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(Short List)   Three-year-old joins Mensa after her IQ scores higher than Stephen Hawking. Meanwhile Subby, 32, is so dum he's probably managed a typo somewhere in this submmision   (shortlist.com) divider line 19
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2013-02-11 10:11:10 AM  
4 votes:
IQ tests test specific knowledge and abstract reasoning, not intellect.

I am programmer with a high IQ. My mechanic step-father has a low one.  Who do you want working on your car?

Here's a harder one: do you want uneducated but experienced construction workers building your house, or the architects and structural engineers that designed it?
2013-02-11 09:03:57 AM  
4 votes:
Remember, if you want to boast about the enormous size of your IQ in one of these threads, there are certain standards and procedures that you need to follow lest people think you're some sort of insufferable braggart. First of all, you need to begin your IQ statement with some sort of declaimer explaining that you don't really care about your IQ. Something like, "I'm not really sure that it means all that much," or "I've never really placed much stock in this, but," or something like that. You could also go a slightly different path, acknowledging that your IQ is perhaps not quite as high as that of others, but that you were hung over/sick/distracted/bored when you took the test and so almost certainly didn't score as high as you otherwise might. Be careful to not overplay this hand, especially if others have already used something similar.

When you get to the actual number, it's generally best to express it as a range. Like, saying "I scored a 147" would possibly be impressive, except that, like in the Price is Right when some asshat comes in on the initial bid and goes one dollar over your offer and wins as a result, it's too easy to top. So, keeping it somewhat vague (I scored in the 140s-150s range, but the administrator said there were some irregularities that might have meant I actually scored much higher, etc.) works to your advantage. It's also a good idea to hang back in the thread a bit, wait to see if there some general field of scores being posted, and remain within striking distance of that so that you don't sound too out there. For example, if everyone is placing themselves in the 150-160 range, you might come in the upper 160s. Don't blow the field by more than a few points, though; you're likely to find yourself a target.

Self-hobbling is another great technique to make yourself seem more realistic when it comes to your high IQ score. By this, I mean claiming some sort of amusing defect that you must live with on a daily basis despite being "gifted" with such an enormous intellect. For example, you might be someone with a 180 IQ who can't, for the life of him, change his car oil. And you might sentimentalize a bit about it, must on how sometimes you think it would be a good thing to be just slightly less perceptive, slightly less intelligent, if only you could get your hands around some of the "common sense," "nitty gritty" know how that the less intellectually endowed sometimes seem to have. It doesn't have to be mechanical skills, of course. Maybe you're forgetful, always misplacing your keys. Maybe you're just  terrible with names. Be creative, that's what you do.
2013-02-11 10:27:25 AM  
2 votes:

Solty Dog: Is Mensa a life time thing or do you have to keep proving your IQ? I can imagine some people peaking at a young age and then having trouble with the word jumble in the Sunday paper later in life.


Once you prove your intelligence, I believe that they let you pay them money for the rest of your life -- which, I believe, then proves your un-intellegence.
2013-02-11 10:19:59 AM  
2 votes:
The only thing more useless than an IQ test for an adult is an IQ test for a three-year-old.
2013-02-11 10:10:23 AM  
2 votes:
What does it say about Mensa, or having a high IQ in general, if a three year old can do it? Does it really mean being good at solving puzzles while having no actual knowledge of the world?
2013-02-11 08:47:15 AM  
2 votes:
People make the mistake of thinking that IQ is some sort of permanent and unchanging characteristic about you. It's more like your belt size - it can fluctuate over time.
2013-02-11 08:10:25 AM  
2 votes:
Meanwhile in the U.S....

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2013-02-11 04:54:48 PM  
1 votes:
1 also is not prime.
2013-02-11 03:54:41 PM  
1 votes:

iron_city_ap: When I was 2 I spoke french, german, russian and chineese equally well. I also taught my younger sister things (like pain). I didn't get some fancy piece of paper.


That's nothing, I spoke french, german, russian, chinese, english AND tamil equally well, on the day I was BORN.
2013-02-11 11:37:07 AM  
1 votes:

kvinesknows: serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.

any number can of course come next, HOWEVER, its about any number using current "normal" considerations.

ie.  that obviously prime numbers in our context.. and the context the test would be written under.  However, a real genius may just find a new number that given proper logical explanation is correct... but NOT what the test is looking for.


New Scientist ran a "super-high-IQ tests" article a while back, and a few people wrote in demonstrating exactly that, that number sequence questions can have all sorts of valid answers.

Nine is not a prime number by the way. And a number sequence question where the answer is "oh, these are prime numbers" is really a question on trivia, not reasoning, isn't it?
2013-02-11 10:53:08 AM  
1 votes:
So just like a penis thread, this is where everyone lies about how big their IQ is?

/no one cares what your IQ is
//no one believes you either
2013-02-11 10:27:41 AM  
1 votes:

Solty Dog: Is Mensa a life time thing or do you have to keep proving your IQ? I can imagine some people peaking at a young age and then having trouble with the word jumble in the Sunday paper later in life.


As long as you pay your dues, you're in. Just like AARP.
2013-02-11 10:26:03 AM  
1 votes:

andrewagill: /Last I checked, my IQ was 140.
//On one part of the test (I think the verbal IQ), I scored "off the charts", which caps out at 160.
///Was a LONG time ago.


Oh, great, IQ braggers.
2013-02-11 10:24:57 AM  
1 votes:
I enjoyed your headline subby. +1, would grammar nazi again.
2013-02-11 10:17:47 AM  
1 votes:
IQ means intelligence quotient.  It is defined as the quotient of your mental age divided by your physical age.

So if you multiply your physical age by your IQ, you get your mental age.

This girl is the mental equivalent of somewhere between four and seven years old (if it's like, the day before her fourth birthday).

/Last I checked, my IQ was 140.
//On one part of the test (I think the verbal IQ), I scored "off the charts", which caps out at 160.
///Was a LONG time ago.
2013-02-11 09:45:21 AM  
1 votes:

Pocket Ninja: Remember, if you want to boast about the enormous size of your IQ in one of these threads

...


Heh heh!  This.


/How do you know someone is in Mensa?
//They'll tell you!
2013-02-11 09:01:50 AM  
1 votes:
My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.
2013-02-11 08:28:49 AM  
1 votes:
I find that the identified "prodigies" tend to either go on to great works or utterly burn out before they leave their teens and go and do something else instead - or they go insane and/or commit suicide. Mostly the latter two, very rarely the former.

Then again, Mensa is filled with a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses who sit around doing nothing for the benefit of the world except for Sodoku and Crossword puzzles, so I don't take much stock in them.
2013-02-11 08:27:52 AM  
1 votes:
If her parents were smart and wanted to filthy rich, they'd slap the kid's name and face on some "Baby Einstein" type of crap and sit back and watch every soccer mom in the US drain their bank accounts buying all of it.
 
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