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(US News)   Doctors struggle with "totally untreatable" tuberculosis in South Africa. Well, nice knowing you all   (usnews.com) divider line 150
    More: Scary, South African, Emerging Infectious Diseases, lung disease, tuberculosis, George V, Durban  
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2013-02-11 06:38:50 PM  

basemetal: Time to bring back the sanatoriums.


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Dammit, Jim, I'm a failed Presidential candidate, not a doctor.
 
2013-02-11 06:41:27 PM  

stuhayes2010: But I'm sick and need pills.


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Here, I have modified this tricorder to emit a transtachyon metabaryonic waveform pulse. You'll be cured instantly.

It is only logical for me to warn you, if you move you will be vaporized.
 
2013-02-11 06:42:30 PM  

Moonfisher: In America, you are correct. In a developing nation, however, what you call noncompliance is a euphemism that shifts the blame to the patient when said patient lacks the agency to comply. Many of the poor and ill in these nations have to travel miles and miles to access a clinic, do not have access to clean water or proper nutr


There is also the problem that any long term antibiotics will be sold of given to someone else as they appear to have a more urgent need of them.  So if your happen to be a mother with TB and your kid has an infected scratch, the kid gets the antibiotics (and the TB too!)
 
2013-02-11 06:42:34 PM  

BronyMedic: You didn't just misuse a word...


Reminds me of the whole "clip vs magazine" thing that we saw so much a while back.  GAT_00 can no longer have an opinion on medicine, bacteria, or disease.
 
2013-02-11 06:44:51 PM  
sucks. my grandmother in puerto rico died in the 50's from TB.
 
2013-02-11 06:45:11 PM  

GAT_00: BronyMedic: ecmoRandomNumbers: My mom's health department has been dealing with this for 3 years, submitter. It's already here.

Going to say it's been here for a long time.

XDR-MDR TB is one of the few reasons in a modern age someone can get an involuntary quarantine order placed upon them by a court.

And medical science hasn't created any fundamentally new antibiotics in decades.  It's why so many viruses are adapting to basically everything, on top of bad treatment regimens and failures to finish taking full doses.


Paging Doctor Morbo, paging Doctor Morbo
 
2013-02-11 06:45:17 PM  

KrispyKritter: BumpInTheNight: This is why I don't wash my hands with soap when I pee.  I will outlive you all.

Everyone knows to pee directly on your hands. Right?


Its nature's antiseptic!
 
2013-02-11 06:46:14 PM  
Like many bacterial diseases, tuberculosis has been evolving

HERESY!
 
2013-02-11 06:47:09 PM  

stevenboof: BronyMedic: You didn't just misuse a word...

Reminds me of the whole "clip vs magazine" thing that we saw so much a while back.  GAT_00 can no longer have an opinion on medicine, bacteria, or disease.


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2013-02-11 06:47:44 PM  

GAT_00: BronyMedic: GAT_00: BronyMedic: GAT_00: And medical science hasn't created any fundamentally new antibiotics in decades.  It's why so many viruses are adapting to basically everything, on top of bad treatment regimens and failures to finish taking full doses.

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Yes, I misused a word.  My bad.

You didn't just misuse a word...

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But you knew what I meant, you knew what I should have said.


There are mistakes and then there are mistakes.

There's sweeping your teamate with barrel of a painball gun in the heat of a match, and then there's pointing a loaded .50 cal turret at a school with children inside. Totally different orders of magnitude.
 
2013-02-11 06:49:20 PM  

Snarfangel: basemetal: Time to bring back the sanatoriums.

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Dammit, Jim, I'm a failed Presidential candidate, not a doctor.


9 seconds buddy.

9 seconds.

/High-five anyway, for the near simul-post.
 
2013-02-11 06:50:50 PM  
I think I read about this in a Peter Watts novel.
 
2013-02-11 06:50:56 PM  
Okay, GAT_00's utter screw up aside, the future probably is going to call for selective or engineered viruses that love the bacterium we want to wage war on.

Of course, I can start the conspiracy theories already. "Virus-based-antibiotics are a known cause of various cancers and these new cures for bacterial infections is just a scheme to increase the incidence of cancer which they make more money treating". See, the treatment isn't even outta the labs and I already have the Alex Jones take on it.

/If I weren't trying to fight it I'd write it.
 
2013-02-11 06:51:02 PM  

GAT_00: BronyMedic: GAT_00: BronyMedic: GAT_00: And medical science hasn't created any fundamentally new antibiotics in decades.  It's why so many viruses are adapting to basically everything, on top of bad treatment regimens and failures to finish taking full doses.

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Yes, I misused a word.  My bad.

You didn't just misuse a word...

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But you knew what I meant, you knew what I should have said.


Now would be a good time to get a laugh, admit you screwed the pooch and move on.  Blame it on global warming or boss induced involuntary sobriety
 
2013-02-11 06:51:13 PM  

doglover: There's sweeping your teamate with barrel of a painball gun in the heat of a match, and then there's pointing a loaded .50 cal turret at a school with children inside. Totally different orders of magnitude.


You're assuming I accidentally shot James in the balls in the "heat of the match", and not because I found out he was hitting on my wife.
 
2013-02-11 06:51:47 PM  

iron de havilland: Snarfangel: basemetal: Time to bring back the sanatoriums.

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Dammit, Jim, I'm a failed Presidential candidate, not a doctor.

9 seconds buddy.

9 seconds.

/High-five anyway, for the near simul-post.


There was Santorum everywhere. :D
 
2013-02-11 06:52:41 PM  

BronyMedic: doglover: There's sweeping your teamate with barrel of a painball gun in the heat of a match, and then there's pointing a loaded .50 cal turret at a school with children inside. Totally different orders of magnitude.

You're assuming I accidentally shot James in the balls in the "heat of the match", and not because I found out he was hitting on my wife.


In his defense, your wife DID make the first move.
 
2013-02-11 06:53:04 PM  

BronyMedic: doglover: There's sweeping your teamate with barrel of a painball gun in the heat of a match, and then there's pointing a loaded .50 cal turret at a school with children inside. Totally different orders of magnitude.

You're assuming I accidentally shot James in the balls in the "heat of the match", and not because I found out he was hitting on my wife.


I didn't say shoot. Just where the barrels are pointed.
 
2013-02-11 06:54:23 PM  

wildcardjack: Okay, GAT_00's utter screw up aside, the future probably is going to call for selective or engineered viruses that love the bacterium we want to wage war on.

Of course, I can start the conspiracy theories already. "Virus-based-antibiotics are a known cause of various cancers and these new cures for bacterial infections is just a scheme to increase the incidence of cancer which they make more money treating". See, the treatment isn't even outta the labs and I already have the Alex Jones take on it.

/If I weren't trying to fight it I'd write it.


Phage therapy was investigated in the USSR during the cold war, when antibiotics were not easy for the communists to come by. The problem with phages, however, is that each phage is specific to the bacterium which it attacks and kills, meaning that multiorganism infections, or unknown infections, would render it useless. So if you had a patient in sepsis or in a situation where time was critical, you're pretty much screwed. In addition, you have the problem of phages sometimes imparting factors which increase the virulence or lethality of bacteria as well. Take Enterohemorrhagic E. Coli - it requires a gene imparted by a phage before it produces the EH toxin. Then you have the problem of your patient's own immune system. Things like stomach acid, and the general density of white blood cells in the GI tract were designed to kill foreign antigens, and you risk provoking an immune response by bloodstream administration.
 
2013-02-11 07:01:21 PM  
Can't believe so many are sick in Tampa Bay.
 
2013-02-11 07:02:28 PM  

Deep Contact: Can't believe so many are sick in Tampa Bay.


Really? It's Florida. That's like God's waiting room.
 
2013-02-11 07:04:17 PM  

Yogimus: MFK: to "treatments" instead of "cures" anyway. You "cure" a patient, and you'll never see them again, but if you "treat" a disease, well... you've got yourself a customer who is totally de

^ and then comes this guy.


He's got a point, though.
 
2013-02-11 07:06:27 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Hey uh.

Maybe we start treating antibacterial misuse as mass murder.

Because it is.


Ok, can we deal with the anti vaxers in the same manner?
 
2013-02-11 07:06:56 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: GAT_00: BronyMedic: GAT_00: BronyMedic: GAT_00: And medical science hasn't created any fundamentally new antibiotics in decades.  It's why so many viruses are adapting to basically everything, on top of bad treatment regimens and failures to finish taking full doses.

[www.theappleclan.com image 610x250]

Yes, I misused a word.  My bad.

You didn't just misuse a word...

[img209.imageshack.us image 400x256]

But you knew what I meant, you knew what I should have said.

Now would be a good time to get a laugh, admit you screwed the pooch and move on.  Blame it on global warming or boss induced involuntary sobriety


I'm not pretending that I didn't screw up.  That would be stupid.
 
2013-02-11 07:10:20 PM  

angrymacface: Yogimus: MFK: to "treatments" instead of "cures" anyway. You "cure" a patient, and you'll never see them again, but if you "treat" a disease, well... you've got yourself a customer who is totally de

^ and then comes this guy.

He's got a point, though.


No, he doesn't.
 
2013-02-11 07:12:17 PM  

BronyMedic: angrymacface: Yogimus: MFK: to "treatments" instead of "cures" anyway. You "cure" a patient, and you'll never see them again, but if you "treat" a disease, well... you've got yourself a customer who is totally de

^ and then comes this guy.

He's got a point, though.

No, he doesn't.


He most certainly does.
 
2013-02-11 07:12:24 PM  
If raping a virgin cures AIDS, what will be the African cure for this TB?
 
2013-02-11 07:15:56 PM  
Growing up In Australia we never heard of TB. Nevarr. In fact, we got taught that it Australia had "defeated" it, so I'm not imagining this.

 
Now ya regularly hear about cases.

 
The re emergence of TB sorta, kinda, coincidentally started with the craze of letting shiateloads of African immigrants into the country.


But we better not discuss it. Feelings might get hurt.
 
2013-02-11 07:16:55 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: .

 boss induced involuntary sobriety


All kidding aside, I'm totally stealing this and plan to use it as often as possible
 
xcv
2013-02-11 07:17:17 PM  
~30 years ago when my mom was in med school the instructor told the students to get a look at TB cases while they were rotating through a clinic in rural Central America, but they'd 'never see a TB patient back in the US.'
 
2013-02-11 07:17:44 PM  

angrymacface: He most certainly does.


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No, he doesn't. It's an inane conspiracy theory passed around by people who like to sound intellectually superior to the masses of sheeple they regard everyone else as. In reality, it requires a complete suspension of knowledge in the human factor of any conspiracy theory, namely that no one is motivated by anything other than money, and that everyone's silence is able to be bought off. Even assuming the above two are true, it requires such human competence as for there to be no evidence, at all, of the conspiracy occuring, and no evidence of the supposed "cures" being suppressed.

In this case, most cases of TB are highly curable using either a single drug, or combination of drugs. However, M. Tuberculosis also RAPIDLY develops drug resistance when those drugs are taken improperly.

You shouldn't attribute conspiracy to what is explainable by evolution. You look like a dipshiat.
 
2013-02-11 07:17:51 PM  

Vectron: If raping a virgin cures AIDS, what will be the African cure for this TB?


Probably raping a virgin.

You're all missing the point here.  It's Africa.  Nobody has cared about Africa since Live Aid.
 
2013-02-11 07:17:59 PM  
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2013-02-11 07:18:13 PM  

BronyMedic: angrymacface: Yogimus: MFK: to "treatments" instead of "cures" anyway. You "cure" a patient, and you'll never see them again, but if you "treat" a disease, well... you've got yourself a customer who is totally de

^ and then comes this guy.

He's got a point, though.

No, he doesn't.

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Fark's resident big mouth left wing moron is in da house!
 
2013-02-11 07:19:04 PM  
Isn't the goddamned nano technology supposed to be curing us ... of ... everything? Maybe I should start taking some personal responsibility for my girth instead of awaiting the nano fat eaters.
 
2013-02-11 07:20:39 PM  

Big Ramifications: Fark's resident big mouth left wing moron is in da house!


Your right wing tears are delicious.

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2013-02-11 07:21:03 PM  
TB ain't good, but it's not contagious enough to be a global killer. Europe lived with TB (consumption) for centuries with no cure or treatment.
 
2013-02-11 07:23:56 PM  

GAT_00: Smeggy Smurf: GAT_00: BronyMedic: GAT_00: BronyMedic: GAT_00: And medical science hasn't created any fundamentally new antibiotics in decades.  It's why so many viruses are adapting to basically everything, on top of bad treatment regimens and failures to finish taking full doses.

[www.theappleclan.com image 610x250]

Yes, I misused a word.  My bad.

You didn't just misuse a word...

[img209.imageshack.us image 400x256]

But you knew what I meant, you knew what I should have said.

Now would be a good time to get a laugh, admit you screwed the pooch and move on.  Blame it on global warming or boss induced involuntary sobriety

I'm not pretending that I didn't screw up.  That would be stupid.


Man, you had them going. You should have kept it up.

This thread has been another GAT classic. Nobody baits the hook with concentrated derp and derails a thread like you do. Since it is impossible to be 100% wrong 100% of the time I have decided that you are actually a genius who belongs in the club with greats like spentmiles and pocket_ninja. I salute you sir.
 
2013-02-11 07:24:33 PM  

Virtuoso80: TB ain't good, but it's not contagious enough to be a global killer. Europe lived with TB (consumption) for centuries with no cure or treatment.


Some of us don't long for the days of feudalism to return.
 
2013-02-11 07:25:38 PM  

umad: Man, you had them going. You should have kept it up.

This thread has been another GAT classic. Nobody baits the hook with concentrated derp and derails a thread like you do. Since it is impossible to be 100% wrong 100% of the time I have decided that you are actually a genius who belongs in the club with greats like spentmiles and pocket_ninja. I salute you sir.


And you're just nuts.  I just screwed up.  But please, continue your constructed narrative.
 
2013-02-11 07:26:41 PM  

angrymacface: Whatever. You're probably a paid shill. We know the truth and you people won't be able to hide it forever.


Riiiiiiiight. Well, I guess you can go that route when you have no other response that's possible.

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2013-02-11 07:27:42 PM  

TomD9938: BumpInTheNight: This is why I don't wash my hands with soap when
I pee.  I will outlive you all.

It's harder than it sounds too.

I have a friend who is never sick and attributes it to never washing his hands after taking a leak or a crap.

At first I thought, "B.S.", but OTOH, knowing your fingers are teaming with bacteria is a good incentive to keep them the hell out of your mouth, nose, etc.


Well, I wash my hands frequently and don't ever get sick.  I also have kids which are notorious for spreading germs.

Moral of the story, your friend is simply nasty and not doing himself any favors.
 
2013-02-11 07:27:55 PM  
Tuberculosis is a man-made virus. Everyone up to the President is at UNATCO's mercy as long as UNATCO controls the supply of Ambrosia.
 
2013-02-11 07:27:58 PM  

GAT_00: umad: Man, you had them going. You should have kept it up.

This thread has been another GAT classic. Nobody baits the hook with concentrated derp and derails a thread like you do. Since it is impossible to be 100% wrong 100% of the time I have decided that you are actually a genius who belongs in the club with greats like spentmiles and pocket_ninja. I salute you sir.

And you're just nuts.  I just screwed up.  But please, continue your constructed narrative.


You "screwed up" and started a shiatstorm. You are awesome at this. I'm being completely serious.
 
2013-02-11 07:28:07 PM  

Loki009: Has there been any work on phage therapy and TB? I don't know much about it but I remeber a few years back there was talk about using it on resistant MRSA

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2013-02-11 07:31:08 PM  

GAT_00: Virtuoso80: TB ain't good, but it's not contagious enough to be a global killer. Europe lived with TB (consumption) for centuries with no cure or treatment.

Some of us don't long for the days of feudalism to return.


But ergot poisoning gets you sooooo high. Yeah, you die as your limbs rot off snd it's treatable with basic sanitation and some pills. But soooo high.
 
2013-02-11 07:31:10 PM  
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2013-02-11 07:33:41 PM  

angrymacface: BronyMedic: angrymacface: Yogimus: MFK: to "treatments" instead of "cures" anyway. You "cure" a patient, and you'll never see them again, but if you "treat" a disease, well... you've got yourself a customer who is totally de

^ and then comes this guy.

He's got a point, though.

No, he doesn't.

He most certainly does.


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2013-02-11 07:34:20 PM  

GAT_00: d medical science hasn't created any fundamentally new antibiotics in decades. It's why so many viruses are adapting to basically everything, on top of bad treatment regimens and failures to finish taking full doses.


heh - you said antibiotics treating viruses.  That's funny.

But yeah, just lectured by dad the other day about this, when he offered to let me have some of his "left over" antibiotics to treat my arm after a bit of a mishap I had.  After questioning, turns out he's one of THEM who stop taking antibiotics once the problem "goes away" per his perspective.  Boo.  Told him that if he didn't think the doctor knew what they were talking about when they told him how many to take, then he shouldn't take the pills at all; take all or none, people.  Don't just take some of them.
 
2013-02-11 07:34:50 PM  
Quote from article: "which can't be said for some more innocuous bacteria that have developed drug resistances, such as gonorrhea.

Anyone imagine an explanation about giving their other half the clap containing the phrase: "but don't worry, it's innocuous."

Seriously whilst it's an African problem at present, it's just a hop, skip and a plane ride to the rest of the world.  I know because when I first came to the U.S. I did not have any type of TB.  Now I likely have latent TB, thanks to some tosser walking around coughing & hacking all over the place.

/ Thanking the Big Pharma gods, taking meds and the bug shouldn't harm me - so all will be well.
 
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