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(Short List)   Three-year-old joins Mensa after her IQ scores higher than Stephen Hawking. Meanwhile Subby, 32, is so dum he's probably managed a typo somewhere in this submmision   (shortlist.com) divider line 150
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2013-02-11 08:10:25 AM  
Meanwhile in the U.S....

blog.zap2it.com
 
2013-02-11 08:13:35 AM  
it's sumbission dammit.  Learn how to spell subby.
 
2013-02-11 08:27:52 AM  
If her parents were smart and wanted to filthy rich, they'd slap the kid's name and face on some "Baby Einstein" type of crap and sit back and watch every soccer mom in the US drain their bank accounts buying all of it.
 
2013-02-11 08:28:49 AM  
I find that the identified "prodigies" tend to either go on to great works or utterly burn out before they leave their teens and go and do something else instead - or they go insane and/or commit suicide. Mostly the latter two, very rarely the former.

Then again, Mensa is filled with a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses who sit around doing nothing for the benefit of the world except for Sodoku and Crossword puzzles, so I don't take much stock in them.
 
2013-02-11 08:29:18 AM  

PacManDreaming: If her parents were smart and wanted to be filthy rich


Looks like I need some "Baby Einstein" crap to watch.
 
2013-02-11 08:41:23 AM  
Despite the fact that we live in a society that generally tends to place great value on having a high intellect, I can't help but think of a three year old with such a high IQ as being a freak show. Assuming the child is capable of performing on an intellectual level of an adult, of course.
 
2013-02-11 08:47:15 AM  
People make the mistake of thinking that IQ is some sort of permanent and unchanging characteristic about you. It's more like your belt size - it can fluctuate over time.
 
2013-02-11 09:01:50 AM  
My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.
 
2013-02-11 09:03:57 AM  
Remember, if you want to boast about the enormous size of your IQ in one of these threads, there are certain standards and procedures that you need to follow lest people think you're some sort of insufferable braggart. First of all, you need to begin your IQ statement with some sort of declaimer explaining that you don't really care about your IQ. Something like, "I'm not really sure that it means all that much," or "I've never really placed much stock in this, but," or something like that. You could also go a slightly different path, acknowledging that your IQ is perhaps not quite as high as that of others, but that you were hung over/sick/distracted/bored when you took the test and so almost certainly didn't score as high as you otherwise might. Be careful to not overplay this hand, especially if others have already used something similar.

When you get to the actual number, it's generally best to express it as a range. Like, saying "I scored a 147" would possibly be impressive, except that, like in the Price is Right when some asshat comes in on the initial bid and goes one dollar over your offer and wins as a result, it's too easy to top. So, keeping it somewhat vague (I scored in the 140s-150s range, but the administrator said there were some irregularities that might have meant I actually scored much higher, etc.) works to your advantage. It's also a good idea to hang back in the thread a bit, wait to see if there some general field of scores being posted, and remain within striking distance of that so that you don't sound too out there. For example, if everyone is placing themselves in the 150-160 range, you might come in the upper 160s. Don't blow the field by more than a few points, though; you're likely to find yourself a target.

Self-hobbling is another great technique to make yourself seem more realistic when it comes to your high IQ score. By this, I mean claiming some sort of amusing defect that you must live with on a daily basis despite being "gifted" with such an enormous intellect. For example, you might be someone with a 180 IQ who can't, for the life of him, change his car oil. And you might sentimentalize a bit about it, must on how sometimes you think it would be a good thing to be just slightly less perceptive, slightly less intelligent, if only you could get your hands around some of the "common sense," "nitty gritty" know how that the less intellectually endowed sometimes seem to have. It doesn't have to be mechanical skills, of course. Maybe you're forgetful, always misplacing your keys. Maybe you're just  terrible with names. Be creative, that's what you do.
 
2013-02-11 09:45:21 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Remember, if you want to boast about the enormous size of your IQ in one of these threads

...


Heh heh!  This.


/How do you know someone is in Mensa?
//They'll tell you!
 
2013-02-11 10:08:22 AM  
Apparently she's so smart that she cuts her own hair.
 
2013-02-11 10:10:23 AM  
What does it say about Mensa, or having a high IQ in general, if a three year old can do it? Does it really mean being good at solving puzzles while having no actual knowledge of the world?
 
2013-02-11 10:11:10 AM  
IQ tests test specific knowledge and abstract reasoning, not intellect.

I am programmer with a high IQ. My mechanic step-father has a low one.  Who do you want working on your car?

Here's a harder one: do you want uneducated but experienced construction workers building your house, or the architects and structural engineers that designed it?
 
2013-02-11 10:13:56 AM  
What test did she take, I wonder? Different tests will yield different results, which even Mensa acknowledges: the IQ threshold is different depending on what test you take.
 
2013-02-11 10:17:27 AM  

Hoboclown: What does it say about Mensa, or having a high IQ in general, if a three year old can do it? Does it really mean being good at solving puzzles while having no actual knowledge of the world?


IQ is supposed to be a proportion. I'd call the reliability of any test given to a three-year-old into question, but three-year-olds can be highly intelligent. They obviously don't know as much as an adult would -though you'd be surprised: the amount we learn in the first few years of life is staggering- but intelligence isn't about having a big store of facts in your brain. It helps in building such a store, but it's not the same thing as that store.
 
2013-02-11 10:17:47 AM  
IQ means intelligence quotient.  It is defined as the quotient of your mental age divided by your physical age.

So if you multiply your physical age by your IQ, you get your mental age.

This girl is the mental equivalent of somewhere between four and seven years old (if it's like, the day before her fourth birthday).

/Last I checked, my IQ was 140.
//On one part of the test (I think the verbal IQ), I scored "off the charts", which caps out at 160.
///Was a LONG time ago.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:07 AM  

Hoboclown: What does it say about Mensa, or having a high IQ in general, if a three year old can do it? Does it really mean being good at solving puzzles while having no actual knowledge of the world?


The idea behind the IQ score is that it's age adjusted for development. If a 3 year old has an IQ of 150 (for simplified math), that means that she has the reasoning skills of somebody 150% her age, or similar to a 4.5 year old. A 10 year old with an IQ of 150 would have the mental skills of a 15 year old. Once you hit a certain age, that stops meaning anything rational.

Let's say you're 25. If you performed the same on the IQ test as the 3 year old did, you would have an IQ of about 20. So, no, "A three year old can do it" is really not the line you want to take here.

Others have already pointed out most of the flaws in the concept of an IQ test to begin with, so I won't reiterate them.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:38 AM  

nmemkha: IQ tests test specific knowledge and abstract reasoning, not intellect.

I am programmer with a high IQ. My mechanic step-father has a low one.  Who do you want working on your car?

Here's a harder one: do you want uneducated but experienced construction workers building your house, or the architects and structural engineers that designed it?


Honestly? The structural engineer, maybe with the help of a construction worker. Sure it will take more time, but he's not going to take the shortcuts that the construction worker took.

//Could I afford to have this happen? No.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:59 AM  
The only thing more useless than an IQ test for an adult is an IQ test for a three-year-old.
 
2013-02-11 10:24:08 AM  
Is Mensa a life time thing or do you have to keep proving your IQ? I can imagine some people peaking at a young age and then having trouble with the word jumble in the Sunday paper later in life.
 
2013-02-11 10:24:57 AM  
I enjoyed your headline subby. +1, would grammar nazi again.
 
2013-02-11 10:26:03 AM  

andrewagill: /Last I checked, my IQ was 140.
//On one part of the test (I think the verbal IQ), I scored "off the charts", which caps out at 160.
///Was a LONG time ago.


Oh, great, IQ braggers.
 
2013-02-11 10:27:25 AM  

Solty Dog: Is Mensa a life time thing or do you have to keep proving your IQ? I can imagine some people peaking at a young age and then having trouble with the word jumble in the Sunday paper later in life.


Once you prove your intelligence, I believe that they let you pay them money for the rest of your life -- which, I believe, then proves your un-intellegence.
 
2013-02-11 10:27:32 AM  
Well at 3 years old I see she has learned to wear whore lipstick.
 
2013-02-11 10:27:41 AM  

Solty Dog: Is Mensa a life time thing or do you have to keep proving your IQ? I can imagine some people peaking at a young age and then having trouble with the word jumble in the Sunday paper later in life.


As long as you pay your dues, you're in. Just like AARP.
 
2013-02-11 10:28:34 AM  
When I was 2 I spoke french, german, russian and chineese equally well. I also taught my younger sister things (like pain). I didn't get some fancy piece of paper.
 
2013-02-11 10:29:27 AM  
In before...

RexTalionis: Then again, Mensa is filled with a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses who sit around doing nothing for the benefit of the world except for Sodoku and Crossword puzzles, so I don't take much stock in them.


Dammit.
 
2013-02-11 10:30:34 AM  
In fact, the purported IQ score of a child means absolutely nothing. Some psychologist will hopefully chime in here and explain in detail, but it seems to me that they give the test, look at the resulting raw score, then compare it to the bell curve for kids their age and use that to extrapolate to what it would be if they were at the same point on the adult bell curve. Which obviously entails a huge assumption.

Basically, if your kid is a precocious reader and you've been taking an active role in providing them a traditional (maths/language/reasoning) education, they can score any sort of stupid meaningless number all the way up to 250 or something. My dad was a typical WWII vet/1950s household father, who taught me math and bought me "a children's guide to..." books - heck, he gave me a dictionary when I was 6 - so I ended up in grade 3 being selected for the "gifted program" based on some sort of IQ-like test, along with a whole pile of other kids who were essentially same as everyone else but with more traditional, education-positive parents.

I took a Mensa IQ test a couple years ago, by the way, and was amazed at how many of the answers I was able to solve just because I've been using AutoCAD for ten years. Being able to mentally rotate solids in 2 or 3 dimensions, do math, and infer extrapolations is just a part of my daily tasks at work.

I wish there was an "ex-Mensa" club I could join. Seems all the cool people do Mensa for a year, then quit cos it's ghey.
 
2013-02-11 10:30:47 AM  
Somebody is going to be a social pariah. She'll probably still be a virgin when she graduates from preschool.
 
2013-02-11 10:32:12 AM  

RexTalionis: andrewagill: /Last I checked, my IQ was 140.
//On one part of the test (I think the verbal IQ), I scored "off the charts", which caps out at 160.
///Was a LONG time ago.

Oh, great, IQ braggers.


Yeah, but what's his Fark account number?
 
2013-02-11 10:37:46 AM  

RexTalionis: Oh, great, IQ braggers.


As if this thread had any chance of avoiding it.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:34 AM  
I bet she still shiats her pants now and then, but at least she can tell her parents in Russian.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:55 AM  
I subscribe to Buffalo theory.
 
2013-02-11 10:40:19 AM  
Ever hang out with Mensans?  Didja want to kill them after two minutes?


/ stop with the farkin' puns!
 
2013-02-11 10:42:13 AM  

Hoboclown: What does it say about Mensa, or having a high IQ in general, if a three year old can do it? Does it really mean being good at solving puzzles while having no actual knowledge of the world?


A 3 year old doesn't get the IQ test an adult or a teen would. It would probably be more like the prison scene in Idiocracy than "Find the next number in this sequence: 1/9, 1/6, 1/4, ...".

An IQ test on a three year old doesn't even say very much. IQ at young ages correlates pretty weakly with IQ at age 18, which would mean that she might still remain above average but she might also take a dive and wind up with a score of 90 (unlikely, but it could theoretically happen).

nmemkha: IQ tests test specific knowledge and abstract reasoning, not intellect.

I am programmer with a high IQ. My mechanic step-father has a low one.  Who do you want working on your car?

Here's a harder one: do you want uneducated but experienced construction workers building your house, or the architects and structural engineers that designed it?


A decent IQ test would be restricted to knowledge everyone should be expected to have. So there wouldn't be a world geography question but fractions (which everyone learns at some point or another) could appear, just like mental rotation, image sequences etc. It is also quite a cop-out to point to people with specific skill sets as "intelligent" as those are what they learned in life. Just because someone with a low IQ is a mechanic and someone with a high IQ sucks at being a mechanic doesn't mean the mechanic is intelligent or smart. Just that they possess the required skills for being a mechanic. It is also why you'll never see an IQ test asking people to wire a house or to rebuild an internal combustion engine.
 
2013-02-11 10:42:28 AM  

iron_city_ap: I subscribe to Buffalo theory.


That the Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo?
 
2013-02-11 10:44:45 AM  

Cythraul: Despite the fact that we live in a society that generally tends to place great value on having a high intellect, I can't help but think of a three year old with such a high IQ as being a freak show. Assuming the child is capable of performing on an intellectual level of an adult, of course.


You lost me there.
 
2013-02-11 10:44:58 AM  
As an 18 month old super-genius, I'm getting a kick out of some of these replies...
 
2013-02-11 10:46:15 AM  
She's probably great at linear thinking. Give her an abstract problem that requires imagination and it all goes downhill quickly. IQ isn't practical knowledge. Look at fark. Some great minds here, but somefarkers are so closed off from new ideas they refuse to deviate outside of anything they've been taught in school.
 
2013-02-11 10:47:28 AM  

RexTalionis: I find that the identified "prodigies" tend to either go on to great works or utterly burn out before they leave their teens and go and do something else instead - or they go insane and/or commit suicide. Mostly the latter two, very rarely the former.


This is true. My little nephew showed great promise as a future Bond villain when he was three, but by the time he was five all he was interested in was feeling the babysitter out.
 
2013-02-11 10:52:17 AM  
When I was a teenager I made the Who's Who of American High School Students. I think...I mean I didn't buy a copy so I have no idea if they really put me in there.
 
2013-02-11 10:53:08 AM  
So just like a penis thread, this is where everyone lies about how big their IQ is?

/no one cares what your IQ is
//no one believes you either
 
2013-02-11 10:53:28 AM  
Too Old.
 
2013-02-11 10:53:42 AM  
Crazy that we still have to test for this. Is modern neuroscience still so completely in the dark that even with high-resolution MRI technology they can't tell us simple things like "is this person smart"?
 
2013-02-11 10:54:20 AM  

andrewagill: IQ means intelligence quotient.  It is defined as the quotient of your mental age divided by your physical age.

So if you multiply your physical age by your IQ, you get your mental age.

This girl is the mental equivalent of somewhere between four and seven years old (if it's like, the day before her fourth birthday).

/Last I checked, my IQ was 140.
//On one part of the test (I think the verbal IQ), I scored "off the charts", which caps out at 160.
///Was a LONG time ago.


So that means people who are 0 years old have an infinite IQ!
 
2013-02-11 10:55:18 AM  

mccallcl: Crazy that we still have to test for this. Is modern neuroscience still so completely in the dark that even with high-resolution MRI technology they can't tell us simple things like "is this person smart"?


According to my tricorder, no, you aren't.
 
2013-02-11 10:55:38 AM  

syrynxx: Meanwhile in the U.S....


That just lowered everyone's IQ by 30 points.
 
2013-02-11 10:56:45 AM  

MindStalker: nmemkha: IQ tests test specific knowledge and abstract reasoning, not intellect.

I am programmer with a high IQ. My mechanic step-father has a low one.  Who do you want working on your car?

Here's a harder one: do you want uneducated but experienced construction workers building your house, or the architects and structural engineers that designed it?

Honestly? The structural engineer, maybe with the help of a construction worker. Sure it will take more time, but he's not going to take the shortcuts that the construction worker took.

//Could I afford to have this happen? No.


Apparently you don't know how construction works. The experienced construction worker will make it safer and better than the structural engineer would. The word "experienced" is the power word in this context.
 
2013-02-11 10:56:51 AM  

RexTalionis: Then again, Mensa is filled with a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses who sit around doing nothing for the benefit of the world except for Sodoku and Crossword puzzles, so I don't take much stock in them.


Said the fox.

So if you multiply your physical age by your IQ, you get your mental age.

This definition is over 100 years out of date.
 
2013-02-11 10:57:51 AM  
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2013-02-11 10:58:32 AM  
While I'm not one to consider IQ scores a major achievement, especially since their methodology is so flawed, I've consistently scored in the 170-180 range in many online, time-based IQ tests. I was never really trying that hard, so I probably could have scored over 9000 if I was focused.

I appreciate the finer things in life, like a perfect cup of espresso, or the melody of a bird's song. However, I just can't find the time to put the dishes in the dishwasher. It's such a trivial inconvenience, as is the toilet, which is why I use a jar and a bedpan between games of Arathi Basin and I always keep a minifridge filled with Diet Mountain Dews and a heavy stock of cheetos nearby.
 
2013-02-11 10:59:52 AM  
""She was picking up numbers and learning maths very quickly and by the time she was two years ...."

I was told there would be no maths.
 
2013-02-11 11:00:43 AM  
Lets see her get into the national honors society.
 
2013-02-11 11:02:02 AM  

jaylectricity: When I was a teenager I made the Who's Who of American High School Students. I think...I mean I didn't buy a copy so I have no idea if they really put me in there.


I remember that.  I also remember that the principal of my high school put out a letter warning parents not to buy into it because it was a scam.
 
2013-02-11 11:04:46 AM  

abhorrent1: So just like a penis thread, this is where everyone lies about how big their IQ is?

/no one cares what your IQ is
//no one believes you either


My IQ is 9. I had one girl break up with me because she was so sore afterwards; she just couldn't take a hard thinking.
 
2013-02-11 11:08:05 AM  

natazha: RexTalionis: Then again, Mensa is filled with a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses who sit around doing nothing for the benefit of the world except for Sodoku and Crossword puzzles, so I don't take much stock in them.

Said the fox.

So if you multiply your physical age by your IQ, you get your mental age.

This definition is over 100 years out of date.


I don't even know what that means. Also, I never said the physical age divided by mental age thing.
 
2013-02-11 11:08:46 AM  

RexTalionis: Then again, Mensa is filled with a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses who sit around doing nothing for the benefit of the world except for Sodoku and Crossword puzzles, so I don't take much stock in them.


Then again, we don't take much stock in people who can't spell six-letter words.
 
2013-02-11 11:14:41 AM  

SevenizGud: RexTalionis: Then again, Mensa is filled with a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses who sit around doing nothing for the benefit of the world except for Sodoku and Crossword puzzles, so I don't take much stock in them.

Then again, we don't take much stock in people who can't spell six-letter words.


Sodoku is an actual six-letter word in the Japanese language.  It means "rat poison," but refers to a disease caused by rat bites.  In particular, rat bite fever caused by the spirillum minus bacteria.  The symptoms are pretty minor like headache and malaise, but the complications include heart problems, hepatitis, and enlarged spleen.  Not as bad as Hantavirus.
 
2013-02-11 11:17:03 AM  

abhorrent1: So just like a penis thread, this is where everyone lies about how big their IQ is?


No, apparently an IQ thread is where dummies go to snark at people with high IQs. Sorta like how a penis thread is where microphallics go to snark about guys with big dicks.
 
2013-02-11 11:18:32 AM  

eyeq360: Sodoku is an actual six-letter word in the Japanese language.


...which would have been spelled correctly if that had been the word he intended. To put it more succinctly, so FARKing what?
 
2013-02-11 11:19:44 AM  
NSCSB

Back in 1996 I had a major head injury (assault that led to a cerebral hemotomah) but refused surgery (aka ran out of the hospital when they said they were going to saw open my skull).  Some bs happened and I lost custody of my daughter and a couple months later being that I was having issues with communicating with people (language skills were off), making decisions (would basically do whatever the last person told me to do and would mentally shutdown when I was forced to make a decision for myself), they tried to get me declared mentally incompetent by taking an IQ and personality tests at some mental hospital in B'ham, AL.

Ironically that backfired on them as I scored a 159, 159 and 160 on the different tests they gave me (tested me multiple times and the tests only went to 160).  Of course the MRI around the same time said that approximately 20% of my brain was "dead" due to the injury and other areas had more activity than normal.  According to the neurologists I should have been an invalid or dead.

Before the assault I had tested a 148 (as a teen after a suicide attempt while drugged out of my mind) but at the time had a photographic memory and could do calculus in my head with minor note scribble by plugging numbers and not going through the formula. I can no longer do any of that and I'm down to english as my only language vs knowing 4 before the assault.  Not only that but my personality completely changed in the 2 years after the assault.  Where I was assertive, decisive (and a smartass douchebag) I am the complete opposite now.  Hell one of the most difficult things I do is try to figure out what I want for lunch now.

Granted I'm not stupid but I am nowhere near "genius" level IMO.  Plus the personality tests are complete and utter bullshiat.  Honestly I think i should have made a 70 at best as at the time I was extremely retarded and probably would have scored a 0 on the common sense test if they had one.  If the tests were accurate I think i would be in the 110-120 range now (last test was 138 4 years ago but I rushed through the last bit of it so I could go smoke). IMO IQ tests are bullshiat and are negative common sense tests at best.  (Everyone else I have known who scores high has hardly any common sense)  Of course I'm guilty of that sometimes as well.
 
2013-02-11 11:20:22 AM  

RexTalionis: andrewagill: /Last I checked, my IQ was 140.
//On one part of the test (I think the verbal IQ), I scored "off the charts", which caps out at 160.
///Was a LONG time ago.

Oh, great, IQ braggers.


My previous post was pointing out the flaw in taking a number like IQ out of context.  Her IQ is not terribly impressive for that age, but I didn't want people to say ``Oh, he's dumping on the meaningless little number because his meaningless little number is low.''

IQ (in the US at least) has a long and storied history that originates in a darker portion of our past.  It's not a terribly useful number for anything.  Real mental power is something that comes out of many factors, including working memory, the ability to remember new things, the ability to make deductions from things you know, and the ability to make inferences from things you do and do not know.

Even here, I'm speaking from an old white dude perspective.  There are many areas of mental power that are not covered in an IQ test and never could be.  IQ tests typically cover logical, mathematical, spatial, and linguistic areas.  What about musical, interpersonal, intrapersonal, somatic, naturalistic or existential intelligence?  Those are some areas that Wikipedia suggests are other aspects of ``multiple intelligence theory.''

If you want to look at some things from the logical/mathematical/spatial/lingustic areas that seem to be ignored in IQ tests, try these on for size:

LSAT Logical Reasoning
LSAT Analytical Reasoning
Miller Analogies Test (probably a little bit familiar, since analogies are in the SAT)
GMAT Multi-Source Reasoning
 
2013-02-11 11:20:33 AM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Sorta like how a penis thread is where microphallics go to snark about guys with big dicks.


Or a Hummer thread is where microwallets go to pretend that they have a bigger dick than Hummer drivers.
 
2013-02-11 11:23:13 AM  

EyeForgot: NSCSB

Back in 1996 I had a major head injury (assault that led to a cerebral hemotomah) but refused surgery (aka ran out of the hospital when they said they were going to saw open my skull).  Some bs happened and I lost custody of my daughter and a couple months later being that I was having issues with communicating with people (language skills were off), making decisions (would basically do whatever the last person told me to do and would mentally shutdown when I was forced to make a decision for myself), they tried to get me declared mentally incompetent by taking an IQ and personality tests at some mental hospital in B'ham, AL.

Ironically that backfired on them as I scored a 159, 159 and 160 on the different tests they gave me (tested me multiple times and the tests only went to 160).  Of course the MRI around the same time said that approximately 20% of my brain was "dead" due to the injury and other areas had more activity than normal.  According to the neurologists I should have been an invalid or dead.

Before the assault I had tested a 148 (as a teen after a suicide attempt while drugged out of my mind) but at the time had a photographic memory and could do calculus in my head with minor note scribble by plugging numbers and not going through the formula. I can no longer do any of that and I'm down to english as my only language vs knowing 4 before the assault.  Not only that but my personality completely changed in the 2 years after the assault.  Where I was assertive, decisive (and a smartass douchebag) I am the complete opposite now.  Hell one of the most difficult things I do is try to figure out what I want for lunch now.

Granted I'm not stupid but I am nowhere near "genius" level IMO.  Plus the personality tests are complete and utter bullshiat.  Honestly I think i should have made a 70 at best as at the time I was extremely retarded and probably would have scored a 0 on the common sense test if they had one.  If the tests were accurate I think i w ...


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2013-02-11 11:23:43 AM  
eyeq360:

Sodoku is an actual six-letter word in the Japanese language.  It means "rat poison," but refers to a disease caused by rat bites.  In particular, rat bite fever caused by the spirillum minus bacteria.  The symptoms are pretty minor like headache and malaise, but the complications include heart problems, hepatitis, and enlarged spleen.  Not as bad as Hantavirus.

Check out the big spleen on Brad!
 
2013-02-11 11:26:11 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: So that means people who are 0 years old have an infinite IQ!


I've seen you on Fark long enough to know that you know this, but yes.  This is almost exactly the sort of bullshiat that any logical analysis of an IQ test would lead you to.

/Still trying to get through Gravity's Rainbow.
 
2013-02-11 11:26:24 AM  

maxx2112: Ever hang out with Mensans?  Didja want to kill them after two minutes?


/ stop with the farkin' puns!


Yes and Yes

Grew up in those "gifted" programs and advanced studies classes.  Got to go to a Mensa dinner at one point.

Using obscure words that have the same meaning as more common ones doesn't make you come off as smart, it makes you come off as an uppity dickbag.  I think a higher measure of intelligence is knowing how to interact with the world.  Using higher forms of language in your book club meeting = okay.  Doing so to the waitstaff at your Mensa meeting = douchey.
 
2013-02-11 11:27:45 AM  
davidmazouzhome.com

*Politely unimpressed*
 
2013-02-11 11:27:48 AM  

serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.


any number can of course come next, HOWEVER, its about any number using current "normal" considerations.

ie.  that obviously prime numbers in our context.. and the context the test would be written under.  However, a real genius may just find a new number that given proper logical explanation is correct... but NOT what the test is looking for.

Ive tested at 172 myself...
 
2013-02-11 11:28:34 AM  
so apparently being bilingual and able to read Aesop's Fables is enough to get into Mensa these days. Talk about lowering the bar. Sheesh
 
2013-02-11 11:31:02 AM  

kvinesknows: serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.

any number can of course come next, HOWEVER, its about any number using current "normal" considerations.

ie.  that obviously prime numbers in our context.. and the context the test would be written under.  However, a real genius may just find a new number that given proper logical explanation is correct... but NOT what the test is looking for.

Ive tested at 172 myself...


172 isn't prime either ;)
 
2013-02-11 11:37:07 AM  

kvinesknows: serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.

any number can of course come next, HOWEVER, its about any number using current "normal" considerations.

ie.  that obviously prime numbers in our context.. and the context the test would be written under.  However, a real genius may just find a new number that given proper logical explanation is correct... but NOT what the test is looking for.


New Scientist ran a "super-high-IQ tests" article a while back, and a few people wrote in demonstrating exactly that, that number sequence questions can have all sorts of valid answers.

Nine is not a prime number by the way. And a number sequence question where the answer is "oh, these are prime numbers" is really a question on trivia, not reasoning, isn't it?
 
2013-02-11 11:38:07 AM  

Wellon Dowd: abhorrent1: So just like a penis thread, this is where everyone lies about how big their IQ is?

/no one cares what your IQ is
//no one believes you either

My IQ is 9. I had one girl break up with me because she was so sore afterwards; she just couldn't take a hard thinking.


Dude, you're supposed gently ease your IQ inside, a little bit at a time, maybe even tease her with it a little. You don't just go cramming all 9 points into her all at once, no wonder she couldn't take it.
 
2013-02-11 11:38:39 AM  

Three former preschool geniuses

www.famouspictures.org

and


kootation.com

 
2013-02-11 11:40:02 AM  

kvinesknows: serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.

any number can of course come next, HOWEVER, its about any number using current "normal" considerations.

ie.  that obviously prime numbers in our context.. and the context the test would be written under.  However, a real genius may just find a new number that given proper logical explanation is correct... but NOT what the test is looking for.

Ive tested at 172 myself...


A real genius would have noticed that 9 is not a prime number.
 
2013-02-11 11:42:58 AM  

maxx2112: Ever hang out with Mensans?  Didja want to kill them after two minutes?


/ stop with the farkin' puns!


Not a Mensan, but what's wrong with puts? It's fun to do back and forth puns with another who's good at it.

/Then again, I like being challenged to think on my feet.
 
2013-02-11 11:57:48 AM  

SevenizGud: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Sorta like how a penis thread is where microphallics go to snark about guys with big dicks.

Or a Hummer thread is where microwallets go to pretend that they have a bigger dick than Hummer drivers.


So what you're saying is, you have a tiny dick?
 
2013-02-11 11:58:07 AM  
Folks who are tossing around triple digits numbers on here don't know what they're talking about.  If you say you got a "160" or a "172," then you obviously aren't aware that there are a multitude of IQ tests and metrics out there, very few of which rely on definitive numbers; in fact, most of them rely on percentile scores.  Having a 172 IQ, for example, don't mean diddly if most people who take the test score 195.  If you want to brag on about how smart you are, or how high your IQ is, it would be best if it didn't look like you took an online "figure out you IQ in five minutes" test.

\worked with neuropsychologist
\\and his psychometrist
 
2013-02-11 11:59:36 AM  

Felgraf: maxx2112: Ever hang out with Mensans?  Didja want to kill them after two minutes?

/ stop with the farkin' puns!

Not a Mensan, but what's wrong with puts? It's fun to do back and forth puns with another who's good at it.

/Then again, I like being challenged to think on my feet.


Nuttin' wrong with puns in moderation.  It's the constant oneupsmanship that's annoying.  You're in a room full with of smart people trying to prove they're the smartest person in the group (or at least they're smarter than you).

I went to a Rush tour opener last year with a rocket scientist (literally), an economist and a philosopher.  All Mensa-level brilliant guys.  You know what we talked about most of the time?  Titties and beer . . . (and our prostates . . . we are in our forties).  I'm sure some awful puns were dropped, but we didn't spend our time trying to top one another.

The puns are just a symptom of something deeper.
 
2013-02-11 12:03:15 PM  

EyeForgot: Hell one of the most difficult things I do is try to figure out what I want for lunch now.


just go with pizza.
 
2013-02-11 12:03:58 PM  

RexTalionis: People make the mistake of thinking that IQ is some sort of permanent and unchanging characteristic about you. It's more like your belt size - it can fluctuate over time.


So you're saying I'm getting smarter?
 
2013-02-11 12:04:13 PM  
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

"You have tested at Genius."

/who else around here has a 12" IQ?
 
2013-02-11 12:05:41 PM  
did you guys know that any number above 123124257568567456456242321125346667356831 odd and even flip?

Its little things like that, that they dont have on IQ tests represented properly.
 
2013-02-11 12:10:47 PM  
My older brother is extremely smart. Our parents constantly fawned over how smart he is. I'm also very smart, just not quite as smart as my brother. Basically, I'm Ron Weasley to my brother's Harry Potter. It was quite a surprise when we grew up and began making real life choices and I and our parents discovered my brother has zero common sense. To put it in D&D terms, my brother has an Int 16 and a Wis 8. I have Int 14 and Wis 16. Comparing our lives and quality of life, this is obvious. (No, I won't go into specifics.) and the fact that "Harry" doesn't know he has a Wis 8 is further proof he has a Wis 8. He's the stupidest smart person I know./p>
 
2013-02-11 12:13:37 PM  

RexTalionis: I find that the identified "prodigies" tend to either go on to great works or utterly burn out before they leave their teens and go and do something else instead - or they go insane and/or commit suicide. Mostly the latter two, very rarely the former.

Then again, Mensa is filled with a bunch of self-proclaimed geniuses who sit around doing nothing for the benefit of the world except for Sodoku and Crossword puzzles, so I don't take much stock in them.


When I was in High School, during my senior year, one of the first things the psychology teacher did was have the entire class take an old Mensa entrance exam.  Most people didn't get it.  Over the course of the semester, we would take smaller practice quizzes, practice solving logic problems, etc.

At the end of the semester, we took a new Mensa exam.  75-80% of the class scored high enough to get in.  The teacher's point was that:  1)Mensa is complete and total bullshiat and 2)Don't trust any metric that defines how "smart" you are.
 
2013-02-11 12:16:30 PM  

maxx2112: Nuttin' wrong with puns in moderation.  It's the constant oneupsmanship that's annoying.  You're in a room full with of smart people trying to prove they're the smartest person in the group (or at least they're smarter than you).


So... essentially... you're saying Mensans are like hipsters. Except more original wordplay, and fewer song quotes and fawning over bands.
 
2013-02-11 12:16:32 PM  
Ha! Even Mensans can't stand other Mensans. If you compare local membership levels versus actual event attendance it's obvious. There is invariably multiple pig farkers there trying to feel important but you get that anywhere you go.
 
2013-02-11 12:18:40 PM  
I'd like to swap some of my 165 IQ points for a job.
 
2013-02-11 12:31:08 PM  
I have heard that MENSA is basically a huge singles club populated by men hoping to find smart women
but only finding other egotistical men.
 
2013-02-11 12:31:31 PM  

andrewagill: Tyrone Slothrop: So that means people who are 0 years old have an infinite IQ!

I've seen you on Fark long enough to know that you know this, but yes.  This is almost exactly the sort of bullshiat that any logical analysis of an IQ test would lead you to.

/Still trying to get through Gravity's Rainbow.


Don't be afraid to skim over the more esoteric parts on your first read. If you like the book, you can pick them back up on a second go through.
 
2013-02-11 12:33:54 PM  
I'm prety sure typoe has an e at the end, dumassmitter.
 
2013-02-11 12:33:54 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I have heard that MENSA is basically a huge singles club populated by men hoping to find smart women
but only finding other egotistical men.


and one young girl.........
 
2013-02-11 12:34:13 PM  
no 26 minutes? i am dissapoint.
 
2013-02-11 12:39:45 PM  

serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.


12, 15

(nothing +1)(+1)(+1)(+2)(+2)(+2)(+3)(+3)(etc)

I only tested at 137 on the MENSA pretest about 10 years back...didn't bother with the proctored one (cost 35-50 bucks).
 
2013-02-11 12:39:55 PM  
130. i'd trade some point for not having ADD and having a drive.

my two sons both were tested at 110. The oldest is skipping high school and starting college instead of 9th grade. he enjoys learning and putting ideas together. he works at it. up all night doing his homework and going down rabbit holes and tangents when learning.

the younger boy has a phenomenal memory (better than the older one). doesn't give a crap about his grades. only correcting everyone else when they are wrong. one grade behind the older one right now and has the teachers the older one had last year and spends less than 10% of his time on the homework.

wish i could have one tone down a bit and one tone up.
 
2013-02-11 12:48:08 PM  

Millennium: What test did she take, I wonder? Different tests will yield different results, which even Mensa acknowledges: the IQ threshold is different depending on what test you take.


This. When my parents had me tested in order to get into gifted class and there was a 25 point swing between the three tests. My parents never told me what I actually scored until after I graduated from high school.
 
2013-02-11 12:56:43 PM  
My god fark just breaks the bell curve on IQ level now doesn't it?

Tanukis - 110 is the average score and nothing wrong with it.  IQ and Achievement are not the same.  I've seen enough people with barely average IQ's do amazing things because their achievement level is through the roof because they try the hardest.  Then you get people that score in the 130s that think they are all that and just do nothing with it.
 
2013-02-11 01:07:37 PM  

TNel: My god fark just breaks the bell curve on IQ level now doesn't it?

Tanukis - 110 is the average score and nothing wrong with it.  IQ and Achievement are not the same.  I've seen enough people with barely average IQ's do amazing things because their achievement level is through the roof because they try the hardest.  Then you get people that score in the 130s that think they are all that and just do nothing with it.


Well, the average is 100, by definition, but the tests have error bars on them.  It depends on which test you're taking, but usually IQ scores of 90-109 are considered average.
 
2013-02-11 01:09:03 PM  
I don't know my IQ, never have.  But I did once roll a hard 18 Intelligence for my wizard.
 
2013-02-11 01:12:51 PM  

Cythraul: Despite the fact that we live in a society that generally tends to place great value on having a high intellect...

Where do you live?
 
2013-02-11 01:14:54 PM  

kvinesknows: DjangoStonereaver: I have heard that MENSA is basically a huge singles club populated by men hoping to find smart women
but only finding other egotistical men.

and one young girl.........


i21.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-11 01:18:21 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: Using obscure words that have the same meaning as more common ones doesn't make you come off as smart, it makes you come off as an uppity dickbag. I think a higher measure of intelligence is knowing how to interact with the world. Using higher forms of language in your book club meeting = okay. Doing so to the waitstaff at your Mensa meeting = douchey.


It depends: there's a difference between having a big vocabulary and knowing how to really use it. An obscure word at the right time can indeed sound intelligent, even when it sounds ridiculous in other contexts, but only if it's done right.
 
2013-02-11 01:19:49 PM  
High IQ, Member of Mensa as a teenager (thought it would look good on a college application)......lifetime of pretty bad economic choices and relationship choices.

I can honestly say that I wish I could have a 20 pt lower IQ and obtain some happiness.  The worst part about being smart is that you can analyze how miserable you are.  Self awareness is a curse.
 
2013-02-11 01:26:30 PM  
If this moron can get into Mensa, I'm not surprised a three-year-old might.
thewalktv.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-11 01:31:07 PM  

czetie: kvinesknows: serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.

any number can of course come next, HOWEVER, its about any number using current "normal" considerations.

ie.  that obviously prime numbers in our context.. and the context the test would be written under.  However, a real genius may just find a new number that given proper logical explanation is correct... but NOT what the test is looking for.

Ive tested at 172 myself...

A real genius would have noticed that 9 is not a prime number.


Funny part is my original intent was to list prime numbers, but I had a stupid moment.  Guess we know where I fall on the genius scale.
 
2013-02-11 01:41:05 PM  

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: I wish there was an "ex-Mensa" club I could join. Seems all the cool people do Mensa for a year, then quit cos it's ghey.


There's three groups of people:
1 - Too dumb to join MENSA
2 - MENSA members
3 - People smart enough to realize that MENSA is a scam and not to waste their money on it
 
2013-02-11 01:45:26 PM  
OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_
 
2013-02-11 01:47:42 PM  

jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_



Jenny I got your number?
 
2013-02-11 01:49:29 PM  

blindking: High IQ, Member of Mensa as a teenager (thought it would look good on a college application)......lifetime of pretty bad economic choices and relationship choices.

I can honestly say that I wish I could have a 20 pt lower IQ and obtain some happiness.  The worst part about being smart is that you can analyze how miserable you are.  Self awareness is a curse.



IQ doesn't really correlate with success. A random sample of high IQ people and a random sample general population will have the same level of success.
In fact, the average IQ of the US has been increasing since they invented the IQ measure.
Many highly sucessful people have been shown to have average or below average IQ. A sampling of intellectual professions doesn't show a higher IQ than a lesser intellectual profession.
IQ is one of those American things; a myth blown up by mass media. IQ should rest with the spinach and iron thing but people believe in IQ.
 
2013-02-11 01:51:06 PM  

jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_


8, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 3 

Too easy. 2 and 0 come next if you want me to continue further.
 
2013-02-11 02:01:02 PM  
Genius is honestly an overrated term. Never really liked it. I've dealt with incredibly high IQ people who never did jack squat, and really fairly dumb people who made a real difference through hard work. The ideal is to combine the IQ and hard work but the statistical probability of that happening is on par with drawing 3 honestly dealt royal flushes in a row from one deck of cards. All the talent in the world means nothing if you do nothing with it.

Folks like Einstein, Oppenheimer and the like are rare not because of their IQ. If you take the world population on a statistical curve you'll find lots of people with their IQ numerically. What should be noted is how many died, didn't get educated or had other events derail their ability to make a contribution. Once you account for all the things that could end the path you have a very tiny minority who become anything at all. Out of those, figure a percentage will actively take steps to keep themselves unknown and off the radar. Then you have the few left who are IQ and hard work combined. That's why they get remembered, not for the IQ but the deeds which were facilitated by the IQ.
 
2013-02-11 02:02:25 PM  

Supes: jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_

8, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 3 

Too easy. 2 and 0 come next if you want me to continue further.


Very good. This proves that you are at least as smart as me.
 
2013-02-11 02:02:30 PM  

kvinesknows: serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.

any number can of course come next, HOWEVER, its about any number using current "normal" considerations.

ie.  that obviously prime numbers in our context.. and the context the test would be written under.  However, a real genius may just find a new number that given proper logical explanation is correct... but NOT what the test is looking for.

Ive tested at 172 myself...


9 isn't prime, genius.
 
2013-02-11 02:27:21 PM  

jaylectricity: Supes: jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_

8, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 3 

Too easy. 2 and 0 come next if you want me to continue further.

Very good. This proves that you are at least as smart as me.


Or a googler.
 
2013-02-11 03:01:49 PM  
9th grade geometry class, teacher was doing "riddles". Wrote a bunch of number patterns on her projector screen. finally stumped the class with: O,T,T,F,F,S,S,_,_,_

took me a few minutes to figure that one out.
 
2013-02-11 03:03:05 PM  

bigheadface: 9th grade geometry class, teacher was doing "riddles". Wrote a bunch of number patterns on her projector screen. finally stumped the class with: O,T,T,F,F,S,S,_,_,_

took me a few minutes to figure that one out.


ENT?
 
2013-02-11 03:09:16 PM  
Very nicely done, sub.
 
2013-02-11 03:24:10 PM  
Mensa does this ever few months or so for free publicity. Seriously, do a news search for them. Best part is you can see exactly where they're trying to grow membership by gender and ethnicity by their picks as well.
 
2013-02-11 03:32:18 PM  

Donnchadha: bigheadface: 9th grade geometry class, teacher was doing "riddles". Wrote a bunch of number patterns on her projector screen. finally stumped the class with: O,T,T,F,F,S,S,_,_,_

took me a few minutes to figure that one out.

ENT?


Yup
 
2013-02-11 03:39:59 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Remember, if you want to boast about the enormous size of your IQ in one of these threads, ...


Many people are employing the tips and techniques that you suggest.
Lots of self-hobbling going on in here.
 
2013-02-11 03:54:41 PM  

iron_city_ap: When I was 2 I spoke french, german, russian and chineese equally well. I also taught my younger sister things (like pain). I didn't get some fancy piece of paper.


That's nothing, I spoke french, german, russian, chinese, english AND tamil equally well, on the day I was BORN.
 
2013-02-11 03:57:30 PM  

jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_


Any 3 numbers. For any number sequence, there's a curve formula that will fit it.
 
2013-02-11 04:06:55 PM  

serial_crusher: Funny part is my original intent was to list prime numbers, but I had a stupid moment. Guess we know where I fall on the genius scale.


I guessed as much.

Then I wasted an hour trying to come up with some "reasonable" answer that would fit anyway. Guess we know where I fall on the "practical application of intelligence" scale.
 
2013-02-11 04:15:01 PM  
I am not sure, how the answer to a riddle  makes you smarter than memorizing a sequence.
Really I don't... sorry
 
2013-02-11 04:15:41 PM  
What number comes next: Cupcake, Brownie, Tart, ______
 
2013-02-11 04:19:09 PM  

Nightenstaff: What number comes next: Cupcake, Brownie, Tart, ______


sugar high
 
2013-02-11 04:29:55 PM  

Nightenstaff: What number comes next: Cupcake, Brownie, Tart, ______


Type 2.
 
2013-02-11 04:52:38 PM  

bigheadface: Donnchadha: bigheadface: 9th grade geometry class, teacher was doing "riddles". Wrote a bunch of number patterns on her projector screen. finally stumped the class with: O,T,T,F,F,S,S,_,_,_

took me a few minutes to figure that one out.

ENT?

Yup


Did it win you an invitation to  Fermat's Room ?

/don't lose the PDA!
 
2013-02-11 04:54:48 PM  
1 also is not prime.
 
2013-02-11 05:12:14 PM  
Ignorance is bliss.

I should know.
 
xcv
2013-02-11 05:54:08 PM  

mr0x: blindking: High IQ, Member of Mensa as a teenager (thought it would look good on a college application)......lifetime of pretty bad economic choices and relationship choices.

I can honestly say that I wish I could have a 20 pt lower IQ and obtain some happiness.  The worst part about being smart is that you can analyze how miserable you are.  Self awareness is a curse.


IQ doesn't really correlate with success. A random sample of high IQ people and a random sample general population will have the same level of success.
In fact, the average IQ of the US has been increasing since they invented the IQ measure.

 A sampling of intellectual professions doesn't show a higher IQ than a lesser intellectual profession.


 Source? Yes, high IQ individuals from lower socioeconomic backgrounds can have fewer opportunities for intellectual achievement; they do end up in lesser intellectual professions. But all other things being equal, there's studies that demonstrate early childhood IQ scores to be an excellent indicator of future levels of academic achievement. Some professions have an average IQ that is considerably above the general population's score. So do contemporary serial killers for that matter, helps an outlaw's career longevity if he can consistently outsmart lower-IQ cops.
 
2013-02-11 06:55:48 PM  
Children's IQs aren't comporable to adults or even teenagers. Meaning that just because that is her IQ now doesn't mean it will be the same when she's older. Basically, big frakkin' deal.
 
2013-02-11 07:33:28 PM  
its a girl; im confused.  so mensa has no math questions on its exams?
 
2013-02-11 08:03:38 PM  
My 3-year-old today took a dump in the toilet and then filled it so full of toilet paper, it overflowed.  Then she kept flushing and adding more toilet paper to "clean it up."  What does that score on a MENSA test?
 
2013-02-11 08:06:01 PM  

serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.


12,15,18.
 
2013-02-11 09:46:05 PM  

Cythraul: Despite the fact that we live in a society that generally tends to place great value on having a high intellect, I can't help but think of a three year old with such a high IQ as being a freak show. Assuming the child is capable of performing on an intellectual level of an adult, of course.


Really? Where do you live?
 
2013-02-11 09:49:32 PM  

Hoboclown: What does it say about Mensa, or having a high IQ in general, if a three year old can do it? Does it really mean being good at solving puzzles while having no actual knowledge of the world?


If the article is to be believed that kid is actually gifted.
 
2013-02-11 09:52:26 PM  

nmemkha: IQ tests test specific knowledge and abstract reasoning, not intellect.

I am programmer with a high IQ. My mechanic step-father has a low one.  Who do you want working on your car?

Here's a harder one: do you want uneducated but experienced construction workers building your house, or the architects and structural engineers that designed it?


That's a coincidence. I'm a programmer with a low IQ. My (refrigeration) mechanic father is a right wing dickhead.

Abstract reasoning is actually intellect. Knowledge is not.
 
2013-02-11 10:09:01 PM  
I scored 139 in the 80's and I'm a total loser.  IQ means fark-all.
 
2013-02-11 10:23:42 PM  

jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_



Sqrt(2),  3↑↑↑↑↑i, li(F206)

Too easy.
 
2013-02-11 11:14:58 PM  
Well, this means that she'll have a Brit accent.  That's good, cuz no one would listen to the smart things what comes out of her pie hole unless it's said with a Brittish accent.
 
2013-02-12 01:07:48 AM  

Iluvbeer: My 3-year-old today took a dump in the toilet and then filled it so full of toilet paper, it overflowed.  Then she kept flushing and adding more toilet paper to "clean it up."  What does that score on a MENSA test?


That mommy and daddy probably smoked a lot of crack and live next to a lead smelting plant.
 
2013-02-12 02:56:20 AM  

mrlewish: MindStalker: nmemkha: IQ tests test specific knowledge and abstract reasoning, not intellect.

I am programmer with a high IQ. My mechanic step-father has a low one.  Who do you want working on your car?

Here's a harder one: do you want uneducated but experienced construction workers building your house, or the architects and structural engineers that designed it?

Honestly? The structural engineer, maybe with the help of a construction worker. Sure it will take more time, but he's not going to take the shortcuts that the construction worker took.

//Could I afford to have this happen? No.

Apparently you don't know how construction works. The experienced construction worker will make it safer and better than the structural engineer would. The word "experienced" is the power word in this context.


Sounds to me like you've never worked with structural engineers.
 
2013-02-12 04:52:08 AM  

xcv: Source? Yes, high IQ individuals from lower socioeconomic backgrounds can have fewer opportunities for intellectual achievement; they do end up in lesser intellectual professions. But all other things being equal, there's studies that demonstrate early childhood IQ scores to be an excellent indicator of future levels of academic achievement. Some professions have an average IQ that is considerably above the general population's score. So do contemporary serial killers for that matter, helps an outlaw's career longevity if he can consistently outsmart lower-IQ cops.



No, no. There is a study done that proves exactly the opposite.


There was a long term study done by a professor in the 60s and 70s (I don't remember his name but it's in Gladwell's book and others) where he picked the highest IQ students in school and followed them through life. He believed that those students he picked would be the most successful people but it didn't happen. His sample of high IQ students did no better than any other randomly chosen sample.

Also, IQ scores can increase with practice. So, high IQ means nothing more than more practice in the areas it measures.

For the real world, IQ measures something but it's very unclear what it really measures. There are correlations but it's useless because it measures after the fact. It's like saying good hockey players have high skating quotient and measuring someone's skating quotient to determine how good a hockey player they can be is useless.
 
2013-02-12 08:24:23 AM  

Iluvbeer: My 3-year-old today took a dump in the toilet and then filled it so full of toilet paper, it overflowed.  Then she kept flushing and adding more toilet paper to "clean it up."  What does that score on a MENSA test?


That's easy. Post evidence on your Facebook and divide the number of likes by total number of friends.
 
2013-02-12 08:25:08 AM  

maxx2112: I went to a Rush tour opener last year with a rocket scientist (literally), an economist and a philosopher. All Mensa-level brilliant guys. You know what we talked about most of the time? Titties and beer . . . (and our prostates . . . we are in our forties). I'm sure some awful puns were dropped, but we didn't spend our time trying to top one another.


NTTAWWT
 
2013-02-12 08:27:44 AM  

mccallcl: Crazy that we still have to test for this. Is modern neuroscience still so completely in the dark that even with high-resolution MRI technology they can't tell us simple things like "is this our person's smart"?


FTFY

/I'm just so response-y today.
 
2013-02-12 12:35:28 PM  

mccallcl: Crazy that we still have to test for this. Is modern neuroscience still so completely in the dark that even with high-resolution MRI technology they can't tell us simple things like "is this person smart"?


high-resolution MRI technology does not work that way.jpg
 
2013-02-12 12:47:26 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Somebody is going to be a social pariah. She'll probably still be a virgin when she graduates from preschool.


cache.jezebel.com
 
2013-02-12 01:14:15 PM  

Tanukis_Parachute: The oldest is skipping high school and starting college instead of 9th grade


I always felt that kids starting university at that young of an age were at a severe social disadvantage.  He will have literally nothing in common with his peers and will struggle to form any meaningful friendships or relationships.
 
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