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2013-02-11 08:37:11 AM
I am taking steps right now to protect my gigs of porn. I suggest you all do the same.

You can never be too careful.
 
2013-02-11 08:37:34 AM
But what will protect us from the derpstorm?
 
2013-02-11 08:38:29 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-11 08:39:20 AM
Great.  Teabaggers with superpowers.  Just what we needed.
 
2013-02-11 08:53:46 AM
You know, it's not that far off from the actual science. Although, I think, the greater fear is that if such an event actually occurs, the solar storm would induce massive currents in the electrical lines around the world and that the current will blow out all the transformers within a region or within a country.
 
2013-02-11 08:55:43 AM
Anyone notice the banner at the top? WND Voted a most trustworthy news source of 2012.
 
2013-02-11 08:57:35 AM

RexTalionis: You know, it's not that far off from the actual science. Although, I think, the greater fear is that if such an event actually occurs, the solar storm would induce massive currents in the electrical lines around the world and that the current will blow out all the transformers within a region or within a country.


Perhaps.  But look at his book.

www.wnd.com

Guy's selling something.  And I doubt it's just fear.
 
2013-02-11 08:58:03 AM

RexTalionis: You know, it's not that far off from the actual science. Although, I think, the greater fear is that if such an event actually occurs, the solar storm would induce massive currents in the electrical lines around the world and that the current will blow out all the transformers within a region or within a country.


Panic and fear mongering. It would suck for a few months, but we'd still be able to get fark on our smartphones. The sportsteams would have to play outside. The power might be a bit iffy. It's not end of the world stuff.
 
2013-02-11 09:01:25 AM

Diogenes: Guy's selling something. And I doubt it's just fear.


The EMP thing has been popular in the GOP for ages. Remember when Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain both brought it up during the primaries? Newt's been on the EMP survivalism bandwagon since at least he was the Speaker of the House.

threadjackistan: Panic and fear mongering. It would suck for a few months, but we'd still be able to get fark on our smartphones. The sportsteams would have to play outside. The power might be a bit iffy. It's not end of the world stuff.


Let's assume that in a worst case scenario, a massive flare blows all the transformers in the country. How are you going to be using your cell phones when there's nothing to charge them and the cell towers only have reserve power for maybe a day (which we saw with Hurricane Sandy when the power outage knocked out cell towers all throughout the northeast).
 
2013-02-11 09:02:22 AM
All your Android smartphones would go down, but the Apple stuff would probably survive. Maybe. I really don't know, just a guess.
 
2013-02-11 09:07:54 AM
You'd think a professional writer would have at least some basic grasp of the structure and natural flow of the language from which he constructs his prose, yet, here we are....
 
2013-02-11 09:10:32 AM
And yet,when NASA begs for money to build and launch new solar observation sats, the conservatards deny them the funding. Afraid it might help prove global warming.
 
2013-02-11 09:15:18 AM
Do these people realize their site can just as easily be read as World Nut Daily to more accurately describe its contents, or is that really their little in-joke for those that might actually take it seriously?
 
2013-02-11 09:20:15 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I am taking steps right now to protect my giggitys of porn. I suggest you all do the same.

You can never be too careful.


FTFY
 
2013-02-11 09:20:49 AM
Obama is seen as being too liberal and he has taken away your rights on a few points where they are protected by the constitution, your right to be free from unreasonable search for example, which means that you would want ALL your rights taken away for someone to be `tough enough` or something yeah?

Pussies. Stop whining about how `liberals` are beating you and man up, shut up and DO something if it bothers you.
 
2013-02-11 09:21:21 AM
WND = Weapons of News Destruction.
 
2013-02-11 09:21:25 AM
If only this country would turn back to Jesus, none of this would be happening.

/DNRTFA, but wouldn't be surprised if the above was in it verbatim
 
2013-02-11 09:23:41 AM

dready zim: Obama is seen as being too liberal and he has taken away your rights on a few points where they are protected by the constitution, your right to be free from unreasonable search for example, which means that you would want ALL your rights taken away for someone to be `tough enough` or something yeah?

Pussies. Stop whining about how `liberals` are beating you and man up, shut up and DO something if it bothers you.


Wat?
 
2013-02-11 09:32:37 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: dready zim: Obama is seen as being too liberal and he has taken away your rights on a few points where they are protected by the constitution, your right to be free from unreasonable search for example, which means that you would want ALL your rights taken away for someone to be `tough enough` or something yeah?

Pussies. Stop whining about how `liberals` are beating you and man up, shut up and DO something if it bothers you.

Wat?


I think what he's trying to say is that conservatives like to paint the president as being "weak", but the president has done a number of things that have limited our Constitutional rights.  Therefore, in order for the president to be "strong", he would have to take away even more rights.

It would be sort of like the biggest guy on the football team calling cheerleaders "wimps", while sporting a shiner and a fat lip courtesy of the captain of the pep squad.
 
2013-02-11 09:34:21 AM
GPS was a $13 billion business in 2003 but is expected to increase to some $1 trillion by 2017.

How about that
 
2013-02-11 09:35:15 AM

threadjackistan: Panic and fear mongering. It would suck for a few months, but we'd still be able to get fark on our smartphones.


A repeat of the 1859 Carrington Event wouldn't just suck for a few months.  On any given day, it's extremely unlikely to happen.  Over a long enough period of time, though, it's inevitable.  And, as <B>Rex</b> said, smartphones aren't going to do a whole helluva lot when you don't have power to charge them, and the cell towers don't have power.

/solar chargers FTW
//I have two that I use for backpacking trips, but they're great during power outages
 
2013-02-11 09:37:19 AM
ANd they wonder why they get called retarded
 
2013-02-11 09:37:45 AM
Solar storms are no longer a concern. The new concern is stopping Juno from ruling the world.
 
2013-02-11 09:53:22 AM
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2013-02-11 09:53:36 AM
You guys think the article is bad, try reading the comments below it. Always good for a laugh/bout of depression.
 
2013-02-11 09:55:58 AM

Pick: All your Android smartphones would go down, but the Apple stuff would probably survive. Maybe. I really don't know, just a guess.


I suppose whether or not your iPhone survives depends on how you were holding it.
 
2013-02-11 09:59:48 AM

dready zim: Obama is seen as being too liberal and he has taken away your rights on a few points where they are protected by the constitution, your right to be free from unreasonable search for example, which means that you would want ALL your rights taken away for someone to be `tough enough` or something yeah?

Pussies. Stop whining about how `liberals` are beating you and man up, shut up and DO something if it bothers you.


Are you lost?
 
2013-02-11 10:03:29 AM
Who cares about a solar flare? WHAT ABOUT THE GIANT SPACE GOAT???!?

/42
//low-hanging fruit
///too obvious
 
2013-02-11 10:04:26 AM

cretinbob: ANd they wonder why they get called retarded


To be fair, although poorly written, overlong and obviously put to print only to sell the book behind it, at least this article is rooted in basic fact. That's a pretty significant rarity for WND and most other conservative "media".

Maybe instead of reflexively bashing them we should be encouraging the fact that they shiat on the papers this time instead of digging out our nice loafers to do their business.
 
2013-02-11 10:05:14 AM
For a WND article there is a surprisingly small amount of derp here, and really all that is contained in the bit of fearmongering. The headline is actually the worst part of the entire article, as ACE (which has plasma sensing equipment, and thus measures in situ, or at its position between the Earth and the Sun near the L1 Lagrange Point) is not our only early warning system. The combination of the STEREO sats and the SDO sat gives us 360 degree views of the sun (which has optical sensing equipment, and thus is a remote sensing spacecraft), and allow us to keep track of sunspots and coronal mass ejections all around the sun. As far as I'm aware, every CME that has been detected at ACE as Earth crossing in the last 2 years (not many, since we are still coming out of solar minimum) was seen by at least 1 of the these 3 satellites as it was leaving the sun. This gives us much more warning time than simply 15 minutes. Even at the fastest solar wind velocity ever recorded (around 2,000 km/s during the Halloween storm in 2003, measured by the SWICS instrument aboard ACE) that still gives us 20 hours advanced notice. At the more commonly detected speeds, its closer to a day and a half.

As far as the effects of these storms, they are actually quite realistic. The 2003 Halloween storm was extremely powerful, and the storm lead to the compete loss of something like 20 satellites and the damaging of another 10 with a value of loss in the billions. In addition, there was geomagnetically induced currents from the storm related plasma enhancement in the magnetosphere that lead to dozens of transformer failures within the US. And while the Halloween storm was the largest storm measured by space based instruments, we believe that the Carrington event was still somewhere between 2 and 10 times more powerful, based on ground based measurements at the time. The storm was so powerful, the ground current allowed telegraph lines to operate without batteries for days, at much higher signal strengths than they could normally. The amount of energy dumped into our electrical grid during a storm of this magnitude could easily destroy 3/4 of our transformers in a day, and more primitive power systems could see complete failure. That's not a loss you can simply fix in a few weeks. That is also ignoring the damage to our satellite infrastructure, which could take years to recover.

The problem is we don't know how often these events occur. We have had reliable and consistent space data for only around 20 years, 60 years of any sort of space based data, and maybe 180 years of ground based magnetometer measurements. In that time, we've had maybe 3 events as strong or stronger than the Halloween storm. We have no idea how common these events are, and we have no reliable way of telling specifically what might happen on the sun more than a few days out. The next big storm could hit in a month or 80 years. I think most scientists aren't trying to fear monger by noting the possibly of these storms, they just want these things to be considered as we update our infrastructure and when congress talks about cutting the money they need to do their jobs of studying this stuff. Maybe WND having a sudden interest in space physics will finally lead to them to not be dicks about science and education funding in this country, but I think that's wishful thinking at best.
 
2013-02-11 10:05:34 AM
Does GeneralJim know about this?
 
2013-02-11 10:13:18 AM
The poll at the bottom:

IS U.S. GOVERNMENT ADEQUATELY PREPARING FOR THREAT OF DEVASTATING EMP ATTACK
Yes, any more preparation would be provocative and invite attack


We can't launch any more solar observatories, because we'll tip our hand early to those space monsters.
 
2013-02-11 10:40:02 AM

Any Pie Left: And yet,when NASA begs for money to build and launch new solar observation sats, the conservatards deny them the funding. Afraid it might help prove global warming.


You forget that NASA is full of muslims, atheists, lesbians, liberals and people who blindly accept Satanist propaganda about the earth being "billions of years old".

Why give money to people like that, if you're a conservative? Especially when Andy Schlafly's Conservapedia needs more funding!
 
2013-02-11 10:49:57 AM

Arkanaut: But what will protect us from the derpstorm?


Jesus.
 
2013-02-11 10:52:33 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Why give money to people like that, if you're a conservative? Especially when Andy Schlafly's Conservapedia needs more funding!


We should give it to the creation museum instead so they can research the dinosaurs' tactics for surviving threats from outer space.

/ now I'm curious... how do they explain away the fact that there are no more dinosaurs if they think they lived with humans a few thousand years ago and don't evolve?
 
2013-02-11 10:59:42 AM

br0g: You guys think the article is bad, try reading the comments below it. Always good for a laugh/bout of depression.


Sample TFA comment: THIS IS ANNOTHER O'BERRI-CRISIS FOR US to cry "po' me" about! The PROGS and FABIAN SOCIALLISTS want it sooo bad to have KING-BARRI declare a NATIONAL EMERGENCY to shut-down our govt and declare hisself KING(temporrarrily....of course). Need this to "deem-passed" the NewWorldOrder-TREATIES!...which HE will be "forced" to sign...!!


I'm halfway to believing that this might be a Farker trolling the WND comments.

\only halfway though
 
2013-02-11 11:11:07 AM

CheekyMonkey: br0g: You guys think the article is bad, try reading the comments below it. Always good for a laugh/bout of depression.

Sample TFA comment: THIS IS ANNOTHER O'BERRI-CRISIS FOR US to cry "po' me" about! The PROGS and FABIAN SOCIALLISTS want it sooo bad to have KING-BARRI declare a NATIONAL EMERGENCY to shut-down our govt and declare hisself KING(temporrarrily....of course). Need this to "deem-passed" the NewWorldOrder-TREATIES!...which HE will be "forced" to sign...!!


I'm halfway to believing that this might be a Farker trolling the WND comments.

\only halfway though


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-11 11:20:49 AM
DAMN YOU, SPACEBAMA!!!
 
2013-02-11 11:24:47 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Why give money to people like that, if you're a conservative? Especially when Andy Schlafly's Conservapedia needs more funding!

We should give it to the creation museum instead so they can research the dinosaurs' tactics for surviving threats from outer space.

/ now I'm curious... how do they explain away the fact that there are no more dinosaurs if they think they lived with humans a few thousand years ago and don't evolve?


Not a fundie nor play one on TV, but I'd guess the idea would be that the dinosaurs were killed off in the Flood.

The Flood after all was meant to kill the "giants who lived among human men", and maybe fundies substitute dinosaurs to sanitize the Nephilim-were-having-sex-with-our-Jewish-women aspect of the story. Thus Yahweh killed the dinosaurs cos... he... didn't... like them anymore? Or... something?

Of course the seaborne dinosaurs would have survived, thus fundies are all worked up about how the Loch Ness monster exists and stuff.

Anyway, it's unimportant cos you should be worshipping Jebus.

This seems to fit with what Conservapedia says on the topic anyway.
 
2013-02-11 11:52:11 AM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Vegan Meat Popsicle: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Why give money to people like that, if you're a conservative? Especially when Andy Schlafly's Conservapedia needs more funding!

We should give it to the creation museum instead so they can research the dinosaurs' tactics for surviving threats from outer space.

/ now I'm curious... how do they explain away the fact that there are no more dinosaurs if they think they lived with humans a few thousand years ago and don't evolve?

Not a fundie nor play one on TV, but I'd guess the idea would be that the dinosaurs were killed off in the Flood.

The Flood after all was meant to kill the "giants who lived among human men", and maybe fundies substitute dinosaurs to sanitize the Nephilim-were-having-sex-with-our-Jewish-women aspect of the story. Thus Yahweh killed the dinosaurs cos... he... didn't... like them anymore? Or... something?

Of course the seaborne dinosaurs would have survived, thus fundies are all worked up about how the Loch Ness monster exists and stuff.

Anyway, it's unimportant cos you should be worshipping Jebus.

This seems to fit with what Conservapedia says on the topic anyway.


No, some of the dinosaurs survived on Noah's ark, but the flood changed the atmosphere so that the dinosaurs couldn't breath properly. Then they got hunted to extinction by Appalachian hillbillies. See Jack Chick's informative tract "There Goes The Dinosaurs".
 
2013-02-11 12:06:36 PM

offmymeds: DAMN YOU, SPACEBAMA!!!


GIS for Spacebama

www.funnytimes.com
I don't get it.
 
2013-02-11 12:16:43 PM
img10.imageshack.us

Troy McClure, "Just ask this scientician"

Scientician, "Uh ..."

Troy McClure , "He'll tell you that the World Net Daily is a premiere scientific publication. It is respected the world over for its in-depth, well-researched, and objective reporting."
 
2013-02-11 12:21:24 PM

Richard C Stanford: No, some of the dinosaurs survived on Noah's ark, but the flood changed the atmosphere so that the dinosaurs couldn't breath properly. Then they got hunted to extinction by Appalachian hillbillies. See Jack Chick's informative tract "There Goes The Dinosaurs".


Ah. See, yet another illustration of the differences between various Christian belief systems. If only there was some sort of "method", y'know, that they could use to objectively compare, debate and correct their theories until they arrived at a consensus. Maybe something, aw I dunno... "evidence-based".
 
2013-02-11 12:34:01 PM
I was half expecting to see an ad extolling the "one weird trick to save your remote control from the EMP storm"
 
2013-02-11 12:40:24 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I am taking steps right now to protect my gigs of porn. I suggest you all do the same.

You can never be too careful.


I'm wrapping my smartphone & PC in aluminum foil right now.
 
2013-02-11 01:38:34 PM
"obummer is punishment from God for the sins of this world and mostly for the USA for kicking Him out of our schools, abortion, gay marrage etc. "

Oh, WND.
 
2013-02-11 01:55:25 PM

Diogenes: RexTalionis: You know, it's not that far off from the actual science. Although, I think, the greater fear is that if such an event actually occurs, the solar storm would induce massive currents in the electrical lines around the world and that the current will blow out all the transformers within a region or within a country.

Perhaps.  But look at his book.

[www.wnd.com image 190x285]

Guy's selling something.  And I doubt it's just fear.


Are you suggesting the author of TFA is merely writing a hype article in order to sell a book?  The hell you say!!

www.simonandschuster.com
 
2013-02-11 02:19:50 PM
You could ask these chucklefarks what DAY it is and you'd get the same answer: "LIEBERAL MEDIA!!!"

And yes, they'd emphasize LIE, cause they'd assume it'd just go STRAIGHT over your head otherwise.

WaitWhatWhy: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x320]


HAAAAAAAAH!! That is absolutely one of the best demotivational memes I've ever seen.

/probably old
//never saw it before
 
2013-02-11 03:14:02 PM
TFA:  "...becoming alarmed ... have been expressing concern..."

Well, which is it? I guess "alarmed" generates the page views.
 
2013-02-11 03:25:47 PM
Something Awful's been trolling the Tea Party Community for two weeks now. The amount of Climate Change being blamed on "liberals" is amazing. These people live in such a protected little bubble they need to delineate everything in terms of political loyalty rather than scientific debate. Then again, if you have the balls, go look at the "Teatard Alternative to Facebook" for an example of what an echo chamber really does look like.
 
2013-02-11 04:21:24 PM

Rapmaster2000: offmymeds: DAMN YOU, SPACEBAMA!!!

GIS for Spacebama

[www.funnytimes.com image 768x330]
I don't get it.


It's humor Republicans tell themselves to make themselves feel better.
 
2013-02-11 08:02:56 PM

LavenderWolf: "obummer is punishment from God for the sins of this world and mostly for the USA for kicking Him out of our schools, abortion, gay marrage etc. "

Oh, WND.


So by refusing to vote for him, or support his policies, you're thwarting God's will.

somehowidontthinkyouthoughtthiscunningplanallthewaythrough.jpg
 
2013-02-12 02:02:24 AM

Dog Welder: Rapmaster2000: offmymeds: DAMN YOU, SPACEBAMA!!!

GIS for Spacebama

[www.funnytimes.com image 768x330]
I don't get it.

It's humor Republicans tell themselves to make themselves feel better.


Actually, I don't think this guy is a Republican. Funnytimes.com has a cut-n-paste cartoon generator, and "Elephantman's" contributions seem to be generally Democratic leaning, though also showing signs of significant drug use.
 
2013-02-12 07:04:17 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Why give money to people like that, if you're a conservative? Especially when Andy Schlafly's Conservapedia needs more funding!

We should give it to the creation museum instead so they can research the dinosaurs' tactics for surviving threats from outer space.

/ now I'm curious... how do they explain away the fact that there are no more dinosaurs if they think they lived with humans a few thousand years ago and don't evolve?


I have an uncle who believes that dinosaurs never existed, and that God created the earth with the bones already there. You know, to trick us.
 
2013-02-12 09:19:17 AM

Rapmaster2000: GIS for Spacebama


I wonder if that's the infamous ElephantMan Teatard who stunk up Fark for a while and I believe still gets massive hits trolling Salon.com.
 
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