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(Washington Post)   PTA buys popular new playground equipment for elementary school. School system promptly condemns the equipment, to avoid the risk of falling snowflakes   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 103
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2013-02-11 12:32:41 AM
I can remember my grade school had these "slides" that were nothing but big V-shaped hunks of concrete. And you couldn't actually slide on them because they were so rough they'd tear a hole right through your pants.

/my lawn, off it
 
2013-02-11 12:39:47 AM

fusillade762: I can remember my grade school had these "slides" that were nothing but big V-shaped hunks of concrete. And you couldn't actually slide on them because they were so rough they'd tear a hole right through your pants.

/my lawn, off it


Ah, we had the metal slides that you couldn't slide down in summer without blistering. Good times. :D

Also, bunches of stuff made out of weathered, splintery wood and gravel covering the ground. I remember when they started using mulch, and then brought in the ugly plastic monstrosities, and my only reaction was "WTF is this shiat?!"
 
2013-02-11 01:18:58 AM
Back in my day, we just hurled ourselves off the school roof and aimed for the handicapped kids...

AND WE LIKED IT, DAMMIT!
 
2013-02-11 01:23:27 AM
I'm right at that age when I can remember the fun/dangerous stuff going away as it was replaced with the so-called safe stuff that seemed to hurt more people, but maybe we were all injured less badly?
 
2013-02-11 02:02:57 AM
Yep had both concrete play structures and metal slides at our school. plenty of skinned knees and elbows from them. They have long since been torn down and replaced. No more sledding either. Ahh well progress i guess. It's funny my mom's town still has a rocket slide and they are talking about getting rid of it. I've already told her that if they do it's going in her backyard so i can use it every time I come home.
 
2013-02-11 04:31:18 AM
When I was a kid, they just handed us blunted melee weapons are yelled "Fight!"
 
2013-02-11 04:33:36 AM
none of that stuff is even 6 feet tall. unless the kids decide to play "Swan Dive" i think they'll live.
 
2013-02-11 04:34:54 AM
We had metal slides and climbing things made of railroad ties and metal bars. As with the rest, all torn down and replaced with equipment that even the special kids made fun of. The plastic coated chains on the new swing sets made them kind of negate the effect of having a chain at all.
 
2013-02-11 04:35:30 AM

davidphogan: I'm right at that age when I can remember the fun/dangerous stuff going away as it was replaced with the so-called safe stuff that seemed to hurt more people, but maybe we were all injured less badly?


I remember the old school monkey bars.  After six or seven girls broke their arms in one year, they were taken out.
 
2013-02-11 04:38:24 AM
We had a wooden bench style merry go round. Get it going fast and it was like a buzzsaw of splinters
 
2013-02-11 04:38:44 AM
I'll always remember the adult sized pull up bars on the elementary playground. .I'm not sure how far off the ground they really were, but to us 3rd graders they were a mountain to be scaled.  The object of recess was to shimmy your way up to the top of the bars, or have a pile of kids hoist you up if you had connections, stand on the top of the thin bar, and defend against all comers.  It was glorious.  The end of recess was like the end of 300.  Every day.
 
2013-02-11 04:39:27 AM

MissFeasance: I remember the old school monkey bars. After six or seven girls broke their arms in one year, they were taken out.


Yeah that one might do it. I remember at my Grade School they shut off the hot water to the sink after one girl turn the hot water on full blast and got blisters.
 
2013-02-11 04:39:54 AM

nburghmatt: none of that stuff is even 6 feet tall. unless the kids decide to play "Swan Dive" i think they'll live.


Except for the part that's almost 8 feet tall.
 
2013-02-11 04:40:06 AM
If the bars are ten inches higher than regulation, why don't they just add ten inches of extra dirt to the ground?

There you go, soccer moms. I just saved your $35,000.
 
2013-02-11 04:42:26 AM
www.playgroundsafety.org
These were the best. A test of playground manhood not for the faint of heart.
 
2013-02-11 04:42:39 AM
I set up a high tension rope network to remove some tree stumps, but the friends kids found it to be too awesome.   Long story short... one kid fell off a rope, smacked his head on a small rock, cried for a minute, then carried on.

This litigious shiat needs to end.   It ruins lives everywhere.
 
2013-02-11 04:45:22 AM

thatboyoverthere: MissFeasance: I remember the old school monkey bars. After six or seven girls broke their arms in one year, they were taken out.

Yeah that one might do it. I remember at my Grade School they shut off the hot water to the sink after one girl turn the hot water on full blast and got blisters.


We had those parallel flat bars up at the top of the field where the track and stuff was.  One girl fell and split her spleen in half and was in the hospital for awhile.  I have no children so I can't claim to be a helicopter parent, but in retrospect, I'm not that upset that they're making things safer.
 
2013-02-11 04:51:47 AM
My son was a climber from the day he  started walking.  That led to some interesting conversations with his  mother.

"Tony, come down from there!  Dad, a little help here.."

"Hold on tight, BS!"  That stands for "Beloved Son." :-)

"Grrr... You're not helping me, Dad!"

"I was helping him!"

"What are you going to do if he falls?"

"Catch him, if I'm not distracted."

He's never fallen.  Still loves to climb things at age 22.  I still call him "BS" and he likes it.
 
2013-02-11 04:53:28 AM

frestcrallen: [www.playgroundsafety.org image 650x357]
These were the best. A test of playground manhood not for the faint of heart.


ah i got dizzy just looking at that
 
2013-02-11 04:56:25 AM

frestcrallen: [www.playgroundsafety.org image 650x357]
These were the best. A test of playground manhood not for the faint of heart.


Oh, Hellayes!   Sit facing out, clinging to the rail behind you.  Get it spinning faster and faster until centrifugal force tore your grip loose and you went  shooting away!  Then get up so dizzy you staggered around in circles.
 
2013-02-11 04:56:47 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Back in my day, we just hurled ourselves off the school roof and aimed for the handicapped kids...

AND WE LIKED IT, DAMMIT!


We really did this, minus the handicapped kids of course.
 
2013-02-11 04:56:56 AM
I've never trusted those curvy, plastic tube slide things. I always got a nasty static shock going down them.
 
2013-02-11 04:59:00 AM
FTFA:"In a written report, the inspector found that among other safety issues, parts of the structure were too tall. One part of the equipment is 94 inches above the ground, 10 inches higher than the school system allows."

someone should have rtfm
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2013-02-11 05:00:10 AM

MissFeasance: thatboyoverthere: MissFeasance: I remember the old school monkey bars. After six or seven girls broke their arms in one year, they were taken out.

Yeah that one might do it. I remember at my Grade School they shut off the hot water to the sink after one girl turn the hot water on full blast and got blisters.

We had those parallel flat bars up at the top of the field where the track and stuff was.  One girl fell and split her spleen in half and was in the hospital for awhile.  I have no children so I can't claim to be a helicopter parent, but in retrospect, I'm not that upset that they're making things safer.


Jesus christ! I know that's possible and their small but damn.

Capt. Sparkles: I've never trusted those curvy, plastic tube slide things. I always got a nasty static shock going down them.


We had a giant one at a play area when I was a kid. It was at least two to three stories high. However you had to crawl up there and the entire are was enclosed with thick canvas straps as a cage. So it was really fun but almost totally safe.
 
2013-02-11 05:04:00 AM
I love how dramatic the first picture looks.
 
2013-02-11 05:08:53 AM

thatboyoverthere: Jesus christ! I know that's possible and their small but damn.


She was okay, luckily.  I was one of the last girls to break an arm... I broke my shoulder on my left side.  It didn't crack through the growth plate but it touched it, and my left arm is a wee bit shorter than my right.  I'm all for exciting stuff on the playground but after enough injuries, well.
 
2013-02-11 05:09:47 AM
Wow 8 feet huh.  We had a pyramid made of old truck tires at my elementary school. It had to be 15 feet tall. We also had a pirate ship made of old telephone poles and truck tires that was about the same height. One girl fell off the top of the pirate ship and got a concussion.  I wonder if they are still there.

We also had a metal and fiberglass slide that was like a static electricity generator.  No one ever used it more than once.
 
2013-02-11 05:12:32 AM
The PTA says the county provided the parents with literature about school playground construction procedures and catalogues from approved vendors.

So they did what they were supposed to and it's still wrong.

Bureaucracy in action, ladies and gentlemen.
 
2013-02-11 05:20:44 AM

MissFeasance: thatboyoverthere: Jesus christ! I know that's possible and their small but damn.

She was okay, luckily.  I was one of the last girls to break an arm... I broke my shoulder on my left side.  It didn't crack through the growth plate but it touched it, and my left arm is a wee bit shorter than my right.  I'm all for exciting stuff on the playground but after enough injuries, well.


These tales of playground trauma are strange to me.  I never broke anything.  My worst injury during childhood was a sprained ankle, and I got that by jumping off the muzzle of a Sherman tank's cannon at a war memorial.

people.cohums.ohio-state.edu
 
2013-02-11 05:20:47 AM
in Denis Leary's Christmas Special he uses safe and dangerous toys and children to illustrate the difference between bright and dim witted crotchfruit. Denis also discusses the importance of such toys to eliminate the unnecessary surplus of moran children and that pussifying kids toys will have a negative backlash in years to come.

We should elect that man President.
 
2013-02-11 05:20:55 AM

homelessdude: FTFA:"In a written report, the inspector found that among other safety issues, parts of the structure were too tall. One part of the equipment is 94 inches above the ground, 10 inches higher than the school system allows."

someone should have rtfm
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I wonder what 10" of dirt would cost.
 
2013-02-11 05:21:04 AM
When I was a kid we had what we called "The Spider."

It was a 55 gallon drum on a post with 8 legs made from tubular steel. The legs were joined in pairs by cross bars for climbing. The welds were old and rusted and like the slide it was insanely hot in the sun. Was also quite the falling risk, but we loved it.

Closest pic I can find:farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-02-11 05:24:13 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: If the bars are ten inches higher than regulation, why don't they just add ten inches of extra dirt to the ground?

There you go, soccer moms. I just saved your $35,000.


The bars were not 10 inches higher than the standard set by the National Playground Safety Group.  The damned school board set its standard ten inches too low.
 
2013-02-11 05:26:52 AM

BarkingUnicorn: These tales of playground trauma are strange to me.  I never broke anything.  My worst injury during childhood was a sprained ankle, and I got that by jumping off the muzzle of a Sherman tank's cannon at a war memorial.


To be fair, the broken shoulder was the worst thing I did until I was an adult.
 
2013-02-11 05:31:38 AM

MissFeasance: davidphogan: I'm right at that age when I can remember the fun/dangerous stuff going away as it was replaced with the so-called safe stuff that seemed to hurt more people, but maybe we were all injured less badly?

I remember the old school monkey bars.  After six or seven girls broke their arms in one year, they were taken out.


Translation: I broke six or seven girls arms getting their lunch money one year. I told them to blame the monkey bars... or else...
 
2013-02-11 05:34:09 AM

Capt. Sparkles: I've never trusted those curvy, plastic tube slide things. I always got a nasty static shock going down them.


I hated those! The metal rivets on the slide always shocked the hell out of me!
 
2013-02-11 05:42:18 AM
As my 5 year old is not allowed to use the school (very very safe) play equipment at drop off or pick up - only at break time when the playground is supervised by school staff - we're learning the importance of "check for snoops and don't get caught".

A valuable life lesson, but I thought he might have been a bit older before I had to compromise his respect for authority...
 
2013-02-11 05:45:48 AM
Note to parents: If the kid is crying and there isn't too much blood, they aren't hurt badly enough to get excited about.
 
2013-02-11 05:49:09 AM
I miss this old merry go round.  Looks the same today as it did 27+ years ago.
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This past summer I went back to that park and some People of Walmart woman's horde was climbing all over it actively trying to break it while wailing like tards about how crappy it looked.  They walked away defeated and I like to think the merry-go-round looked pleased with itself.

/Merry story, sis.
 
2013-02-11 06:02:54 AM
and then we wonder why it's snowing jelly babies these days...

We had an actual real Airplane, it even still had real instruments in it.  and it's still there,  I think.

The inspiration from that, on countless small minds...priceless.
 
2013-02-11 06:09:03 AM
We use to kill ourselves on the maypole. God, that was fun.
 
2013-02-11 06:11:53 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Back in my day, we just hurled ourselves off the school roof and aimed for the handicapped kids...

AND WE LIKED IT, DAMMIT!


You must have gone to a public school. We didn't have any 100 proof tard action at Our Lady of Perpetual Misery.
 
2013-02-11 06:13:59 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: If the bars are ten inches higher than regulation, why don't they just add ten inches of extra dirt to the ground?

There you go, soccer moms. I just saved your $35,000.

The bars were not 10 inches higher than the standard set by the National Playground Safety Group.  The damned school board set its standard ten inches too low.


And the school board was elected by these very same people. I find it hard to care all that much about how life is just so unfair being an upper middle class housewife who couldn't read some documents before installing a $35,000 piece of equipment.
 
2013-02-11 06:14:23 AM
Went to a Catholic grade school and we had no playgound equipment... come to think of it we had no playground, I believe "parking lot" would be the best description.  From second grade on we played a game that can only best be described as some rugby-kill-the-man-football-soccer hybrid. By the second grading period every pair of pants had at least 2 layers of patches sewn into the knee because getting tackled on asphalt is generally not good for dress pants.

/good times,
 
2013-02-11 06:14:48 AM

Gyrfalcon: The PTA says the county provided the parents with literature about school playground construction procedures and catalogues from approved vendors.

So they did what they were supposed to and it's still wrong.

Bureaucracy in action, ladies and gentlemen.


They read the Official literature instead of the "kickback" literature.

/they put coffee in someone's coffee
 
2013-02-11 06:16:04 AM
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Ah, here it is!  We had this thing, but with maybe 10 extra chains on it.  A particularly small girl used to do laps around us.
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I also remember getting tossed from something like this (it was painted gray) and getting the wind knocked out of me.  Enrolled at our school in 1979 and the equipment was probably old even then.
 
2013-02-11 06:17:13 AM

MissFeasance: davidphogan: I'm right at that age when I can remember the fun/dangerous stuff going away as it was replaced with the so-called safe stuff that seemed to hurt more people, but maybe we were all injured less badly?

I remember the old school monkey bars.  After six or seven girls broke their arms in one year, they were taken out.


I, too, have broken my arm falling off the monkey bars, so I'm really getting a kick...

2nd grade, broke my right forearm (not sure which bone). Right as we were learning cursive. It is because of this that I learned to write a little bit left handed and my cursive has always been terrible.

Didn't stop me from playing on the monkey bars not long after I'd healed. Good times. ;)
 
2013-02-11 06:20:05 AM
When I was a little crotch fruit, much of the school's playground equipment was built over blacktop. Then they ripped that out, and replaced it equipment made with old Creosote soaked telephone poles with bolts sticking out all over the place. The telephone polls quickly got splintery, and Creosote was dirty as hell; and we now know Creosote is a carcinogen . But the bolts, what the fark were they thinking with the bolts!?! They were great at ripping clothes and flesh alike. I wonder how many kids my age have scars from those things.

Oh, and the new "safer equipment" was placed over wood chips from recycled wood. A quick Google shows that wood chips of that era were found to contain DDT, PCP, more Creosote, and all kinds of other nasty shiat.

Of course now the school my daughter will be going to has the new super safe, super boring, plastic stuff built over rubber padding. And the kids are watched by several playground monitors that make sure that nothing fun happens. God forbid someone throws a snowball, or plays even touch football. Christ, in my day, the school nurse was there to patch up wounds, and evaluate potentially broken limbs, as much as she was there to send home sick kids. Now a school nurse spends half their time giving out ADHD meds.
 
2013-02-11 06:21:44 AM

Gyrfalcon: The PTA says the county provided the parents with literature about school playground construction procedures and catalogues from approved vendors.

So they did what they were supposed to and it's still wrong.

Bureaucracy in action, ladies and gentlemen.


I think the problems was the County wasn't fully in charge of the process.  Of course, if that was the case, it would have been ten years before the equipment would be installed.
 
2013-02-11 06:23:17 AM

BigBooper: When I was a little crotch fruit, much of the school's playground equipment was built over blacktop. Then they ripped that out, and replaced it equipment made with old Creosote soaked telephone poles with bolts sticking out all over the place. The telephone polls quickly got splintery, and Creosote was dirty as hell; and we now know Creosote is a carcinogen . But the bolts, what the fark were they thinking with the bolts!?! They were great at ripping clothes and flesh alike. I wonder how many kids my age have scars from those things.

Oh, and the new "safer equipment" was placed over wood chips from recycled wood. A quick Google shows that wood chips of that era were found to contain DDT, PCP, more Creosote, and all kinds of other nasty shiat.

... Now a school nurse spends half their time giving out ADHD meds.



When it would be more effective to let the kids run that energy out.
 
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