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2013-02-11 01:45:20 AM  
How soon until Dornering becomes the new Swatting?
 
2013-02-11 06:21:18 AM  
Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.
 
2013-02-11 08:24:37 AM  

davidphogan: How soon until Dornering becomes the new Swatting?


Or having Dorner parties?
 
2013-02-11 08:39:41 AM  

Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.


You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-02-11 09:27:44 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: davidphogan: How soon until Dornering becomes the new Swatting?

Or having Dorner parties?


Just be glad it isn't a Dahmer party or a Donner party.
 
2013-02-11 09:31:44 AM  
The biggest problem for the LAPD after this whole mess is that everyone now knows the LAPD can't aim for shiat. After literally over 500 rounds fired, only four bullets hit an intended target.
 
2013-02-11 09:32:40 AM  
... Yet.
 
2013-02-11 09:34:30 AM  
Atleast no one died this time.

Awful lot of bullets in the blue truck.
 
2013-02-11 09:34:50 AM  
I thought he was already in jail?

static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-02-11 09:36:30 AM  
Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.
 
2013-02-11 09:36:49 AM  
www2.pictures.zimbio.com

/Considering name change
 
2013-02-11 09:40:51 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: davidphogan: How soon until Dornering becomes the new Swatting?

Or having Dorner parties?


I love having Donner parties with cute ladies... if you know what I mean.
 
2013-02-11 09:41:01 AM  
LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.
 
2013-02-11 09:42:12 AM  

GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.


It's early, yet.
 
2013-02-11 09:42:34 AM  
33-year-old former polilceman officer and Navy lieutenant who was fired by LAPD for making false accusations of police brutality against his training officer.

Way to stand up for the corrupt cops.  Just shows the media has still yet to grow a spine and stand up to the real criminal thugs in this country.

Also, who was the one saying it could be fun to call in false Dorner sightings from a payphone?  Seems like that cunning plan just might work.
 
2013-02-11 09:43:09 AM  
Probably on the way to Rome to be the new Pope.
 
2013-02-11 09:44:47 AM  
Not even a dog? Cops love to shoot dogs.
 
2013-02-11 09:45:16 AM  
I feel sorry for that actor who looks like Dorner. I bet that guy is holed up with his own personal security team.
 
2013-02-11 09:46:27 AM  
LAPD is totally clown shoes.  Isn't there a sheriff's office or state police that could step in and take this over?  Maybe the FBI?  They've screwed up so badly that they've made a paranoid schizophrenic look relateable.
 
2013-02-11 09:46:29 AM  
The pigs are really wetting themselves over this.
 
2013-02-11 09:47:28 AM  
Headline: "Police show restraint while evacuating an apartment complex after receiving a Dorner sighting. No one was shot"

FTFA: "We didn't evacuate anybody. People were just ordered to remain indoors."
 
2013-02-11 09:47:39 AM  
I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.
 
2013-02-11 09:48:31 AM  
Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.
 
2013-02-11 09:48:58 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.


Opps" weren't"
 
2013-02-11 09:49:26 AM  
We come in peace , shoot to kill.
 
2013-02-11 09:49:26 AM  

endmile: Headline: "Police show restraint while evacuating an apartment complex after receiving a Dorner sighting. No one was shot"

FTFA: "We didn't evacuate anybody. People were just ordered to remain indoors."


I bet a few residents evacuated (their bowels) when the LAPD rolled up guns drawn.
 
2013-02-11 09:50:26 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.

Opps" weren't"


No wait I think I'm just drunk and doing other things maybe I should go to bed.
 
2013-02-11 09:50:28 AM  

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


Or add to that someone deciding they can take a shot at the cops and blame Dorner.
 
2013-02-11 09:50:43 AM  

endmile: Headline: "Police show restraint while evacuating an apartment complex after receiving a Dorner sighting. No one was shot"

FTFA: "We didn't evacuate anybody. People were just ordered to remain indoors."


At first glance I read that as "ejaculate."  Maybe that's how the LAPD will win back the public's trust.

"Are you Christopher Dorner?"

"Um, no, I'm an Asian guy."

"My mistake.  Pull your junk out.  I owe you a handy.  Oh, my...I see why they call you Wang.  Congratulations, sir."
 
2013-02-11 09:51:28 AM  
Always thought that if you wanted to blend into any urban crowd, wear hospital scrubs, or dress up as a phone tech, tool belt, hoodie with "Comcast" etc printed on it, khaki pants, big leather boots, clipboard.

dressed that way, you are basically invisible.
 
2013-02-11 09:52:11 AM  

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


He's going to die anyways so he should find some remote location where they may never find him and blow his own brains out. This leaves the LAPD on edge forever , wondering where/when he shows up again.
 
2013-02-11 09:52:16 AM  
Come on guys, the 400 lb black guy might have disguised himself as two Asian women.
 
2013-02-11 09:52:48 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.

Opps" weren't"


No, your first statement was perfectly cromulent.
 
2013-02-11 09:54:49 AM  

GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.


They didn't kill any people last time either. Not for lack of trying though.
 
2013-02-11 09:55:50 AM  

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.
 
2013-02-11 09:56:39 AM  

Mikey1969: GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.

They didn't kill any people last time either. Not for lack of trying though.


So what you're saying is... their not even trying anymore?
 
2013-02-11 09:56:48 AM  

untaken_name: GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.

It's early, yet.


Regardless of whether or not the police shoot up any more civies during this hunt, you will not be hearing about.  Police PR learned their lesson.
 
2013-02-11 09:58:41 AM  

softshoes: devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.

He's going to die anyways so he should find some remote location where they may never find him and blow his own brains out. This leaves the LAPD on edge forever , wondering where/when he shows up again.


I think he should show up on the Venice Pier with a gym bag and just wait for shiat to happen.
 
2013-02-11 09:58:43 AM  

Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.


The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.
 
2013-02-11 09:59:23 AM  
They should be looking for a white Bronco driven by Charlie Sheen.
 
2013-02-11 10:00:05 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.

Opps" weren't"

No wait I think I'm just drunk and doing other things maybe I should go to bed.


No!! That's exactly what they WANT you to believe!!!
 
2013-02-11 10:00:33 AM  

HAMMERTOE: tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.

Opps" weren't"

No, your first statement was perfectly cromulent.


LoL, and I'm still perfectly drunk so...
/What's wrong with being drunk ask a glass of water ; )
 
2013-02-11 10:01:44 AM  

tommyl66: tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: I'm really surprised no innocent people or trucks were shot at overnight.

Opps" weren't"

No wait I think I'm just drunk and doing other things maybe I should go to bed.

No!! That's exactly what they WANT you to believe!!!


LoL ; ) I might be thinkin' it too.
 
2013-02-11 10:01:55 AM  
"This is not about catching a fugitive," LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said today. "This is about preventing a future crime - likely a murder.

Because if they go unchecked. LAPD is actually going to manage to kill some innocent on the street. Please people, if you see something, say something, or else the cops will be forced to shoot another civilian. They don't like these rules any better than the rest of us, people...
 
2013-02-11 10:03:05 AM  

neversubmit: Mikey1969: GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.

They didn't kill any people last time either. Not for lack of trying though.

So what you're saying is... their not even trying anymore?


No, theyt're just not very good at it. Give 'em time, they'll get around to killing someone.
 
2013-02-11 10:03:51 AM  

BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x571]


Seriously dude, do you get less caps for that because that's all I ever do in Fallout?
 
2013-02-11 10:04:30 AM  

GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.


www.worstpreviews.com
Hi, officer. Killed anybody today?

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
The day ain't over yet...
 
2013-02-11 10:05:05 AM  
they should search Feinstein's house
 
2013-02-11 10:06:08 AM  
I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."
 
2013-02-11 10:06:09 AM  

mrshowrules: BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x571]

Seriously dude, do you get less caps for that because that's all I ever do in Fallout?


Only for that quest. If you blow off their heads, he can't ID the bodies.
 
2013-02-11 10:08:55 AM  
San Bernardino police may not be shooting people but they still overreact to a ridiculous degree, like landing their helicopter to harass someone for filming them.
 
2013-02-11 10:08:56 AM  
www.screencuisine.net
 
2013-02-11 10:09:01 AM  

timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.


Oh, I agree.  Its also very likely that Dorner might have lied in his manifesto as well to garner sympathy and aid in this defense when caught.  People (Media/layman) have a natural tendency to make up things during dramatic times to compensate for a lack of information.

All I know now is that some ex-cop is pissed and murdered some people.
Now Law enforcement is pissed and are in a shark feeding-frenzy mode.

This will not end well
 
2013-02-11 10:10:17 AM  

timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.


Dorner murders a few people, puts out a crazy manifesto about how the LAPD is evil and corrupt.
Most people's response: this farker's crazy.

LAPD decides that a couple of Asian women match his description, and that delivering a newspaper is threatening enough to justify lethal force.  Then decide that another guy in a truck matches the description of both Dorner AND the women.
Most people's response: OK, Dorner's a farking crazy murderer, but maybe he does have a few valid points.

Dorner doesn't have to spread his message if they'll do it for him.
 
2013-02-11 10:12:18 AM  

Karac: LAPD decides that a couple of Asian women match his description, and that delivering a newspaper is threatening enough to justify lethal force.  Then decide that another guy in a truck matches the description of both Dorner AND the women.


And shooting up the women (though I thought they were Hispanic) was straight up attempted murder.
 
2013-02-11 10:13:02 AM  

Farce-Side: I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."


"Open-and-shut case, Johnson. Apparently, this [redacted] broke into the house and hung up pictures of himself everywhere. Alright, sprinkle some crack on him and let's get outta here."
 
2013-02-11 10:13:45 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: mrshowrules: BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x571]

Seriously dude, do you get less caps for that because that's all I ever do in Fallout?

Only for that quest. If you blow off their heads, he can't ID the bodies.


Got it.
 
2013-02-11 10:13:55 AM  
This guy?

media.theweek.com

Wait wasn't he at the Grammy's yesterday?

www.biography.com
 
2013-02-11 10:14:31 AM  

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


Well said. As it's turning out, this dude has had months to prepare, and (barring the possibility he isn't frozen to death or sucked a bullet) he's probably laying low in a place that doesn't attract much notice. What's going to really make this a show is when the copycats start crawling out of the walls.

You win one free internet, sir.
 
2013-02-11 10:15:26 AM  

timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.


The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!
 
2013-02-11 10:15:48 AM  
Probably hiding in plain site. Anyone check the police stations.
 
2013-02-11 10:16:57 AM  

Farce-Side: I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."


Ah, the Farenheit 451 approach.
 
2013-02-11 10:17:01 AM  

timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.


I was sitting in a diner this weekend with CNN on the tv. They were covering his accusations and manifesto with a sympathetic angle. I'd say the cable news watching public may view him somewhat favorably.

My guess is: he's disguised as a cop.
 
2013-02-11 10:17:35 AM  

Deep Contact: Probably hiding in plain site. Anyone check the police stations.


"I'll be back."

img32.imageshack.us
 
2013-02-11 10:19:36 AM  
This guy's gonna be an urban legend in no time at this rate. Eventually, Dorner sightings will be as credible as Bigfoot sightings.
 
2013-02-11 10:19:53 AM  

TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Yeah, a Huntsman-supporting, Obama/Hillary voting, gun-toting and gun-control supporting, ex-military (and ex-cop) dude with an axe to grind against government.

Standard-issue liberal right off the Soros/LSM/Communism factory line, that is...

// at least it's not another white guy
 
2013-02-11 10:22:25 AM  

TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Dude's just crazy. Trying to say he's a "liberal" is like saying Loughner was a "conservative". Crazy can come from anywhere.
 
2013-02-11 10:24:41 AM  

TerminalEchoes: timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.

The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


This is literally the stupidest shiat I have ever read on the Internet. And that includes the time I tried to be open minded and visit the GOPinternet sites like stormfront and freeperville.

He loves Huntsman and GHWB, clearly a raging liberal.
 
2013-02-11 10:25:57 AM  

TerminalEchoes: timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.

The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


I was going to give you 2/10, but you already got a bite.
 
2013-02-11 10:26:07 AM  

neongoats: TerminalEchoes: timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.

The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

This is literally the stupidest shiat I have ever read on the Internet. And that includes the time I tried to be open minded and visit the GOPinternet sites like stormfront and freeperville.

He loves Huntsman and GHWB, clearly a raging liberal.


They've been desperate to get this off the ground, but no one can explain why a "leftist" would abstain from voting because Huntsman didn't make the ticket.
 
2013-02-11 10:28:15 AM  

bdub77: This guy?

[media.theweek.com image 660x398]

Wait wasn't he at the Grammy's yesterday?

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


It's going to be awesome when MTV does a weeklong marathon to mourn the unfortunate passing of LL Cool J after he gets shot up "by mistake."  We might actually see some music videos!
 
2013-02-11 10:31:07 AM  
LAPD is not the world's finest, but if memory serves, I think NYPD has shot the most unarmed non-threatening citizens in recent history.
 
2013-02-11 10:31:46 AM  
I love how some Farkers are trying to use the LAPD-Dorner situation as an argument for less gun control.
 
2013-02-11 10:32:59 AM  

generallyso: San Bernardino police may not be shooting people but they still overreact to a ridiculous degree, like landing their helicopter to harass someone for filming them.


Oh nice, love the closing words, but she better be careful now.
 
2013-02-11 10:34:21 AM  

softshoes: devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.

He's going to die anyways so he should find some remote location where they may never find him and blow his own brains out. This leaves the LAPD on edge forever , wondering where/when he shows up again.


If it has to be that way it might also be nice of him if a bunch of other people were to off some random cops and he'd take the credit for it before he dies.
 
2013-02-11 10:36:30 AM  

timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.


I don't think it's so much that people are felating Dorner, it's people are sick of the LAPD and cops in general.
 
2013-02-11 10:37:24 AM  

Farce-Side: I'm waiting for them to just kill some other black guy and then call the search off with a "Tango down! We got him, no need to worry citizen."


That won't happen this time.  Only when it's inner city violence that you need to get off the books.  Dorner is an ex-cop who is targeting cops (and their families).  This is personal for the LAPD and everyone else is just collateral damage here.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:27 AM  

neongoats: GOPinternet sites like stormfront


I am pretty sure Stormfront is outside the mainstream GOP.
 
2013-02-11 10:38:46 AM  

hinten: I love how some Farkers are trying to use the LAPD-Dorner situation as an argument for less gun control.


They should just make it illegal to kill people. That'll show him.
 
2013-02-11 10:40:18 AM  
a 1MM dollar reward? wow
 
2013-02-11 10:41:48 AM  

mrshowrules: BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x571]

Seriously dude, do you get less caps for that because that's all I ever do in Fallout?


Yeah, you get less because when you blow their heads off, he can't ID the bodies.

That's the only problem I had with Fallout 3 and Fallout: NV in general. In Fallout 2, even at max level, a trivial encounter could result in you getting critically hit and dying in horrific ways.

In NV, once you hit level 30 and beyond, you were literally a God among men. No one stood a chance against you except for death claws, and that was only if you never learned to kite with land mines. (Plasma mine/Satchel Charge + death claw = fun.)
 
2013-02-11 10:43:30 AM  

TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Driving into work today, I saw a man with a real, live KKK cross insignia sticker on his bumper, and several racist and homophobic bumper stickers. And an infowars sticker, crazily enough.

I thought that man was the stupidest person I saw today, until I read your post.
 
2013-02-11 10:43:43 AM  
They couldn't find this?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-11 10:43:54 AM  
Damn, I gotta go get a throwaway cell phone and start calling in sightings.  After all, I'm white, they all look alike to me, right.
 
2013-02-11 10:47:30 AM  

Robert1966: They couldn't find this?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x664]


Where do I find that? Or maybe even learn to make it it looks tasty : )
 
2013-02-11 10:47:38 AM  
I thought I kept seeing him on tv last night at the Grammys. But realized it was just LL
 
2013-02-11 10:47:41 AM  

DoctorOfLove: Always thought that if you wanted to blend into any urban crowd, wear hospital scrubs, or dress up as a phone tech, tool belt, hoodie with "Comcast" etc printed on it, khaki pants, big leather boots, clipboard.

dressed that way, you are basically invisible.


If you want to be invisible, dress up like a homeless person and start asking for spare change. No one will even look at you.
 
2013-02-11 10:48:13 AM  
LAPD: Help us catch this murderer!

Citizens: Who is he targeting?

LAPD: The LAPD.

Citizens: *crickets*

Don't expect much help catching the guy that's targeting your fellow officers from the people you've been pushing around for decades.
 
2013-02-11 10:50:45 AM  
They didn't burn the entire complex down? They are really slipping , Don't expect to impose marshal law then take my guns with that shaitty attitude.
 
2013-02-11 10:53:41 AM  

bdub77: This guy?

[media.theweek.com image 660x398]

Wait wasn't he at the Grammy's yesterday?

[www.biography.com image 402x402]


I know whose backyard I'd be hanging out in.
 
2013-02-11 10:55:35 AM  
I saw a Christopher Dorner down at Trader Vic's
His head was perfect...

DIP !
 
2013-02-11 10:58:11 AM  

BronyMedic: TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

Driving into work today, I saw a man with a real, live KKK cross insignia sticker on his bumper, and several racist and homophobic bumper stickers. And an infowars sticker, crazily enough.

I thought that man was the stupidest person I saw today, until I read your post.


Apparently someone hasn't read Dorner's manifesto. Try reading it before you have a tantrum.
 
2013-02-11 11:04:43 AM  

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


Yep.

Now consider what would happen if there were 10 Dorners, or 100 Dorners.

Eventually, he is going to lose.  It's inevitable that any single person will get caught or killed, unless he pulls off a magic disappearing act.  Pretty much the only way I can see this dragging on forever is if he manages to kill himself in a way that his body won't be found.  If he does that, people will be looking over their shoulders for decades to come, never quite sure if he'll turn up again or not.
 
2013-02-11 11:07:40 AM  

BronyMedic: mrshowrules: BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x571]

Seriously dude, do you get less caps for that because that's all I ever do in Fallout?

Yeah, you get less because when you blow their heads off, he can't ID the bodies.

That's the only problem I had with Fallout 3 and Fallout: NV in general. In Fallout 2, even at max level, a trivial encounter could result in you getting critically hit and dying in horrific ways.

In NV, once you hit level 30 and beyond, you were literally a God among men. No one stood a chance against you except for death claws, and that was only if you never learned to kite with land mines. (Plasma mine/Satchel Charge + death claw = fun.)


I have all IV and NV with all expansion packs.  I've seriously overdosed on this game.  Can't wait for the next one (rumours say it will be Boston).
 
2013-02-11 11:09:18 AM  

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he

(allegedly) shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


And you're drinking the Kool-Aid.


CNN:

"And Monica Quan's father told investigators that someone identifying himself as Dorner called him Thursday and told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," the federal affidavit states. Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states."


/Be careful what you believe
 
2013-02-11 11:10:22 AM  
No one except a golden retriever. Police just can't help themselves.
 
2013-02-11 11:11:08 AM  

Amos Quito: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he (allegedly) shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


And you're drinking the Kool-Aid.


CNN:

"And Monica Quan's father told investigators that someone identifying himself as Dorner called him Thursday and told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," the federal affidavit states. Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states."


/Be careful what you believe


I believe I am going to start drinking earlier than usual today.
 
2013-02-11 11:11:14 AM  
So im reading the manifesto, why is it redacted? What value could anything this brazen psyco have to say that could possibly affect the manhunt? Nothing, don't worry about that citizen just place your gun in the box and the taxes in the envelope
 
2013-02-11 11:11:36 AM  

redlegrick: As it's turning out, this dude has had months to prepare, and (barring the possibility he isn't frozen to death or sucked a bullet) he's probably laying low in a place that doesn't attract much notice.


Spree killers always prepare ahead of time.  For some it may only be a few days, for some weeks, months, or even years.   Anders Breivik in Norway spent years planning his attacks and building up his arsenal.

The difference here is that Dorner has at least some knowledge of asymmetric warfare from his military training *AND* because he was a police officer, he knows how they are going to respond.  He can effectively yank their chain because he knows their strengths, and can thus avoid or minimize them as much as possible, and he also knows their weaknesses, and he can exploit those.
 
2013-02-11 11:11:43 AM  

TerminalEchoes: BronyMedic: TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

Driving into work today, I saw a man with a real, live KKK cross insignia sticker on his bumper, and several racist and homophobic bumper stickers. And an infowars sticker, crazily enough.

I thought that man was the stupidest person I saw today, until I read your post.

Apparently someone hasn't read Dorner's manifesto. Try reading it before you have a tantrum.


Yeah, that someone being your dumb ass, apparently. Try reading it, and this time, sound out the words and follow them with your fingers like any other near-illiterate.
 
2013-02-11 11:14:50 AM  
I figured this guy was dead in the woods by now. If not I doubt he'll be found like that tard that did all the bombings, hid for years and then was found dumpster diving.
 
2013-02-11 11:15:06 AM  

LarryDan43: No one except a golden retriever. Police just can't help themselves.


What's all this then? Shooting up trucks is one thing, killing golden retrievers is another level of evil entirely.
 
2013-02-11 11:16:00 AM  

dittybopper: Now consider what would happen if there were 10 Dorners, or 100 Dorners.


Can you imagine 10 Dorners walking in singin' a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an organization.  And can you, can you imagine 100 Dorners a day, I said 100 Dorners a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out.  And friends they may thinks it's a movement.
 
2013-02-11 11:17:05 AM  

dittybopper: Pretty much the only way I can see this dragging on forever is if he manages to kill himself in a way that his body won't be found. If he does that, people will be looking over their shoulders for decades to come, never quite sure if he'll turn up again or not.


The best possible outcome for Dorner. He's not going to get a fair trial (though having basically admitted the crimes already, it may be "fair but predetermined"), the insanity defense is not likely, and whatever message he wants to send is lost when he's in legirons and that ghastly shade of orange.

On the lam, he's the cops' worst nightmare (though if he's to be believed, only 5-10 of them, and maybe families as well).

// who wants to bet that - even if the media dig into the claims the manifesto makes and they're found to be accurate - nothing in the culture at the LAPD changes as a result?
 
2013-02-11 11:19:52 AM  

GanjSmokr: dittybopper: Now consider what would happen if there were 10 Dorners, or 100 Dorners.

Can you imagine 10 Dorners walking in singin' a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an organization.  And can you, can you imagine 100 Dorners a day, I said 100 Dorners a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out.  And friends they may thinks it's a movement.


And that's what this is, the Alice's Restaurant anti-police-massacree movement, and all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar...
 
2013-02-11 11:20:38 AM  
Dorner is crazy - but even crazy people can still have a point. The LAPD is racist, and there are plenty of cops who would let you bleed out while quietly counting up all their overtime money for testifying in a fatality case.

The LAPD sure isn't helping when their officers can't distinguish between a huge black man and two hispanic women delivering papers - especially when their Weeners is a hail of bullets without so much as a "Howdy Pardner".

If they get him soon, I predict a made for TV movie. If he holds out for months and drives up the kill count, he'll get the full big screen Hollywood treatment.

/no one died - this time. Perhaps the FBI was watching?
 
2013-02-11 11:22:27 AM  
Dorner is not targeting normal people, and by getting anywhere near him I may be incurring violence from the LAPD. It would seem best to just stay out of everyone's way.
 
2013-02-11 11:23:28 AM  

BronyMedic: Bontesla: Cross racial identification has caused so many Dorner sightings. I just hope it doesn't lead to the slaying of innocent people thanks to that bounty.

You only get a tenth of the caps for a head shot, so I'd think not.

[images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 800x571]


Yeah, don't take Boone with you on those missions. He's got a tendency to head-shot his targets.

/got two full price bounties
//Boone head-shot Cook-Cook though
 
2013-02-11 11:25:30 AM  

digistil: The biggest problem for the LAPD after this whole mess is that everyone now knows the LAPD can't aim for shiat. After literally over 500 rounds fired, only four bullets hit an intended target.


Actually, no bullets hit Dorner.
 
2013-02-11 11:25:49 AM  
Hang Charlie Sheen up in a net on a busy street, tied up, and wait for him.
 
2013-02-11 11:25:53 AM  

Private_Citizen: their Weeners is a hail of bullets


[so_much_win.jpg]
 
2013-02-11 11:25:53 AM  

TerminalEchoes: Apparently someone hasn't read Dorner's manifesto. Try reading it before you have a tantrum.


Actually, I've read a few parts of it. Dorner represents the "liberals" of the United States like Tim McVeigh represented the conservatives.

To say, they don't.

Only a pants on head retard would try to equate the two.
 
2013-02-11 11:26:19 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-11 11:26:49 AM  

Bendal: /got two full price bounties
//Boone head-shot Cook-Cook though


Cook-Cook is a complete monster, though. I don't usually take anyone. I get the silenced .22 SMG and take nothing but limb shots.
 
2013-02-11 11:28:24 AM  

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


I read that the call was traced to Washington State and may well be a hoax.  But that tidbit has been dropped from the narrative.
 
2013-02-11 11:28:42 AM  
I just hope I'm not eating at Whammyburger when Dorner walks in....
 
2013-02-11 11:30:10 AM  

YixilTesiphon: Private_Citizen: their Weeners is a hail of bullets

[so_much_win.jpg]


Yeah, kind of unintentionally plays right into the whole guns as phallic symbols topic. Quite the visual too..

/Silly filter...I should have used "reaction" rather than re-spon-se.
 
2013-02-11 11:33:03 AM  
Give them time subby, they will shoot up a few more innocents before this whole thing is over.  I suspect that he is LONG out of Cali at this point.
 
2013-02-11 11:35:18 AM  
wow the second half sure is faked......
 
2013-02-11 11:38:20 AM  

BronyMedic: Bendal: /got two full price bounties
//Boone head-shot Cook-Cook though

Cook-Cook is a complete monster, though. I don't usually take anyone. I get the silenced .22 SMG and take nothing but limb shots.


I preferred Christine's silenced sniper rifle from one of the expansions myself. Just a little "thhhhp!" and they all fall down from far across the landscape...
 
2013-02-11 11:39:05 AM  

Endive Wombat: Give them time subby, they will shoot up a few more innocents before this whole thing is over.  I suspect that he is LONG out of Cali at this point.


Based on what I know of cops and manhunts, if they're looking for a large black man in a blue pickup in CA, Dorner is more likely a slight Asian woman riding a camel somewhere outside Guelph.
 
2013-02-11 11:39:52 AM  
Pretty simple. If you offer a huge reward for ANYTHING, expect a bunch of false flags. Also, anyone wanna bet that it's only a matter of time before an innocent person is shot and/or killedby a "bounty hunter" looking for this guy?
 
2013-02-11 11:40:59 AM  
I was working for the PG county COurts years ago when a serial killer started stalking PG county cops. The Cops were SCARED, and that is a very bad thing for police to be.  When they finally got a tip on who was doing it, they raided his house with a dozen swat officers and even though he was naked and asleep at the time  the suspect was beaten so badly he had brain damage afterwards.  I say "suspect" because they took down the wrong guy, the right guy struck again the next night, killing the FBI agent who was still on the case convinced PG had arrested the wrong guy, then getting into a running gun battle with cops before ending his own life with the service weapon he'd taken from his first victim.

FOr all that the cops STILL didn;t let the wrongfully arrested guy go for nearly six months swearing he must have been an accomplice or something
 
2013-02-11 11:41:22 AM  

generallyso: San Bernardino police may not be shooting people but they still overreact to a ridiculous degree, like landing their helicopter to harass someone for filming them.


If that's the best he can do, that cop needs harassment training.
 
2013-02-11 11:42:02 AM  

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


I just learned that Mormons sacrifice chickens at temple.  That is animal cruelty and pure evil!

It is not hard to make up lies to demonize someone or some group of people.  No, I don't think murdering people is a good thing.  But this reaction has long been expected.  Far to many corrupt cops and one of them finally decided to lash out at the system of corruption.  I bet when the body count is complete far more "innocents" will have been shot by those hired to serve and protect than killed by the rouge officer.
 
2013-02-11 11:42:10 AM  
the second half of that "manifesto"is completely fake and obviously written by someone else
 
2013-02-11 11:45:13 AM  

spentshells: the second half of that "manifesto"is completely fake and obviously written by someone else


Who are the conspirators and what is their motivation?
 
2013-02-11 11:45:56 AM  

redlegrick: devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.

Well said. As it's turning out, this dude has had months to prepare, and (barring the possibility he isn't frozen to death or sucked a bullet) he's probably laying low in a place that doesn't attract much notice. What's going to really make this a show is when the copycats start crawling out of the walls.

You win one free internet, sir.


Except for the "they don't even realize it" part.  People often type one sentence too many.
 
2013-02-11 11:46:46 AM  
As someone that just wasted a lot of time reading that manifesto, I have to say he lost me when he claimed Wanda Sykes is a genius.
 
2013-02-11 11:46:47 AM  
why the fark would a killer discuss how his guns were legally obtained  or discuss how they aren't meant for hunting? How would this be of any value to him while calling out arseholes for being arseholes.

Im not sure how much of this a I believe to be real or how much is a media construct, read the manifesto divide it in two then asses the entire situation again ... sad and faked at the same time.
 
2013-02-11 11:49:44 AM  

TerminalEchoes: timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.

The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!


Huh?  There is a big difference between walking into a movie theater / mall / school shoot up random people and having a major grievance with an extremely powerful entity and doing what you feel is required to amend that grievance.

I am not justifying murder.  I am indicating that one act is crazy and pointless and the other has a point.  This is also not the first time in American history that a citizen or group of citizens stood up to corrupt law enforcement.
 
2013-02-11 11:52:07 AM  

BalugaJoe: Probably on the way to Rome to be the new Pope.


That's a whole new level of corruption

Doctor Funkenstein: endmile: Headline: "Police show restraint while evacuating an apartment complex after receiving a Dorner sighting. No one was shot"

FTFA: "We didn't evacuate anybody. People were just ordered to remain indoors."

At first glance I read that as "ejaculate."  Maybe that's how the LAPD will win back the public's trust.

"Are you Christopher Dorner?"

"Um, no, I'm an Asian guy."

"My mistake.  Pull your junk out.  I owe you a handy.  Oh, my...I see why they call you Wang.  Congratulations, sir."


I see it didn't take long for this thread to spin out of control...
 
2013-02-11 11:54:28 AM  

neongoats: LarryDan43: No one except a golden retriever. Police just can't help themselves.

What's all this then? Shooting up trucks is one thing, killing golden retrievers is another level of evil entirely.


The first thing the police do when breaking into the wrong house is shoot the dog. Most often the dog is a golden retriever. If a golden is not present one will be appointed for shooting at a later date.
 
2013-02-11 11:54:51 AM  

Kazrath: This is also not the first time in American history that a citizen or group of citizens stood up to corrupt law enforcement.


If what Dorner mentions he wants in his manifesto actually comes to pass, it may well be the last time.  He spends a significant amount of ink arguing for an assault weapons ban.
 
2013-02-11 11:56:45 AM  

Mentalenemasquad: BalugaJoe: Probably on the way to Rome to be the new Pope.

That's a whole new level of corruptionDoctor Funkenstein: endmile: Headline: "Police show restraint while evacuating an apartment complex after receiving a Dorner sighting. No one was shot"

FTFA: "We didn't evacuate anybody. People were just ordered to remain indoors."

At first glance I read that as "ejaculate."  Maybe that's how the LAPD will win back the public's trust.

"Are you Christopher Dorner?"

"Um, no, I'm an Asian guy."

"My mistake.  Pull your junk out.  I owe you a handy.  Oh, my...I see why they call you Wang.  Congratulations, sir."

I see it didn't take long for this thread to spin out of control...


Well, you gotta admit: it's an unlikely candidate for lulz, but there we are.
 
2013-02-11 12:07:20 PM  

spentshells: why the fark would a killer discuss how his guns were legally obtained  or discuss how they aren't meant for hunting? How would this be of any value to him while calling out arseholes for being arseholes.

Im not sure how much of this a I believe to be real or how much is a media construct, read the manifesto divide it in two then asses the entire situation again ... sad and faked at the same time.


Blame the schools   They just teach to the tests and kids don't learn how to write anymore.

/the guy's  nuts, that's why!
 
2013-02-11 12:09:10 PM  

timswar: Gunderson: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Sometimes people distort facts to make one side look worse and sway public appearance against them.

The US Military is famous for this.  They also distort facts to make themselves looks better.  See: Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch.

Whenever there is a shiatstorm happening, things get embellished.  I remember the Media was blaming the first bombing of the WTC on a Croatian freedom fighter initially.

The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

In fact, appearanceson this board aside I would bet most people just think of this as a normal manhunt for a mass murderer.


Are you kidding?  This is Fark's new hero!  Funny how these mass murders are almost ALWAYS libtards.
 
2013-02-11 12:10:56 PM  
Found him. Where's my cash?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-11 12:14:57 PM  

davidphogan: How soon until Dornering becomes the new Swatting?


Soon as I finish dialing.... what was your address again?
 
2013-02-11 12:16:01 PM  

untaken_name: GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.

It's early, yet.


They just haven't found the bodies.
 
2013-02-11 12:16:06 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: Mentalenemasquad: BalugaJoe: Probably on the way to Rome to be the new Pope.

That's a whole new level of corruptionDoctor Funkenstein: endmile: Headline: "Police show restraint while evacuating an apartment complex after receiving a Dorner sighting. No one was shot"

FTFA: "We didn't evacuate anybody. People were just ordered to remain indoors."

At first glance I read that as "ejaculate."  Maybe that's how the LAPD will win back the public's trust.

"Are you Christopher Dorner?"

"Um, no, I'm an Asian guy."

"My mistake.  Pull your junk out.  I owe you a handy.  Oh, my...I see why they call you Wang.  Congratulations, sir."

I see it didn't take long for this thread to spin out of control...

Well, you gotta admit: it's an unlikely candidate for lulz, but there we are.


I'll take what I can get...
 
2013-02-11 12:23:46 PM  

Magorn: I was working for the PG county COurts years ago when a serial killer started stalking PG county cops. The Cops were SCARED, and that is a very bad thing for police to be.  When they finally got a tip on who was doing it, they raided his house with a dozen swat officers and even though he was naked and asleep at the time  the suspect was beaten so badly he had brain damage afterwards.  I say "suspect" because they took down the wrong guy, the right guy struck again the next night, killing the FBI agent who was still on the case convinced PG had arrested the wrong guy, then getting into a running gun battle with cops before ending his own life with the service weapon he'd taken from his first victim.

FOr all that the cops STILL didn;t let the wrongfully arrested guy go for nearly six months swearing he must have been an accomplice or something


Admitting that you are "wrong" - that you have made a "mistake" is the LAST thing that any police agency wants to do.

Same goes for prosecutors, courts, etc.

They would MUCH rather that you rot in prison (or be executed, for that matter) than risk calling their infinite infallibility into question.

They have a "reputation" to protect.

/The system is FARKED from stem to stern
 
2013-02-11 12:23:56 PM  

AcneVulgaris: untaken_name: GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.

It's early, yet.

They just haven't found the bodies.


You're a monster. Why won't you cry out for justice for the woman that Glenn Beck Raped and Murdered in 1990, sir?
 
2013-02-11 12:31:26 PM  
cdn2-b.examiner.com

Dorner (seen in red) vs the LAPD




/"Angry Bird" Dorner
//Always after the piggies
///Birth of a meme?
 
2013-02-11 12:33:06 PM  

Amos Quito: "And Monica Quan's father told investigators that someone identifying himself as Dorner called him Thursday and told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," the federal affidavit states. Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states."


There's a good chance that it was a prank, but there are ways of redirecting a phone call through a remote location (e.g. a hacked PBX, or an accomplice making a 3-way call on a 'burner' cell phone). I'm assuming that they tracked it through actual phone-company logs and not just caller ID since that's easily spoofed.
 
2013-02-11 12:35:19 PM  

hinten: I love how some Farkers are trying to use the LAPD-Dorner situation as an argument for less gun control.


You know, I have noticed how this has totally blown the media focus on Sandy Hook clear off the map. They are in complete confusion as to how to spin this.

Here is one of their heroes, one of the very people they masturbate to visions of limiting possession of firearms to. And he's gone "off the farm"! This totally puts a damper on their narrative that allowing government-sanctioned thugs assault weapons, while denying them to the average citizen, is "in the public's interest." And then the out-of-control actions of certain officers during the reaction to Dorner's one-man offensive have served to blatantly expose the fact that the police and government (and the media) aren't really all that concerned with our welfare; just establishing totalitarian control and protecting their selves at any cost.
 
2013-02-11 12:36:32 PM  

SpectroBoy: I saw a Christopher Dorner down at Trader Vic's
His head was perfect...

DIP !


This was awesome.

/Warren Zevon is missed.
 
2013-02-11 12:40:13 PM  
Dorner is actually a scientologist and is hiding at Gold Base.

OK, LAPD, go raid 'em!
 
2013-02-11 12:40:17 PM  

Amos Quito: Magorn: I was working for the PG county COurts years ago when a serial killer started stalking PG county cops. The Cops were SCARED, and that is a very bad thing for police to be.  When they finally got a tip on who was doing it, they raided his house with a dozen swat officers and even though he was naked and asleep at the time  the suspect was beaten so badly he had brain damage afterwards.  I say "suspect" because they took down the wrong guy, the right guy struck again the next night, killing the FBI agent who was still on the case convinced PG had arrested the wrong guy, then getting into a running gun battle with cops before ending his own life with the service weapon he'd taken from his first victim.

FOr all that the cops STILL didn;t let the wrongfully arrested guy go for nearly six months swearing he must have been an accomplice or something

Admitting that you are "wrong" - that you have made a "mistake" is the LAST thing that any police agency wants to do.

Same goes for prosecutors, courts, etc.

They would MUCH rather that you rot in prison (or be executed, for that matter) than risk calling their infinite infallibility into question.

They have a "reputation" to protect.

/The system is FARKED from stem to stern


Well, it's also easier to sue or file a criminal complaint wrong doing was acknowledged.
 
2013-02-11 12:50:28 PM  

Mikey1969: "This is not about catching a fugitive," LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said today. "This is about preventing a future crime - likely a murder.

Because if they go unchecked. LAPD is actually going to manage to kill some innocent on the street. Please people, if you see something, say something, or else the cops will be forced to shoot another civilian. They don't like these rules any better than the rest of us, people...


Deputy Winger?
 
2013-02-11 12:51:10 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Here is one of their heroes, one of the very people they masturbate to visions of limiting possession of firearms to. And he's gone "off the farm"! This totally puts a damper on their narrative that allowing government-sanctioned thugs assault weapons, while denying them to the average citizen, is "in the public's interest." And then the out-of-control actions of certain officers during the reaction to Dorner's one-man offensive have served to blatantly expose the fact that the police and government (and the media) aren't really all that concerned with our welfare; just establishing totalitarian control and protecting their selves at any cost.


It's also a great reason why MORE guns, MORE armed security and MORE concealed-carry hero-wannabes is not a good solution.

// two great reasons, actually - Dorner himself and all the innocent people the LAPD has shot since last week
 
2013-02-11 12:53:28 PM  

endmile: Headline: "Police show restraint while evacuating an apartment complex after receiving a Dorner sighting. No one was shot"

FTFA: "We didn't evacuate anybody. People were just ordered to remain indoors."


Also FTFA: "The occupants of one apartment unit were required to come out so that officers could make sure Dorner wasn't inside."

Definition of EVACUATE
transitive verb
1
: to remove the contents of : empty
2
: to discharge from the body as waste : void
3
: to remove something (as gas or water) from especially by pumping
4
a : to remove especially from a military zone or dangerous area
b : to withdraw from military occupation of
c : vacate
 
2013-02-11 12:56:58 PM  

fredklein: endmile: Headline: "Police show restraint while evacuating an apartment complex after receiving a Dorner sighting. No one was shot"

FTFA: "We didn't evacuate anybody. People were just ordered to remain indoors."

Also FTFA: "The occupants of one apartment unit were required to come out so that officers could make sure Dorner wasn't inside."

Definition of EVACUATE
transitive verb
1
: to remove the contents of : empty
2
: to discharge from the body as waste : void
3
: to remove something (as gas or water) from especially by pumping
4
a : to remove especially from a military zone or dangerous area
b : to withdraw from military occupation of
c : vacate


Oops, last line should be:
c : vacate <were ordered to evacuate the building>
 
2013-02-11 12:57:04 PM  

thrgd456: Dorner is actually a scientologist and is hiding at Gold Base.

OK, LAPD, go raid 'em!


Oooooooooo, I like this.  Also, I saw him hanging out at the Westboro Baptist "Church" this morning, better send a SWAT team.
 
2013-02-11 12:57:11 PM  

orclover: untaken_name: GORDON: LAPD didn't kill any innocent people this. time... that's a nice change of pace.  Variety is the spice of life.

It's early, yet.

Regardless of whether or not the police shoot up any more civies during this hunt, you will not be hearing about.  Police PR learned their lesson.


Stop perpetuating the police and media lie. Police are civilians. Watch them back the fark off when an actual soldier shows up (like they do every time I pull out a military ID). "Citizens" is a perfectly acceptable term, "civilians" is not unless you are referring to actual military police actively serving in any one of the actual military branches of service during the performance of their law enforcement duties--and no, LAPD, NYPD, Podunk County Sheriff does not qualify under any stretch of the imagination.

/cops calling citizens "civilians" is a massive pet peeve
 
2013-02-11 12:59:32 PM  

timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.


A simple laptop and finding someone's open wifi would allow him to respond. By the time the cops traced the IP, he'd be long gone.

But sometimes silence is scarier.
 
2013-02-11 01:02:33 PM  

fredklein: timswar: The internet felating of Dorner will fade eventually. Other than the initial manifesto he doesn't have anything to answer the media access the LAPD has at their disposal. Only one side is able to be heard.

A simple laptop and finding someone's open wifi would allow him to respond. By the time the cops traced the IP, he'd be long gone.

But sometimes silence is scarier.


......................BOO
 
2013-02-11 01:03:01 PM  

Bontesla: Amos Quito: Magorn: I was working for the PG county COurts years ago when a serial killer started stalking PG county cops. The Cops were SCARED, and that is a very bad thing for police to be.  When they finally got a tip on who was doing it, they raided his house with a dozen swat officers and even though he was naked and asleep at the time  the suspect was beaten so badly he had brain damage afterwards.  I say "suspect" because they took down the wrong guy, the right guy struck again the next night, killing the FBI agent who was still on the case convinced PG had arrested the wrong guy, then getting into a running gun battle with cops before ending his own life with the service weapon he'd taken from his first victim.

FOr all that the cops STILL didn;t let the wrongfully arrested guy go for nearly six months swearing he must have been an accomplice or something

Admitting that you are "wrong" - that you have made a "mistake" is the LAST thing that any police agency wants to do.

Same goes for prosecutors, courts, etc.

They would MUCH rather that you rot in prison (or be executed, for that matter) than risk calling their infinite infallibility into question.

They have a "reputation" to protect.

/The system is FARKED from stem to stern

Well, it's also easier to sue or file a criminal complaint wrong doing was acknowledged.


In the end the man's injuries (as well as the trumped up burglarly charge they hung on him as a last ditch effort to CYA) cost the country about $3 million-the largest verdict in a civil trial by far against the county.  The Swat Team got investigated by the FBI (who were pissed because the cops grabbing the wrong guy-in thier view-cost them the life of one of their own)  but charges were eventually dropped because the team sucessfully stonewalled the investigation right up to the point of obstructing justice
 
2013-02-11 01:03:14 PM  

dittybopper: Kazrath: This is also not the first time in American history that a citizen or group of citizens stood up to corrupt law enforcement.

If what Dorner mentions he wants in his manifesto actually comes to pass, it may well be the last time.  He spends a significant amount of ink arguing for an assault weapons ban.


Although it feels a bit unsporting to pick apart the reasoning of an apparently unstable individual, I can't help but chuckle at the internal logic of that section of Dorner's manifesto.  Paraphrasing heavily:

"We need tighter gun control because no citizen needs the kind of items I was able to purchase.  Now, pardon me while I attempt a guerrilla rebellion against tyrants using those very items."
 
2013-02-11 01:07:06 PM  

Lyonid: dittybopper: Kazrath: This is also not the first time in American history that a citizen or group of citizens stood up to corrupt law enforcement.

If what Dorner mentions he wants in his manifesto actually comes to pass, it may well be the last time.  He spends a significant amount of ink arguing for an assault weapons ban.

Although it feels a bit unsporting to pick apart the reasoning of an apparently unstable individual, I can't help but chuckle at the internal logic of that section of Dorner's manifesto.  Paraphrasing heavily:

"We need tighter gun control because no citizen needs the kind of items I was able to purchase.  Now, pardon me while I attempt a guerrilla rebellion against tyrants using those very items."


Heh, it is kind of funny, isn't it?
 
2013-02-11 01:15:11 PM  

hinten: I love how some Farkers are trying to use the LAPD-Dorner situation as an argument for less gun control.


Why is this a gun control argument again? Until he went nuckin futs, Dorner could have passed (and obviously did pass) any background check, including the ones suggested by the newest legislation on the table.

We're talking about a man who, at one time, held a reasonably high security clearance. Unless they completely revoked any and all clearances for cause (which I'm guessing they didn't if he was allowed to ETS properly from the Naval Reserves. In my experience in the intel field in the military, clearances can be downgraded--which his seems to have been--but once you get in to actual revocations, discharges are usually pretty quick to follow, especially when you get downgraded from the TS/SCI level, then revoked), his federal background check would have taken the full 30 days, and he would have cleared it with flying colors, even with the LAPD termination. His situation being that he was fired essentially for lying but no charges were pursued (had he actually falsified docs, which is why he was downgraded from a TS/SCI--I can almost guarantee that's the case, so that much of his manifesto is true) would indicate that LAPD had evidence of some sort that he may not have falsified the docs in question (a FOIA would prove conclusively, and I'm not inclined to push that hard). Had charges been pressed, it would have required evidence (obviously), and he'd have likely been chaptered out of the Naval Reserves (the military tends to frown on that sort of thing quite heavily) under any number of applicable chapters--generally the catch-all is "conduct unbecoming," but a JAG lawyer could give a solid list of the applicable charges, and IANAL, either military or civilian.

TL;DR--turning this into a gun debate is farking stupid. Dorner would have passed any background check, and any idiot that shoots at a cop, even in "self-defense" (because, yeah, shooting willy-nilly at anything that might possibly resemble a vehicle you think the suspect might maybe be driving is just plain stupid and those cops need to go to jail) is just plain idiotic.
 
2013-02-11 01:15:27 PM  
"This is the LAPD. We're the most hated cops in all the free world. My own mama's ashamed of me. She tells everybody I'm a drug dealer."

I think that about sums it up.
 
2013-02-11 01:16:15 PM  

spentshells: So im reading the manifesto, why is it redacted?



Here it is : Uncensored Manifesto
 
2013-02-11 01:17:30 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Amos Quito: "And Monica Quan's father told investigators that someone identifying himself as Dorner called him Thursday and told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," the federal affidavit states. Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states."

There's a good chance that it was a prank, but there are ways of redirecting a phone call through a remote location (e.g. a hacked PBX, or an accomplice making a 3-way call on a 'burner' cell phone). I'm assuming that they tracked it through actual phone-company logs and not just caller ID since that's easily spoofed.



The call allegedly came in last THURSDAY.

CNN:


Thursday, shortly after 1 a.m. PT: LAPD officer shot in Corona

In Corona, Dorner fired at Los Angeles police officers who were assigned to protect someone connected to Dorner's threats, police said.

[...]


Thursday, about 1:35 a.m. PT: Officer killed, another shot in Riverside

Riverside police said two of its officers were shot in an ambush at an intersection. One died, the other was taken to a hospital.

Dorner was named a suspect. Riverside police said they believe Dorner drove up to the officers' vehicle, which was stopped at a stoplight, and fired at the officers with a rifle.

[...]


Thursday afternoon: Dorner's truck found on fire, police say

Investigators found Dorner's truck abandoned and burning on a forestry road near Big Bear Lake, about 100 miles east of Los Angeles, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said.

END QUOTES

Thursday was apparently a VERY BUSY DAY for Dorner.

I have to question whether he would bother to "take time out" of his hectic schedule of shooting, shooting (again), running, hiding, burning and disappearing to make such a call.

Don't you?
 
2013-02-11 01:19:52 PM  

Cold_Sassy: LAPD is not the world's finest, but if memory serves, I think NYPD has shot the most unarmed non-threatening citizens in recent history.


That's because unlike the CPD the NYPD doesn't know what a wallet looks like.
 
2013-02-11 01:22:41 PM  

Amos Quito: Ivo Shandor: Amos Quito: "And Monica Quan's father told investigators that someone identifying himself as Dorner called him Thursday and told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," the federal affidavit states. Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states."

There's a good chance that it was a prank, but there are ways of redirecting a phone call through a remote location (e.g. a hacked PBX, or an accomplice making a 3-way call on a 'burner' cell phone). I'm assuming that they tracked it through actual phone-company logs and not just caller ID since that's easily spoofed.


The call allegedly came in last THURSDAY.

CNN:


Thursday, shortly after 1 a.m. PT: LAPD officer shot in Corona

In Corona, Dorner fired at Los Angeles police officers who were assigned to protect someone connected to Dorner's threats, police said.

[...]


Thursday, about 1:35 a.m. PT: Officer killed, another shot in Riverside

Riverside police said two of its officers were shot in an ambush at an intersection. One died, the other was taken to a hospital.

Dorner was named a suspect. Riverside police said they believe Dorner drove up to the officers' vehicle, which was stopped at a stoplight, and fired at the officers with a rifle.

[...]


Thursday afternoon: Dorner's truck found on fire, police say

Investigators found Dorner's truck abandoned and burning on a forestry road near Big Bear Lake, about 100 miles east of Los Angeles, San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon said.

END QUOTES

Thursday was apparently a VERY BUSY DAY for Dorner.

I have to question whether he would bother to "take time out" of his hectic schedule of shooting, shooting (again), running, hiding, burning and disappearing to make such a call.

Don't you?


I question how much is Dorner and how much is just assigned to Dorner. In general. It's all very weird.
 
2013-02-11 01:23:40 PM  

Aigoo: Why is this a gun control argument again?


Because Dorner himself argues for an expansive, renewed Assault Weapons Ban in his manifesto, even giving shout-outs to Dianne Feinstein and Joe Biden on the subject.
 
2013-02-11 01:25:07 PM  

Bontesla: question how much is Dorner and how much is just assigned to Dorner. In general. It's all very weird.


And, now doubt, he's benefiting from the confusion and possible photostat-felines out there.
 
2013-02-11 01:25:47 PM  

dittybopper: Bontesla: question how much is Dorner and how much is just assigned to Dorner. In general. It's all very weird.

And, now doubt, he's benefiting from the confusion and possible photostat-felines out there.


FTFM.
 
2013-02-11 01:25:57 PM  
Oh, how I wish that guy had been driving a silver Prius
 
2013-02-11 01:32:27 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Robert1966: They couldn't find this?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x664]

Where do I find that? Or maybe even learn to make it it looks tasty : )


Oh man, when I was in Munich, there were vendors all over the place selling them (Döner kebabs) Most delicious farking sandwich ever.
 
2013-02-11 01:33:16 PM  

Amos Quito: Thursday was apparently a VERY BUSY DAY for Dorner.

I have to question whether he would bother to "take time out" of his hectic schedule of shooting, shooting (again), running, hiding, burning and disappearing to make such a call.

Don't you?


Although that makes it seem unlikely, you'd be surprised how far you can drive in a day. Clyde Barrow (Bonnie & Clyde) was famous for marathon driving session, in which he could get to Florida from as far as Texas, in the 30s.
 
2013-02-11 01:33:41 PM  
This Dorner guy seems like the perfect boogeyman to try to get people to be sympathetic towards the police.  Funny that they want so much sympathy considering what information he has about the systemic corruption in that shiathole they call the LAPD.  Also that they reopened the investigation into why he was fired, so now they can refuse any FOIA requests about it since 'it is an ongoing investigation'.  I am sure this is all coincidence though, because I always trust what the police tell me, why would they lie?
 
2013-02-11 01:33:44 PM  

Watubi: Oh, how I wish that guy had been driving a silver Prius


You monster. My parents drive a silver Prius.

// in MD, but still
// between the LAPD and the PG County cops, my folks wouldn't last 4 hours
// and they live in MoCo!
 
2013-02-11 01:34:02 PM  

Mikey1969: "This is not about catching a fugitive," LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said today. "This is about preventing a future crime - likely a murder.

Because if they go unchecked. LAPD is actually going to manage to kill some innocent on the street. Please people, if you see something, say something, or else the cops will be forced to shoot another civilian. They don't like these rules any better than the rest of us, people...


Bahahaha.
 
2013-02-11 01:37:31 PM  
I don't know why he'd stick around LA when there are obvious targets elsewhere. Fat, doughy, slow-moving targets that you could find easily just by following the news vans.

i979.photobucket.com

Not advocating this, of course. That would be very, very wrong.
 
2013-02-11 01:42:45 PM  
From the manifesto:

Those of you who "go along to get along" have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.

/ thin blue line
 
2013-02-11 01:44:56 PM  
FTM


How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, "based on my experience and training.
 
2013-02-11 01:49:06 PM  
Just a minor notation, the police involved were SBPD, not LAPD. (subby)
 
2013-02-11 01:56:53 PM  

Source4leko: This Dorner guy seems like the perfect boogeyman to try to get people to be sympathetic towards the police.


Hmmmm.....

...

...

Wait...

...

Nope. They blew that idea with their Blitzkrieg on pickup trucks.
 
2013-02-11 02:01:56 PM  

devildog123: Well, this is working better for Dorner than he could have hoped.  He's following the classic pattern of an insurgency.  If your force is smaller, and has fewer resources, force your opponent to spend inordinate amounts of time and money trying to suppress you.  How many cops have been called in for this?  How much overtime spent?  How many man hours, dog hours, and aviation asset hours?  What isn't getting done or funded while they try to catch this guy?  In the end, they're going to wind up spending millions of dollars trying to hunt him down.  If he can keep his head down, maybe pop up every couple of weeks to take shots at a police cruiser or two, he's achieving his goals.  This is his victory, and they don't even realize it.


Yup.  I figure he's sitting in a house, condo, apartment, trailer, mobile home, shack, or tent somewhere in Inglewood, Lancaster, Hemet, Santa Ana, or the middle of the freaking desert with six months worth of microwave dinners or MREs and a television.  He's waiting for them to pull the protection detail on the 50 or so folks on his hit list, which will have to happen at some point, afterwards he will attack again.  The "failed" boat hijacking and the burning of his truck are to put reasonable doubt in the cop's minds, make them think he fled to Mexico or froze to death in the mountains.  The fact that his activities so far have occurred in basically every county in Southern California also makes the size of the search area huge.

The LAPD has also helped him out tremendously by randomly shooting at newspaper delivery women.  Reduces the chances of him being turned in, for one thing.  Helps prove his point that the LAPD is out of control for another.
 
2013-02-11 02:05:18 PM  

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


Oh, this guy is an evil murdering psychopath, no doubt about it.  However, so far he's been a successful evil murdering psychopath.
 
2013-02-11 02:07:59 PM  

HAMMERTOE: Source4leko: This Dorner guy seems like the perfect boogeyman to try to get people to be sympathetic towards the police.

Hmmmm.....

...

...

Wait...

...

Nope. They blew that idea with their Blitzkrieg on pickup trucks.


Agreed.  I should have said tried to make the perfect boogeyman.  But, being the police, they farked it up by shooting at innocent people.  What a shock.
 
2013-02-11 02:18:22 PM  

Magorn: I was working for the PG county COurts years ago when a serial killer started stalking PG county cops. The Cops were SCARED, and that is a very bad thing for police to be.  When they finally got a tip on who was doing it, they raided his house with a dozen swat officers and even though he was naked and asleep at the time  the suspect was beaten so badly he had brain damage afterwards.  I say "suspect" because they took down the wrong guy, the right guy struck again the next night, killing the FBI agent who was still on the case convinced PG had arrested the wrong guy, then getting into a running gun battle with cops before ending his own life with the service weapon he'd taken from his first victim.

FOr all that the cops STILL didn;t let the wrongfully arrested guy go for nearly six months swearing he must have been an accomplice or something


Got a name or a link? Must have missed this one.
 
2013-02-11 02:20:02 PM  

Geotpf: qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.

Oh, this guy is an evil murdering psychopath, no doubt about it.  However, so far he's been a successful evil murdering psychopath.


This.

I certain don't applaud his actions or his reasoning, and in fact, based upon his manifesto, we have some completely 180 degree differences of opinion on many things.

That doesn't mean I'm not interested in how this is going to play out.
 
2013-02-11 02:26:17 PM  
Is any of it real?
 
2013-02-11 02:33:35 PM  
No one was shot.

weblogs.baltimoresun.com
"Dammit Phil! I really wanted to shoot someone today! *snif*
"It's okay Lou. We'll get another chance later."
 
2013-02-11 02:42:41 PM  

Salmon: Is any of it real?


Somewhere between 0 and 100%.
 
2013-02-11 02:47:42 PM  
davidphogan

How soon until Dornering becomes the new Swatting?

Something doesn't ring right with those stories.

I have serious doubts that a single telephone call can bring a SWAT response.
 
2013-02-11 02:55:37 PM  

Ayn Rand's Social Worker: Salmon: Is any of it real?

Somewhere between 0 and 100%.


This just in: reports indicate Yogi Berra is inconsolable
 
2013-02-11 03:16:08 PM  

studebaker hoch: davidphogan

How soon until Dornering becomes the new Swatting?

Something doesn't ring right with those stories.

I have serious doubts that a single telephone call can bring a SWAT response.


You've obviously never seen "Cheech & Chong's Next Movie'".  You just have to say the magic words.  Back then, it was "I think they're Iranian!".  Today, it would be "I think it's Chris Dorner!".
 
2013-02-11 03:40:47 PM  
$ 1,000,000 for this????

R.I.P. DORMER

www.buffaloah.com
 
2013-02-11 04:37:42 PM  
If you read his 'full' manifesto, there's something seriously fishy.  The first half is very consistent in its tone and agenda, while the second is all over the place and very "internet tough guy" or even 4-chanesque.  The first thing I thought when I read it was "this has to be a hoax, somebody just added this second bit to get attention for their pet causes".

Has any verifiable source attributed the full 'manifesto' to this guy?

Also, I have to add that if he is in fact doing everything the media says this guy is doing/ has done, he's a farking genius.  I'm not saying I approve of shooting Monica Quan (even if she was Chupacabra's friend and the reason why Randy threw the case, as some have alleged), or any of this sociopath's actions, but he's doing something that I thought was impossible beforehand.

First off, he supposedly got into TWO firefights with multiple police officers and won, and GOT AWAY!  When has that ever happened before?  I know he's probably using his police radio to evade their maneuvers, but that is impressive.

Second, he basically, as another farker put it, "challenged every farking cop in Southern California to a gun fight", and is somehow still alive (as far as we know).  That takes some serious balls, luck, and an archangel or two watching over you.

Basically, he's threatened "the Man", the sole legal arbiters of force, who have been both increasingly militarized and unchecked in their excesses for the past few decades, and is actually making the scariest people in the whole area lose sleep and crap themselves.  Thats impressive, even if he's a bastard for what he's doing.  You don't want to be on the receiving end of "the man".  Whether its terrorists or insurgents in the middle east or protesters in the midst of a riot police crack down, the odds of surviving an encounter with the full force of "the man" are slim to none.  The police and military and government agencies of this country don't fark around.  They bring asymmetrical force to bear, and they crack heads, bust balls, and either toss you in the slammer or kill your ass.

But not this guy.  He's one of their own, and provided he's not some elaborate psy-op, he's farking brilliant.  He spread them thin, he misdirected them to all four counties in So Cal, he made a long list that will take them immense resources to protect, and he GOT AWAY from two firefights with police, ditched his vehicle, and went ghost.

Fark him for 'killing innocents' (we still don't know the full story or even if he did it, but thats the official story), but you have to admit that what he's done is unprecedented and fascinating.  I think he probably broke down all the weapons he could and put them into a motorcycle with ample sidebags (big enough to store his sniper rifle) and then bugged out to a safe house full of MREs.  In motorcycle gear, noone can see your face or skin, and you can potentially outrun most police vehicles.  Totally not what they were looking for either.

Or they already got him and are suppressing info for some reason, or he never existed, or he's just damned lucky.  Its so hard to say.  But its really crazy to be in a freaking bruce willis/denzel washington movie... and homeboy is still out there.
 
2013-02-11 05:21:26 PM  

Ayn Rand's Social Worker: If you read his 'full' manifesto, there's something seriously fishy.  The first half is very consistent in its tone and agenda, while the second is all over the place and very "internet tough guy" or even 4-chanesque.  The first thing I thought when I read it was "this has to be a hoax, somebody just added this second bit to get attention for their pet causes".

Has any verifiable source attributed the full 'manifesto' to this guy?

Also, I have to add that if he is in fact doing everything the media says this guy is doing/ has done, he's a farking genius.  I'm not saying I approve of shooting Monica Quan (even if she was Chupacabra's friend and the reason why Randy threw the case, as some have alleged), or any of this sociopath's actions, but he's doing something that I thought was impossible beforehand.

First off, he supposedly got into TWO firefights with multiple police officers and won, and GOT AWAY!  When has that ever happened before?  I know he's probably using his police radio to evade their maneuvers, but that is impressive.

Second, he basically, as another farker put it, "challenged every farking cop in Southern California to a gun fight", and is somehow still alive (as far as we know).  That takes some serious balls, luck, and an archangel or two watching over you.

Basically, he's threatened "the Man", the sole legal arbiters of force, who have been both increasingly militarized and unchecked in their excesses for the past few decades, and is actually making the scariest people in the whole area lose sleep and crap themselves.  Thats impressive, even if he's a bastard for what he's doing.  You don't want to be on the receiving end of "the man".  Whether its terrorists or insurgents in the middle east or protesters in the midst of a riot police crack down, the odds of surviving an encounter with the full force of "the man" are slim to none.  The police and military and government agencies of this country don't fark around.  They bring asymmetrical forc ...


So much THIS.

Look at your calendars.  Its 2013.  We have surrounding us the largest and most technologically advanced monitoring system our world has ever seen in History.  This guy has been in two major firefights and has now probably the most recognizable face out there alive.  And he's farking disappeared entirely.

Normally at this point you would have Danny Glover or Arnold Swartzenegger tossing out catchphrases and saying how absolutely fuxxored they all are while an alien being makes clicking noises just out of frame.

If Dorner manages to do this at least one or two more times and lives for more than a month or two.  Forget LAPD, your going to see the feds having a major shakedown and lose their shiat.
 
2013-02-11 05:24:17 PM  

Ayn Rand's Social Worker: If you read his 'full' manifesto, there's something seriously fishy.  The first half is very consistent in its tone and agenda, while the second is all over the place and very "internet tough guy" or even 4-chanesque.  The first thing I thought when I read it was "this has to be a hoax, somebody just added this second bit to get attention for their pet causes".

Has any verifiable source attributed the full 'manifesto' to this guy?

Also, I have to add that if he is in fact doing everything the media says this guy is doing/ has done, he's a farking genius.  I'm not saying I approve of shooting Monica Quan (even if she was Chupacabra's friend and the reason why Randy threw the case, as some have alleged), or any of this sociopath's actions, but he's doing something that I thought was impossible beforehand.

First off, he supposedly got into TWO firefights with multiple police officers and won, and GOT AWAY!  When has that ever happened before?  I know he's probably using his police radio to evade their maneuvers, but that is impressive.

Second, he basically, as another farker put it, "challenged every farking cop in Southern California to a gun fight", and is somehow still alive (as far as we know).  That takes some serious balls, luck, and an archangel or two watching over you.

Basically, he's threatened "the Man", the sole legal arbiters of force, who have been both increasingly militarized and unchecked in their excesses for the past few decades, and is actually making the scariest people in the whole area lose sleep and crap themselves.  Thats impressive, even if he's a bastard for what he's doing.  You don't want to be on the receiving end of "the man".  Whether its terrorists or insurgents in the middle east or protesters in the midst of a riot police crack down, the odds of surviving an encounter with the full force of "the man" are slim to none.  The police and military and government agencies of this country don't fark around.  They bring asymmetrical forc ...


^ x2.
 
2013-02-11 06:08:39 PM  

YixilTesiphon: TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

Dude's just crazy. Trying to say he's a "liberal" is like saying Loughner was a "conservative". Crazy can come from anywhere.


That "manifesto" was a terrible forgery. Look for the real one in PDF that doesn't have anything about politics or favorite movies or gun laws.
 
2013-02-11 06:12:19 PM  

qualtrough: Just learned that he called and taunted the father of the woman he shot. She had nothing to do with his problems, so that is just pure evil. A lot of LA cops may indeed be rotten, but if this is your hero you are one sick puppy.


you believe everything the media is telling about him?
 
2013-02-11 06:13:37 PM  
Has anyone else noticed that in his military pic he has a U.S. Army tape but Marine sleeves? I'm betting he's a phony.
 
2013-02-11 06:15:48 PM  
I'm glad I don't live in L.A.

The cops have worked themselves into a state of hyped-up, overwrought, melodramatic terror, and when this is all over they're going to have to take it all out on someone.
 
2013-02-11 06:26:40 PM  
The Dorner is not coming from inside the house.
 
2013-02-11 06:27:49 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Dorner is not targeting normal people, and by getting anywhere near him I may be incurring violence from the LAPD. It would seem best to just stay out of everyone's way.


Normal people as we understand it, or "normal people" as ex-LAPD chief Daryl Gates would understand it?

"Blacks might be more likely to die from chokeholds because their arteries do not open as fast as they do on 'normal people."
-Daryl Gates

/normal person
 
2013-02-11 08:08:24 PM  

sewnandsilent: YixilTesiphon: TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

Dude's just crazy. Trying to say he's a "liberal" is like saying Loughner was a "conservative". Crazy can come from anywhere.

That "manifesto" was a terrible forgery. Look for the real one in PDF that doesn't have anything about politics or favorite movies or gun laws.


So the first half?
 
2013-02-11 11:01:03 PM  

MacWizard: DoctorOfLove: Always thought that if you wanted to blend into any urban crowd, wear hospital scrubs, or dress up as a phone tech, tool belt, hoodie with "Comcast" etc printed on it, khaki pants, big leather boots, clipboard.

dressed that way, you are basically invisible.

If you want to be invisible, dress up like a homeless person and start asking for spare change. No one will even look at you.


Came to say the same thing. People actively try NOT to look at homeless people.
 
2013-02-12 01:01:30 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: spentshells: the second half of that "manifesto"is completely fake and obviously written by someone else

Who are the conspirators and what is their motivation?


have a read of the second half of it and make your own assumptions i don't know but I've never heard of someone involved with  gun crimes/ murder talk about gun control
 
2013-02-12 06:22:26 AM  

Aigoo: hinten: I love how some Farkers are trying to use the LAPD-Dorner situation as an argument for less gun control.

Why is this a gun control argument again? Until he went nuckin futs, Dorner could have passed (and obviously did pass) any background check, including the ones suggested by the newest legislation on the table.

We're talking about a man who, at one time, held a reasonably high security clearance. Unless they completely revoked any and all clearances for cause (which I'm guessing they didn't if he was allowed to ETS properly from the Naval Reserves. In my experience in the intel field in the military, clearances can be downgraded--which his seems to have been--but once you get in to actual revocations, discharges are usually pretty quick to follow, especially when you get downgraded from the TS/SCI level, then revoked), his federal background check would have taken the full 30 days, and he would have cleared it with flying colors, even with the LAPD termination. His situation being that he was fired essentially for lying but no charges were pursued (had he actually falsified docs, which is why he was downgraded from a TS/SCI--I can almost guarantee that's the case, so that much of his manifesto is true) would indicate that LAPD had evidence of some sort that he may not have falsified the docs in question (a FOIA would prove conclusively, and I'm not inclined to push that hard). Had charges been pressed, it would have required evidence (obviously), and he'd have likely been chaptered out of the Naval Reserves (the military tends to frown on that sort of thing quite heavily) under any number of applicable chapters--generally the catch-all is "conduct unbecoming," but a JAG lawyer could give a solid list of the applicable charges, and IANAL, either military or civilian.

TL;DR--turning this into a gun debate is farking stupid. Dorner would have passed any background check, and any idiot that shoots at a cop, even in "self-defense" (because, yeah, shooting wi ...



Strange. Are you going down there fighting the good fight against the out-of-control, authoritarian, Obama led police force? Are you recommending anyone to do so? What has to happen until you do fight your brothers and sisters that just happen to be in the police force or the armed forces?
If you don't then you are loudmouth pussy, shut up.
 
2013-02-12 07:38:33 AM  

sewnandsilent: YixilTesiphon: TerminalEchoes: The internet Fark fellating of Dorner is to downplay the fact that he's a liberal. A crazed liberal gunman? Doesn't fit the agenda! Change tactics! Change tactics! Deify Dorner and blame the LAPD!

Dude's just crazy. Trying to say he's a "liberal" is like saying Loughner was a "conservative". Crazy can come from anywhere.

That "manifesto" was a terrible forgery. Look for the real one in PDF that doesn't have anything about politics or favorite movies or gun laws.


Apparently the LA Times has been and continues to be duped by the forgery then.   Considering that they redact the names of the police officers at the request of the police, I'm inclined to believe that their version is the correct, full one, and it does indeed mention gun control.
 
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