropping him into boiling water, but I'm sure you wouldn't get the reference...nor give a fark about your own personal responsibility to give a shiat.
 
2013-02-11 11:03:17 PM
We need a new SALT treaty.
 
2013-02-11 11:05:16 PM

ultraholland: Holy shiat, seldom have I seen posters biatch so much about so little.


fark man, I live within 100 miles of the border so I apparently live in a "4th amendment free-zone," now some asshole in NYC is pushing to ban salt. You try living in this hellhole.
 
2013-02-11 11:05:56 PM

max_pooper: Frank N Stein: max_pooper: Frank N Stein: MagicMissile: Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.

Not to mention there's plenty of low sodium canned soup on the market. But to Satanic_Hamster it's too hard to look for, so MOAR LAWS

Who is proposing "MOAR LAWS"?

Satanic_Hamster is complaining that canned soup is too salty and implied that there should be a limit on the amount of salt in canned soup. Learn2Context

Where did he imply there should be law limiting the sodium content is canned soup? I seem to remember him praising the campaign started by Mayor Bloomberg to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared food. Neither hamster not Bloomberg made mention of anything that could be construed as wishing to limit sodium levels through the force of law.


The original comment he replied to was: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

He responded with "fark you" and that he's prevented from buying canned soup because it's "too salty" . The "out of their bedroom" comment refers to the creation of laws infringing on free choice/privacy etc. This phrase refers to the gay rights movement, where the argument is/was that the government should not make laws regarding what happens in the bedroom.

Again, instead of saying "I don't think there should be laws blah blah blah" he says "fark you" and gives his reason why there should be laws against salt, without actually mentioning laws. If he meant anything other than the creation of new laws, why didn't he say it? It was heavily implied.
 
2013-02-11 11:06:27 PM

GoldSpider: Kit Fister: Banning certain substances is within the purview of the government, but I disagree that government should do so unless it's clearly a poison (and not only a poison if taken in large quantities...salt won't kill you unless you eat massive loads of it and fail to otherwise live a healthy lifestyle).

Just like with guns, irresponsible use of unhealthy food often has deadly consequences.  I see no reason why dangerous food ingredients like salt, HFCS, MSG, sugar, gluten, alcohol, allergens, artificial coloring, etc. should be regulated any differently.

Rampant obesity, heart disease, diabetes, and other corporation-inflicted health problems are proof enough that people can no longer be trusted with their own health and safety.


Make them responsible for their own health and safety and the problem takes care of it's self.
 
2013-02-11 11:07:40 PM

MagicMissile: I agree, I think the rest of the United States should just build a giant containment zone around New York state. They are a danger to themselves and the rest of society and don't deserve freedom.


Just NYC.

We could turn it into a maximum security prison.
 
2013-02-11 11:08:55 PM

mizchief: Make them responsible for their own health and safety and the problem takes care of it's self.


Tried it.  Didn't work.
 
2013-02-11 11:09:36 PM

max_pooper: GUTSU: It really boggles the mind that some people here have no problem dictating what people can and can not do. Last time I checked this was a free country, and if some fat fark wants to order some greasy french fries with 10,000mgs of salt let them, if you don't want a farking whopper or a can of soup? DON'T farkING BUY THEM! New York has become a shiathole because of such "enlightened" men as bloomberg, people who think they have the moral authority to dictate how others live their lives. I doubt all of you would be as enthused if Bloomberg made homosexuality illegal to cut down on AIDS, or some silly farking nonsense.

NYC should be carpet bombed, maybe then the rest of the state might straighten itself out.

Show me where anybody is dictating how much salt you can eat.

You morans have a problem understanding that this article is about Mayor Bloomberg running a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared foods.

You want to chug gallons of soy sauce, go to town. There is no current nor proposed law that would make that illegal.


That's true, it's also true that Bloomberg has a record of this nannystate bullshiat, and if he thought he could get away with it he'd try. A year ago you'd probably scoff at people banning Big Gulps.
 
2013-02-11 11:09:49 PM
What gives this ass hole the right to do this?
 
2013-02-11 11:10:25 PM
I was doing a job with a whole bunch of data looking for connection between salt and heart problems and it seemed to me that a number of people were told to cut the salt out of their diet which they did but they also cut out nearly everything high in potassium they used to eat as well and they had worse blood pressure problems.
 
2013-02-11 11:10:38 PM

CuttySupreme: Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.

Yet, they applaud morons like him when it comes to gun control.


i.imgur.com

My favorite part is hipster-douche-neckbeard using her as a shield.

SlothB77: Its easier than doing something to help new yorkers weather all these storms. Plow the snow or ban salt? Hmmmm



These are the excellent services they pay some of the highest taxes in the country for.


cmb53208: Why do people vote for this paternalistic douchebag?  It's hard to find a more awful human being in charge of a city; he even makes Rahm Emmanuel look good for crying out loud



Whoa, whoa, whoa! Let's not get carried away here!
 
2013-02-11 11:10:58 PM

Frank N Stein: max_pooper: Frank N Stein: max_pooper: Frank N Stein: MagicMissile: Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.

Not to mention there's plenty of low sodium canned soup on the market. But to Satanic_Hamster it's too hard to look for, so MOAR LAWS

Who is proposing "MOAR LAWS"?

Satanic_Hamster is complaining that canned soup is too salty and implied that there should be a limit on the amount of salt in canned soup. Learn2Context

Where did he imply there should be law limiting the sodium content is canned soup? I seem to remember him praising the campaign started by Mayor Bloomberg to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared food. Neither hamster not Bloomberg made mention of anything that could be construed as wishing to limit sodium levels through the force of law.

The original comment he replied to was: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

He responded with "fark you" and that he's prevented from buying canned soup because it's "too salty" . The "out of their bedroom" comment refers to the creation of laws infringing on free choice/privacy etc. This phrase refers to the gay rights movement, where the argument is/was that the government should not make laws regarding what happens in the bedroom.

Again, instead of saying "I don't think there should be laws blah blah blah" he says "fark you" and gives his reason why there should be laws against salt, without actually mentioning laws. If he meant anything other than the creation of new laws, why didn't he say it? It was heavily implied.


It was not implied. I inferred his "fark you" was about people whining about a voluntary campaign to make foods less salty.

You probably though this was about a law that restricts sodium levels and thought Hammsters "fark you" was in support of a law that only exists in your mind and other reactionaries who dont understand the facts of the article.
 
2013-02-11 11:12:01 PM

Dafatone: Yeah, it's completely awful that New Yorkers might not die of obesity quite as quickly as the rest of the country.

/yes, salt's danger is overhyped.
//but god.  Non-New Yorkers, shut up about how "bad" it must be to live under "tyrannical" laws you have no ideas about.


I have an idea about the 3 1/2 year mandatory minimum for possessing a firearm that Plaxico Burress got threatened with.  Sure he was a dumbass, but I didn't agree with Bloomberg when he said Plax should get the 3 1/2.  He wasn't brandishing.

Anyway, I'll vote with my dollars and never spend a dime in NY.
 
2013-02-11 11:12:52 PM

Brick-House: What gives this ass hole the right to do this?


"General Welfare".  Pucker up, troglodyte!
 
2013-02-11 11:14:23 PM

Brick-House: What gives this ass hole the right to do this?


To start a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared foods? The first ammendment would be my guess.
 
2013-02-11 11:15:49 PM

max_pooper: To start a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared foods? The first ammendment would be my guess.


It's a start, but people cling to their vices like they do their guns.  This will eventually need to grow some teeth.
 
2013-02-11 11:17:03 PM

Cyno01: Mikey1969: Use sea salt. It's got a stronger flavor, so you end up using less. Everybody wins. You get the flavor, you use less, and you still get the salt in your diet. Bloomberg can eat a dick, though.

I DO hate people who salt shiat without tasting it first, though. About the only thing that works with is salad, since people don't usually use spices when putting together a basic salad. Salting other food before even bothering to taste it is an insult to whomever cooked it, and should result in a flogging.

I heard years ago that high-level job interviews for IBM involved dinner, and it was noted if you salted your food before tasting it, the reasoning being that if you didn't trust the chef to do his job, you were probably an egotistical jerk who couldn't work well in a team setting. No idea if it's true, but I support the idea...

No it doesnt. NaCL is NaCL. If anything, sea salt is LESS salty because of all the trace minerals, compared to table salt with a touch of iodine or pure koshering or pickling/popcorn salt. I mean the minerals can give more of a depth of flavor, which is one of the reasons to use sea salt, but its not saltier...

Also i dont think ive ever seen someone salt a salad. You shouldnt have to if the dressing is properly seasoned, but even then, i cant say ive ever seen someone salt a salad.


Sorry dude, I use sea salt and use far less salt than when I use normal salt, but since you're a Fark Expert, I'm sure I'm actually using twice as much, I just don't have your magical powers that show me that more is more. Obviously, I'm confusing more with less.

And yes, plenty of people salt salad as well. At least in MY imaginary world. Shiat, it's almost like I worked for 12 years or so in restaurants and saw people salt salads every day. I guess it's just the 'shrooms talking.
 
2013-02-11 11:17:13 PM

findthefish: These pretzels are making me thirsty!


thlog.com
 
2013-02-11 11:17:55 PM

GoldSpider: max_pooper: To start a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared foods? The first ammendment would be my guess.

It's a start, but people cling to their vices like they do their guns.  This will eventually need to grow some teeth.


As I've said before, go fark yourself. You don't want any salt? Go police yourself.
 
2013-02-11 11:17:57 PM

GoldSpider: Brick-House: What gives this ass hole the right to do this?

"General Welfare".  Pucker up, troglodyte!


So, I'm not alone in not wanting to have to pay for some fat, diabetic slug with heart disease to stay on life support?

I feel . . . better
 
2013-02-11 11:18:37 PM

max_pooper: Where did he imply there should be law limiting the sodium content is canned soup? I seem to remember him praising the campaign started by Mayor Bloomberg to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared food. Neither hamster not Bloomberg made mention of anything that could be construed as wishing to limit sodium levels through the force of law.


I doubt I'll ever praise Bloomberg about anything.  And the selection of low sodium soups is usually crap.
 
2013-02-11 11:21:11 PM

GUTSU: As I've said before, go fark yourself. You don't want any salt? Go police yourself.


Stop polluting my insurance pool with your gluttony, and then we can talk.

Marcintosh: So, I'm not alone in not wanting to have to pay for some fat, diabetic slug with heart disease to stay on life support?

I feel . . . better


Well, we already do, but then that's the price we pay for not living in Somalia.  It's our duty to pay, though, not to enjoy it.
 
2013-02-11 11:21:53 PM
The constitution doesn't protect businesses' right to sell food that's hazardous to health, deal with it idiots.
 
2013-02-11 11:21:58 PM

Happy Hours: MagicMissile: I agree, I think the rest of the United States should just build a giant containment zone around New York state. They are a danger to themselves and the rest of society and don't deserve freedom.

Just NYC.

We could turn it into a maximum security prison.


cdnl.complex.com
 
2013-02-11 11:22:46 PM

GUTSU: It really boggles the mind that some people here have no problem dictating what people can and can not do. Last time I checked this was a free country, and if some fat fark wants to order some greasy french fries with 10,000mgs of salt let them, if you don't want a farking whopper or a can of soup? DON'T farkING BUY THEM! New York has become a shiathole because of such "enlightened" men as bloomberg, people who think they have the moral authority to dictate how others live their lives. I doubt all of you would be as enthused if Bloomberg made homosexuality illegal to cut down on AIDS, or some silly farking nonsense.

NYC should be carpet bombed, maybe then the rest of the state might straighten itself out.


Maybe we should ban all people from having unprotected sex, because "if we can save just one more life ... "
 
2013-02-11 11:25:54 PM

knbwhite: GUTSU: It really boggles the mind that some people here have no problem dictating what people can and can not do. Last time I checked this was a free country, and if some fat fark wants to order some greasy french fries with 10,000mgs of salt let them, if you don't want a farking whopper or a can of soup? DON'T farkING BUY THEM! New York has become a shiathole because of such "enlightened" men as bloomberg, people who think they have the moral authority to dictate how others live their lives. I doubt all of you would be as enthused if Bloomberg made homosexuality illegal to cut down on AIDS, or some silly farking nonsense.

NYC should be carpet bombed, maybe then the rest of the state might straighten itself out.

Maybe we should ban all people from having unprotected sex, because "if we can save just one more life ... "


That's a vice that nanny staters (claim) to enjoy frequently and it's associated with the right, so no go.
 
2013-02-11 11:27:56 PM

GoldSpider: mizchief: Make them responsible for their own health and safety and the problem takes care of it's self.

Tried it.  Didn't work.


It's only your problem when you make it your problem.
 
2013-02-11 11:29:49 PM
Came for the Demolition Man reference.

/leaves satisfied
 
2013-02-11 11:30:17 PM
I'm on the fence about this...I don't think the Government should be telling people what they should eat/what companies can make, but there is way too much salt in everything. Why is there so much salt in frozen food? I mean..I can understand some to help preserve it, but it's FROZEN food. Can some food scientist chime in?

/Had a Boston Market frozen dinner with 44% RDA of Sodium for dinner, and you really couldn't taste the salt at all. Where did it go?
 
2013-02-11 11:31:37 PM
He should travel to Chicago and take a bullet to the head.
 
2013-02-11 11:35:22 PM

mizchief: It's only your problem when you make it your problem.


It's my problem every week when my health insurance premium is taken out of my paycheck.
 
2013-02-11 11:37:14 PM

StrangeQ: Up next: the franchise wars

[www.digitalbusstop.com image 350x324]


I'm working on a story about that...soda companies sponsoring cloned mercenaries that fight on pay-per-view.  Inspired by bits of Shadowrun flavor text, the 80's cola wars, The SkyCrawlers, and a Farker's handle.
 
2013-02-11 11:38:51 PM

Satanic_Hamster: max_pooper: Where did he imply there should be law limiting the sodium content is canned soup? I seem to remember him praising the campaign started by Mayor Bloomberg to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared food. Neither hamster not Bloomberg made mention of anything that could be construed as wishing to limit sodium levels through the force of law.

I doubt I'll ever praise Bloomberg about anything.  And the selection of low sodium soups is usually crap.


Were you implying there should be a law limiting the salt content of canned soup?
 
2013-02-11 11:41:04 PM

Cyno01: salad


Fun fact... the English word "salad" is derived from the French for "salted", because the main point of dressings to the French and their Roman fore-bearers was to put as much salt as possible on anything green and edible.
 
2013-02-11 11:43:21 PM

Mikey1969: DO hate people who salt shiat without tasting it first, though. About the only thing that works with is salad, since people don't usually use spices when putting together a basic salad. Salting other food before even bothering to taste it is an insult to whomever cooked it, and should result in a flogging.


Thank you! My husband salts the shiat out of everything (he's an ex-smoker, current alcoholic) without so much as a taste and it kind of does insult me. I mean, sure, it's his food but I made it carefully and usually add some salt as I cook, it doesn't need more salt. He puts it on so thick sometimes that it's white. Gag.
 
2013-02-11 11:44:48 PM

Doubletwist-: addy2:

They have the low sodium soups but oddly, they taste like crap.

I once thought as you do. I started eating the low sodium Healthy Choice soups. At first, they seemed overly bland and I needed to add some kind of seasoning. As I was attempting to reduce my sodium intake, I used non-salty seasoning things like Mrs. Dash.
Eventually I stopped using even that, and now the low sodium soups taste plenty salty and delicious [as delicious as a canned soup can anyway] without adding anything.
After getting used to the less salty foods, I once tried to eat some normal Campbell's soup. It was horrific. I couldn't believe I once thought something that salty was 'normal'.


I think you hit it on the head, actually, when you said "as delicious as a canned soup can anything." the soups simply aren't tasty at all and the salt masks that. Bland, poorly made food doesn't get better by removing the salt.
 
2013-02-11 11:49:04 PM

addy2: Doubletwist-: addy2:

They have the low sodium soups but oddly, they taste like crap.

I once thought as you do. I started eating the low sodium Healthy Choice soups. At first, they seemed overly bland and I needed to add some kind of seasoning. As I was attempting to reduce my sodium intake, I used non-salty seasoning things like Mrs. Dash.
Eventually I stopped using even that, and now the low sodium soups taste plenty salty and delicious [as delicious as a canned soup can anyway] without adding anything.
After getting used to the less salty foods, I once tried to eat some normal Campbell's soup. It was horrific. I couldn't believe I once thought something that salty was 'normal'.

I think you hit it on the head, actually, when you said "as delicious as a canned soup can anything." the soups simply aren't tasty at all and the salt masks that. Bland, poorly made food doesn't get better by removing the salt.


A little thyme does wonders for low sodium chicken noodle and tomato.
 
2013-02-11 11:54:11 PM

GoldSpider: mizchief: It's only your problem when you make it your problem.

It's my problem every week when my health insurance premium is taken out of my paycheck.


You should realize just how futile trying to control what you consider a vice is. Prohibition didn't work, did it? I see the same type of "moral imperative" that banned alcohol in what you've said here--watch the recent Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition if you need a reminder. We see the futility of the drug war on a daily basis. Yet there will always be people like you who try to control others.

What costs society more? Trying to control the vice, or dealing with the consequences?
 
2013-02-11 11:58:56 PM

CheezieDanish: iheartscotch: But, how will we get our iodine?

/ iodine is important for living

Agree.

Food needs salt... I think he's thinking of the "high blood pressure" salt intake kind. He just wants a happier, healthier peoples, people. Someone's gotta lay the smack-down on the salt addicts.


There does appear to be any conclusive evidence that high salt intake is responsible for hypertension.
 
2013-02-12 12:04:43 AM
i wouldn't mind a salt-free option for french fries at fast food joints. we all have different tastes. i'm happy with no salt at all, i just don't care for it.
 
2013-02-12 12:13:05 AM
Yea, the hubs and I cook most of our food meals (meat and veggies) from scratch so when we eat fast food or when I decide to have a can of soup or anything I am just way over-saltified. Some foods are good with salt, like some good old buttery noodles. But for the most part if you just use spices and herbs (especially fresh herbs omg- anytime there are fresh herbs on sale at the store I buy them) you will just forget about the salt.

It is kind of like corn. I don't think that corn causes any problems for most people, but why does it have to be in EVERYTHING? I don't really like eating huge amounts of one thing. Except you need salt to live so I get why we need to eat it, but I don't need that much to live...
 
2013-02-12 12:19:41 AM
I live it when New Yorkers* throw a shiat fit when someone criticizes something about NYC. I live in Fl, we have our own tag, and it's hilarious. I rarely see anyone from any other city be so over sensitive about what non-locals think.

*in my experience, the people who get the most butthurt are the ones who moved to Williamsburg from Truck Stop, Ohio, and self-identify with a city to make up for a lack of personality

/NYC sucks
//London, Berlin, and Tokyo laugh at you
 
2013-02-12 12:42:53 AM
Ahh NYC.

Where it is legal and "tolerant" for 2 consenting adults to put things in each other's asses while it is illegal for another consenting adult to provide a soda and salt for another consenting adult to put in his mouth
 
2013-02-12 12:44:03 AM

max_pooper: Were you implying there should be a law limiting the salt content of canned soup?


No.  But there should be someone who could go around and slap the boards of those companies until they put out an edible product.  I don't mean slap legally; I mean go around and physically slap them.
 
2013-02-12 12:49:25 AM
All the bullshiat legislation upstate NY has to suffer because of NYC, and all they get in return is watching the city suffer Bloombergs stupid ass. It's almost worth it.
 
2013-02-12 01:07:47 AM
It took me some time, but I understand now why the rest oh New York state wants NYC to secede.
 
2013-02-12 01:30:24 AM
I thought salt was like the first thing Bloomberg started go ing after, years ago...
 
2013-02-12 01:30:41 AM
You people better lay off Bloomberg.
He's rich, which means he's better than the lot of put together.
And since he is also Mayor, he is not only better, he is a ruler of man.
So shut your traps and GTFBTW!!!
 
2013-02-12 01:40:19 AM

ultraholland: Holy shiat, seldom have I seen posters biatch so much about so little.


Freedom is taken incrementally, not all at once.

super_grass: The constitution doesn't protect businesses' right to sell food that's hazardous to health, deal with it idiots.


There was a time when a bill of rights was considered dangerous, because fools would mistake specifically enumerated rights to be their only rights.  Do yourself a favor and don't cite what you don't understand.
 
2013-02-12 01:43:09 AM

Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.


It's almost like liberals use their brains and not their knees to think.
 
2013-02-12 01:45:54 AM

o5iiawah: Where it is legal and "tolerant" for 2 consenting adults to put things in each other's asses


You say that like it shouldn't be.
 
2013-02-12 01:47:17 AM

MagicMissile: Hickory-smoked: MagicMissile: New Yorkers are pathetic for allowing this to happen to them.

Congratulations on your animal farm society morons.

Yes. George Orwell's cautionary tale was obviously all about resturaunt regulations.

I think you need to look at the big picture in NY and how it is influencing other states and then go re read that book...


I suppose you plan to do something about it other than whine?
 
2013-02-12 01:51:42 AM

ciberido: Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.

It's almost like liberals use their brains and not their knees to think.


I'm sure everyone appreciates you regulating their diet.
 
2013-02-12 01:56:03 AM

JonBuck: GoldSpider: mizchief: It's only your problem when you make it your problem.

It's my problem every week when my health insurance premium is taken out of my paycheck.

You should realize just how futile trying to control what you consider a vice is. Prohibition didn't work, did it? I see the same type of "moral imperative" that banned alcohol in what you've said here--watch the recent Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition if you need a reminder. We see the futility of the drug war on a daily basis. Yet there will always be people like you who try to control others.

What costs society more? Trying to control the vice, or dealing with the consequences?


This isn't exactly a salt prohibition. You're free to add more. Christ.
 
2013-02-12 01:58:15 AM

o5iiawah: Ahh NYC.

Where it is legal and "tolerant" for 2 consenting adults to put things in each other's asses while it is illegal for another consenting adult to provide a soda and salt for another consenting adult to put in his mouth


You're an idiot. Stop posting.
 
2013-02-12 02:00:56 AM

muck4doo: ciberido: Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.

It's almost like liberals use their brains and not their knees to think.

I'm sure everyone appreciates you regulating their diet.


Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.
 
2013-02-12 02:28:30 AM

Abacus9: Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.


Lulz! Have a sprite on me, but make sure it isn't too big.
 
2013-02-12 02:43:58 AM

muck4doo: Abacus9: Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.

Lulz! Have a sprite on me, but make sure it isn't too big.


So buy two.
 
2013-02-12 02:51:16 AM

Abacus9: muck4doo: Abacus9: Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.

Lulz! Have a sprite on me, but make sure it isn't too big.

So buy two.


That wouldn't be politically correct. Have some water instead until they regulate how much of that you can have. It will be in your best interest, stupid citizen.
 
2013-02-12 03:03:25 AM

muck4doo: Abacus9: muck4doo: Abacus9: Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.

Lulz! Have a sprite on me, but make sure it isn't too big.

So buy two.

That wouldn't be politically correct. Have some water instead until they regulate how much of that you can have. It will be in your best interest, stupid citizen.


Or, just make stuff up, like you're doing.
 
2013-02-12 03:35:30 AM

iheartscotch: But, how will we get our iodine?

/ iodine is important for living


Add iodine to Brawndo. Problem solved.
 
2013-02-12 03:37:29 AM

Abacus9: muck4doo: ciberido: Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.

It's almost like liberals use their brains and not their knees to think.

I'm sure everyone appreciates you regulating their diet.

Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.


Obviously.

This entire issue (and the one with the soda serving sizes) is just right wingers trying to launch a populist attack at a moderately liberal politician and by proxy tar anyone to the left of their particular brand of facisim as a facist themselves.

No one buys for a minute that they really care about what happens in a super liberal city in a super liberal state.
 
2013-02-12 03:41:18 AM
This is precisely the reason why I carry salt, sugar, margarine, and monosodium glutamate around with me. I wish the health nazis would stay out of my diet and leave my food alone. Processed food has salt, sugar, margarine and MSG in it because it tastes horrible otherwise. These additives increase the natural flavor of the food, so it tastes more like the food that it is supposed to be.

BTW: Bring back my super-size McDs and my King-Size Snickers!
 
2013-02-12 03:57:15 AM

stuffy: Well its too be expected, after solving NYs crime, crumbling infrastructure, etc.


I know this is hate the libs day, like every other day, but most of this crazy bullshiat shows up because NYC's crime problem was solved years ago and yuppies have moved on to first world problems. The difference between the 70's and 80's and now is absolutely night and day; sure it still happens, but not everywhere every day. The crumbling infrastructure really can't be fixed for real without another Robert Moses to bulldoze the minorities and hipsters out of the way, though.
 
2013-02-12 04:01:21 AM

TwistedFark: Abacus9: muck4doo: ciberido: Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.

It's almost like liberals use their brains and not their knees to think.

I'm sure everyone appreciates you regulating their diet.

Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.

Obviously.

This entire issue (and the one with the soda serving sizes) is just right wingers trying to launch a populist attack at a moderately liberal politician and by proxy tar anyone to the left of their particular brand of facisim as a facist themselves.

No one buys for a minute that they really care about what happens in a super liberal city in a super liberal state.


And I'm no fan of Bloomberg. I just don't get the "he's taking away my rights" thing. People still have a right to eat whatever they want, and restaurants and prepackaged food is still regulated. But there's this insane overreaction to absolutely nothing. It's like when Michelle Obama made a suggestion about school lunches, and a lot of people were all "the government's trying to tell our kids what they can and can't eat!" It's insane.
 
2013-02-12 04:24:59 AM

Hickory-smoked: o5iiawah: Where it is legal and "tolerant" for 2 consenting adults to put things in each other's asses

You say that like it shouldn't be.


I dont care what people do with their asses or what they ingest.
 
2013-02-12 04:26:56 AM

Abacus9: JonBuck: GoldSpider: mizchief: It's only your problem when you make it your problem.

It's my problem every week when my health insurance premium is taken out of my paycheck.

You should realize just how futile trying to control what you consider a vice is. Prohibition didn't work, did it? I see the same type of "moral imperative" that banned alcohol in what you've said here--watch the recent Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition if you need a reminder. We see the futility of the drug war on a daily basis. Yet there will always be people like you who try to control others.

What costs society more? Trying to control the vice, or dealing with the consequences?

This isn't exactly a salt prohibition. You're free to add more. Christ.


I was more referring to his sentiment, considering his posting history in this thread, that he thinks he has the right to control everything that might cost him a little more on his health premiums. He was talking about this issue in general terms, so was I.
 
2013-02-12 04:51:20 AM
I watched some food programme with a fat guy with a terrible bleached hair-do driving around in a convertible and squealing about how good various restaurants were in a voice that sounded like a pig with catarrh.

Anyway, he was eating ravioli at an Italian place and was loving it.  I have to admit, it looked amazing.  So he waddled back to the kitchen to meet the owner/chef and she showed him how she prepared it.  I'm not exaggerating, she put 3 separate lots of salt in at various stages of the process and each one must have been over 100g.  Now, this wasn't per plate, obviously, it was making a big tray of filling for multiple servings, but it was still a mountainous portion of salt.  The only way that could have tasted nice was if the diner has become so desensitised to salt that they can't taste it.
 
2013-02-12 05:04:32 AM

Abacus9: TwistedFark: Abacus9: muck4doo: ciberido: Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.

It's almost like liberals use their brains and not their knees to think.

I'm sure everyone appreciates you regulating their diet.

Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.

Obviously.

This entire issue (and the one with the soda serving sizes) is just right wingers trying to launch a populist attack at a moderately liberal politician and by proxy tar anyone to the left of their particular brand of facisim as a facist themselves.

No one buys for a minute that they really care about what happens in a super liberal city in a super liberal state.

And I'm no fan of Bloomberg. I just don't get the "he's taking away my rights" thing. People still have a right to eat whatever they want, and restaurants and prepackaged food is still regulated. But there's this insane overreaction to absolutely nothing. It's like when Michelle Obama made a suggestion about school lunches, and a lot of people were all "the government's trying to tell our kids what they can and can't eat!" It's insane.


Bloomberg says it's way past your bedtime.
 
2013-02-12 05:29:38 AM

muck4doo: Abacus9: TwistedFark: Abacus9: muck4doo: ciberido: Tanthalas39: Ah, the thread where liberal farkers complain about liberalism.

It's almost like liberals use their brains and not their knees to think.

I'm sure everyone appreciates you regulating their diet.

Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.

Obviously.

This entire issue (and the one with the soda serving sizes) is just right wingers trying to launch a populist attack at a moderately liberal politician and by proxy tar anyone to the left of their particular brand of facisim as a facist themselves.

No one buys for a minute that they really care about what happens in a super liberal city in a super liberal state.

And I'm no fan of Bloomberg. I just don't get the "he's taking away my rights" thing. People still have a right to eat whatever they want, and restaurants and prepackaged food is still regulated. But there's this insane overreaction to absolutely nothing. It's like when Michelle Obama made a suggestion about school lunches, and a lot of people were all "the government's trying to tell our kids what they can and can't eat!" It's insane.

Bloomberg says it's way past your bedtime.


Let him try to impose a curfew :) Difficulty: I don't live in New York.
 
2013-02-12 05:43:48 AM

John Buck 41: fusillade762: Satanic_Hamster: Honestly, though?  Most prepared foods WAY farking oversalt.  Hate that so much.  Undersalt?  You can just add more salt.  Oversalt?  It's ruined.

Yeah, I used to live on Campbell's condensed soups until I started reading the labels. Some of them have 60-70% of your RDA of sodium.

Ramen noodles? Something like 85% of RDA sodium. I figure the 1 I have every 6 weeks won't kill me.

Moderationmoderationmoderation.



Wrong, it's not even 50% rda
 
2013-02-12 05:47:57 AM

max_pooper: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

Explain how laws against homosexuality equate to a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium levels of prepared foods?




Notsureifserious.jpg
 
2013-02-12 05:57:35 AM

max_pooper: Frank N Stein: max_pooper: Frank N Stein: max_pooper: Frank N Stein: MagicMissile: Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.

Not to mention there's plenty of low sodium canned soup on the market. But to Satanic_Hamster it's too hard to look for, so MOAR LAWS

Who is proposing "MOAR LAWS"?

Satanic_Hamster is complaining that canned soup is too salty and implied that there should be a limit on the amount of salt in canned soup. Learn2Context

Where did he imply there should be law limiting the sodium content is canned soup? I seem to remember him praising the campaign started by Mayor Bloomberg to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared food. Neither hamster not Bloomberg made mention of anything that could be construed as wishing to limit sodium levels through the force of law.

The original comment he replied to was: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

He responded with "fark you" and that he's prevented from buying canned soup because it's "too salty" . The "out of their bedroom" comment refers to the creation of laws infringing on free choice/privacy etc. This phrase refers to the gay rights movement, where the argument is/was that the government should not make laws regarding what happens in the bedroom.

Again, instead of saying "I don't think there should be laws blah blah blah" he says "fark you" and gives his reason why there should be laws against salt, without a ...




Wow maxpooper, you are either super dense or super trolly, which is it?
 
2013-02-12 06:02:50 AM

Abacus9: o5iiawah: Ahh NYC.

Where it is legal and "tolerant" for 2 consenting adults to put things in each other's asses while it is illegal for another consenting adult to provide a soda and salt for another consenting adult to put in his mouth

You're an idiot. Stop posting.




So people using logic makes them an idiot?
 
2013-02-12 06:07:01 AM

The Envoy: I watched some food programme with a fat guy with a terrible bleached hair-do driving around in a convertible and squealing about how good various restaurants were in a voice that sounded like a pig with catarrh.

Anyway, he was eating ravioli at an Italian place and was loving it.  I have to admit, it looked amazing.  So he waddled back to the kitchen to meet the owner/chef and she showed him how she prepared it.  I'm not exaggerating, she put 3 separate lots of salt in at various stages of the process and each one must have been over 100g.  Now, this wasn't per plate, obviously, it was making a big tray of filling for multiple servings, but it was still a mountainous portion of salt.  The only way that could have tasted nice was if the diner has become so desensitised to salt that they can't taste it.




Lol, no way! You lie! Amazing story!
 
2013-02-12 06:09:11 AM
giftedmadness:  Lol, no way! You lie! Amazing story!

I'm actually astonished and slightly incredulous that you managed to read it, there being words of more than two syllables in it.
 
2013-02-12 06:16:52 AM

giftedmadness: Abacus9: o5iiawah: Ahh NYC.

Where it is legal and "tolerant" for 2 consenting adults to put things in each other's asses while it is illegal for another consenting adult to provide a soda and salt for another consenting adult to put in his mouth

You're an idiot. Stop posting.

So people using logic makes them an idiot?


What is logical about claiming that it is illegal to provide or consume a soda and some salt. It's not.
 
2013-02-12 06:17:55 AM
Hate to bring the founding fathers unto this, but I recall "pursuit of happiness" being an inalienable right. My happiness requires salt. And soft drinks. And tobacco. And dancing girls.
 
2013-02-12 06:20:49 AM
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No way!
 
2013-02-12 06:21:55 AM

The Envoy: [content.internetvideoarchive.com image 320x240]

No way!


Whoops!
 
2013-02-12 06:36:01 AM
I'd never have guessed it would take a thread about salt to bring out the right wingers. Amazing that people get worked up about a voluntary effort to increase health.
 
2013-02-12 08:18:14 AM

Ilmarinen: I'd never have guessed it would take a thread about salt to bring out the right wingers. Amazing that people get worked up about a voluntary effort to increase health.


I think there was a misunderstanding about the program being voluntary because of the misleading headline and the failure to read the article carefully, if at all.

/like that EVER happens on Fark
 
2013-02-12 08:28:08 AM
From the Liberal Dictionary:

voluntary (VOL un tair ee) adj.  Involuntary.

/this is what Conservatives actually believe
 
2013-02-12 08:31:27 AM

JonBuck: I was more referring to his sentiment, considering his posting history in this thread, that he thinks he has the right to control everything that might cost him a little more on his health premiums. He was talking about this issue in general terms, so was I.


Was trying to play a little Devil's Advocate in this thread, and sadly it seems a lot of people agreed with the sentiment.  It's scary how people are willing to give up their rights to follow moral crusaders like Bloomberg.

And anyone arguing that nobody should make a fuss because this isn't a ban or regulation is obviously unfamiliar with Bloomberg's recent body of work.
 
2013-02-12 08:43:09 AM
Didn't New York City just get a hurricane that flooded half of Manhattan and knocked out the subways for weeks?  Bloomberg could be spending his time and resources trying to prevent that from happening again.  Instead, New Yorkers get this.
 
2013-02-12 08:47:03 AM
Personal responsibility dies a little more.... sad.
 
2013-02-12 08:49:54 AM

Kit Fister: Pants full of macaroni!!: From the Liberal Dictionary:

voluntary (VOL un tair ee) adj.  Involuntary.

/this is what Conservatives actually believe

Only those of us who go by the headlines and the outlines rather than deep-reading the article. I missed that it was a campaign to voluntarily change, not a law.

But, yes, I'm sure scoring political points by trashing the "other guys" and being condescending douchebags is more important than having a rational discussion.


This is how they started the soada and trans fat ban, with a voluntary campaign.
 
2013-02-12 09:19:04 AM
This has gotten so bad that now I have to salt my salt to make it taste like salt.
 
2013-02-12 09:21:43 AM

giftedmadness: max_pooper: Frank N Stein: max_pooper: Frank N Stein: max_pooper: Frank N Stein: MagicMissile: Satanic_Hamster: Snowflake Tubbybottom: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

You know what?  fark you.  I want to be able to have canned soup at work for lunch on occasion.  I can't, because all the commercially available canned soup is so god damned salty it's barely edible.


Or just make your own soup. But no, its much easier to get a law passed that targets all soup in the country, so that your lunch is less salty.

Not to mention there's plenty of low sodium canned soup on the market. But to Satanic_Hamster it's too hard to look for, so MOAR LAWS

Who is proposing "MOAR LAWS"?

Satanic_Hamster is complaining that canned soup is too salty and implied that there should be a limit on the amount of salt in canned soup. Learn2Context

Where did he imply there should be law limiting the sodium content is canned soup? I seem to remember him praising the campaign started by Mayor Bloomberg to voluntarily reduce sodium levels in prepared food. Neither hamster not Bloomberg made mention of anything that could be construed as wishing to limit sodium levels through the force of law.

The original comment he replied to was: The people who want you out of their bedroom have no problem telling you how to live in all the rest. How about just staying out of all of them?

He responded with "fark you" and that he's prevented from buying canned soup because it's "too salty" . The "out of their bedroom" comment refers to the creation of laws infringing on free choice/privacy etc. This phrase refers to the gay rights movement, where the argument is/was that the government should not make laws regarding what happens in the bedroom.

Again, instead of saying "I don't think there should be laws blah blah blah" he says "fark you" and gives his reason why there should be laws against sal ...


Neither. I'm just trying to stomp down all the stupidity from all the whiners in this thread. I don't understand how people can look at a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium content in prepared foods and think, "Stop making things I like illegal!!!!"

Nobody, certainly not Bloomberg, is asking for a law to ban salty foods. If you want to drink soy sauce and anchovy smoothies for breakfast everyday, go right ahead.
 
2013-02-12 10:09:57 AM

katerbug72: Mikey1969: DO hate people who salt shiat without tasting it first, though. About the only thing that works with is salad, since people don't usually use spices when putting together a basic salad. Salting other food before even bothering to taste it is an insult to whomever cooked it, and should result in a flogging.

Thank you! My husband salts the shiat out of everything (he's an ex-smoker, current alcoholic) without so much as a taste and it kind of does insult me. I mean, sure, it's his food but I made it carefully and usually add some salt as I cook, it doesn't need more salt. He puts it on so thick sometimes that it's white. Gag.


So you admit you don't salt the food enough for his taste, and you're upset that he adds more?

A chef is within the realm of reality when he is insulted that a patron salts without tasting a dish the FIRST TIME that patron has that dish, because the chef is supposed to have already appropriately salted the dish.  The second time that patron has that dish, the chef no longer has any grounds to be upset, as that patron is aware of the chef's taste in salt and can make the adjustment without necessarily needing to pre-taste.

But you KNOW your husband's salt preferences, and you know that you've failed to adequately salt the food to his liking in the kitchen.  He is fully aware that you've failed to properly salt it for him, and therefore is completely reasonable in adding salt without pre-tasting.  It sounds like your salting is so far below what he considers acceptable that the food would likely be completely unpalatable to him without adding salt.  You say it doesn't need more salt, but for him it clearly does.

You are being completely unreasonable to be insulted.

Want him to stop salting without tasting?  Salt the dish appropriately for him in the kitchen, and mention to him that you've done this.  If that means a white crust, give him a white crust.

And if that's too hard for you, stop cooking for him.  But it isn't reasonable to resent his salting of his food.
 
2013-02-12 10:23:03 AM
and guns?

/runs
 
2013-02-12 10:53:55 AM

DarkVader: katerbug72: Mikey1969: DO hate people who salt shiat without tasting it first, though. About the only thing that works with is salad, since people don't usually use spices when putting together a basic salad. Salting other food before even bothering to taste it is an insult to whomever cooked it, and should result in a flogging.

Thank you! My husband salts the shiat out of everything (he's an ex-smoker, current alcoholic) without so much as a taste and it kind of does insult me. I mean, sure, it's his food but I made it carefully and usually add some salt as I cook, it doesn't need more salt. He puts it on so thick sometimes that it's white. Gag.

So you admit you don't salt the food enough for his taste, and you're upset that he adds more?

A chef is within the realm of reality when he is insulted that a patron salts without tasting a dish the FIRST TIME that patron has that dish, because the chef is supposed to have already appropriately salted the dish.  The second time that patron has that dish, the chef no longer has any grounds to be upset, as that patron is aware of the chef's taste in salt and can make the adjustment without necessarily needing to pre-taste.

But you KNOW your husband's salt preferences, and you know that you've failed to adequately salt the food to his liking in the kitchen.  He is fully aware that you've failed to properly salt it for him, and therefore is completely reasonable in adding salt without pre-tasting.  It sounds like your salting is so far below what he considers acceptable that the food would likely be completely unpalatable to him without adding salt.  You say it doesn't need more salt, but for him it clearly does.

You are being completely unreasonable to be insulted.

Want him to stop salting without tasting?  Salt the dish appropriately for him in the kitchen, and mention to him that you've done this.  If that means a white crust, give him a white crust.

And if that's too hard for you, stop cooking for him.  But it isn't ...


You don't know what the fark you're talking about.
 
2013-02-12 11:25:38 AM

muck4doo: Abacus9: muck4doo: Abacus9: Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.

Lulz! Have a sprite on me, but make sure it isn't too big.

So buy two.

That wouldn't be politically correct. Have some water instead until they regulate how much of that you can have. It will be in your best interest, stupid citizen.


No, buying two sodas is perfectly legal. But don't let how the law actually works get in the way of your persecution fantasies.
 
2013-02-12 11:28:44 AM
Man, you suggest that hey, maybe trying something different in one part of the country isn't the end of the world, and everyone just freaks out and screeches "FREEDOM" at you.

Seriously, if you're dead set on NYC being filled with "nanny-state liberals," "babies," etc... why do you give a fark what's going on there?

Let them try something different, and maybe in 20 years it'll be the only thin part of the country.  Or, maybe it won't make a difference.

But it's great to see all this outrage from people who would never go near New York in the first place.
 
2013-02-12 11:46:52 AM

KrispyKritter: i wouldn't mind a salt-free option for french fries at fast food joints. we all have different tastes. i'm happy with no salt at all, i just don't care for it.


I try to remember to ask for unsalted fries if I get fast food and salt them myself afterward.  Not so much because I think there's too much salt on them (although there can be), but because 99.9% of the time they don't have unsalted fries premade and they have to make me a fresh batch of fries.
 
2013-02-12 12:18:25 PM

Dafatone: Man, you suggest that hey, maybe trying something different in one part of the country isn't the end of the world, and everyone just freaks out and screeches "FREEDOM" at you.

Seriously, if you're dead set on NYC being filled with "nanny-state liberals," "babies," etc... why do you give a fark what's going on there?

Let them try something different, and maybe in 20 years it'll be the only thin part of the country.  Or, maybe it won't make a difference.

But it's great to see all this outrage from people who would never go near New York in the first place.


That's right. NYC has never been known to send their cops out to other states or anything like that. All of the scorn you guys get is completely undeserved.
 
2013-02-12 12:41:31 PM

Kit Fister: max_pooper: Neither. I'm just trying to stomp down all the stupidity from all the whiners in this thread. I don't understand how people can look at a campaign to voluntarily reduce sodium content in prepared foods and think, "Stop making things I like illegal!!!!"

Nobody, certainly not Bloomberg, is asking for a law to ban salty foods. If you want to drink soy sauce and anchovy smoothies for breakfast everyday, go right ahead.

Yes, and somehow voluntary campaigns like this somehow turn into laws. First it was a voluntary campaign about smoking/second hand smoke...leading to a ban. Then it was a voluntary campaign about volume of soda, turning into a restriction on volumes that businesses can sell.

So, tell me, sparky, why people shouldn't be leery of these types of campaigns?


Right.  So if anything, the food industry should DOUBLE the salt in all their products, FOR FREEDOM.

And I'm not advocating that solely because I work in a salt mine.

(note:  I actually do work in a salt mine)
 
2013-02-12 12:58:18 PM

GoldSpider: JonBuck: I was more referring to his sentiment, considering his posting history in this thread, that he thinks he has the right to control everything that might cost him a little more on his health premiums. He was talking about this issue in general terms, so was I.

Was trying to play a little Devil's Advocate in this thread, and sadly it seems a lot of people agreed with the sentiment.  It's scary how people are willing to give up their rights to follow moral crusaders like Bloomberg.

And anyone arguing that nobody should make a fuss because this isn't a ban or regulation is obviously unfamiliar with Bloomberg's recent body of work.


Scary, isn't it? We've seen where this road goes, after all. Regulation in moderation. Yes, this was a voluntary program, but it's consistent with Bloomberg's other "ban this, ban that" actions.
 
2013-02-12 01:05:26 PM
Who is John Galt?
 
2013-02-12 01:11:39 PM

Kit Fister: How farking hard is it for you to understand and accept that some people hate the idea of "voluntary campaigns" and legislative actions designed to target what it is they do and how they do it? How would you feel if we started a voluntary campaign to ban your favorite [activity, lifestyle choice, condiment] for whatever reason? Would you gladly accept other people looking in on how YOU choose to live YOUR life and dictate to you what you're doing wrong?


Right.  So let's repeal the regulations that out lawed commercial volumes to be twice the volume of the show you're watching, because the industry can always be trusted not to fark over and annoy their customers.
 
2013-02-12 01:43:02 PM
"salt has been deemed bad for you, thus, it is illegal."
 
2013-02-12 02:08:09 PM

Kit Fister: Or, you know, I could always just mute the commercials...or fast-forward through them with my tivo....or, you know, not watch TV.

But yes, let's legislate the problem because people can't handle taking care of themselves or being responsible for dealing with their own issues and annoyances.


EXACTLY.  Down with all laws, we can always trust businesses to behave and savvy consumers to make intelligent choices.  And it should always be on the consumer to make all decisions.  In fact, to make it easier for consumers to decide, we should also repeal the laws requiring labels on food as well.
 
2013-02-12 02:08:52 PM
Also, wow, this thread is full of "wharrgarble on about the paranoid fantasy in my head rather than any loose suggestion of reality" although one or two people did kick it up to "this is only the first step to jackbooted thugs breaking your door down and hauling you away." Sad that voluntary programs, which we also call "suggestions", get that kind of hate, but this is fark, where everything has to be tied to libtards, repugnicans, and religion somehow.

And Screamliner. Bloomberg must be working with Boeing to take the heat off the planes.
 
2013-02-12 02:23:36 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Kit Fister: Or, you know, I could always just mute the commercials...or fast-forward through them with my tivo....or, you know, not watch TV.

But yes, let's legislate the problem because people can't handle taking care of themselves or being responsible for dealing with their own issues and annoyances.

EXACTLY.  Down with all laws, we can always trust businesses to behave and savvy consumers to make intelligent choices.  And it should always be on the consumer to make all decisions.  In fact, to make it easier for consumers to decide, we should also repeal the laws requiring labels on food as well.


You're taking it too far. There's a difference between a regulation that prevents Salmonella or PCBs from getting into food, and another one that bans a substance for dubious health reasons.
 
2013-02-12 02:39:58 PM

JonBuck: You're taking it too far. There's a difference between a regulation that prevents Salmonella or PCBs from getting into food, and another one that bans a substance for dubious health reasons.


I don't think anyone has even suggested banning salt.
 
2013-02-12 02:46:48 PM

Hickory-smoked: muck4doo: Abacus9: muck4doo: Abacus9: Regulating what restaurants serve and what is in prepackaged food isn't "regulating your diet." In fact, this is really nothing new.

Lulz! Have a sprite on me, but make sure it isn't too big.

So buy two.

That wouldn't be politically correct. Have some water instead until they regulate how much of that you can have. It will be in your best interest, stupid citizen.

No, buying two sodas is perfectly legal. But don't let how the law actually works get in the way of your persecution fantasies.


Why have those laws in the first place, other than you support authoritarian douchebags?
 
2013-02-12 02:48:33 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Kit Fister: Or, you know, I could always just mute the commercials...or fast-forward through them with my tivo....or, you know, not watch TV.

But yes, let's legislate the problem because people can't handle taking care of themselves or being responsible for dealing with their own issues and annoyances.

EXACTLY.  Down with all laws, we can always trust businesses to behave and savvy consumers to make intelligent choices.  And it should always be on the consumer to make all decisions.  In fact, to make it easier for consumers to decide, we should also repeal the laws requiring labels on food as well.


Big government nanny's is the way to go.
 
2013-02-12 02:49:06 PM

Satanic_Hamster: JonBuck: You're taking it too far. There's a difference between a regulation that prevents Salmonella or PCBs from getting into food, and another one that bans a substance for dubious health reasons.

I don't think anyone has even suggested banning salt.


This guy did, about three years ago. (NYT link)

"Plain as day, or perhaps unsalted french fries, Assembly Bill A10129, introduced last Friday, says, "No owner or operator of a restaurant in this state shall use salt in any form in the preparation of any food for consumption by customers of such restaurant, including food prepared to be consumed on the premises of such restaurant or off the premises."
 
2013-02-12 02:55:39 PM

Kit Fister: Them's the brakes. It ain't government's job to force change, and it ain't my job or responsibility to tell other people how to live their lives, nor is it anyone else's job to tell me how to live mine.


Your right, government should never try to change or improve society in any manner.  I love for immediate repeal of all civil rights laws.

JonBuck: This guy did, about three years ago. (NYT link)


That guy's blog sucks.
 
2013-02-12 03:31:14 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Your right, government should never try to change or improve society in any manner.


They should focus on solving the problems they are already responsible for, such as teaching people third-grade level English so they will know the difference between "your" and "you're".
 
2013-02-12 03:31:33 PM

Kit Fister: Satanic_Hamster: Your right, government should never try to change or improve society in any manner. I love for immediate repeal of all civil rights laws.

improving society by enforcing the rights of civilians is not the same as by legislating social change by forcibly changing the available choices of the individual.

Case in point:
Laws that prevent discrimination in terms of marriage and free speech GOOD.
Laws that actively force citizens to change their social ways by making certain options and types of every day items illegal to them BAD.

We proved this when we tried to force social change by banning booze. We prove this daily when we spend billions of dollars and thousands of lives on the war on drugs that does absolutely NOTHING to stop the flood of illegal drugs or their use, and only helps foster a massive, highly profitable black market.

It is NOT the right of the government or the citizenry to force me to change legislatively. The ONLY thing that the government has a right to do is pass laws that restrict my behavior in such a manner that if I harm others in ways that are not justified, I am punished.

I patently reject your belief that the government should act as the agent provacateur in social change by actively seeking to use legislation to change the choices made by population.

Another example: You have every right to pass laws that govern the taxing, registration, and requirements for efficiency and emissions for my vehicle. You have no right to pass laws that ban certain vehicles because you believe they either serve no purpose or are responsible for pollution.

And yet another example: You can pass a law that taxes inefficient lightbulbs. But you have no right or constitutional onus/backing to pass a law that bans my owning inefficient lightbulbs.

This goes back to that whole personal responsibility thing.


Favoriting you
 
2013-02-12 04:57:43 PM

umad: Satanic_Hamster: Your right, government should never try to change or improve society in any manner.

They should focus on solving the problems they are already responsible for, such as teaching people third-grade level English so they will know the difference between "your" and "you're".


You missed the "love" typo as well.
 
2013-02-12 06:54:00 PM
Since you might make a choice we don't approve of, we've eliminated your ability to choose things we don't approve of.

But you remain free to do as we like.

You're welcome.
 
2013-02-12 07:48:49 PM
 
2013-02-12 07:48:49 PM
milton sez "no salt!"
 
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