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2013-02-11 07:29:06 AM  

WaitWhatWhy: geom_00: NobleHam: Yes.

Thanks.

Memo to the College of Cardinals.  PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THINGS HOLY...THINK MODERATE OR LIBERAL!

/Snowballs chance in hell.  I know.

Not Dolan, not Dolan, not Dolan.


Doesn't matter who they elect. Acually is Dolan. ALWAYS acually is Dolan.

/gooby pls
 
2013-02-11 07:29:59 AM  
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It's time
 
2013-02-11 07:29:59 AM  
Least successful Pope ever? To be fair, I'm working with a sample size of 2, and the previous guy was somerhing of a Rock Star, as Popes go.
 
2013-02-11 07:30:00 AM  

geom_00: TommyDeuce: From The Guardian:

Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson favourite to replace him

There is a Papal Election saying.  The one who enters the conclave as Pope will leave a Cardinal.


Perhaps, but wasn't the current Pope pretty much the odds on favorite at the last one?
 
2013-02-11 07:30:19 AM  
The Daily Mash has a good write up on what is going on. It looks like he found a new job.
 
2013-02-11 07:31:46 AM  
Medieval precedent? The best kind of precedent.
 
2013-02-11 07:32:02 AM  

NobleHam: professor_tom: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 224x406]

He is so far... but he's kind of moderate. Maybe even liberal, as Cardinals go. You won't find many, if any at all, who openly disagree with the church's policies on contraception or homosexuality, my big two issues with the Catholics. But once they get to be Pope, who knows?


Interesting he uses the quality argument. Condoms aren't as good in Africa, because of the heat and poor manufacturing. He's for them within monogamous couples.
 
2013-02-11 07:32:10 AM  
The people who think there's a big scandal brewing which required Star Wars Pope's resignation don't seem to understand - it wouldn't be an issue. People in those circles may certainly be shifty and tricky, but there is a key element which would make resigning a impossibility: they never believe they've actually done anything wrong, and moreso even if they have, who are you to question?

The histories of any large religion and/or cult are full of examples of people in charge being caught out, only to never recant - often to their dying breath - some of their more heinous crimes.

To put it another way, even if there was a massive scandal on the horizon, with evidence, the Pope would ride it out, as:
1) most followers would dismiss it;
2) a lot of people outside the church wouldn't care anyway - it's hardly a Superbowl blackout scandal, is it? And;
3) if the people implicated were at the top of the food chain, the wouldn't think they had done anything wrong in the first place. Hell, half of them would believe they had done good work in ensuring the status quo - and I'm not talking about the band, although they probably should be set on fire, just to be safe.

So,,,The exports of Libya are numerous in amount. One thing they export is corn, or as the Indians call it, "maize". Another famous Indian was "Crazy Horse". In conclusion, Libya is a land of contrast. Thank you.
 
2013-02-11 07:32:15 AM  
I have to get to bed...I work in 8 hours.  But, this is REALLY strange.

In the Catholic Church: The Imperial...er...The Pontiff will be leaving DURING Lent, the most important time in the churches calendar.  2013 has been declared the Year of Faith, AND, World Youth Day 2013, will be held in Rio this year.  This is a VERY strange time for the most powerful man in the church to step down...
 
2013-02-11 07:32:56 AM  

TommyDeuce: From The Guardian:

Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson favourite to replace him


My money is on the Argentinian guy. 5/1 Odds.
 
2013-02-11 07:33:25 AM  
Popes do not resign due to ill-health. Ill-health is guaranteed, because you die in office.... and Benedict is an arch-traditionalist.


Clearly his bum-farked a succession horses, dumped the evidence into the Findus UK food chain, and it's about to break.
 
2013-02-11 07:33:27 AM  

TommyDeuce: geom_00: TommyDeuce: From The Guardian:

Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson favourite to replace him

There is a Papal Election saying.  The one who enters the conclave as Pope will leave a Cardinal.

Perhaps, but wasn't the current Pope pretty much the odds on favorite at the last one?


Yep. But the media also had a favorite "what if this black guy became Pope" dude last time.
 
2013-02-11 07:34:45 AM  
Other odds...

Canadian - 5/2
Ghanan - 4/1
Italian - 6/1
 
2013-02-11 07:34:53 AM  
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2013-02-11 07:35:32 AM  

geom_00: I have to get to bed...I work in 8 hours.  But, this is REALLY strange.

In the Catholic Church: The Imperial...er...The Pontiff will be leaving DURING Lent, the most important time in the churches calendar.  2013 has been declared the Year of Faith, AND, World Youth Day 2013, will be held in Rio this year.  This is a VERY strange time for the most powerful man in the church to step down...


Yes. Why didn't he wait until Ordinary Time began again. For him to resign during Lent, it must have been serious.
 
2013-02-11 07:36:01 AM  

TommyDeuce: geom_00: TommyDeuce: From The Guardian:

Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson favourite to replace him

There is a Papal Election saying.  The one who enters the conclave as Pope will leave a Cardinal.

Perhaps, but wasn't the current Pope pretty much the odds on favorite at the last one?


I think Benedict WAS so popular because of the way he officiated? (if that is the word...I am tired...forgive me please) JPII's funeral.  The Homily he gave was stirring, and a great tribute to the late Pope.  It was always known the Bene would be more a "caretaker" Pope, but for this to happen...
 
2013-02-11 07:36:11 AM  

Corvus: Vote for me.


It was so much easier to read through he list in Medieval Total War ; )

But what I got out of that is this guy
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Angelo Sodano, has the highest precedence as a Cardinal Bishop as Dean of the College of Cardinals.
 
2013-02-11 07:36:56 AM  

Slaxl: tinfoil-hat maggie: Anybody industrious enough to look up the current college of cardinals for us?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_Cardinals#Members_of_the_Col le ge_of_Cardinals


Oh and thanks I'm lazy when I'm drinking ; )
 
2013-02-11 07:37:02 AM  
Does he change his name back, or does he continue to go by Bemedict? Is it like President, where you keep the honorific after you leave office?
 
2013-02-11 07:37:39 AM  

greentea1985: geom_00: I have to get to bed...I work in 8 hours.  But, this is REALLY strange.

In the Catholic Church: The Imperial...er...The Pontiff will be leaving DURING Lent, the most important time in the churches calendar.  2013 has been declared the Year of Faith, AND, World Youth Day 2013, will be held in Rio this year.  This is a VERY strange time for the most powerful man in the church to step down...

Yes. Why didn't he wait until Ordinary Time began again. For him to resign during Lent, it must have been serious.


Sarcasm?  Please forgive me.  I am tired and my sarcasm/bullshiat detectors are drained.  :)
 
2013-02-11 07:37:44 AM  
Something something something com-plete.
Something something something Catholic Church.
 
2013-02-11 07:38:33 AM  
I wonder what Saint Malachy would have to say about this...
 
2013-02-11 07:41:40 AM  
Perhaps he'll settle down in the suburbs and paint nude pictures of himself.
 
2013-02-11 07:41:52 AM  
In related news, Pope Benedict has began construction of a large, spherical space station and is seeking an apprentice.
 
2013-02-11 07:41:53 AM  
good thing i'm down with numerology i guess.
 
2013-02-11 07:42:16 AM  

greentea1985: punishmentforshoplifting: Wait...can he do that?

He can. Popes have resigned before, but the last one was back in the 1400s. Usually they just die in office. Either he';s starting to go senile (hence the wording "healthy in body and mind") and felt unable to lead the Church, there's a really damaging report coming out on his role in the sex abuse scandal (there is already strong circumstantial evidence that he helped cover up cases in Germany), or a combination of both. I wonder who the new pope will be.


I watched the HBO documentary on the pedophile priests this weekend. Some pretty damning content in that. I just can't understand why they elected to deal with these criminals in the manner that they have. Disgusting.
 
2013-02-11 07:42:39 AM  

deeproy: I wonder what Saint Malachy would have to say about this...


"Fark you guys, I didn't say that shiat. Stop attaching my name to some bullshiat prophecy."
 
2013-02-11 07:42:41 AM  
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2013-02-11 07:42:42 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Corvus: Vote for me.

It was so much easier to read through he list in Medieval Total War ; )

But what I got out of that is this guy
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Angelo Sodano, has the highest precedence as a Cardinal Bishop as Dean of the College of Cardinals.


Opps, and I screwed up and meant to post too Slaxl .

But it sorta still works ; )
 
2013-02-11 07:43:27 AM  
House of Cardinals?  That's the best headline?

Too Pooped to Pope would have been my choice.  Dammit, no more sleeping in late.
 
2013-02-11 07:44:25 AM  

amquelbettamin: Hmmm. If this had happened a year ago we all wouldn't have had to relearn the more accurate translation if the Nicene Creed.


Good point. Can we go back to "and also with you" instead of this "with your spirit" nonsense?
 
2013-02-11 07:44:27 AM  
Judging by his profile on Wikipedia, Peter Turkson does seem very well qualified for the role. And it's been 15 centuries since the last African pope, time for a new one I think.
 
2013-02-11 07:44:39 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: What kind of pope resigns at the start of Lent? Giving up the papacy for Lent probably won't go over so well in Heaven


Maybe he's been reading too many Courage Wolf pics?

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2013-02-11 07:45:13 AM  
Pope to resign, spend more time with the kids would have been mine...
 
2013-02-11 07:45:28 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: amquelbettamin: Hmmm. If this had happened a year ago we all wouldn't have had to relearn the more accurate translation if the Nicene Creed.

Good point. Can we go back to "and also with you" instead of this "with your spirit" nonsense?


THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
 
2013-02-11 07:45:38 AM  
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2013-02-11 07:46:03 AM  
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2013-02-11 07:46:04 AM  
Weren't all the Cardinals recalled to Rome last year just after Easter or was that the year before?
 
2013-02-11 07:46:15 AM  
Scandal? Come on, it's not like he's a Nazi or something..
 
2013-02-11 07:47:07 AM  
Did he have to give two Holy Weeks notice?
 
2013-02-11 07:47:10 AM  
It'll be Dolan, the first American pope, who had the stones to go into the lions' den at the Democrat convention and rebuke the godless babykillers.

As it was in the beginning, is now, and evermore shall be.

/Dolan pls
 
2013-02-11 07:47:19 AM  
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2013-02-11 07:47:30 AM  
 
2013-02-11 07:47:34 AM  

Andromeda: As I said from the non-greenlit thread, who wants to take bets as to what scandal is about to erupt?  Because these days I don't believe something so huge and unexpected from the Church makes anyone think "oh it's really just his poor health."

Also, the last time the pope resigned was in 1415 to avoid a schism- here's the article on papal resgination on Wikipedia.


This; John Paul II was ill for the last two years or so of his life and still stayed on as Pope.  There's something much, much bigger here than Benedict resigning due to "poor health".
 
2013-02-11 07:48:11 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: amquelbettamin: Hmmm. If this had happened a year ago we all wouldn't have had to relearn the more accurate translation if the Nicene Creed.

Good point. Can we go back to "and also with you" instead of this "with your spirit" nonsense?


This.  Hell, my now-former pastor messed it up at Easter Mass.  If he can't do it after saying at least three hundred masses at that point, what hope do we have??
 
2013-02-11 07:48:42 AM  

geom_00: Debeo Summa Credo: amquelbettamin: Hmmm. If this had happened a year ago we all wouldn't have had to relearn the more accurate translation if the Nicene Creed.

Good point. Can we go back to "and also with you" instead of this "with your spirit" nonsense?

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS


Yeah I liked it better when it was

"May the Force be with you"
"And also with you"
 
2013-02-11 07:48:47 AM  
Valentine Pontifex of Majipoor.
 
2013-02-11 07:48:51 AM  
Another abrupt end of German occupation of a formerly Polish territory...
 
2013-02-11 07:49:41 AM  

Rwa2play: Andromeda: As I said from the non-greenlit thread, who wants to take bets as to what scandal is about to erupt?  Because these days I don't believe something so huge and unexpected from the Church makes anyone think "oh it's really just his poor health."

Also, the last time the pope resigned was in 1415 to avoid a schism- here's the article on papal resgination on Wikipedia.

This; John Paul II was ill for the last two years or so of his life and still stayed on as Pope.  There's something much, much bigger here than Benedict resigning due to "poor health".


I'm thinking Alzheimer's or some other degenerative disease.
 
2013-02-11 07:50:15 AM  
Wow, even the Pope has to give two weeks' notice.
 
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