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(Short List)   Three-year-old joins Mensa after her IQ scores higher than Stephen Hawking. Meanwhile Subby, 32, is so dum he's probably managed a typo somewhere in this submmision   (shortlist.com) divider line 150
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2013-02-11 01:14:54 PM

kvinesknows: DjangoStonereaver: I have heard that MENSA is basically a huge singles club populated by men hoping to find smart women
but only finding other egotistical men.

and one young girl.........


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2013-02-11 01:18:21 PM

DoBeDoBeDo: Using obscure words that have the same meaning as more common ones doesn't make you come off as smart, it makes you come off as an uppity dickbag. I think a higher measure of intelligence is knowing how to interact with the world. Using higher forms of language in your book club meeting = okay. Doing so to the waitstaff at your Mensa meeting = douchey.


It depends: there's a difference between having a big vocabulary and knowing how to really use it. An obscure word at the right time can indeed sound intelligent, even when it sounds ridiculous in other contexts, but only if it's done right.
 
2013-02-11 01:19:49 PM
High IQ, Member of Mensa as a teenager (thought it would look good on a college application)......lifetime of pretty bad economic choices and relationship choices.

I can honestly say that I wish I could have a 20 pt lower IQ and obtain some happiness.  The worst part about being smart is that you can analyze how miserable you are.  Self awareness is a curse.
 
2013-02-11 01:26:30 PM
If this moron can get into Mensa, I'm not surprised a three-year-old might.
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2013-02-11 01:31:07 PM

czetie: kvinesknows: serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.

any number can of course come next, HOWEVER, its about any number using current "normal" considerations.

ie.  that obviously prime numbers in our context.. and the context the test would be written under.  However, a real genius may just find a new number that given proper logical explanation is correct... but NOT what the test is looking for.

Ive tested at 172 myself...

A real genius would have noticed that 9 is not a prime number.


Funny part is my original intent was to list prime numbers, but I had a stupid moment.  Guess we know where I fall on the genius scale.
 
2013-02-11 01:41:05 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: I wish there was an "ex-Mensa" club I could join. Seems all the cool people do Mensa for a year, then quit cos it's ghey.


There's three groups of people:
1 - Too dumb to join MENSA
2 - MENSA members
3 - People smart enough to realize that MENSA is a scam and not to waste their money on it
 
2013-02-11 01:45:26 PM
OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_
 
2013-02-11 01:47:42 PM

jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_



Jenny I got your number?
 
2013-02-11 01:49:29 PM

blindking: High IQ, Member of Mensa as a teenager (thought it would look good on a college application)......lifetime of pretty bad economic choices and relationship choices.

I can honestly say that I wish I could have a 20 pt lower IQ and obtain some happiness.  The worst part about being smart is that you can analyze how miserable you are.  Self awareness is a curse.



IQ doesn't really correlate with success. A random sample of high IQ people and a random sample general population will have the same level of success.
In fact, the average IQ of the US has been increasing since they invented the IQ measure.
Many highly sucessful people have been shown to have average or below average IQ. A sampling of intellectual professions doesn't show a higher IQ than a lesser intellectual profession.
IQ is one of those American things; a myth blown up by mass media. IQ should rest with the spinach and iron thing but people believe in IQ.
 
2013-02-11 01:51:06 PM

jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_


8, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 3 

Too easy. 2 and 0 come next if you want me to continue further.
 
2013-02-11 02:01:02 PM
Genius is honestly an overrated term. Never really liked it. I've dealt with incredibly high IQ people who never did jack squat, and really fairly dumb people who made a real difference through hard work. The ideal is to combine the IQ and hard work but the statistical probability of that happening is on par with drawing 3 honestly dealt royal flushes in a row from one deck of cards. All the talent in the world means nothing if you do nothing with it.

Folks like Einstein, Oppenheimer and the like are rare not because of their IQ. If you take the world population on a statistical curve you'll find lots of people with their IQ numerically. What should be noted is how many died, didn't get educated or had other events derail their ability to make a contribution. Once you account for all the things that could end the path you have a very tiny minority who become anything at all. Out of those, figure a percentage will actively take steps to keep themselves unknown and off the radar. Then you have the few left who are IQ and hard work combined. That's why they get remembered, not for the IQ but the deeds which were facilitated by the IQ.
 
2013-02-11 02:02:25 PM

Supes: jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_

8, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 3 

Too easy. 2 and 0 come next if you want me to continue further.


Very good. This proves that you are at least as smart as me.
 
2013-02-11 02:02:30 PM

kvinesknows: serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.

any number can of course come next, HOWEVER, its about any number using current "normal" considerations.

ie.  that obviously prime numbers in our context.. and the context the test would be written under.  However, a real genius may just find a new number that given proper logical explanation is correct... but NOT what the test is looking for.

Ive tested at 172 myself...


9 isn't prime, genius.
 
2013-02-11 02:27:21 PM

jaylectricity: Supes: jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_

8, 5, 4, 9, 1, 7, 6, 3 

Too easy. 2 and 0 come next if you want me to continue further.

Very good. This proves that you are at least as smart as me.


Or a googler.
 
2013-02-11 03:01:49 PM
9th grade geometry class, teacher was doing "riddles". Wrote a bunch of number patterns on her projector screen. finally stumped the class with: O,T,T,F,F,S,S,_,_,_

took me a few minutes to figure that one out.
 
2013-02-11 03:03:05 PM

bigheadface: 9th grade geometry class, teacher was doing "riddles". Wrote a bunch of number patterns on her projector screen. finally stumped the class with: O,T,T,F,F,S,S,_,_,_

took me a few minutes to figure that one out.


ENT?
 
2013-02-11 03:09:16 PM
Very nicely done, sub.
 
2013-02-11 03:24:10 PM
Mensa does this ever few months or so for free publicity. Seriously, do a news search for them. Best part is you can see exactly where they're trying to grow membership by gender and ethnicity by their picks as well.
 
2013-02-11 03:32:18 PM

Donnchadha: bigheadface: 9th grade geometry class, teacher was doing "riddles". Wrote a bunch of number patterns on her projector screen. finally stumped the class with: O,T,T,F,F,S,S,_,_,_

took me a few minutes to figure that one out.

ENT?


Yup
 
2013-02-11 03:39:59 PM

Pocket Ninja: Remember, if you want to boast about the enormous size of your IQ in one of these threads, ...


Many people are employing the tips and techniques that you suggest.
Lots of self-hobbling going on in here.
 
2013-02-11 03:54:41 PM

iron_city_ap: When I was 2 I spoke french, german, russian and chineese equally well. I also taught my younger sister things (like pain). I didn't get some fancy piece of paper.


That's nothing, I spoke french, german, russian, chinese, english AND tamil equally well, on the day I was BORN.
 
2013-02-11 03:57:30 PM

jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_


Any 3 numbers. For any number sequence, there's a curve formula that will fit it.
 
2013-02-11 04:06:55 PM

serial_crusher: Funny part is my original intent was to list prime numbers, but I had a stupid moment. Guess we know where I fall on the genius scale.


I guessed as much.

Then I wasted an hour trying to come up with some "reasonable" answer that would fit anyway. Guess we know where I fall on the "practical application of intelligence" scale.
 
2013-02-11 04:15:01 PM
I am not sure, how the answer to a riddle  makes you smarter than memorizing a sequence.
Really I don't... sorry
 
2013-02-11 04:15:41 PM
What number comes next: Cupcake, Brownie, Tart, ______
 
2013-02-11 04:19:09 PM

Nightenstaff: What number comes next: Cupcake, Brownie, Tart, ______


sugar high
 
2013-02-11 04:29:55 PM

Nightenstaff: What number comes next: Cupcake, Brownie, Tart, ______


Type 2.
 
2013-02-11 04:52:38 PM

bigheadface: Donnchadha: bigheadface: 9th grade geometry class, teacher was doing "riddles". Wrote a bunch of number patterns on her projector screen. finally stumped the class with: O,T,T,F,F,S,S,_,_,_

took me a few minutes to figure that one out.

ENT?

Yup


Did it win you an invitation to  Fermat's Room ?

/don't lose the PDA!
 
2013-02-11 04:54:48 PM
1 also is not prime.
 
2013-02-11 05:12:14 PM
Ignorance is bliss.

I should know.
 
xcv
2013-02-11 05:54:08 PM

mr0x: blindking: High IQ, Member of Mensa as a teenager (thought it would look good on a college application)......lifetime of pretty bad economic choices and relationship choices.

I can honestly say that I wish I could have a 20 pt lower IQ and obtain some happiness.  The worst part about being smart is that you can analyze how miserable you are.  Self awareness is a curse.


IQ doesn't really correlate with success. A random sample of high IQ people and a random sample general population will have the same level of success.
In fact, the average IQ of the US has been increasing since they invented the IQ measure.

 A sampling of intellectual professions doesn't show a higher IQ than a lesser intellectual profession.


 Source? Yes, high IQ individuals from lower socioeconomic backgrounds can have fewer opportunities for intellectual achievement; they do end up in lesser intellectual professions. But all other things being equal, there's studies that demonstrate early childhood IQ scores to be an excellent indicator of future levels of academic achievement. Some professions have an average IQ that is considerably above the general population's score. So do contemporary serial killers for that matter, helps an outlaw's career longevity if he can consistently outsmart lower-IQ cops.
 
2013-02-11 06:55:48 PM
Children's IQs aren't comporable to adults or even teenagers. Meaning that just because that is her IQ now doesn't mean it will be the same when she's older. Basically, big frakkin' deal.
 
2013-02-11 07:33:28 PM
its a girl; im confused.  so mensa has no math questions on its exams?
 
2013-02-11 08:03:38 PM
My 3-year-old today took a dump in the toilet and then filled it so full of toilet paper, it overflowed.  Then she kept flushing and adding more toilet paper to "clean it up."  What does that score on a MENSA test?
 
2013-02-11 08:06:01 PM

serial_crusher: My first instinct here is to question the validity of the test.
Well, that's my first instinct for any IQ tests really.
"Complete this sequence: 1,2,3,5,7,9, __, __"
I know enough about math to know that any number can come next.  Seeing patterns where they don't necessarily exist does not make you smart.


12,15,18.
 
2013-02-11 09:46:05 PM

Cythraul: Despite the fact that we live in a society that generally tends to place great value on having a high intellect, I can't help but think of a three year old with such a high IQ as being a freak show. Assuming the child is capable of performing on an intellectual level of an adult, of course.


Really? Where do you live?
 
2013-02-11 09:49:32 PM

Hoboclown: What does it say about Mensa, or having a high IQ in general, if a three year old can do it? Does it really mean being good at solving puzzles while having no actual knowledge of the world?


If the article is to be believed that kid is actually gifted.
 
2013-02-11 09:52:26 PM

nmemkha: IQ tests test specific knowledge and abstract reasoning, not intellect.

I am programmer with a high IQ. My mechanic step-father has a low one.  Who do you want working on your car?

Here's a harder one: do you want uneducated but experienced construction workers building your house, or the architects and structural engineers that designed it?


That's a coincidence. I'm a programmer with a low IQ. My (refrigeration) mechanic father is a right wing dickhead.

Abstract reasoning is actually intellect. Knowledge is not.
 
2013-02-11 10:09:01 PM
I scored 139 in the 80's and I'm a total loser.  IQ means fark-all.
 
2013-02-11 10:23:42 PM

jaylectricity: OK, what numbers come next?

8, 5, 4, 9,1, _,_,_



Sqrt(2),  3↑↑↑↑↑i, li(F206)

Too easy.
 
2013-02-11 11:14:58 PM
Well, this means that she'll have a Brit accent.  That's good, cuz no one would listen to the smart things what comes out of her pie hole unless it's said with a Brittish accent.
 
2013-02-12 01:07:48 AM

Iluvbeer: My 3-year-old today took a dump in the toilet and then filled it so full of toilet paper, it overflowed.  Then she kept flushing and adding more toilet paper to "clean it up."  What does that score on a MENSA test?


That mommy and daddy probably smoked a lot of crack and live next to a lead smelting plant.
 
2013-02-12 02:56:20 AM

mrlewish: MindStalker: nmemkha: IQ tests test specific knowledge and abstract reasoning, not intellect.

I am programmer with a high IQ. My mechanic step-father has a low one.  Who do you want working on your car?

Here's a harder one: do you want uneducated but experienced construction workers building your house, or the architects and structural engineers that designed it?

Honestly? The structural engineer, maybe with the help of a construction worker. Sure it will take more time, but he's not going to take the shortcuts that the construction worker took.

//Could I afford to have this happen? No.

Apparently you don't know how construction works. The experienced construction worker will make it safer and better than the structural engineer would. The word "experienced" is the power word in this context.


Sounds to me like you've never worked with structural engineers.
 
2013-02-12 04:52:08 AM

xcv: Source? Yes, high IQ individuals from lower socioeconomic backgrounds can have fewer opportunities for intellectual achievement; they do end up in lesser intellectual professions. But all other things being equal, there's studies that demonstrate early childhood IQ scores to be an excellent indicator of future levels of academic achievement. Some professions have an average IQ that is considerably above the general population's score. So do contemporary serial killers for that matter, helps an outlaw's career longevity if he can consistently outsmart lower-IQ cops.



No, no. There is a study done that proves exactly the opposite.


There was a long term study done by a professor in the 60s and 70s (I don't remember his name but it's in Gladwell's book and others) where he picked the highest IQ students in school and followed them through life. He believed that those students he picked would be the most successful people but it didn't happen. His sample of high IQ students did no better than any other randomly chosen sample.

Also, IQ scores can increase with practice. So, high IQ means nothing more than more practice in the areas it measures.

For the real world, IQ measures something but it's very unclear what it really measures. There are correlations but it's useless because it measures after the fact. It's like saying good hockey players have high skating quotient and measuring someone's skating quotient to determine how good a hockey player they can be is useless.
 
2013-02-12 08:24:23 AM

Iluvbeer: My 3-year-old today took a dump in the toilet and then filled it so full of toilet paper, it overflowed.  Then she kept flushing and adding more toilet paper to "clean it up."  What does that score on a MENSA test?


That's easy. Post evidence on your Facebook and divide the number of likes by total number of friends.
 
2013-02-12 08:25:08 AM

maxx2112: I went to a Rush tour opener last year with a rocket scientist (literally), an economist and a philosopher. All Mensa-level brilliant guys. You know what we talked about most of the time? Titties and beer . . . (and our prostates . . . we are in our forties). I'm sure some awful puns were dropped, but we didn't spend our time trying to top one another.


NTTAWWT
 
2013-02-12 08:27:44 AM

mccallcl: Crazy that we still have to test for this. Is modern neuroscience still so completely in the dark that even with high-resolution MRI technology they can't tell us simple things like "is this our person's smart"?


FTFY

/I'm just so response-y today.
 
2013-02-12 12:35:28 PM

mccallcl: Crazy that we still have to test for this. Is modern neuroscience still so completely in the dark that even with high-resolution MRI technology they can't tell us simple things like "is this person smart"?


high-resolution MRI technology does not work that way.jpg
 
2013-02-12 12:47:26 PM

Wellon Dowd: Somebody is going to be a social pariah. She'll probably still be a virgin when she graduates from preschool.


cache.jezebel.com
 
2013-02-12 01:14:15 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: The oldest is skipping high school and starting college instead of 9th grade


I always felt that kids starting university at that young of an age were at a severe social disadvantage.  He will have literally nothing in common with his peers and will struggle to form any meaningful friendships or relationships.
 
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