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(Big 1059)   CNN host asks Bill Nye (Science Guy) if asteroid heading towards Earth was caused by global warming   (big1059.com) divider line 15
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2013-02-11 03:53:45 PM
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durbnpoisn: If you shrank everything down to where Jupiter was the size of a pea, Pluto would still be 7 miles away, and only about the size of a bacteria. If you shrank Jupiter even smaller, to the size of a period, Pluto would still be 15 feet away, and about the size of a molecule. On this scale, Alpha Centuri would be about 10,000 miles away.
I'm sure that's not exact, but it's a pretty good representation.


I actually did something similar in one of my books, using actual scale dimensions:

Let's say the Earth is the size of a marble. Using this marble as a scale dimension, the moon is about the size of a small pea and is orbiting Earth from a foot away. That might not seem like such a great distance until you realize that in 1969 a microscopic grain of sand under its own power left the marble and landed on the pea, stayed there for a few days, and returned safely. That is a very long distance for a grain of sand - too small to be seen with the naked eye - to travel all by itself. Even an inch is an incredible distance at this scale, and that grain of sand traveled over two entire feet of nothingness.

In this model, the sun is a yellow Volkswagon bug, and if it were hovering in the end zone of a football field, our marble Earth would be orbiting it from the opposite end zone. There is another marble - a dirty brown one - around the 30 yard line on Earth's side, and there is a smaller pea around the 40 yard line on the sun's side. But other than, there is nothing else on the field. At least, that would be there all the time.

Let's pretend this football field of the inner solar system is in downtown Manhatten. Mars is an orange seed and is somewhere in the upper deck. Jupiter is a basketball, and it is in the furthest possible parking spot outside the stadium. Saturn is a pogo ball and it's somewhere on the waterfront. Uranus is a honeydew melon hanging out at the Statue of Liberty. Neptune is a blue tennis ball in Central Park somewhere. Pluto is in Newark.

Beyond that we have the Kuiper Belt which is a mass of individual sand particles, none of them bigger than a sesame seed, scattered out beyond New York City, and the Scattered Disk which has additional dust from as far away as Boston. And then there's the hypothesized Oort Cloud, dust in the wind circling a small car in a football stadium in Manhatten, from as far away as, theoretically, Germany (which would be exactly one light-year from our hypothetical sun car).

If you think this sounds like a very crowded and busy solar system, keep in mind that these are all small, comparatively insignificant objects (our blue marble Earth is the sixth largest thing in an area the size of the eastern seaboard) separated by miles and miles of empty, black nothingness. It's like a still ocean in the dead of night with a bunch of little milk carton boats on it, circling barely out of sight from one another. One of them has a lit candle.

The nearest star, Alpha Centauri, can't even be placed anywhere near this scale model solar system. The furthest point we can put anything from our Manhatten football stadium sun car is barely half the distance there - somewhere in the Indian ocean. And there is nothing along the way. No rest stop, no way point, not even a buoy. Did I mention that we are the size of a microscopic grain of sand?
2013-02-11 01:59:48 PM
5 votes:
A better link with Bill's response

That man is a true pro.
2013-02-11 01:58:11 PM
4 votes:
She just made a dumb mistake..... She was given the lead-in regarding the blizzard and the Global Warming connection, then they went to commercial, and they threw the meteor story in there too.

She's just a talking head, and they're trained to read the teleprompter, and interject minimal wisdom of their own.   I blame the producer for making it confusing on her dumb ass, more than i blame her.
2013-02-11 01:56:45 PM
3 votes:

cman: Wow....just wow.

I expect this thing from Fox but not from anyone else


cue CNN screencap "Space Shuttle Columbia traveling at # times speed of light" jpg
2013-02-11 10:09:24 PM
2 votes:

SevenizGud: What global warming?

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Cue the derptards to come in and tell us that in spite of 12 years of declining temperatures, the long-term trend is still positive, and temperature is CERTAIN to rise...you just watch...and trust us.


www.skepticalscience.net

Or, for the longer version, you're  lying - you haven't cherry-picked 12 years but instead just short of that  since 12 years even shows the opposite of what you wish.

We know you already acknowledge the problem inherent in making inferences from such a short period of time relative to short-term variability, so we might as well skip ahead:

SevenizGud: Damnhippyfreak: [socratic] Again, since we're interested in why whether "The earth is not PRESENTLY warming" or not, 4 years would be preferable to 10 or 15 years, yes? [/socratic] Quite a departure from the Hansen standard of 8 years. I like to be more robust in the analysis, to, you know, take out the variability. That's why 15 years. You know, more scientific. Because global warming is all about the underlying science, and not political footballing and shading the data.


So we know you are very much aware that a short term period (relative to variability) can be misleading. You contend that this is similar to what James Hansen used (supposedly only 8 years) in past congressional testimony. This is not the case, as his testimony and the papers it was based on used a longer period of time than that and did not solely rely on some sort of simple linear regression or simple correlation. I urge you once again to stand by your own words instead of hiding from them like a dishonest coward. Every time you ignore the fact that you are already aware of the problem with what you post, you're proving yourself to be more of a liar, and a coward, if not an irrational zealot.
2013-02-11 02:59:05 PM
2 votes:
The question comes from basically Religious/Magical thinking:

Religious: Is this God's punishment or warning to humans for causing global warming?

Magical: Bad things cause bad things.

 1) Global warming is bad.
 2) Being hit by a meteor is bad.
 3) therefore 1 will cause 2.
2013-02-11 02:13:50 PM
2 votes:

Freudian_slipknot: A better link with Bill's response

That man is a true pro.


He also put the fear of God into me by mentioning that the asteroid will miss us by 15 minutes. That's bloody close.
2013-02-11 02:09:12 PM
2 votes:

Earl of Chives: T.rex: She just made a dumb mistake..... She was given the lead-in regarding the blizzard and the Global Warming connection, then they went to commercial, and they threw the meteor story in there too.

She's just a talking head, and they're trained to read the teleprompter, and interject minimal wisdom of their own.   I blame the producer for making it confusing on her dumb ass, more than i blame her.

This is the correct answer.


We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who
Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
It's interesting when people die-
Give us dirty laundry
2013-02-11 02:04:07 PM
2 votes:

T.rex: She just made a dumb mistake..... She was given the lead-in regarding the blizzard and the Global Warming connection, then they went to commercial, and they threw the meteor story in there too.

She's just a talking head, and they're trained to read the teleprompter, and interject minimal wisdom of their own.   I blame the producer for making it confusing on her dumb ass, more than i blame her.


This is the correct answer.
2013-02-11 02:03:54 PM
2 votes:
CNN is trying to out-FOX FOX.
2013-02-11 03:41:20 PM
1 votes:
Space is big.  Really big.  You might think it's a long walk to the store, but it's nothing compared to space.

Bill Bryson summed it up pretty well in A Short History of Nearly Everything.  I will paraphrase, as there is no way I could remember this verbatim.

None of the maps of the solar system you have ever seen are even remotely drawn to scale.  Some images even show the planets casting shadows over each other.  But this is a necessary deceit to get them all to fit on one piece of paper.  It is pretty much impossoble to show the solar system to scale.  Even if you added lots of fold out pages to your book, you couldn't even come close.
If you shrank everything down to where Jupiter was the size of a pea, Pluto would still be 7 miles away, and only about the size of a bacteria.  If you shrank Jupiter even smaller, to the size of a period, Pluto would still be 15 feet away, and about the size of a molecule.  On this scale, Alpha Centuri would be about 10,000 miles away.

I'm sure that's not exact, but it's a pretty good representation.
2013-02-11 02:59:21 PM
1 votes:

jehovahs witness protection: ut liberals will still be stupid enough to take it as a distinct possibility.


Not really, no.

Conservatives will think this, though, because they tend to like projecting their own fear/gullibility on to others.

(DUCT TAPE AND SARAN WRAP AND JAYSUS, SAVE US FROM THE TERRORIST GAS ATTACK!)
2013-02-11 01:57:50 PM
1 votes:
This question is a direct result of christian scientific suppression and CNN's "no minimum IQ" requirement for on-air personalities.
2013-02-11 01:45:57 PM
1 votes:
Surely this is an exagger--- *clicks link* --- Christ...
2013-02-11 01:45:55 PM
1 votes:
GOP take notes, this is actually the best way to undermine climate change, steer into the curve.
 
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