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2013-02-11 09:36:30 AM
11 votes:
Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.
2013-02-11 10:36:30 AM
5 votes:

timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.


I don't think it's so much that people are felating Dorner, it's people are sick of the LAPD and cops in general.
2013-02-11 11:09:18 AM
4 votes:

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he

(allegedly) shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


And you're drinking the Kool-Aid.


CNN:

"And Monica Quan's father told investigators that someone identifying himself as Dorner called him Thursday and told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," the federal affidavit states. Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states."


/Be careful what you believe
2013-02-11 09:46:27 AM
4 votes:
LAPD is totally clown shoes.  Isn't there a sheriff's office or state police that could step in and take this over?  Maybe the FBI?  They've screwed up so badly that they've made a paranoid schizophrenic look relateable.
2013-02-11 04:37:42 PM
3 votes:
If you read his 'full' manifesto, there's something seriously fishy.  The first half is very consistent in its tone and agenda, while the second is all over the place and very "internet tough guy" or even 4-chanesque.  The first thing I thought when I read it was "this has to be a hoax, somebody just added this second bit to get attention for their pet causes".

Has any verifiable source attributed the full 'manifesto' to this guy?

Also, I have to add that if he is in fact doing everything the media says this guy is doing/ has done, he's a farking genius.  I'm not saying I approve of shooting Monica Quan (even if she was Chupacabra's friend and the reason why Randy threw the case, as some have alleged), or any of this sociopath's actions, but he's doing something that I thought was impossible beforehand.

First off, he supposedly got into TWO firefights with multiple police officers and won, and GOT AWAY!  When has that ever happened before?  I know he's probably using his police radio to evade their maneuvers, but that is impressive.

Second, he basically, as another farker put it, "challenged every farking cop in Southern California to a gun fight", and is somehow still alive (as far as we know).  That takes some serious balls, luck, and an archangel or two watching over you.

Basically, he's threatened "the Man", the sole legal arbiters of force, who have been both increasingly militarized and unchecked in their excesses for the past few decades, and is actually making the scariest people in the whole area lose sleep and crap themselves.  Thats impressive, even if he's a bastard for what he's doing.  You don't want to be on the receiving end of "the man".  Whether its terrorists or insurgents in the middle east or protesters in the midst of a riot police crack down, the odds of surviving an encounter with the full force of "the man" are slim to none.  The police and military and government agencies of this country don't fark around.  They bring asymmetrical force to bear, and they crack heads, bust balls, and either toss you in the slammer or kill your ass.

But not this guy.  He's one of their own, and provided he's not some elaborate psy-op, he's farking brilliant.  He spread them thin, he misdirected them to all four counties in So Cal, he made a long list that will take them immense resources to protect, and he GOT AWAY from two firefights with police, ditched his vehicle, and went ghost.

Fark him for 'killing innocents' (we still don't know the full story or even if he did it, but thats the official story), but you have to admit that what he's done is unprecedented and fascinating.  I think he probably broke down all the weapons he could and put them into a motorcycle with ample sidebags (big enough to store his sniper rifle) and then bugged out to a safe house full of MREs.  In motorcycle gear, noone can see your face or skin, and you can potentially outrun most police vehicles.  Totally not what they were looking for either.

Or they already got him and are suppressing info for some reason, or he never existed, or he's just damned lucky.  Its so hard to say.  But its really crazy to be in a freaking bruce willis/denzel washington movie... and homeboy is still out there.
2013-02-11 11:25:30 AM
3 votes:

digistil: The biggest problem for the LAPD after this whole mess is that everyone now knows the LAPD can't aim for shiat. After literally over 500 rounds fired, only four bullets hit an intended target.


Actually, no bullets hit Dorner.
2013-02-11 10:01:55 AM
3 votes:
"This is not about catching a fugitive," LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said today. "This is about preventing a future crime - likely a murder.

Because if they go unchecked. LAPD is actually going to manage to kill some innocent on the street. Please people, if you see something, say something, or else the cops will be forced to shoot another civilian. They don't like these rules any better than the rest of us, people...
2013-02-11 09:56:48 AM
3 votes:

untaken_name: GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.

It's early, yet.


Regardless of whether or not the police shoot up any more civies during this hunt, you will not be hearing about.  Police PR learned their lesson.
2013-02-11 09:55:50 AM
3 votes:

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.
2013-02-11 09:51:28 AM
3 votes:
Always thought that if you wanted to blend into any urban crowd, wear hospital scrubs, or dress up as a phone tech, tool belt, hoodie with "Comcast" etc printed on it, khaki pants, big leather boots, clipboard.

dressed that way, you are basically invisible.
2013-02-11 06:27:49 PM
2 votes:

The Irresponsible Captain: Dorner is not targeting normal people, and by getting anywhere near him I may be incurring violence from the LAPD. It would seem best to just stay out of everyone's way.


Normal people as we understand it, or "normal people" as ex-LAPD chief Daryl Gates would understand it?

"Blacks might be more likely to die from chokeholds because their arteries do not open as fast as they do on 'normal people."
-Daryl Gates

/normal person
2013-02-11 12:35:19 PM
2 votes:

hinten: I love how some Farkers are trying to use the LAPD-Dorner situation as an argument for less gun control.


You know, I have noticed how this has totally blown the media focus on Sandy Hook clear off the map. They are in complete confusion as to how to spin this.

Here is one of their heroes, one of the very people they masturbate to visions of limiting possession of firearms to. And he's gone "off the farm"! This totally puts a damper on their narrative that allowing government-sanctioned thugs assault weapons, while denying them to the average citizen, is "in the public's interest." And then the out-of-control actions of certain officers during the reaction to Dorner's one-man offensive have served to blatantly expose the fact that the police and government (and the media) aren't really all that concerned with our welfare; just establishing totalitarian control and protecting their selves at any cost.
2013-02-11 11:40:59 AM
2 votes:
I was working for the PG county COurts years ago when a serial killer started stalking PG county cops. The Cops were SCARED, and that is a very bad thing for police to be.  When they finally got a tip on who was doing it, they raided his house with a dozen swat officers and even though he was naked and asleep at the time  the suspect was beaten so badly he had brain damage afterwards.  I say "suspect" because they took down the wrong guy, the right guy struck again the next night, killing the FBI agent who was still on the case convinced PG had arrested the wrong guy, then getting into a running gun battle with cops before ending his own life with the service weapon he'd taken from his first victim.

FOr all that the cops STILL didn;t let the wrongfully arrested guy go for nearly six months swearing he must have been an accomplice or something
2013-02-11 11:28:24 AM
2 votes:

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


I read that the call was traced to Washington State and may well be a hoax.  But that tidbit has been dropped from the narrative.
2013-02-11 10:48:13 AM
2 votes:
LAPD: Help us catch this murderer!

Citizens: Who is he targeting?

LAPD: The LAPD.

Citizens: *crickets*

Don't expect much help catching the guy that's targeting your fellow officers from the people you've been pushing around for decades.
2013-02-11 10:37:24 AM
2 votes:

Farce-Side: I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."


That won't happen this time.  Only when it's inner city violence that you need to get off the books.  Dorner is an ex-cop who is targeting cops (and their families).  This is personal for the LAPD and everyone else is just collateral damage here.
2013-02-11 10:22:25 AM
2 votes:

TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Dude's just crazy. Trying to say he's a "liberal" is like saying Loughner was a "conservative". Crazy can come from anywhere.
2013-02-11 10:19:53 AM
2 votes:

TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Yeah, a Huntsman-supporting, Obama/Hillary voting, gun-toting and gun-control supporting, ex-military (and ex-cop) dude with an axe to grind against government.

Standard-issue liberal right off the Soros/LSM/Communism factory line, that is...

// at least it's not another white guy
2013-02-11 09:52:48 AM
2 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.

Opps" weren't"


No, your first statement was perfectly cromulent.
2013-02-11 09:52:11 AM
2 votes:

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


He's going to die anyways so he should find some remote location where they may never find him and blow his own brains out. This leaves the LAPD on edge forever , wondering where/when he shows up again.
2013-02-11 09:50:28 AM
2 votes:

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


Or add to that someone deciding they can take a shot at the cops and blame Dorner.
2013-02-11 09:42:34 AM
2 votes:
33-year-old former polilceman officer and Navy lieutenant who was fired by LAPD for making false accusations of police brutality against his training officer.

Way to stand up for the corrupt cops.  Just shows the media has still yet to grow a spine and stand up to the real criminal thugs in this country.

Also, who was the one saying it could be fun to call in false Dorner sightings from a payphone?  Seems like that cunning plan just might work.
2013-02-11 09:42:12 AM
2 votes:

GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.


It's early, yet.
2013-02-11 09:41:01 AM
2 votes:
LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.
2013-02-11 09:31:44 AM
2 votes:
The biggest problem for the LAPD after this whole mess is that everyone now knows the LAPD can't aim for shiat. After literally over 500 rounds fired, only four bullets hit an intended target.
2013-02-11 01:45:20 AM
2 votes:
How soon until Dornering becomes the new Swatting?
2013-02-11 02:33:35 PM
1 votes:
No one was shot.

weblogs.baltimoresun.com
"Dammit Phil! I really wanted to shoot someone today! *snif*
"It's okay Lou. We'll get another chance later."
2013-02-11 02:01:56 PM
1 votes:

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


Yup.  I figure he's sitting in a house, condo, apartment, trailer, mobile home, shack, or tent somewhere in Inglewood, Lancaster, Hemet, Santa Ana, or the middle of the freaking desert with six months worth of microwave dinners or MREs and a television.  He's waiting for them to pull the protection detail on the 50 or so folks on his hit list, which will have to happen at some point, afterwards he will attack again.  The "failed" boat hijacking and the burning of his truck are to put reasonable doubt in the cop's minds, make them think he fled to Mexico or froze to death in the mountains.  The fact that his activities so far have occurred in basically every county in Southern California also makes the size of the search area huge.

The LAPD has also helped him out tremendously by randomly shooting at newspaper delivery women.  Reduces the chances of him being turned in, for one thing.  Helps prove his point that the LAPD is out of control for another.
2013-02-11 01:33:41 PM
1 votes:
This Dorner guy seems like the perfect boogeyman to try to get people to be sympathetic towards the police.  Funny that they want so much sympathy considering what information he has about the systemic corruption in that shiathole they call the LAPD.  Also that they reopened the investigation into why he was fired, so now they can refuse any FOIA requests about it since 'it is an ongoing investigation'.  I am sure this is all coincidence though, because I always trust what the police tell me, why would they lie?
2013-02-11 01:17:30 PM
1 votes:

Ivo Shandor: Amos Quito: "And Monica Quan's father told investigators that someone identifying himself as Dorner called him Thursday and told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," the federal affidavit states. Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states."

There's a good chance that it was a prank, but there are ways of redirecting a phone call through a remote location (e.g. a hacked PBX, or an accomplice making a 3-way call on a 'burner' cell phone). I'm assuming that they tracked it through actual phone-company logs and not just caller ID since that's easily spoofed.



The call allegedly came in last THURSDAY.

CNN:


Thursday, shortly after 1 a.m. PT: LAPD officer shot in Corona

In Corona, Dorner fired at Los Angeles police officers who were assigned to protect someone connected to Dorner's threats, police said.

[...]


Thursday, about 1:35 a.m. PT: Officer killed, another shot in Riverside

Riverside police said two of its officers were shot in an ambush at an intersection. One died, the other was taken to a hospital.

Dorner was named a suspect. Riverside police said they believe Dorner drove up to the officers' vehicle, which was stopped at a stoplight, and fired at the officers with a rifle.

[...]


Thursday afternoon: Dorner's truck found on fire, police say

Investigators found Dorner's truck abandoned and burning on a forestry road near Big Bear Lake, about 100 miles east of Los Angeles, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said.

END QUOTES

Thursday was apparently a VERY BUSY DAY for Dorner.

I have to question whether he would bother to "take time out" of his hectic schedule of shooting, shooting (again), running, hiding, burning and disappearing to make such a call.

Don't you?
2013-02-11 01:16:15 PM
1 votes:

spentshells: So im reading the manifesto, why is it redacted?



Here it is : Uncensored Manifesto
2013-02-11 01:03:14 PM
1 votes:

dittybopper: Kazrath: This is also not the first time in American history that a citizen or group of citizens stood up to corrupt law enforcement.

If what Dorner mentions he wants in his manifesto actually comes to pass, it may well be the last time.  He spends a significant amount of ink arguing for an assault weapons ban.


Although it feels a bit unsporting to pick apart the reasoning of an apparently unstable individual, I can't help but chuckle at the internal logic of that section of Dorner's manifesto.  Paraphrasing heavily:

"We need tighter gun control because no citizen needs the kind of items I was able to purchase.  Now, pardon me while I attempt a guerrilla rebellion against tyrants using those very items."
2013-02-11 01:03:01 PM
1 votes:

Bontesla: Amos Quito: Magorn: I was working for the PG county COurts years ago when a serial killer started stalking PG county cops. The Cops were SCARED, and that is a very bad thing for police to be.  When they finally got a tip on who was doing it, they raided his house with a dozen swat officers and even though he was naked and asleep at the time  the suspect was beaten so badly he had brain damage afterwards.  I say "suspect" because they took down the wrong guy, the right guy struck again the next night, killing the FBI agent who was still on the case convinced PG had arrested the wrong guy, then getting into a running gun battle with cops before ending his own life with the service weapon he'd taken from his first victim.

FOr all that the cops STILL didn;t let the wrongfully arrested guy go for nearly six months swearing he must have been an accomplice or something

Admitting that you are "wrong" - that you have made a "mistake" is the LAST thing that any police agency wants to do.

Same goes for prosecutors, courts, etc.

They would MUCH rather that you rot in prison (or be executed, for that matter) than risk calling their infinite infallibility into question.

They have a "reputation" to protect.

/The system is FARKED from stem to stern

Well, it's also easier to sue or file a criminal complaint wrong doing was acknowledged.


In the end the man's injuries (as well as the trumped up burglarly charge they hung on him as a last ditch effort to CYA) cost the country about $3 million-the largest verdict in a civil trial by far against the county.  The Swat Team got investigated by the FBI (who were pissed because the cops grabbing the wrong guy-in thier view-cost them the life of one of their own)  but charges were eventually dropped because the team sucessfully stonewalled the investigation right up to the point of obstructing justice
2013-02-11 12:57:11 PM
1 votes:

orclover: untaken_name: GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.

It's early, yet.

Regardless of whether or not the police shoot up any more civies during this hunt, you will not be hearing about.  Police PR learned their lesson.


Stop perpetuating the police and media lie. Police are civilians. Watch them back the fark off when an actual soldier shows up (like they do every time I pull out a military ID). "Citizens" is a perfectly acceptable term, "civilians" is not unless you are referring to actual military police actively serving in any one of the actual military branches of service during the performance of their law enforcement duties--and no, LAPD, NYPD, Podunk County Sheriff does not qualify under any stretch of the imagination.

/cops calling citizens "civilians" is a massive pet peeve
2013-02-11 12:23:46 PM
1 votes:

Magorn: I was working for the PG county COurts years ago when a serial killer started stalking PG county cops. The Cops were SCARED, and that is a very bad thing for police to be.  When they finally got a tip on who was doing it, they raided his house with a dozen swat officers and even though he was naked and asleep at the time  the suspect was beaten so badly he had brain damage afterwards.  I say "suspect" because they took down the wrong guy, the right guy struck again the next night, killing the FBI agent who was still on the case convinced PG had arrested the wrong guy, then getting into a running gun battle with cops before ending his own life with the service weapon he'd taken from his first victim.

FOr all that the cops STILL didn;t let the wrongfully arrested guy go for nearly six months swearing he must have been an accomplice or something


Admitting that you are "wrong" - that you have made a "mistake" is the LAST thing that any police agency wants to do.

Same goes for prosecutors, courts, etc.

They would MUCH rather that you rot in prison (or be executed, for that matter) than risk calling their infinite infallibility into question.

They have a "reputation" to protect.

/The system is FARKED from stem to stern
2013-02-11 11:49:44 AM
1 votes:

TerminalEchoes: timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.

The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Huh?  There is a big difference between walking into a movie theater / mall / school shoot up random people and having a major grievance with an extremely powerful entity and doing what you feel is required to amend that grievance.

I am not justifying murder.  I am indicating that one act is crazy and pointless and the other has a point.  This is also not the first time in American history that a citizen or group of citizens stood up to corrupt law enforcement.
2013-02-11 11:45:56 AM
1 votes:

redlegrick: devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.

Well said. As it's turning out, this dude has had months to prepare, and (barring the possibility he isn't frozen to death or sucked a bullet) he's probably laying low in a place that doesn't attract much notice. What's going to really make this a show is when the copycats start crawling out of the walls.

You win one free internet, sir.


Except for the "they don't even realize it" part.  People often type one sentence too many.
2013-02-11 11:42:10 AM
1 votes:
the second half of that "manifesto"is completely fake and obviously written by someone else
2013-02-11 11:42:02 AM
1 votes:

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


I just learned that Mormons sacrifice chickens at temple.  That is animal cruelty and pure evil!

It is not hard to make up lies to demonize someone or some group of people.  No, I don't think murdering people is a good thing.  But this reaction has long been expected.  Far to many corrupt cops and one of them finally decided to lash out at the system of corruption.  I bet when the body count is complete far more "innocents" will have been shot by those hired to serve and protect than killed by the rouge officer.
2013-02-11 11:26:19 AM
1 votes:
4.bp.blogspot.com
2013-02-11 11:16:00 AM
1 votes:

dittybopper: Now consider what would happen if there were 10 Dorners, or 100 Dorners.


Can you imagine 10 Dorners walking in singin' a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an organization.  And can you, can you imagine 100 Dorners a day, I said 100 Dorners a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out.  And friends they may thinks it's a movement.
2013-02-11 11:11:43 AM
1 votes:

TerminalEchoes: BronyMedic: TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

Driving into work today, I saw a man with a real, live KKK cross insignia sticker on his bumper, and several racist and homophobic bumper stickers. And an infowars sticker, crazily enough.

I thought that man was the stupidest person I saw today, until I read your post.

Apparently someone hasn't read Dorner's manifesto. Try reading it before you have a tantrum.


Yeah, that someone being your dumb ass, apparently. Try reading it, and this time, sound out the words and follow them with your fingers like any other near-illiterate.
2013-02-11 10:55:35 AM
1 votes:
I saw a Christopher Dorner down at Trader Vic's
His head was perfect...

DIP !
2013-02-11 10:47:41 AM
1 votes:

DoctorOfLove: Always thought that if you wanted to blend into any urban crowd, wear hospital scrubs, or dress up as a phone tech, tool belt, hoodie with "Comcast" etc printed on it, khaki pants, big leather boots, clipboard.

dressed that way, you are basically invisible.


If you want to be invisible, dress up like a homeless person and start asking for spare change. No one will even look at you.
2013-02-11 10:47:30 AM
1 votes:

Robert1966: They couldn't find this?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x664]


Where do I find that? Or maybe even learn to make it it looks tasty : )
2013-02-11 10:38:46 AM
1 votes:

hinten: I love how some Farkers are trying to use the LAPD-Dorner situation as an argument for less gun control.


They should just make it illegal to kill people. That'll show him.
2013-02-11 10:38:27 AM
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neongoats: GOPinternet sites like stormfront


I am pretty sure Stormfront is outside the mainstream GOP.
2013-02-11 10:31:07 AM
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LAPD is not the world's finest, but if memory serves, I think NYPD has shot the most unarmed non-threatening citizens in recent history.
2013-02-11 10:19:36 AM
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This guy's gonna be an urban legend in no time at this rate. Eventually, Dorner sightings will be as credible as Bigfoot sightings.
2013-02-11 10:17:01 AM
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timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.


I was sitting in a diner this weekend with CNN on the tv. They were covering his accusations and manifesto with a sympathetic angle. I'd say the cable news watching public may view him somewhat favorably.

My guess is: he's disguised as a cop.
2013-02-11 10:16:57 AM
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Farce-Side: I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."


Ah, the Farenheit 451 approach.
2013-02-11 10:15:48 AM
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Probably hiding in plain site. Anyone check the police stations.
2013-02-11 10:14:31 AM
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devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


Well said. As it's turning out, this dude has had months to prepare, and (barring the possibility he isn't frozen to death or sucked a bullet) he's probably laying low in a place that doesn't attract much notice. What's going to really make this a show is when the copycats start crawling out of the walls.

You win one free internet, sir.
2013-02-11 10:13:02 AM
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Farce-Side: I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."


"Open-and-shut case, Johnson. Apparently, this [redacted] broke into the house and hung up pictures of himself everywhere. Alright, sprinkle some crack on him and let's get outta here."
2013-02-11 10:12:18 AM
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Karac: LAPD decides that a couple of Asian women match his description, and that delivering a newspaper is threatening enough to justify lethal force.  Then decide that another guy in a truck matches the description of both Dorner AND the women.


And shooting up the women (though I thought they were Hispanic) was straight up attempted murder.
2013-02-11 10:10:17 AM
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timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.


Dorner murders a few people, puts out a crazy manifesto about how the LAPD is evil and corrupt.
Most people's response: this farker's crazy.

LAPD decides that a couple of Asian women match his description, and that delivering a newspaper is threatening enough to justify lethal force.  Then decide that another guy in a truck matches the description of both Dorner AND the women.
Most people's response: OK, Dorner's a farking crazy murderer, but maybe he does have a few valid points.

Dorner doesn't have to spread his message if they'll do it for him.
2013-02-11 10:09:01 AM
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timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.


Oh, I agree.  Its also very likely that Dorner might have lied in his manifesto as well to garner sympathy and aid in this defense when caught.  People (Media/layman) have a natural tendency to make up things during dramatic times to compensate for a lack of information.

All I know now is that some ex-cop is pissed and murdered some people.
Now Law enforcement is pissed and are in a shark feeding-frenzy mode.

This will not end well
2013-02-11 10:08:56 AM
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www.screencuisine.net
2013-02-11 10:08:55 AM
1 votes:
San Bernardino police may not be shooting people but they still overreact to a ridiculous degree, like landing their helicopter to harass someone for filming them.
2013-02-11 10:06:09 AM
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mrshowrules: BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

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Seriously dude, do you get less caps for that because that's all I ever do in Fallout?


Only for that quest. If you blow off their heads, he can't ID the bodies.
2013-02-11 10:06:08 AM
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I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."
2013-02-11 10:04:30 AM
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GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.


www.worstpreviews.com
Hi, officer. Killed anybody today?

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
The day ain't over yet...
2013-02-11 09:59:23 AM
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They should be looking for a white Bronco driven by Charlie Sheen.
2013-02-11 09:54:49 AM
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GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.


They didn't kill any people last time either. Not for lack of trying though.
2013-02-11 09:50:26 AM
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tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.

Opps" weren't"


No wait I think I'm just drunk and doing other things maybe I should go to bed.
2013-02-11 09:48:31 AM
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Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.
2013-02-11 09:47:39 AM
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I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.
2013-02-11 09:46:29 AM
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The pigs are really wetting themselves over this.
2013-02-11 09:45:16 AM
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I feel sorry for that actor who looks like Dorner. I bet that guy is holed up with his own personal security team.
2013-02-11 09:34:30 AM
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Atleast no one died this time.

Awful lot of bullets in the blue truck.
2013-02-11 09:27:44 AM
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I_Am_Weasel: davidphogan: How soon until Dornering becomes the new Swatting?

Or having Dorner parties?


Just be glad it isn't a Dahmer party or a Donner party.
2013-02-11 06:21:18 AM
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Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.
 
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