DarwiOdrade: By the way, Ben Carson doesn't believe in, or seem to understand, evolution either: "I don't believe in evolution...evolution says that because there are these similarities, even though we can't specifically connect them, it proves that this is what happened."
WhyteRaven74: SomeoneDumb: That's a pretty crowded locale.Yeah it's gotten rather crowded over the last 40 years
Mrtraveler01: k1j2b3: So apparently when actual hispanics decide to talk about immigration (Rubio, e.g.) it is still racist...if you are a conservative hispanic.Actually, the real funny thing is that the right disagrees with Rubio's stance on immigration.Thanks for making me laugh!
k1j2b3: I think you all missed what the HSA idea was about. Instead of paying into Medicare our whole lives, that would be put into a personal HSA account. At least, that was the basic idea. Dr. Carson said that there was more detail to it than that, so he was just throwing out an idea.I think this makes sense. It would be in lieu of health insurance. You spend in on medical needs as necessary throughout life. It would be up to the elderly person with a lot to spend in his HSA account, if he wanted that knee replacement at 90 or a quadruple bypass at 85, or if he'd rather not spend that money and pass it on to his family.Now, I see do see a problem with this simplified explanation. What happens to the baby at 2 years old that needs heart surgery and doesn't have enough money in an HSA? I'd be curious to hear more about the whole idea.
hackalope: So HSAs have been working in Singapore for a while now. I personally worry about consumer fraud, failures of long term personal planning, and how the finical apparatus to actually save the money would work. That being said it's one of the more viable ways to address heath care problems, it a legitimate view.
jehovahs witness protection: We like the hell out of him
DarwiOdrade: SomeoneDumb: Masso: Are USA ready for Seventh-Day Adventist President?I have no idea where they fit on the evangelical scale.To give you an idea, an SDA church I pass by on my way to & from work has this on their sign: If evolution were true, mothers would have four arms.
WhyteRaven74: SomeoneDumb: I have no idea where they fit on the evangelical scale.they're on the batshiat crazy side
tenpoundsofcheese: so much typical hatred and racism from the left.
Moldy, Half-Eaten Ham Sandwich / Palin 2016!
Mrtraveler01: Sergeant Grumbles: Mrtraveler01: HSA's are worthless.I'm in my mid-20's and even I don't have one because I'd rather have comprehensive insurance instead of taking a chance and having to pay out of pocket for my medical expenses if something bad were to happen to me.But this guy's plan is worse.Inheritable HSA's? I mean.... what the holy fark. Let's just drop the pretense that this is anything else but a way for the wealthy to further segregate themselves from those wretched poors.I don't even get the inheritable part.What exactly does that mean?
k1j2b3: I think I would trust a neurosurgeon who has spent more than 35 years in healthcare and insurance to know more than 99% of the commenters.
HotWingConspiracy: k1j2b3: mongbiohazard:Likewise the GOP has a problem with the latino vote... so their solution is to make some noise about fixing our illegal/legal immigration mess with confidence that's going to get the latino votes. They don't even realize how condescending that sounds or how incomplete it is. They can only insist so many times that they're not racist before the denials start wearing thin - and that time was some time ago.So apparently when actual hispanics decide to talk about immigration (Rubio, e.g.) it is still racist...if you are a conservative hispanic. I get it. Only liberal hispanics are 'real' hispanics.Rubio probably isn't a racist, but his party and their financial backers are. He's a marketing gimmick.Plus you need to consider how everyone that isn't Cuban feels about the sweetheart treatment that Cubans get in terms of immigration.
Sergeant Grumbles: NFA: In fact he said Americans desperately need healthcare.But he said the best way to do that was with HSA's that could be passed on via inheritance, and that the government would still pay for the indigent. That sounds worse than what we already have. We need to get the free market as far away from healthcare as possible.
MacEnvy: So all the GOP needs to do to win is "black it up" a little? You morons, this is why you will continue to lose. You honestly think it's about race and not about policy. You epic failures of human beings.
Grungehamster: Add in the fact that so much of the safety net is on the chopping block because it's obviously full of lazy abusers, and that tells me his solution would end up casting everyone who has ever gotten cancer and then had their policy lapse is now one of those selfish takers who are scamming the system.
Guntram Shatterhand: MacEnvy: So all the GOP needs to do to win is "black it up" a little? You morons, this is why you will continue to lose. You honestly think it's about race and not about policy. You epic failures of human beings.Not to mention the Republicans are playing the Long Primary that caused Romney to implode. Why the fark are they running for 2016, again? 2014 is right around the corner and a lot of people are realizing the Republican Congress is doing a lot of shiatty things right now. Not to mention it's quite pointless to start looking for someone to run against a President who won't even be able to run in 2016. Why are they choose an Obamabuster now?The Republicans are trying their hardest to paste their shiatty viewpoints on someone who isn't an old white asshole and it simply is not working. Not only are they still pulling their same old tired shiat, they're still fighting against a president that kicked their asses twice who has basically won against them. Yet notice they're still farking that chicken as well.
Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: I guess it means if you have any money left in your HSA after you get done paying for dying (an expensive thing to do in this country) you can will it to your kids.
"I like the cut of your jib. Though, uh, you've kept away from the white women, right?"
Somacandra: [upload.wikimedia.org image 198x202]This is America. Theoretically, anyone's got a chance. Let him run. I don't think he'll get past the primaries, but who knows? Give it a shot.[checks Wiki....]Oh shiat....he's a Seventh-Day Adventist? Good luck with that. I would be very very surprised if he gets the Fundie nod. Then again, then held their noses for Romney and Joseph Smith. They might hold their nose for Carson and Ellen G. White.
runwiz: HSA's for everyone may sound good but how much can the average and below average worker put into an HSA to cover himself and the family.
homelessdude: He has a lot of quick, pat answers on some big issues.Interesting, but let's see how this plays out.
what_now: "We can make contributions for people who are indigent," Carson said. "Instead of sending all this money to some bureaucracy, let's put it in their HSAs.Indigent people have HSAs?Seriously can we stop acting like an HSA does anything at all to cover health care costs? HSA is a tax cut for people who already have health insurance.
Grungehamster: Sergeant Grumbles: NFA: In fact he said Americans desperately need healthcare.But he said the best way to do that was with HSA's that could be passed on via inheritance, and that the government would still pay for the indigent. That sounds worse than what we already have. We need to get the free market as far away from healthcare as possible.I had a professor like this in when I was in college back in 2009. He was a genius guy, but that whole idea astounds me just from a policy perspective. He basically said "look, if the problem is people unable to get insurance, than the least invasive solution is for the government to back private pre-existing condition insurance plans like they do student loans! Once the free market knows there is profit to be made, we can have universal coverage if people want it while leaving people free to not buy insurance if they want!"
slayer199: Still a member of the GOP and I didn't see him say much about his social policies. If he's a social moderate, the GOP establishment won't give him a shot...if he's a wacky social conservative, the electorate won't give him a shot.
colon_pow: so you're paying $2500-3000 per year for insurance whether you get sick or not.i pay about $35/month for a $6000 deductible, put $300/month in the HSA and pay all my medical bills out of that. I've been coming out ahead for the past 2 years i've been doing it that way.
Infernalist: Just another rich asshole.
Doktor_Zhivago: spiderpaz: Why would I want someone as egotistical as a neurosurgeon to be my President? How does that make them a good President? Is his qualification that he's black .... and that's it? So I guess the GOP still just doesn't get it and they're going to shoot themselves in the foot AGAIN.Gais... Gais... Guess what.. Gaissssss. GAIS! WE GOT A BLACK GUY!That means we're not racist cause we have a black friend now!Gais, Gais, This is sweet we are so not racist now. We got Herman Cain, this dude, and Marco Rubio! That's like three! Gais! THREE!!We are SO not racist. We love minorities so much they make up .000000000001% of the party and we'll talk about them for like 10 whole minutes before stuffing them into their minority cage until the next election cycle.Gais. Now let's call the democrats racist cause we have a black gai. Yeah.. That's the ticket. That's why everyone hates us, not enough black gais.
GilRuiz1: Infernalist: Just another rich asshole.And you know this... how?Read his autobiography first, then you can judge:[cdn-parable.com image 249x400]
GilRuiz1: Read his autobiography first, then you can judge
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