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(The Inquirer)   Apple's plans to end the Era of the Smartphone by completely ripping off Dick Tracy   (theinquirer.net ) divider line
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2013-02-11 08:56:09 PM  

thomps: more like completely ripping off pebble


This times 9000.  I hope they have good patent lawyers.
 
2013-02-11 09:35:11 PM  
I see it's mostly been covered, but I hate to waste a perfectly good CTRL+C, so:
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/watch-phone.html
 
2013-02-11 11:20:37 PM  
another useless piece of drm strangled poo-poo
 
2013-02-11 11:42:31 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I used to be a fanatic about wearing a watch, so much so that if I forgot to put mine on, I'd turn around and go back home to get it.  Then one day, my battery went dead and I didn't have a chance to run out and get a new one.  After feeling naked for a few days, I got over it and haven't worn one since.  Everybody carries a phone these days, there's no reason to wear a watch unless you're trying to make a fashion statement when you're too lazy to get the battery replaced.



FTFY since it takes 10 to 15 minutes, if that, and you replaced something with a battery life measured in years with an item with a battery life measured in hours.
 
2013-02-12 01:22:07 AM  

MrSteve007: Mikey1969: Actually, the real point is that people who dive don't want to have to go up and leave their watch up top because it's only good to a certain point. Sorry guys, can't dive past 10 meters today, because I'm wearing the wrong watch. You go on and have fun without me. As for me, it's an added perk. I don't dive, I wear this watch because of its overall durability. The 200 M just means that ANY water I go in will never be too deep. One less thing to worry about.

A 50 meter rating would cover 99% of the world's scuba divers. Beyond that, you're talking about technical decompression or tri-mix diving. Anything with compressed gas beyond 100 meters is either military or daredevils. Most commercial operations would be using ROV's at that point.

Unless you're going for a world depth record, a 200M rating is beyond overkill.


Well, if I could find my G-Shocks with only 50M depth, I'd buy one, just so you could sleep at night, because it really concerns me that you are so worked up about it. As I said, it's just one more facet of my life I don't have to worry about. Short of a hammer blow directly to the crystal or an explosion. my watch is going to take anything I throw at it , and I've thrown a lot at them over the years, only ones that have broken were 2 where morons farked up the seals replacing the battery and one that had a blow directly to the crystal. Compare that to my phone which fell 8 inches and got a cracked screen.
 
2013-02-12 01:27:42 AM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Actually, I just bought a new watch.  For a *very* specific reason.

I'm a sysadmin, with over 80 servers in my data center.  The servers usually get their time synchronized from the domain controllers, and the DCs are set to pull time from authoritative time servers on the web.  And some of our clients have very particular requirements for their time sync and precision.

Now, there are a lot of places to get instructions on how to set this up.  And lots of places on the web where you can sync your time.  But one thing they don't do very well yet is to give you some way to check and make sure that this stuff is really working as advertised.

So, I just picked up a new Casio WaveCeptor watch, $40 online.  Quartz crystal as usual, but has a radio receiver and picks up the time sync signal from the National Bureau of Standards and Technology several times a day to keep itself accurate to within a second or less.

Now, I use that to double-check and make sure our time sync is working properly.


As long as you get a signal, that watch will be spot on . I have issues depending on what part of town I'm in, since we have a giant mountain range on the east side of town. Even if it only checks in every 3 or 4 days, it's perfect. Love it. Just make sure that if you've got the solar, you don't always wear long sleeves, and don't have the auto-backlight on. Your capacitor will stop charging and never get back up to 'High'. Not a replaceable part, either. Found that out the hard way when some asshole at the watch store crammed a battery in there anyway and it dies the next time I went to the river.
 
2013-02-12 01:30:28 AM  
Saw one of these once when I was a kid. No idea why some kid in 7th grade had one, though.

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/feature-world-s-first -t v-watch-from-1982
 
2013-02-12 01:35:32 AM  

HairBolus: ProfessorOhki: Seriously, what's so hard about looking at the lower-right side of your monitor.

Some people do not spend all of their waking hours sitting in front of a screen.


The watch haters are convinced that they don't need watches, not out of some actual self-realization, but because the Cool Kids™ said it once, so it must be true. All I know is that I don't have to recharge my watch, I don't need to pull it out of anywhere to use it, I don't have to wake it up, and it never needs a battery pull, or to reboot. I can also drop it and get it wet.

Of course, as far as status symbols go, it requires someone with an eye for that, as opposed to marketing-demographic sheep.
 
2013-02-12 01:45:29 AM  

crab66: fark watches.

red5ish: I do. Glancing at a wrist watch is faster and easier than dragging out a phone.


The extra 5 seconds is going to ruin my day!


James Bond wears a wrist watch.
 
2013-02-12 02:15:12 AM  
I love the pebble watch idea, but it's too much. Here's what I want. I want an e-ink watch. I want it to connect to my smrtphone. I want it to display the time. I want it to vibrate when my smrtphone does something. I want ONE line of clear text displaying who's calling, where I'm supposed to be in 26 minutes, etc. I want buttons on the side so I can select and read my text messages one line at a time. I want a speaker so I can talk to Siri or HAL. I want a 48-hour battery life. I want it to be small enough that I don't immediately think of a PIP-Boy when I look at it.

For anything else I need, I'll just pull out the smrtphone. For bonus points, I'd really like it if the company that makes this watch I'm requesting could also come up with a way for me to use a headset without looking like a douchebag. Hm. Actually, maybe if you had only an earpiece, you could talk to the watch. The main douchebag aspect of a headset is that you look like you're talking to yourself.
 
2013-02-12 02:15:50 AM  
3 years later: Microsoft resurrects the Timex Datalink watch, although customer confusion exists between the base Datalink model which is a plain digital watch, and the Datalink Pro which is a full-fledged Windows 10 computer in a wristwatch form factor.
 
2013-02-12 02:16:34 AM  
Clearly when I said speaker, I meant microphone. Too much whiskey on the keyboard.
 
2013-02-12 02:59:57 AM  

Mikey1969: MrSteve007: Mikey1969: Actually, the real point is that people who dive don't want to have to go up and leave their watch up top because it's only good to a certain point. Sorry guys, can't dive past 10 meters today, because I'm wearing the wrong watch. You go on and have fun without me. As for me, it's an added perk. I don't dive, I wear this watch because of its overall durability. The 200 M just means that ANY water I go in will never be too deep. One less thing to worry about.

A 50 meter rating would cover 99% of the world's scuba divers. Beyond that, you're talking about technical decompression or tri-mix diving. Anything with compressed gas beyond 100 meters is either military or daredevils. Most commercial operations would be using ROV's at that point.

Unless you're going for a world depth record, a 200M rating is beyond overkill.

Well, if I could find my G-Shocks with only 50M depth, I'd buy one, just so you could sleep at night, because it really concerns me that you are so worked up about it. As I said, it's just one more facet of my life I don't have to worry about. Short of a hammer blow directly to the crystal or an explosion. my watch is going to take anything I throw at it , and I've thrown a lot at them over the years, only ones that have broken were 2 where morons farked up the seals replacing the battery and one that had a blow directly to the crystal. Compare that to my phone which fell 8 inches and got a cracked screen.


A 200M rating doesn't mean you're cool to go diving with it to 200M, and a 50M rating doesn't mean it'll stand up to any and all rec diving. Those ratings are determined in perfectly controlled optimal conditions, not a real-world swim/snorkel/dive. If you're going to dive with it you want 200M and if you're going swimming you want at least 50M.
 
2013-02-12 04:23:08 AM  

Epicedion: I'd love to have a classy-ish phone notification on my wrist, since I miss about 90% of my text messages with the phone in my pocket. I never seem to notice the buzz.


That's why I drop mine down my tighty-whiteys.
 
2013-02-12 07:11:57 AM  

SnarfVader: Who wears a watch these days?


I wear one every day. I don't have one of those giant, gaudy ones. I wear a round face or a square face Citizen ecodrive. I feel naked if I don't have it on. I have a smart phone and I occasionally check it for the time, but I guess since I have worn a watch since the 90's I have trained myself to look at my wrist for the time...
 
2013-02-12 07:24:45 AM  

Trade Secret: SnarfVader: Who wears a watch these days?

I wear one every day. I don't have one of those giant, gaudy ones. I wear a round face or a square face Citizen ecodrive. I feel naked if I don't have it on. I have a smart phone and I occasionally check it for the time, but I guess since I have worn a watch since the 90's I have trained myself to look at my wrist for the time...


I stopped wearing one in the late 80's after catching it one too many times on the boat (sub) ladders. I broke the band and just put it in my pocket. After that I would carry a pocket watch (difficult to find but not impossible). When I started carrying a cell for work after the Navy, I abandon it altogether. I wasn't saying in my original comment that watches weren't useful, as some have taken it. I meant that I don't see many people wearing one these days. If that's what works for you, wear it.
 
2013-02-12 08:09:33 AM  

SnarfVader: Trade Secret: SnarfVader: Who wears a watch these days?
 If that's what works for you, wear it.


I see what you are saying. I think that more people wear them as jewelry and less as a time piece. I suppose it is like a belt versus suspenders for me. Suspenders may work better, but I have always worn a belt.

I could see going from a pocket watch to using your phone as a time piece, that isn't much of a stretch
 
2013-02-12 12:41:02 PM  

red5ish: crab66: fark watches.

red5ish: I do. Glancing at a wrist watch is faster and easier than dragging out a phone.


The extra 5 seconds is going to ruin my day!

James Bond wears a wrist watch.


If you want to make that sale, this thing had better come with a grappling hook and laser. I can do without the spinning faceplate blade from Live and Let Die though; that one seemed like an accident waiting to happen.
 
2013-02-12 07:47:53 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: A 200M rating doesn't mean you're cool to go diving with it to 200M, and a 50M rating doesn't mean it'll stand up to any and all rec diving. Those ratings are determined in perfectly controlled optimal conditions, not a real-world swim/snorkel/dive. If you're going to dive with it you want 200M and if you're going swimming you want at least 50M.


At least with underwater camera housings, this isn't the case. For shaits, I've taken a 40 meter case down a little past 50 meters. Both it, and the camera inside, survived and functioned properly beyond its rated crush depth. It seems that they over engineer by at least 20% to ensure they hold up to real world use.

www.underwaterdigitalcamera.org.uk
Although I'm not about to try the same thing with my Canon 5D mkii.

/PADI Divemaster & certified SDI enriched gas blender, with my own 32' dive boat & 10' tender
//getting my techrec ratings this summer (including 100 meter tri-mix) & Open Water Instruction certs
 
2013-02-12 09:24:04 PM  

MrSteve007: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: A 200M rating doesn't mean you're cool to go diving with it to 200M, and a 50M rating doesn't mean it'll stand up to any and all rec diving. Those ratings are determined in perfectly controlled optimal conditions, not a real-world swim/snorkel/dive. If you're going to dive with it you want 200M and if you're going swimming you want at least 50M.

At least with underwater camera housings, this isn't the case. For shaits, I've taken a 40 meter case down a little past 50 meters. Both it, and the camera inside, survived and functioned properly beyond its rated crush depth. It seems that they over engineer by at least 20% to ensure they hold up to real world use.

[www.underwaterdigitalcamera.org.uk image 500x500]
Although I'm not about to try the same thing with my Canon 5D mkii.

/PADI Divemaster & certified SDI enriched gas blender, with my own 32' dive boat & 10' tender
//getting my techrec ratings this summer (including 100 meter tri-mix) & Open Water Instruction certs



Yeah, I have one a lot like that, 40M. Hadn't thought of that. But I'm not sure the water-resistance guidelines for wristwatches apply to purpose-built underwater housings.

Anyway, this guy has it more or less how I understand it:  http://deloachwatchservice.com/other_stuff/water_resistancy.htm

/good luck on the IDC/IE
 
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