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2013-02-11 10:00:11 AM  

dready zim: CapeFearCadaver: Rincewind53: Certainly true for some people, but the idea that men are only friends with women because they want to get into their pants is utter hogwash. Hogwash, I say.

My best friend is a woman, and the thought of having sex with her is like the thought of having sex with a sister. No. Thanks.

The majority of my friends are guys. We've known each other going on 23 now, all met as pre-teens. And as I do realize that each and every one of them at some point during that 23 years has wanted something more, it never happened; and everyone... you know, grew up. Since we did grow up together and became adults together we're all family. That same thought they had as teenagers would revolt them as incestuous now.

This is how women think. Guys know however that if it was offered they would hit it like the fist of an angry god simply because at one point they wanted to and that NEVER goes away until about 3 seconds afterward. Guys learn to say "Oh, I would never do that now, I think of you as a sister" because you would not accept any other answer and they have to say that if they hold a chance of keeping you as a friend and then over time getting into your pants.


I think their wives might have a problem with that....
 
2013-02-11 10:00:49 AM  

Insaniteus: This study proved zilch other than the fact that men ADMIT to more on surveys.


Like the various studies where straight men claim more sexual partners than women. Yup.
 
2013-02-11 10:02:42 AM  

miss diminutive: biyaaatci: but for the most part, we've been honest about this kind of thing and decided that to pursue anything would be a remarkably bad idea and has the potential to ruin a bunch of innocent lives.

Are these women from the future or a parallel universe that would cause some kind of cascade through space-time if you dated?


Yes.
 
2013-02-11 10:04:24 AM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Heteronormative study is heteronormative.


That was an amazingly derptastic statement.
 
2013-02-11 10:05:02 AM  

eyeq360: Do the steps of a church count as exotic?


Is that you Pope Benedict? Is this why you're resigning?

/the fact that it's posted in the wrong thread supports my theory
 
2013-02-11 10:05:42 AM  

dready zim: CapeFearCadaver: Rincewind53: Certainly true for some people, but the idea that men are only friends with women because they want to get into their pants is utter hogwash. Hogwash, I say.

My best friend is a woman, and the thought of having sex with her is like the thought of having sex with a sister. No. Thanks.

The majority of my friends are guys. We've known each other going on 23 now, all met as pre-teens. And as I do realize that each and every one of them at some point during that 23 years has wanted something more, it never happened; and everyone... you know, grew up. Since we did grow up together and became adults together we're all family. That same thought they had as teenagers would revolt them as incestuous now.

This is how women think. Guys know however that if it was offered they would hit it like the fist of an angry god simply because at one point they wanted to and that NEVER goes away until about 3 seconds afterward. Guys learn to say "Oh, I would never do that now, I think of you as a sister" because you would not accept any other answer and they have to say that if they hold a chance of keeping you as a friend and then over time getting into your pants.


Hate to say it but dready zim's 100% correct.
 
2013-02-11 10:05:59 AM  
I don't understand the "it would be having sex with my sister" line. She was, at one point, either farkable or not farkable. I've had girl space friends for years who still fall into those categories, and barring any major changes in appearance (weight gain or weight loss, primarily) they tend to stay in the same category they were in the beginning. Sure, there are many other reasons not to do it - like the guy above ripping a hole in the space-time continuum and ending countless innocent lives - but the "Yeah, I'd fark you" thought never really goes away.
 
2013-02-11 10:06:50 AM  

miss diminutive: The authors of the research, from the University of Wisconsin, said films and television programmes had helped instill the idea that normal friends could become "friends with benefits" - that is, who have sex with each other.

Is there a single person left on the planet who really needs an explanation of the term "friends with benefits"?


Friends with free drugs? Unemployed people on the dole?

Mid_mo_mad_man: Men who say they don't want to fark their gal pals are lairs. Just like every man has wanked off to every hot gal he knows.


Some of my closest female friends are models or porn stars. If what you say was true then I wouldn't have time to get anything done...

Although.... A close friend of mine is now recently single and I have started to think about the dirty things I would do to her... Even the wife has thought about it...

/Off for a cold shower.
 
2013-02-11 10:07:34 AM  
Nonsense. I have what... 5 female friends. They're like family and I would be horrified at the thought. A stranger pointed out that one good friend and I "made a good couple" and I felt physically ill at the thought. Yes, she's attractive but whatever attraction I might have had is totally subverted by the friendship.

I can't fully describe human attractions and friendships, because I'm no expert, but there's definitely a category where friends are just friends and will never be anything else, because the attraction aspect has been short circuited by a bond that approaches too close to the 'family' dynamic.
 
2013-02-11 10:09:18 AM  

Ikahoshi: I can't fully describe human attractions and friendships, because I'm no expert, but there's definitely a category where friends are just friends and will never be anything else, because the attraction aspect has been short circuited by a bond that approaches too close to the 'family' dynamic.


Family first.

-O. Rex
 
2013-02-11 10:11:02 AM  

doglover: Family first.


Heh heh. Whenever I have had the thought of dating one of our friends my best friend (yes, a guy) always smirks and says: Family First!
 
2013-02-11 10:11:06 AM  
This has always been a predicament for me. I have always enjoyed male company, and hated any form of male flirting or suggestion of sexual attraction. For me to find male friends has been hard, but not entirely fruitless.

One can argue that for s guy, flirting or sexual attraction towards a woman is as natural as breathing so what is the big deal.

For me is is simply unpleasant, uncomfortable and forces me to extinguish friendships.

Thankfully there are exceptions and thanks also to biology as I get older, it's less likely that I gather the unwanted sort of male attention.

It's not a bad thing that men are the way they are, as a species our survival depends of reproduction and genetic diversity after all. What is too bad is that though we posses such a high level of sentience and capacity for free will, we are still so heavily and willingly influenced by biological urges with regard to both genders.
 
2013-02-11 10:12:00 AM  

Freakin Rican: has anyone said no FARKING DUH!! yet?


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2013-02-11 10:12:44 AM  

Ikahoshi: Nonsense. I have what... 5 female friends. They're like family and I would be horrified at the thought. A stranger pointed out that one good friend and I "made a good couple" and I felt physically ill at the thought. Yes, she's attractive but whatever attraction I might have had is totally subverted by the friendship.

I can't fully describe human attractions and friendships, because I'm no expert, but there's definitely a category where friends are just friends and will never be anything else, because the attraction aspect has been short circuited by a bond that approaches too close to the 'family' dynamic.


I'd bet a million bucks you're a few Jäger bombs and a crotch rub away from much more than "friends" with your gal pals.
 
2013-02-11 10:12:52 AM  

weapon13: miss diminutive: The authors of the research, from the University of Wisconsin, said films and television programmes had helped instill the idea that normal friends could become "friends with benefits" - that is, who have sex with each other.

Is there a single person left on the planet who really needs an explanation of the term "friends with benefits"?

Friends with free drugs? Unemployed people on the dole?


Friends with breasts and all the rest
 
2013-02-11 10:13:50 AM  

Sticky Hands: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: miss diminutive: The authors of the research, from the University of Wisconsin, said films and television programmes had helped instill the idea that normal friends could become "friends with benefits" - that is, who have sex with each other.

Is there a single person left on the planet who really needs an explanation of the term "friends with benefits"?

What, like a friend who comes with dental and vision? Kids are into weird stuff these days.

yeah I prefer mine blind with no teeth.


I can clearly see that your taste in women sucks
 
2013-02-11 10:15:07 AM  
You can be friends with someone and acknowledge that there is a sexual attraction. That's O.K.

If you're friends with someone just because you're just trying to pull the Nice Guy/Girl backdoor gambit, then that's not O.K.
 
2013-02-11 10:15:39 AM  

LewDux: weapon13: miss diminutive: The authors of the research, from the University of Wisconsin, said films and television programmes had helped instill the idea that normal friends could become "friends with benefits" - that is, who have sex with each other.

Is there a single person left on the planet who really needs an explanation of the term "friends with benefits"?

Friends with free drugs? Unemployed people on the dole?

Friends with breasts and all the rest


A friend in need is a friend indeed.
 
2013-02-11 10:17:47 AM  

miss diminutive: The authors of the research, from the University of Wisconsin, said films and television programmes had helped instill the idea that normal friends could become "friends with benefits" - that is, who have sex with each other.

Is there a single person left on the planet who really needs an explanation of the term "friends with benefits"?


Wait, it doesn't mean a friend who's on welfare?

Wow, that explains the weird look she gave me when I offered her my couch to crash on.
 
2013-02-11 10:18:38 AM  
CapeFearCadaver:

The majority of my friends are guys. We've known each other going on 23 now, all met as pre-teens. And as I do realize that each and every one of them at some point during that 23 years has wanted something more, it never happened; and everyone... you know, grew up. Since we did grow up together and became adults together we're all family. That same thought they had as teenagers would revolt them as incestuous now.

no, they still want you.  they're just increasingly resigned to the fact that it can't happen.
 
2013-02-11 10:18:40 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Rincewind53: Certainly true for some people, but the idea that men are only friends with women because they want to get into their pants is utter hogwash. Hogwash, I say.

My best friend is a woman, and the thought of having sex with her is like the thought of having sex with a sister. No. Thanks.

The majority of my friends are guys. We've known each other going on 23 now, all met as pre-teens. And as I do realize that each and every one of them at some point during that 23 years has wanted something more, it never happened; and everyone... you know, grew up. Since we did grow up together and became adults together we're all family. That same thought they had as teenagers would revolt them as incestuous now.


I like how women say men "grew up" when they stopped wanting sex out of a relationship. Because wanting sex is such a childish thing, and not wanting sex is so adult.
 
2013-02-11 10:18:55 AM  

CapeFearCadaver: Rincewind53: Certainly true for some people, but the idea that men are only friends with women because they want to get into their pants is utter hogwash. Hogwash, I say.

My best friend is a woman, and the thought of having sex with her is like the thought of having sex with a sister. No. Thanks.

The majority of my friends are guys. We've known each other going on 23 now, all met as pre-teens. And as I do realize that each and every one of them at some point during that 23 years has wanted something more, it never happened; and everyone... you know, grew up. Since we did grow up together and became adults together we're all family. That same thought they had as teenagers would revolt them as incestuous now.

Some guys are into incest porn....just so you know.

 
2013-02-11 10:19:00 AM  

miss diminutive: Insaniteus: This study proved zilch other than the fact that men ADMIT to more on surveys.  My best chick friend has a tendency to deny up one side and down the other that she has any interest in Guy X, right up until she's single and seeking him out, at which point she'll go on and on about how she's been wanting to be with him since they first met.

Women are just more used to hiding their true intentions.  We need a study like this that actually measures arousal levels in the brain to see if women truly are so different from men in this regard.

I don't think we're all that different, really. I think the main difference I've noticed is that women (myself included) simply won't put up with being in the "friend zone" for as long men will. If I'm interested in a guy and we become friends I eventually move on and set my sights on someone else if things don't progress after a certain amount of time. On the other hand, I know guys who'll be friends with a woman they want for years and years even though it's been made pretty clear that she has no interest in pursuing a romantic relationship.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-11 10:19:11 AM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: ranold: Rincewind53: Certainly true for some people, but the idea that men are only friends with women because they want to get into their pants is utter hogwash. Hogwash, I say.

My best friend is a woman, and the thought of having sex with her is like the thought of having sex with a sister. No. Thanks.

You're gay.

Hey, now.  She could be fat.


Or he might be from West Virginia.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:18 AM  

meanmutton: Well, here's the thing -- either the women are unattractive, in which case I wouldn't want to have sex with them, or they're attractive, in which case they wouldn't want to have sex with me.


And that sums it up nicely.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:43 AM  
I'm a guy who typically has female friends. I don't fantasize about having sex with them, but if they asked me to have sex, I'd say yes. If you're fairly attractive and you offer sex to a man, he says yes. Always.

But I'm not pursuing friendship for that. That's not going to happen, and it's unrealistic. They are friends who don't judge me for not being hypermasculine (monster trucks, beer, football, ungh) and can talk about philosophy and things. Where I live, finding a thinking man to befriend is rather difficult, because it's a working class town full of people who aren't interested in reading.
 
2013-02-11 10:21:57 AM  

miss diminutive: LewDux: weapon13: miss diminutive: The authors of the research, from the University of Wisconsin, said films and television programmes had helped instill the idea that normal friends could become "friends with benefits" - that is, who have sex with each other.

Is there a single person left on the planet who really needs an explanation of the term "friends with benefits"?

Friends with free drugs? Unemployed people on the dole?

Friends with breasts and all the rest

A friend in need is a friend indeed.


A friend with weed is better.


Oh, and this:

alwaysjaded: You can be friends with someone and acknowledge that there is a sexual attraction. That's O.K.

If you're friends with someone just because you're just trying to pull the Nice Guy/Girl backdoor gambit, then that's not O.K.



... is spot on and reflects exactly how I feel about it. Wanting to get physical with a female friend is basic evolutionary behaviour. Not acting upon that due to various conditions, such as already being in a relationship, is plain ol' maturity.
 
2013-02-11 10:22:09 AM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I don't understand the "it would be having sex with my sister" line. She was, at one point, either farkable or not farkable. I've had girl space friends for years who still fall into those categories, and barring any major changes in appearance (weight gain or weight loss, primarily) they tend to stay in the same category they were in the beginning. Sure, there are many other reasons not to do it - like the guy above ripping a hole in the space-time continuum and ending countless innocent lives - but the "Yeah, I'd fark you" thought never really goes away.


True. Circumstances change though. When you've been friends for decades or more, it's more an issue of the sex just not being worth screwing up other things. Even if you're both single, taking it that step further generally leads in one of two directions. Either it leads towards a relationship, which if all you want is sex, is not a good option, or it leads to awkwardness and generally the loss of the friendship. There is no such thing as NSA sex with friends.
 
2013-02-11 10:22:24 AM  

Ikahoshi: Nonsense. I have what... 5 female friends. They're like family and I would be horrified at the thought. A stranger pointed out that one good friend and I "made a good couple" and I felt physically ill at the thought. Yes, she's attractive but whatever attraction I might have had is totally subverted by the friendship.

I can't fully describe human attractions and friendships, because I'm no expert, but there's definitely a category where friends are just friends and will never be anything else, because the attraction aspect has been short circuited by a bond that approaches too close to the 'family' dynamic.


yeah that category is "ugly".
 
2013-02-11 10:23:27 AM  
I reckon it depends on how/when etc., the friendship started & you can always tell if one party is hoping for the friendship to come with added extras.  As long as everyone knows that's either not going to happen or maybe, don't see the harm or why this is worthy of study.

Of course, at my stage, I'd be flattered if a guy wanted benefits from a friendship.
 
2013-02-11 10:28:17 AM  

Snarfangel: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: ranold: Rincewind53: Certainly true for some people, but the idea that men are only friends with women because they want to get into their pants is utter hogwash. Hogwash, I say.

My best friend is a woman, and the thought of having sex with her is like the thought of having sex with a sister. No. Thanks.

You're gay.

Hey, now.  She could be fat.

Or he might be from West Virginia.


Redundant.
 
2013-02-11 10:31:28 AM  
I have female friends because there's nothing I like more than listening to hours of manufactured drama with no possibility of sex afterwards.
 
2013-02-11 10:32:03 AM  

ChaoticLimbs: I'm a guy who typically has female friends. I don't fantasize about having sex with them, but if they asked me to have sex, I'd say yes. If you're fairly attractive and you offer sex to a man, he says yes. Always.

But I'm not pursuing friendship for that. That's not going to happen, and it's unrealistic. They are friends who don't judge me for not being hypermasculine (monster trucks, beer, football, ungh) and can talk about philosophy and things. Where I live, finding a thinking man to befriend is rather difficult, because it's a working class town full of people who aren't interested in reading.


Just between us guys, all that girl talk makes you want to blow your brains out sometimes, right? Love my female friends to death, but it gets exhausting after a certain point. There you are, paddling nicely along in your sanity canoe... and then you're flipped over, holding onto a rock as a torrent of half-finished thought, jumbled introspection, and approval seeking bash your head over and over again under the water.

/I don't think the male brain is wired to handle what every woman did in a sixty mile radius every minute of every day...
 
2013-02-11 10:33:29 AM  

doglover: You can't be "best" friends unless you can fark. Sometimes life just calls for a good romp in the hay.

You can be dear, close, or even best with an asterisk but you can't really be the best of friends until fluids are exchanged.


See, this is what I keep telling my male friends, but they keep claiming that they're straight. I don't get it...
 
2013-02-11 10:34:08 AM  

Christian Bale: CapeFearCadaver: Rincewind53: Certainly true for some people, but the idea that men are only friends with women because they want to get into their pants is utter hogwash. Hogwash, I say.

My best friend is a woman, and the thought of having sex with her is like the thought of having sex with a sister. No. Thanks.

The majority of my friends are guys. We've known each other going on 23 now, all met as pre-teens. And as I do realize that each and every one of them at some point during that 23 years has wanted something more, it never happened; and everyone... you know, grew up. Since we did grow up together and became adults together we're all family. That same thought they had as teenagers would revolt them as incestuous now.

I like how women say men "grew up" when they stopped wanting sex out of a relationship. Because wanting sex is such a childish thing, and not wanting sex is so adult.


I was stating that we grew up together. Like from being 11 years old to 34 years old. In the purest form of growing up, considering we were children when we first met.

Anyways, they all have their hot wives to fark.
 
2013-02-11 10:37:52 AM  
If you are male, and you want to scare a female friend, tell her that your friendship is, at least on your end, driven by attraction. This method works every time. It's especially effective with longstanding friendships.

There are no doubt some men, especially younger men, for whom friendships with women are primarily driven by attraction. This is creepy.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:47 AM  
Ladies :

Unless you've known your friends since you were less than ,say, eight (see :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect ) Then yes, he wants to have sex with you.

Once you've had sex together he may no longer be interested, but he certainly wants it.

http://www.laddertheory.com/

and if you say you have 'lots of male friends' who don't want to sleep with you, then you're either ugly or a cocktease.

Think about it this way: How much of your restraint (how often you change partners, how soon a new partner gets to the cookie) is based on considerations like pregnancy, disease or even menstrual behavioral patterns? Many many women fail to have orgasms with vaginal intercourse. What if EVERY time you had sex with ANYONE you came? What if you never had cramps, or mood swings? What if you weren't the one getting pregnant?

... Then imagine that every man regularly is clean, well-groomed and better dressed, and suddenly becomes five times better looking (yes, this is the effect having boobs has on us... Ugly girl + nice boobs = Doable)

Because that is the reality of being male. Even ugly girls are attractive. Not in a 'I would shower them with attention' kind of way but in a 'three jagermeisters and then we'd be boning in the club bathroom' kind of way.

... and if you think that anything that you can do short of being a gigantic, acid-scarred, ball-busting biatch with a dyke haircut and strapped-down boobs will do anything to keep us away (and yes, we'd still fark you.)you're wrong.
 
db2
2013-02-11 10:38:49 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-11 10:40:30 AM  
Well, I gotta find a new approach somehow...the cave man approach, suggested her on FARk, where I bash em over the head and drag em away is just not working out for me
 
2013-02-11 10:41:54 AM  

NeoBad: Well, I gotta find a new approach somehow...the cave man approach, suggested her on FARk, where I bash em over the head and drag em away is just not working out for me


Don't hit them so hard.
 
2013-02-11 10:42:48 AM  

Rincewind53: Certainly true for some people, but the idea that men are only friends with women because they want to get into their pants is utter hogwash. Hogwash, I say.

My best friend is a woman, and the thought of having sex with her is like the thought of having sex with a sister. No. Thanks.


Not even if she said no attachments, just for fun? My wife has a friend (kinda sorta mine, too) who's at least 1K-cat crazy and I wouldn't EVER want to hook-up 'cause she's been thru, at least, one new husband a year for ten+ years, BUT, if the wife would give her Ok, and Nat promised to be civil (ya never know...ya know?), I'd tap it, just to add it to my bucket list (she's a good hittable, even though aged). You wouldn't? Then I have to agree with ranold:

You're gay.
 
2013-02-11 10:43:25 AM  

Millennium: If you are male, and you want to scare a female friend, tell her that your friendship is, at least on your end, driven by attraction. This method works every time. It's especially effective with longstanding friendships.

There are no doubt some men, especially younger men, for whom friendships with women are primarily driven by attraction. This is creepy.


So... be honest with her?
 
2013-02-11 10:43:30 AM  

rubi_con_man: Ladies :

Unless you've known your friends since you were less than ,say, eight (see :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect ) Then yes, he wants to have sex with you.

Once you've had sex together he may no longer be interested, but he certainly wants it.

http://www.laddertheory.com/

and if you say you have 'lots of male friends' who don't want to sleep with you, then you're either ugly or a cocktease.

Think about it this way: How much of your restraint (how often you change partners, how soon a new partner gets to the cookie) is based on considerations like pregnancy, disease or even menstrual behavioral patterns? Many many women fail to have orgasms with vaginal intercourse. What if EVERY time you had sex with ANYONE you came? What if you never had cramps, or mood swings? What if you weren't the one getting pregnant?

... Then imagine that every man regularly is clean, well-groomed and better dressed, and suddenly becomes five times better looking (yes, this is the effect having boobs has on us... Ugly girl + nice boobs = Doable)

Because that is the reality of being male. Even ugly girls are attractive. Not in a 'I would shower them with attention' kind of way but in a 'three jagermeisters and then we'd be boning in the club bathroom' kind of way.

... and if you think that anything that you can do short of being a gigantic, acid-scarred, ball-busting biatch with a dyke haircut and strapped-down boobs will do anything to keep us away (and yes, we'd still fark you.)you're wrong.


It's sad you have to point this out, then again no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the average woman.
 
2013-02-11 10:44:38 AM  

MaliFinn: ranold: Rincewind53: Certainly true for some people, but the idea that men are only friends with women because they want to get into their pants is utter hogwash. Hogwash, I say.

My best friend is a woman, and the thought of having sex with her is like the thought of having sex with a sister. No. Thanks.

You're gay.

It may strike you as odd, but some men occasionally think of women as something other than a place to stick a penis.

www.examiner.com

 
2013-02-11 10:45:03 AM  

miss diminutive: Insaniteus: This study proved zilch other than the fact that men ADMIT to more on surveys.  My best chick friend has a tendency to deny up one side and down the other that she has any interest in Guy X, right up until she's single and seeking him out, at which point she'll go on and on about how she's been wanting to be with him since they first met.

Women are just more used to hiding their true intentions.  We need a study like this that actually measures arousal levels in the brain to see if women truly are so different from men in this regard.

I don't think we're all that different, really. I think the main difference I've noticed is that women (myself included) simply won't put up with being in the "friend zone" for as long men will. If I'm interested in a guy and we become friends I eventually move on and set my sights on someone else if things don't progress after a certain amount of time. On the other hand, I know guys who'll be friends with a woman they want for years and years even though it's been made pretty clear that she has no interest in pursuing a romantic relationship.


Are you trying to say women are quitters?
 
2013-02-11 10:45:14 AM  

Ikahoshi: Nonsense. I have what... 5 female friends. They're like family and I would be horrified at the thought. A stranger pointed out that one good friend and I "made a good couple" and I felt physically ill at the thought. Yes, she's attractive but whatever attraction I might have had is totally subverted by the friendship.

I can't fully describe human attractions and friendships, because I'm no expert, but there's definitely a category where friends are just friends and will never be anything else, because the attraction aspect has been short circuited by a bond that approaches too close to the 'family' dynamic.


this is either complete utter bullshiat OR you are the world's biggest pussy.  In a world where dudes bang their cousins there is no way you have female friends that the thought of having sex with revolts you.  I can see not wanting to fark up a friendship but you know as well as I that if one of them dropped to her knees and started making with the cock sucking you'd blow chowder all in her hair.

Women - your guy friends all want to fark you and will given the chance.  Unless you are a hideous hose-beast (and even then they will think hard about it, hell all men have been hoggin' at one time or another) this is correct in ALL cases.  There is simply few cases of true platonic friendship between men and women.

My own wife had a friend that she SWORE was just a friend.  Right up until he asked her to leave me for him.  And this was a guy that had been her friend for over 5 years.

Just friends.  MMMHHHHMMM.

Women, don't buy our bullshiat.  We want in your pants.  That is why we hang around you, come sniffin' around when we hear you broke up with someone, call to check when we hear your cat died.

Pants.  We want in yours.

Because think about it - men don't NEED female "friends".  We have guy friends to do guy stuff with - playing xbox, talking about politics, watching sports, drinking beer, and our guy friends are ALL better and always will be better at that stuff than you women are, no matter HOW "tomboyish" you are.  We put up with female "friendship" so that we can get sex.

Why do you think "bad boys" get laid so much?  Because they dispense with the friendship bullcrap and just use women for what they actually WANT from women  - sex - and don't put up with the other crap.
 
2013-02-11 10:48:46 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It's sad you have to point this out, then again no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the average woman.


I don't think "intelligence" is the correct word. I think the word you're looking for is "naivety".
 
2013-02-11 10:50:03 AM  

MaliFinn: ranold: Rincewind53:

You're gay.

It may strike you as odd, but some men occasionally think of women as something other than a place to stick a penis.


Have you had your T-level checked? I agree that I present as a friend to most women (Those with their cleavage or bootie on permanent display are exempt) and use my upper head to think with, mostly...BUT if the topic is sex, I'd say yes if conditions are favorable, even for a long-time friend.
 
2013-02-11 10:50:06 AM  
If you really want to make a female friend nervous, forward her a link to this story, and say "Scientists are very wise."
 
2013-02-11 10:50:24 AM  

Millennium: If you are male, and you want to scare a female friend, tell her that your friendship is, at least on your end, driven by attraction. This method works every time. It's especially effective with longstanding friendships.

There are no doubt some men, especially younger men, for whom friendships with women are primarily driven by attraction. This is creepy.


it's normal.  but anyway, that's why they don't tell you.
 
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