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2013-02-11 10:08:55 AM  
San Bernardino police may not be shooting people but they still overreact to a ridiculous degree, like landing their helicopter to harass someone for filming them.
 
2013-02-11 10:08:56 AM  
www.screencuisine.net
 
2013-02-11 10:09:01 AM  

timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.


Oh, I agree.  Its also very likely that Dorner might have lied in his manifesto as well to garner sympathy and aid in this defense when caught.  People (Media/layman) have a natural tendency to make up things during dramatic times to compensate for a lack of information.

All I know now is that some ex-cop is pissed and murdered some people.
Now Law enforcement is pissed and are in a shark feeding-frenzy mode.

This will not end well
 
2013-02-11 10:10:17 AM  

timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.


Dorner murders a few people, puts out a crazy manifesto about how the LAPD is evil and corrupt.
Most people's response: this farker's crazy.

LAPD decides that a couple of Asian women match his description, and that delivering a newspaper is threatening enough to justify lethal force.  Then decide that another guy in a truck matches the description of both Dorner AND the women.
Most people's response: OK, Dorner's a farking crazy murderer, but maybe he does have a few valid points.

Dorner doesn't have to spread his message if they'll do it for him.
 
2013-02-11 10:12:18 AM  

Karac: LAPD decides that a couple of Asian women match his description, and that delivering a newspaper is threatening enough to justify lethal force.  Then decide that another guy in a truck matches the description of both Dorner AND the women.


And shooting up the women (though I thought they were Hispanic) was straight up attempted murder.
 
2013-02-11 10:13:02 AM  

Farce-Side: I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."


"Open-and-shut case, Johnson. Apparently, this [redacted] broke into the house and hung up pictures of himself everywhere. Alright, sprinkle some crack on him and let's get outta here."
 
2013-02-11 10:13:45 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: mrshowrules: BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x571]

Seriously dude, do you get less caps for that because that's all I ever do in Fallout?

Only for that quest. If you blow off their heads, he can't ID the bodies.


Got it.
 
2013-02-11 10:13:55 AM  
This guy?

media.theweek.com

Wait wasn't he at the Grammy's yesterday?

www.biography.com
 
2013-02-11 10:14:31 AM  

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


Well said. As it's turning out, this dude has had months to prepare, and (barring the possibility he isn't frozen to death or sucked a bullet) he's probably laying low in a place that doesn't attract much notice. What's going to really make this a show is when the copycats start crawling out of the walls.

You win one free internet, sir.
 
2013-02-11 10:15:26 AM  

timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.


The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!
 
2013-02-11 10:15:48 AM  
Probably hiding in plain site. Anyone check the police stations.
 
2013-02-11 10:16:57 AM  

Farce-Side: I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."


Ah, the Farenheit 451 approach.
 
2013-02-11 10:17:01 AM  

timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.


I was sitting in a diner this weekend with CNN on the tv. They were covering his accusations and manifesto with a sympathetic angle. I'd say the cable news watching public may view him somewhat favorably.

My guess is: he's disguised as a cop.
 
2013-02-11 10:17:35 AM  

Deep Contact: Probably hiding in plain site. Anyone check the police stations.


"I'll be back."

img32.imageshack.us
 
2013-02-11 10:19:36 AM  
This guy's gonna be an urban legend in no time at this rate. Eventually, Dorner sightings will be as credible as Bigfoot sightings.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:53 AM  

TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Yeah, a Huntsman-supporting, Obama/Hillary voting, gun-toting and gun-control supporting, ex-military (and ex-cop) dude with an axe to grind against government.

Standard-issue liberal right off the Soros/LSM/Communism factory line, that is...

// at least it's not another white guy
 
2013-02-11 10:22:25 AM  

TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Dude's just crazy. Trying to say he's a "liberal" is like saying Loughner was a "conservative". Crazy can come from anywhere.
 
2013-02-11 10:24:41 AM  

TerminalEchoes: timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.

The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


This is literally the stupidest shiat I have ever read on the Internet. And that includes the time I tried to be open minded and visit the GOPinternet sites like stormfront and freeperville.

He loves Huntsman and GHWB, clearly a raging liberal.
 
2013-02-11 10:25:57 AM  

TerminalEchoes: timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.

The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


I was going to give you 2/10, but you already got a bite.
 
2013-02-11 10:26:07 AM  

neongoats: TerminalEchoes: timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.

The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

This is literally the stupidest shiat I have ever read on the Internet. And that includes the time I tried to be open minded and visit the GOPinternet sites like stormfront and freeperville.

He loves Huntsman and GHWB, clearly a raging liberal.


They've been desperate to get this off the ground, but no one can explain why a "leftist" would abstain from voting because Huntsman didn't make the ticket.
 
2013-02-11 10:28:15 AM  

bdub77: This guy?

[media.theweek.com image 660x398]

Wait wasn't he at the Grammy's yesterday?

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


It's going to be awesome when MTV does a weeklong marathon to mourn the unfortunate passing of LL Cool J after he gets shot up "by mistake."  We might actually see some music videos!
 
2013-02-11 10:31:07 AM  
LAPD is not the world's finest, but if memory serves, I think NYPD has shot the most unarmed non-threatening citizens in recent history.
 
2013-02-11 10:31:46 AM  
I love how some Farkers are trying to use the LAPD-Dorner situation as an argument for less gun control.
 
2013-02-11 10:32:59 AM  

generallyso: San Bernardino police may not be shooting people but they still overreact to a ridiculous degree, like landing their helicopter to harass someone for filming them.


Oh nice, love the closing words, but she better be careful now.
 
2013-02-11 10:34:21 AM  

softshoes: devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.

He's going to die anyways so he should find some remote location where they may never find him and blow his own brains out. This leaves the LAPD on edge forever , wondering where/when he shows up again.


If it has to be that way it might also be nice of him if a bunch of other people were to off some random cops and he'd take the credit for it before he dies.
 
2013-02-11 10:36:30 AM  

timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.


I don't think it's so much that people are felating Dorner, it's people are sick of the LAPD and cops in general.
 
2013-02-11 10:37:24 AM  

Farce-Side: I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."


That won't happen this time.  Only when it's inner city violence that you need to get off the books.  Dorner is an ex-cop who is targeting cops (and their families).  This is personal for the LAPD and everyone else is just collateral damage here.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:27 AM  

neongoats: GOPinternet sites like stormfront


I am pretty sure Stormfront is outside the mainstream GOP.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:46 AM  

hinten: I love how some Farkers are trying to use the LAPD-Dorner situation as an argument for less gun control.


They should just make it illegal to kill people. That'll show him.
 
2013-02-11 10:40:18 AM  
a 1MM dollar reward? wow
 
2013-02-11 10:41:48 AM  

mrshowrules: BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x571]

Seriously dude, do you get less caps for that because that's all I ever do in Fallout?


Yeah, you get less because when you blow their heads off, he can't ID the bodies.

That's the only problem I had with Fallout 3 and Fallout: NV in general. In Fallout 2, even at max level, a trivial encounter could result in you getting critically hit and dying in horrific ways.

In NV, once you hit level 30 and beyond, you were literally a God among men. No one stood a chance against you except for death claws, and that was only if you never learned to kite with land mines. (Plasma mine/Satchel Charge + death claw = fun.)
 
2013-02-11 10:43:30 AM  

TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Driving into work today, I saw a man with a real, live KKK cross insignia sticker on his bumper, and several racist and homophobic bumper stickers. And an infowars sticker, crazily enough.

I thought that man was the stupidest person I saw today, until I read your post.
 
2013-02-11 10:43:43 AM  
They couldn't find this?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-11 10:43:54 AM  
Damn, I gotta go get a throwaway cell phone and start calling in sightings.  After all, I'm white, they all look alike to me, right.
 
2013-02-11 10:47:30 AM  

Robert1966: They couldn't find this?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x664]


Where do I find that? Or maybe even learn to make it it looks tasty : )
 
2013-02-11 10:47:38 AM  
I thought I kept seeing him on tv last night at the Grammys. But realized it was just LL
 
2013-02-11 10:47:41 AM  

DoctorOfLove: Always thought that if you wanted to blend into any urban crowd, wear hospital scrubs, or dress up as a phone tech, tool belt, hoodie with "Comcast" etc printed on it, khaki pants, big leather boots, clipboard.

dressed that way, you are basically invisible.


If you want to be invisible, dress up like a homeless person and start asking for spare change. No one will even look at you.
 
2013-02-11 10:48:13 AM  
LAPD: Help us catch this murderer!

Citizens: Who is he targeting?

LAPD: The LAPD.

Citizens: *crickets*

Don't expect much help catching the guy that's targeting your fellow officers from the people you've been pushing around for decades.
 
2013-02-11 10:50:45 AM  
They didn't burn the entire complex down? They are really slipping , Don't expect to impose marshal law then take my guns with that shaitty attitude.
 
2013-02-11 10:53:41 AM  

bdub77: This guy?

[media.theweek.com image 660x398]

Wait wasn't he at the Grammy's yesterday?

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


I know whose backyard I'd be hanging out in.
 
2013-02-11 10:55:35 AM  
I saw a Christopher Dorner down at Trader Vic's
His head was perfect...

DIP !
 
2013-02-11 10:58:11 AM  

BronyMedic: TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

Driving into work today, I saw a man with a real, live KKK cross insignia sticker on his bumper, and several racist and homophobic bumper stickers. And an infowars sticker, crazily enough.

I thought that man was the stupidest person I saw today, until I read your post.


Apparently someone hasn't read Dorner's manifesto. Try reading it before you have a tantrum.
 
2013-02-11 11:04:43 AM  

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


Yep.

Now consider what would happen if there were 10 Dorners, or 100 Dorners.

Eventually, he is going to lose.  It's inevitable that any single person will get caught or killed, unless he pulls off a magic disappearing act.  Pretty much the only way I can see this dragging on forever is if he manages to kill himself in a way that his body won't be found.  If he does that, people will be looking over their shoulders for decades to come, never quite sure if he'll turn up again or not.
 
2013-02-11 11:07:40 AM  

BronyMedic: mrshowrules: BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x571]

Seriously dude, do you get less caps for that because that's all I ever do in Fallout?

Yeah, you get less because when you blow their heads off, he can't ID the bodies.

That's the only problem I had with Fallout 3 and Fallout: NV in general. In Fallout 2, even at max level, a trivial encounter could result in you getting critically hit and dying in horrific ways.

In NV, once you hit level 30 and beyond, you were literally a God among men. No one stood a chance against you except for death claws, and that was only if you never learned to kite with land mines. (Plasma mine/Satchel Charge + death claw = fun.)


I have all IV and NV with all expansion packs.  I've seriously overdosed on this game.  Can't wait for the next one (rumours say it will be Boston).
 
2013-02-11 11:09:18 AM  

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he

(allegedly) shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


And you're drinking the Kool-Aid.


CNN:

"And Monica Quan's father told investigators that someone identifying himself as Dorner called him Thursday and told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," the federal affidavit states. Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states."


/Be careful what you believe
 
2013-02-11 11:10:22 AM  
No one except a golden retriever. Police just can't help themselves.
 
2013-02-11 11:11:08 AM  

Amos Quito: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he (allegedly) shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


And you're drinking the Kool-Aid.


CNN:

"And Monica Quan's father told investigators that someone identifying himself as Dorner called him Thursday and told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," the federal affidavit states. Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states."


/Be careful what you believe


I believe I am going to start drinking earlier than usual today.
 
2013-02-11 11:11:14 AM  
So im reading the manifesto, why is it redacted? What value could anything this brazen psyco have to say that could possibly affect the manhunt? Nothing, don't worry about that citizen just place your gun in the box and the taxes in the envelope
 
2013-02-11 11:11:36 AM  

redlegrick: As it's turning out, this dude has had months to prepare, and (barring the possibility he isn't frozen to death or sucked a bullet) he's probably laying low in a place that doesn't attract much notice.


Spree killers always prepare ahead of time.  For some it may only be a few days, for some weeks, months, or even years.   Anders Breivik in Norway spent years planning his attacks and building up his arsenal.

The difference here is that Dorner has at least some knowledge of asymmetric warfare from his military training *AND* because he was a police officer, he knows how they are going to respond.  He can effectively yank their chain because he knows their strengths, and can thus avoid or minimize them as much as possible, and he also knows their weaknesses, and he can exploit those.
 
2013-02-11 11:11:43 AM  

TerminalEchoes: BronyMedic: TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

Driving into work today, I saw a man with a real, live KKK cross insignia sticker on his bumper, and several racist and homophobic bumper stickers. And an infowars sticker, crazily enough.

I thought that man was the stupidest person I saw today, until I read your post.

Apparently someone hasn't read Dorner's manifesto. Try reading it before you have a tantrum.


Yeah, that someone being your dumb ass, apparently. Try reading it, and this time, sound out the words and follow them with your fingers like any other near-illiterate.
 
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