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2013-02-11 11:34:40 AM  
7 straight. Impressive
 
2013-02-11 11:35:55 AM  
I think the only reason you would hate LeBron is because you live in Cleveland and LeBron did what you'd like to do.
 
2013-02-11 11:39:04 AM  
FTA:

"[James] joined Adrian Dantley (1979) and Moses Malone (1982) as the only NBA players to score at least 30 and shoot at least 60 percent in five straight outings."

Can't believe no one has done it since 1982.
 
2013-02-11 11:40:49 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I think the only reason you would hate LeBron is because you live in Cleveland and LeBron did what you'd like to do.


I dislike LeBron as a fan of another team in conference, but I can't deny that is he is pretty damn good at the game.
 
2013-02-11 11:42:14 AM  
because I absolutely love this video

he is so farking talented.
 
2013-02-11 11:42:43 AM  
PEDs. That's the only explanation for how freakishly dominant he is.
 
2013-02-11 11:43:25 AM  

poughdrew: Rapmaster2000: I think the only reason you would hate LeBron is because you live in Cleveland and LeBron did what you'd like to do.

I dislike LeBron as a fan of another team in conference, but I can't deny that is he is pretty damn good at the game.


There's no denying Mr. James is good at his vocation.

There's also no denying that Mr. James jerked the city of Cleveland around like a dog on a chain while making his "decision".

There's also no denying ESPN helped orchestrate the whole thing, just so they could milk the ratings and the sweet, sweet Cavalier tears afterwards.
 
2013-02-11 11:43:55 AM  
Like any sports icon should do, he's winning people back with his play and not his mouth. I was pretty annoyed with "The Decision," but I'm over it. Dude can take his talents wherever he wants as long as he shuts up and play when he gets there.
 
2013-02-11 11:45:16 AM  

BobNesta420: PEDs. That's the only explanation for how freakishly dominant he is.


Same with Wilt, MJ, Russell, Big O, and Magic.

PEDS for the lot of them!
 
2013-02-11 11:50:13 AM  
I was pretty irritated by the Decision, but he's been pretty cool to the city of Miami.  Motherfarker rides in Critical Mass for crissakes.
 
2013-02-11 11:50:35 AM  
I'm probably late to the party but WTF is this sponsored link no comment bullshiat?
 
2013-02-11 11:52:01 AM  

CatfoodSpork: I was pretty irritated by the Decision, but he's been pretty cool to the city of Miami.  Motherfarker rides in Critical Mass for crissakes.


i've really come around on him lately, but fark the monthly temper tantrum called Critical Mass.

dude will go down as the best ever, even if he never gets to 6 rings.
 
2013-02-11 11:54:57 AM  

moistD: because I absolutely love this video

he is so farking talented.


Thanks! Forwarded to the wife who loves her some fundamentals.
 
2013-02-11 11:55:00 AM  

CatfoodSpork: I was pretty irritated by the Decision, but he's been pretty cool to the city of Miami.  Motherfarker rides in Critical Mass for crissakes.


I didn't like the Decision either, but the fact it raised $6 million for charity severely lessens the douche factor in my decision.
 
2013-02-11 11:55:42 AM  

redmid17: BobNesta420: PEDs. That's the only explanation for how freakishly dominant he is.

Same with Wilt, MJ, Russell, Big O, and Magic.

PEDS for the lot of them!


Almost certainly. PEDs for pretty much all the others, too. At least since the contract salaries ballooned. That which you do not test for is guaranteed to exist
 
2013-02-11 11:56:28 AM  

JohnBigBootay: I'm probably late to the party but WTF is this sponsored link no comment bullshiat?


New revenue stream. I was actually allowing ads on Fark until that popped up. If you're using Chrome, adblock will block those as well as ads.
 
2013-02-11 11:58:22 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I think the only reason you would hate LeBron is because you live in Cleveland and LeBron did what you'd like to do.


Favorite sports team aside, people dislike him because of "The Decision." And the fact that his apologies afterward, were all along the lines of "I'm sorry you're upset." Nothing he said ever gave the impression he was actually sorry. He was just saying words his publicist told him to say.

The best analogy I can think of is (and I know it's a fairly weak analogy) is Tracy and Jenna's character's on 30 Rock. Where they live in this world where they think they can do no wrong. Every moment of everyday is spent thinking about themselves and believing that everyone loves them as much as they love themselves.

People are turning around on LeBron because he's doing what he should have been doing for years: Shutting up and playing the game.
 
2013-02-11 11:58:39 AM  

This Looks Fun: moistD: because I absolutely love this video

he is so farking talented.

Thanks! Forwarded to the wife who loves her some fundamentals.


Better watch out when the Spurs come to town

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2013-02-11 11:58:39 AM  

JohnBigBootay: I'm probably late to the party but WTF is this sponsored link no comment bullshiat?


Yeah, what is that about?????
 
2013-02-11 12:00:24 PM  

Lost Thought 00: redmid17: BobNesta420: PEDs. That's the only explanation for how freakishly dominant he is.

Same with Wilt, MJ, Russell, Big O, and Magic.

PEDS for the lot of them!

Almost certainly. PEDs for pretty much all the others, too. At least since the contract salaries ballooned. That which you do not test for is guaranteed to exist


Clearly. PEDs have been rampant in the NBA for its entire existence...
 
2013-02-11 12:01:03 PM  

Lost Thought 00: redmid17: BobNesta420: PEDs. That's the only explanation for how freakishly dominant he is.

Same with Wilt, MJ, Russell, Big O, and Magic.

PEDS for the lot of them!

Almost certainly. PEDs for pretty much all the others, too. At least since the contract salaries ballooned. That which you do not test for is guaranteed to exist


Kobe admits to going to Germany for treatment every summer which is essentially blood doping.

Pretty sure LeBron uses HGH, but he is still extremely talented.  We'll see how many tendon issues he has later in his career
 
2013-02-11 12:01:20 PM  

redmid17: Lost Thought 00: redmid17: BobNesta420: PEDs. That's the only explanation for how freakishly dominant he is.

Same with Wilt, MJ, Russell, Big O, and Magic.

PEDS for the lot of them!

Almost certainly. PEDs for pretty much all the others, too. At least since the contract salaries ballooned. That which you do not test for is guaranteed to exist

Clearly. PEDs have been rampant in the NBA for its entire existence...


it's gotta be the shoes!
 
2013-02-11 12:04:24 PM  
This must be where all the LeBJ fanboys come to slobber on his nuts
 
2013-02-11 12:07:06 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Pretty sure LeBron uses HGH, but he is still extremely talented. We'll see how many tendon issues he has later in his career


Probably most of his competitors do too.  It's not as obvious as the NFL, but I think most of the NBA is on something.  I don't personally give a shiat.
 
2013-02-11 12:18:34 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Pretty sure LeBron uses HGH, but he is still extremely talented.


Pretty much. I think it's naive to deny that top-tier athletes in any sport use some sort of PEDs, but the drugs alone won't get you there; you still have to have the talent to make things work.

If there were an overnight elimination, in all sports, of PEDs by an act of god or something, people would start to biatch about "Scoring is down, defensive games aren't as interesting, we wanna see 80 yd TDs, monster dunks, and insane homers."

ESPN should do a fan poll along the lines of "Do you really care if your favorite athletes use PEDs?" I know we can't really "encourage" kids to do it, but they'll soon figure out if they go into sports, that it'll be the only way to remain competitive, since everyone else is doing it.
 
2013-02-11 12:21:06 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Pretty sure LeBron uses HGH


I'll bite. How does one become pretty sure someone uses HGH? What signs have you seen?
 
2013-02-11 12:27:19 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Kobe admits to going to Germany for treatment every summer which is essentially blood doping.


What do they add to his blood in the Orthokine treatments?
 
2013-02-11 12:32:15 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Lost Thought 00: redmid17: BobNesta420: PEDs. That's the only explanation for how freakishly dominant he is.

Same with Wilt, MJ, Russell, Big O, and Magic.

PEDS for the lot of them!

Almost certainly. PEDs for pretty much all the others, too. At least since the contract salaries ballooned. That which you do not test for is guaranteed to exist

Kobe admits to going to Germany for treatment every summer which is essentially blood doping.

Pretty sure LeBron uses HGH, but he is still extremely talented.  We'll see how many tendon issues he has later in his career


I feel like you don't know how doping works or don't know how the orthokine procedure works. Either way, saying Lebron is using HGH is pretty out there, and it wouldn't explain his dominance at every level. No one is going to give a 16 year old HGH unless they are a midget like Leo Messi (legit medical reasons) and frankly his body size has matured along a pretty reasonable arc, given he's always been a freak athlete. It wouldn't surprise me if NBA players used HGH to recover from injuries but it would surprise me for day to day usage. We'll see if your pet theory reveals anything if the NBA brings in HGH testing next season.
 
2013-02-11 12:33:31 PM  
LeBron's numbers put him in the Mt Rushmore discussion with Wilt and MJ.

If you just look at the all time PER seasons and Win share per 48 seasons, it's all Wilt, MJ, and LBJ (and some Kareem)

In fact the top 10 PER seasons are nothing but Wilt, MJ, and LBJ.
 
2013-02-11 12:39:43 PM  

JohnBigBootay: I'll bite. How does one become pretty sure someone uses HGH? What signs have you seen?


I'd say it has something to do with the 6'8" 260lb guy that can run a 4.5 40yd and has a 45in vertical.  They usually don't make humans that can do that.

He is just a freak of nature that has, pretty much, the perfect athletic body while also having stupid amounts of body control, eye hand coordination, and stamina that seems super-human when the rest of America is 5'9" 175 and can't run 40 yards at a full sprint without cramping up.

Now, I'm not saying he is on HGH, but it wouldn't surprise me if that came out. Same with Tiger Woods.
 
2013-02-11 12:39:50 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Champion of the Sun: Pretty sure LeBron uses HGH

I'll bite. How does one become pretty sure someone uses HGH? What signs have you seen?


The puffy face and the growth he had surgically removed from it?

LessO2: What do they add to his blood in the Orthokine treatments?


isn't it an increase in white blood cells to aid recovery of the knee tissue, essentially swapping out used, tired blood, for healthy blood.  Like what Lance Armstrong was doing?

redmid17: No one is going to give a 16 year old HGH


A kid a few years behind me in high school got arrested for selling it while a junior. No clue how he got it, but he had pill presses and a bunch of more traditional roids too.

I'm just curious how basketball players can keep up their physiques in the middle of a season.  Between practice, games, travel, sleep, and publicity, how do these guys stay so ripped?  They spend all their free time in a weight room?

You can be incredulous at the though of these guys doping, but with the money involved, it'd be pretty crazy not to dope.  Especially when they're not even tested for it.

Anyone notice how Dwight Howard isn't so buff this year?
 
2013-02-11 12:43:23 PM  

bulldg4life: I'd say it has something to do with the 6'8" 260lb guy that can run a 4.5 40yd and has a 45in vertical.  They usually don't make humans that can do that.


As a 6'4" 260lb non professional athlete who ran a 4.6 40yd and never took steroids, I'm getting a kick.

/no, I can't jump that high.  I'm white.
 
2013-02-11 12:43:41 PM  

Champion of the Sun: how do these guys stay so ripped?


Champion of the Sun: Between practice, games


Yes, how do these guys stay so ripped when they are running up and down a court 40 minutes every other night.

And, actually, yes...professional athletes do spend a huge amount of their free time working out or in a weight room. I know that many baseball players get to the stadium at 2/3 in the afternoon for a 7pm game. They go in to the weight room for 30-45m, run a bit, stretch, eat and all of this is before batting practice at 4:45. Some of the players will come in from a game, shower, work out a bit more, and eat before leaving, as well.
 
2013-02-11 12:45:38 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Anyone notice how Dwight Howard isn't so buff this year?


to be fair, he was pretty badly injured all of last year.  He probably wasn't able to bulk up before the season began, and with back strains you have to take pounds off in order to keep it healthy.  Those pounds off are sometimes muscle.
 
2013-02-11 12:48:18 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Anyone notice how Dwight Howard isn't so buff this year?


I'm shocked he hasn't been working out as much after major back surgery.
 
2013-02-11 12:49:38 PM  

bulldg4life: I'd say it has something to do with the 6'8" 260lb guy that can run a 4.5 40yd and has a 45in vertical. They usually don't make humans that can do that.


He's nuts for sure but to be fair there are plenty of guys who have lebron's body who can't shoot or handle the ball or pass like he does. He is a genetic freak but half the NBA is made up of genetic freaks. I say he gets half 'the difference' he has he gets from his brain.

Now, I'm not saying he is on HGH, but it wouldn't surprise me if that came out. Same with Tiger Woods.

There's not a rich athlete in the world that would 'surprise' me that they used hgh. But there's absolutely no reason I'd suspect it from Tiger over Jim Furyk or Fred Couples or Brent Snedeker.
 
2013-02-11 12:50:38 PM  

bulldg4life: Champion of the Sun: how do these guys stay so ripped?

Champion of the Sun: Between practice, games

Yes, how do these guys stay so ripped when they are running up and down a court 40 minutes every other night.

And, actually, yes...professional athletes do spend a huge amount of their free time working out or in a weight room. I know that many baseball players get to the stadium at 2/3 in the afternoon for a 7pm game. They go in to the weight room for 30-45m, run a bit, stretch, eat and all of this is before batting practice at 4:45. Some of the players will come in from a game, shower, work out a bit more, and eat before leaving, as well.


If you talk to any weight lifter or fitness model, their entire lives are dedicated to getting and maintaining their bodies.  Have to eat the exact right diet, lift weights in the exact right way, and do it every single day in a regimented manner.  They don't lift for 45 minutes and then play basketball and have every single muscle in their body be perfect.  That's just not the way it works.  If these guys came into the season looking that way, fine, I'd buy it.  You can't maintain a physique like that and keep a schedule that certain professional athletes do.  It's just not doable.  If it was big calves and upper body strength, yeah that flows from being a basketball player.  These dudes are shredded.  Pretty crazy to be able to maintain that physique, and undergo the rigors of the season without some help.
 
2013-02-11 12:51:04 PM  

Champion of the Sun: The puffy face and the growth he had surgically removed from it?


Well that settles it then. My dad had a growth removed from his face but he sucked at basketball.
 
2013-02-11 12:52:24 PM  

JohnBigBootay: There's not a rich athlete in the world that would 'surprise' me that they used hgh. But there's absolutely no reason I'd suspect it from Tiger over Jim Furyk or Fred Couples or Brent Snedeker.


Tiger was crazy ripped there for a few years before the 'incident'  Wouldn't be a crazy assumption coupled with his competitive streak.  Those guys don't have the same muscle tone he did.  But every body is somewhat different.
 
2013-02-11 12:52:41 PM  

Champion of the Sun: redmid17: No one is going to give a 16 year old HGH

A kid a few years behind me in high school got arrested for selling it while a junior. No clue how he got it, but he had pill presses and a bunch of more traditional roids too.

I'm just curious how basketball players can keep up their physiques in the middle of a season.  Between practice, games, travel, sleep, and publicity, how do these guys stay so ripped?  They spend all their free time in a weight room?

You can be incredulous at the though of these guys doping, but with the money involved, it'd be pretty crazy not to dope.  Especially when they're not even tested for it.

Anyone notice how Dwight Howard isn't so buff this year?



I know steroids exist in HS, but HGH isn't going to really do much to kids whose level of testosterone is so high it breaks the measuring tool. The body would go nuts. It can actually stunt a kid's growth.

The players still lift pretty much every day or most days of the week.  http://espn.go.com/trainingroom/s/fitness/index.html

And seriously, you're trotting out Dwight Howard as an example? The man who had invasive back surgery last April and still manages to look like this? That's from last week IIRC

sports.cbsimg.net
 
2013-02-11 12:54:37 PM  

Champion of the Sun: If you talk to any weight lifter or fitness model, their entire lives are dedicated to getting and maintaining their bodies. Have to eat the exact right diet, lift weights in the exact right way, and do it every single day in a regimented manner. They don't lift for 45 minutes and then play basketball and have every single muscle in their body be perfect. That's just not the way it works. If these guys came into the season looking that way, fine, I'd buy it. You can't maintain a physique like that and keep a schedule that certain professional athletes do. It's just not doable. If it was big calves and upper body strength, yeah that flows from being a basketball player. These dudes are shredded. Pretty crazy to be able to maintain that physique, and undergo the rigors of the season without some help.


1) 99% of professional athletes work that hard.  That's how they got to be professional athletes

2) NBA players aren't shredded like body builders where you can see every fiber.  They are in great shape, but so are tons of other athletes.
 
2013-02-11 12:54:39 PM  

Champion of the Sun: These dudes are shredded. Pretty crazy to be able to maintain that physique, and undergo the rigors of the season without some help.


Oh come on - it's mostly genetics. Hell I went to high school with a few dudes who looked like Michelangelo's David in the weight room and I assure you they'd never heard of steroids and they sure as hell couldn't get them. You'll get plenty tired during the long season but you still look fantastic. It ain't like being fatigued makes you all flabbly and shiat.
 
2013-02-11 12:55:20 PM  

redmid17: This Looks Fun: moistD: because I absolutely love this video

he is so farking talented.

Thanks! Forwarded to the wife who loves her some fundamentals.

Better watch out when the Spurs come to town

[cdn3.sbnation.com image 215x215]


Ha! Touche`. I'm not worried, though; we don't go to NBA games.
 
2013-02-11 12:57:14 PM  

Champion of the Sun: bulldg4life: Champion of the Sun: how do these guys stay so ripped?

Champion of the Sun: Between practice, games

Yes, how do these guys stay so ripped when they are running up and down a court 40 minutes every other night.

And, actually, yes...professional athletes do spend a huge amount of their free time working out or in a weight room. I know that many baseball players get to the stadium at 2/3 in the afternoon for a 7pm game. They go in to the weight room for 30-45m, run a bit, stretch, eat and all of this is before batting practice at 4:45. Some of the players will come in from a game, shower, work out a bit more, and eat before leaving, as well.

If you talk to any weight lifter or fitness model, their entire lives are dedicated to getting and maintaining their bodies.  Have to eat the exact right diet, lift weights in the exact right way, and do it every single day in a regimented manner.  They don't lift for 45 minutes and then play basketball and have every single muscle in their body be perfect.  That's just not the way it works.  If these guys came into the season looking that way, fine, I'd buy it.  You can't maintain a physique like that and keep a schedule that certain professional athletes do.  It's just not doable.  If it was big calves and upper body strength, yeah that flows from being a basketball player.  These dudes are shredded.  Pretty crazy to be able to maintain that physique, and undergo the rigors of the season without some help.


Yeah you can, especially if you have dietitians and team doctors available to you 24x7x365. You'll also notice that these guys are less "shredded" and more a "pro athlete with a low body fat percentage." Yeah there are a lot of huge dudes in the NBA, but they don't have Mr. Universe physiques. Seriously go find photos from last years Mr. Universe and compare them to NBA players. It's like the difference between NBA players and a typical farker.
 
2013-02-11 12:59:04 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Tiger was crazy ripped there for a few years before the 'incident' Wouldn't be a crazy assumption coupled with his competitive streak. Those guys don't have the same muscle tone he did. But every body is somewhat different.


He was certainly ripped. As would I be if I got up at 5 am and ran several miles before hitting the gym a fewe hundred or thousand times. Tiger's workouts are legendary and exhaustively documented. Those workouts and proper nutrition on a genetically lean frame will do that to virtually anyone in their 20's and low 30's. Pre-Tiger that level of total body fitness was unheard of on the PGA tour. That's how he changed the game.
 
2013-02-11 01:00:43 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Champion of the Sun: These dudes are shredded. Pretty crazy to be able to maintain that physique, and undergo the rigors of the season without some help.

Oh come on - it's mostly genetics. Hell I went to high school with a few dudes who looked like Michelangelo's David in the weight room and I assure you they'd never heard of steroids and they sure as hell couldn't get them. You'll get plenty tired during the long season but you still look fantastic. It ain't like being fatigued makes you all flabbly and shiat.


I'm not talking six pack abs here, and I'm not saying every player either.  But there are more than a few that are covered head to toe in rippling muscles.  Muscles whose names you can't pronounce and never realized even existed.  It's just my opinion so you ladies don't need to get all in a tizzy over it.

And the Dwight Howard thing was to show that when you're playing a full season, you don't have the time to hit the weight room and put on mass.  He missed his training window due to the back surgery.  He's a lot smaller this season because of it.  He hasn't added to his muscle mass all season.  Because you can't maintain or build that much muscle mass by casually lifting weights and playing basketball games.
 
2013-02-11 01:05:18 PM  

Champion of the Sun: I'm not talking six pack abs here, and I'm not saying every player either.  But there are more than a few that are covered head to toe in rippling muscles.  Muscles whose names you can't pronounce and never realized even existed.  It's just my opinion so you ladies don't need to get all in a tizzy over it.

And the Dwight Howard thing was to show that when you're playing a full season, you don't have the time to hit the weight room and put on mass.  He missed his training window due to the back surgery.  He's a lot smaller this season because of it.  He hasn't added to his muscle mass all season.  Because you can't maintain or build that much muscle mass by casually lifting weights and playing basketball games.


Have you ever done any training?  Seriously.  I'm not attacking you, but a lot of your posts just sound like ignorance.  Basketball players lose multiple lbs per game, and they'll lose fat everytime.  Everyone has a six pack, it just matters how much fat you have on top and how big you have made your six pack.
 
2013-02-11 01:05:35 PM  

Champion of the Sun: JohnBigBootay: Champion of the Sun: Pretty sure LeBron uses HGH

I'll bite. How does one become pretty sure someone uses HGH? What signs have you seen?

The puffy face and the growth he had surgically removed from it?

LessO2: What do they add to his blood in the Orthokine treatments?

isn't it an increase in white blood cells to aid recovery of the knee tissue, essentially swapping out used, tired blood, for healthy blood.  Like what Lance Armstrong was doing?

redmid17: No one is going to give a 16 year old HGH

A kid a few years behind me in high school got arrested for selling it while a junior. No clue how he got it, but he had pill presses and a bunch of more traditional roids too.

I'm just curious how basketball players can keep up their physiques in the middle of a season.  Between practice, games, travel, sleep, and publicity, how do these guys stay so ripped?  They spend all their free time in a weight room?

You can be incredulous at the though of these guys doping, but with the money involved, it'd be pretty crazy not to dope.  Especially when they're not even tested for it.

Anyone notice how Dwight Howard isn't so buff this year?


All I can say is wow. You posted this and you claim to know about sports? Impressive. Something so far off usually takes intent.
 
2013-02-11 01:10:18 PM  
If you guys could read the entirety of what I wrote instead of a few small snippets, that would be great.
 
2013-02-11 01:10:21 PM  

JohnBigBootay: But there's absolutely no reason I'd suspect it from Tiger over Jim Furyk or Fred Couples or Brent Snedeker.


Well, I think Tiger very obviously went through a dramatic shift in body type in his late 20s. Now, some of that is just plain growing up from the thin, 160lb kid from the mid-90s. But, there for a time, he looked almost deformed with massive shoulders/upper body and a stupidly small waist. Also, he went through a period of neck, ligament, achilles injuries that...from what I read...are tied to massive muscle build up due to steroids/HGH.

Also, of course, he was tied to that doctor (same as ARod) that got arrested bringing HGH in to America.
 
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