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2013-02-11 07:10:08 AM  
Now if the entire Farking Catholic Church would just resign as well.
 
2013-02-11 07:10:24 AM  
They made a big deal about him making his first tweet.  But after that, ol'Ben went off the rails.

"I am infallible!  Suck it, biatches!"
"Where the white women boys at?"
"Aren't there any hot nuns in the entire world to help bathe me?  Jesus!"

He violated corporate policy, and they have zero tolerance.
 
2013-02-11 07:10:37 AM  

namegoeshere: The miute I heard this (about a minute ago) I called shenanigans on the whole "poor health" thing. Popes do not resign. They just don't.

Scandal coming out.


I don't believe so.  JPII had a letter of resignation at hand, there have been other times when a Pope promised to resign in unprecedented times.
 
2013-02-11 07:10:54 AM  
Good riddance, you nazi piece of shiat.
 
2013-02-11 07:11:23 AM  

WaitWhatWhy: geom_00: Looking at a list of the College of Cardinals  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_Cardinals#Members_of_the_Coll e ge_of_Cardinals :

The youngest Cardinal I saw was born in 1950.

John Paul II was 58 when elected.  The YOUNGEST POPE who could be elected would already by 63

Technically, you don't even need to be a priest to be elected Pope, just a baptized male. There's not law requiring that they choose among cardinals, just lots of tradition.




Stephen Colbert for Pope. He had a crack at it last time, maybe he's wearing them down.
 
2013-02-11 07:11:39 AM  

BigBooper: So who here thinks that someone has proof that he either actively covered up a child abuse scandal, or that he did a little boy himself.


The news-worthy part of that story would be that a 85 year old man could still get it up.  Even with today's drugs, that would be a hell of a feat.
 
2013-02-11 07:12:03 AM  

MNguy: It will be nice to see a Latin American / Hispanic Pope.


clarify
 
2013-02-11 07:13:20 AM  

uttertosh: MNguy: It will be nice to see a Latin American / Hispanic Pope.

clarify


Marco Rubio is the obvious choice.
 
2013-02-11 07:13:24 AM  

BigBooper: geom_00: NobleHam: Yes.

Thanks.

Memo to the College of Cardinals.  PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ALL THINGS HOLY...THINK MODERATE OR LIBERAL!

/Snowballs chance in hell.  I know.

Wish list that might bring me back to the church:
1. Priests allowed to marry.
2. Allow the use of birth control
3. Equality for women (yes female priests)
4. A far more liberal view about homosexuality

Yep. not a snowballs chance in hell.

/haven't been in a church in years
//my daughters have never been in a church


So, basically ELCA Lutheran (as long as you aren't looking for use of Latin in service)
 
2013-02-11 07:14:19 AM  
If I were to grade this Pope, I'd give him a Holy C.
 
2013-02-11 07:14:20 AM  

uttertosh: MNguy: It will be nice to see a Latin American / Hispanic Pope.

clarify


There was a lot of speculation before Bene got picked that someone from a brownish country would get the nod, seeing as they comprise the largest group of Catholics in the world.  I'd be willing to bet that this time around it'll happen.
 
2013-02-11 07:14:24 AM  
Benedictum Palinus
 
2013-02-11 07:14:24 AM  
What kind of pope resigns at the start of Lent? Giving up the papacy for Lent probably won't go over so well in Heaven
 
2013-02-11 07:14:53 AM  
It's always news when a German surrenders.
 
2013-02-11 07:15:00 AM  

thisispete: I wonder if that means he can vote in conclave for the next pope, or be totally removed from the process.

I still consider myself Catholic, although I rarely go to mass these days. I don't think he's left much of a legacy. The next Pope is going to have to resolve the pedophilia scandals and hopefully reform the priesthood. I think it shows a lot of humility that Benedict accepts he's not up to the task anymore and is willing to step aside.


There is something about only the cardinals under 80 can vote. He's 85, so if they stick to the rule, no.

Also, GMA just asked some priest spokesguy what this Pope will be remembered for. He stumbled for a bit and then said, "He was a teaching pope, with his book..."

Yeah, no.

Also, it was asked if we'd ever see an American pope. The answer was, "The Catholic church sees America as a source of funds, not Popes."

So there you go, US Catholics. Your role in the greater church.
 
2013-02-11 07:15:24 AM  

maggoo: BigBooper: So who here thinks that someone has proof that he either actively covered up a child abuse scandal, or that he did a little boy himself.

The news-worthy part of that story would be that a 85 year old man could still get it up.  Even with today's drugs, that would be a hell of a feat.


Hugh Hefner just got married, and he is 86. But he is a special case.
 
2013-02-11 07:15:45 AM  

WaitWhatWhy: Not Dolan, not Dolan, not Dolan.


The chances of an American Cardinal being elected are slim to none.  The Holy See sees the US as already having too much power.  To add the papal throne to the list of power the US has would be a bad move for them.
 
2013-02-11 07:16:26 AM  

namegoeshere: thisispete: I wonder if that means he can vote in conclave for the next pope, or be totally removed from the process.

I still consider myself Catholic, although I rarely go to mass these days. I don't think he's left much of a legacy. The next Pope is going to have to resolve the pedophilia scandals and hopefully reform the priesthood. I think it shows a lot of humility that Benedict accepts he's not up to the task anymore and is willing to step aside.

There is something about only the cardinals under 80 can vote. He's 85, so if they stick to the rule, no.

Also, GMA just asked some priest spokesguy what this Pope will be remembered for. He stumbled for a bit and then said, "He was a teaching pope, with his book..."

Yeah, no.

Also, it was asked if we'd ever see an American pope. The answer was, "The Catholic church sees America as a source of funds, not Popes."

So there you go, US Catholics. Your role in the greater church.


Thank God, the head guy in the US (and therefore the most likely choice) is Tim Dolan, and he's a complete arsclown.
 
2013-02-11 07:16:51 AM  

Lord of Allusions: If I were to grade this Pope, I'd give him a Holy C.


+10 good sir, +10
 
2013-02-11 07:17:00 AM  
This is suspicious. John Paul II kept power way after he was sick and invalid. I wonder what the real reason is.
 
2013-02-11 07:17:23 AM  

MNguy: It will be nice to see a Latin American / Hispanic Pope.


Are you trying to give Bill O'Reilly a stroke? Just a hunch, but I'm going with old, European and white.
 
2013-02-11 07:17:41 AM  

MNguy: uttertosh: MNguy: It will be nice to see a Latin American / Hispanic Pope.

clarify

There was a lot of speculation before Bene got picked that someone from a brownish country would get the nod, seeing as they comprise the largest group of Catholics in the world.  I'd be willing to bet that this time around it'll happen.


I'd actually take that bet. It'd be interesting to see a brown person get it, but the College of Cardinals is still mostly white and old. I wouldn't be surprised if enough of them are as racist as my Mississippi grandma to block it.
 
2013-02-11 07:18:54 AM  

ChrisDe: MNguy: It will be nice to see a Latin American / Hispanic Pope.

Are you trying to give Bill O'Reilly a stroke? Just a hunch, but I'm going with old, European and white.


I know, but can't a lapsed Catholic boy dream?
 
2013-02-11 07:19:29 AM  
media.salon.com

It would get her out of the US for a while.  And you guys could invent the term "PILF"
 
2013-02-11 07:19:37 AM  

amquelbettamin: UDel_Kitty: amquelbettamin: Hmmm. If this had happened a year ago we all wouldn't have had to relearn the more accurate translation if the Nicene Creed.

I don't care how accurate it is, saying "seen and unseen" vs "visible and invisible" is so much more succinct. Still haven't learned the new words, and most of the cheat cards seem to have disappeared from the pews.

There's an iPhone app called Laudate that has it. Of course it looks like your checking your email during Mass


Then again, that Bieber ringtone during the Kyries isn't helping things either.

/lapsed catholic here
//i didn't know he could resign either
///last election happened 2wks before my grandmother died
 
2013-02-11 07:19:54 AM  

geom_00: WaitWhatWhy: Not Dolan, not Dolan, not Dolan.

The chances of an American Cardinal being elected are slim to none.  The Holy See sees the US as already having too much power.  To add the papal throne to the list of power the US has would be a bad move for them.


So is it as unlikely as a Pope quitting?
 
2013-02-11 07:20:06 AM  

desertfool: Hugh Hefner just got married, and he is 86. But he is a special case.


Hugh Hefner makes his living pretending he is a stud that screws strings of women. So, if he couldn't perform then he might as well be out of a job.  Someone like the pope isn't exactly pressured into having sex with anyone.  In fact, its quite the opposite.
 
2013-02-11 07:20:22 AM  
I'm laughing at the people who say there's a scandal coming out soon. There have been what, 15 years of scandal now? One more isn't going to do much.
 
2013-02-11 07:20:24 AM  
img58.imageshack.us ?
 
2013-02-11 07:21:21 AM  
Veni vidi abii
 
2013-02-11 07:21:47 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Nazi


You know, I don't know if it's really all that fair to criticize Benedict XVI as a Nazi. He was never a member of the party, and while he was a member of the Hitler Youth, German Law mandates all children above a certain age at the time to be members and it was noted that he was not a particularly willing participant in the Hitler Youth.
 
2013-02-11 07:22:23 AM  

stuhayes2010: This is suspicious. John Paul II kept power way after he was sick and invalid. I wonder what the real reason is.


Maybe they've decided that having an invalid at the head of the largest religious organization on earth isn't such a good idea.
 
2013-02-11 07:22:29 AM  
As hard as I try, I simply cannot give a shiat.
 
2013-02-11 07:22:34 AM  

greentea1985: Copper Spork: greentea1985: He can. Popes have resigned before, but the last one was back in the 1400s. Usually they just die in office. Either he';s starting to go senile (hence the wording "healthy in body and mind") and felt unable to lead the Church, there's a really damaging report coming out on his role in the sex abuse scandal (there is already strong circumstantial evidence that he helped cover up cases in Germany), or a combination of both. I wonder who the new pope will be.

Senility didn't stop JP2. Besides, hearing voices is a requirement for becoming Pope.

That's part of why this seems so strange. Popes only resign under really pressing circumstances, like preventing a schism. I find health to be stretching it a bit.


He can prove that his poor health was the real reason by dying in short order.
 
2013-02-11 07:22:36 AM  
On the plus side, this will make skipping mass much easier.

"You think it's bad for me to miss Sunday services, dear? The frickin' Pope just quit! I don't think God will miss me."
 
2013-02-11 07:22:44 AM  
Got tired of the rotten TV reception . . .

homegame.org
 
2013-02-11 07:23:06 AM  
 
2013-02-11 07:23:11 AM  

WaitWhatWhy: geom_00: Looking at a list of the College of Cardinals  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_Cardinals#Members_of_the_Coll e ge_of_Cardinals :

The youngest Cardinal I saw was born in 1950.

John Paul II was 58 when elected.  The YOUNGEST POPE who could be elected would already by 63

Technically, you don't even need to be a priest to be elected Pope, just a baptized male. There's not law requiring that they choose among cardinals, just lots of tradition.




I call dibs. Sure there's the celibacy thing, but I can change that. Perks of infallibility.
 
2013-02-11 07:23:44 AM  
I can see the ad now...

Do you know me? I used to be God's chosen representative on Earth. Now, I just sit around the house all day. That's why I carry the American Express card. Don't leave the Vatican without it.
 
2013-02-11 07:23:50 AM  

TommyDeuce: geom_00: WaitWhatWhy: Not Dolan, not Dolan, not Dolan.

The chances of an American Cardinal being elected are slim to none.  The Holy See sees the US as already having too much power.  To add the papal throne to the list of power the US has would be a bad move for them.

So is it as unlikely as a Pope quitting?


More. Dolan's only been Cardinal a year and most of the other American Cardinals have too much abuse scandal baggage, on top of the reason above.
 
2013-02-11 07:24:44 AM  
Anybody industrious enough to look up the current college of cardinals for us?
 
2013-02-11 07:24:59 AM  
Even he can't stand Notre Dame football any longer.
 
2013-02-11 07:25:07 AM  
Rainer Woelki - From wikipedia.

In October 2012 Cardinal Woelki was nominated for a Respect Award by the Alliance Against Homophobia. He was praised by the group for speaking out in favour of a 'new cooperation with homosexuals in society' and officially meeting the Association for Gays and Lesbians for talks This, the alliance said, had 'broken the tension between his Church and gays and lesbians and had laid the foundations for further exchange and for a constructive dialogue'. However Cardinal Woelki declined the nomination

Third youngest Cardinal...German
 
2013-02-11 07:25:53 AM  

WaitWhatWhy: There's not law requiring that they choose among cardinals, just lots of tradition.


There's been plenty of historical precedent where the college of cardinals choose some random monk or priest who didn't really want to be the pope.
 
2013-02-11 07:25:54 AM  
Vote for me.
 
2013-02-11 07:25:57 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Anybody industrious enough to look up the current college of cardinals for us?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_of_Cardinals#Members_of_the_Col le ge_of_Cardinals
 
2013-02-11 07:26:43 AM  
From The Guardian:

Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson favourite to replace him
 
2013-02-11 07:28:01 AM  

xanadian: Can't read this thread without this playing in the background...


There is a reason I have come to love you : )
 
2013-02-11 07:28:01 AM  

RexTalionis: WaitWhatWhy: There's not law requiring that they choose among cardinals, just lots of tradition.

There's been plenty of historical precedent where the college of cardinals choose some random monk or priest who didn't really want to be the pope.


True, but it's been a while since they did that. Those guys tend to be a little more likely to rock the boat, and I don't think the current crop of entrenched old white men are looking for major reform. Be interesting as hell if it happened though.
 
2013-02-11 07:28:11 AM  

TommyDeuce: From The Guardian:

Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson favourite to replace him


There is a Papal Election saying.  The one who enters the conclave as Pope will leave a Cardinal.
 
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