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2013-02-10 01:16:52 PM
In other news, the oil industry releases report that rips investigator Michael Mann a new asshole.
 
2013-02-10 02:07:30 PM
Dear everyone involved in this whole sordid affair;

The longer you keep bringing this up, the worse you look.  There is absolutely no chance that public opinion will change and people will suddenly start thinking "hey, covering up child rape isn't so bad."  It is not going to happen.  The sooner you stop calling attention to yourselves, the sooner people will move on to the next scandal and you can begin shifting attention back to football.
 
2013-02-10 02:25:26 PM
JoePe Never Forget

/because his idiot family won't let you
 
2013-02-10 03:29:06 PM
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-10 03:31:55 PM
If there's anyone that would be an authority on assholes, it would be the Paternos.
 
2013-02-10 03:45:06 PM
Joe ran cover for a pedo. No amount of reports attacking the people who investigated it will change that fact
 
2013-02-10 03:56:35 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Joe ran cover for a pedo. No amount of reports attacking the people who investigated it will change that fact


I was thinking something similar.  If they're paid to clear Joe's name, I'm sure they can find questions to ask just like Alex Jones finds questions about 9/11 and Sandy Hook.  It doesn't mean they're the right questions to ask.
 
2013-02-10 04:22:04 PM
More sour grapes. All the adults involved in this scandal want you to believe they're victims too.
 
2013-02-10 04:23:09 PM
The report attacks the investigation - justly or not - not the people who conducted it.

/Thornburg has completed his transition to the old man in "American Gothic," I see.
 
2013-02-10 04:25:08 PM
As a member of the public, my opinion has been changed.  I guess covering up child rape isn't so bad after all.  I'm glad they shifted my attention to this, now we can get back to football.
 
2013-02-10 04:26:29 PM
wizbangblog.com

was the Obvious tag unavailable and in a cell next to Jerry ?

/ keep taunting the NCAA dynamite monkey
// because ... becauseJOEPAAAAaaaa
/// *barfs*
 
2013-02-10 04:35:36 PM
i.imgur.com

Yes, nothing like getting people who are heavily invested in a more favorable outcome for Penn State or Paterno to do a supposed 'independent investivation' which is nothing of the sort.

I'm completely surprised to hear the former governor open his statements by saying he "insists on an particular outcome" from his investigators... WTF? I bet he has absolutely no ties to Second Mile, too, right? ::crickets:: right?
 
2013-02-10 04:36:33 PM
investivation? Ouch. Of course, I meant 'investigation'
 
2013-02-10 04:36:45 PM

davidphogan: Peter von Nostrand: Joe ran cover for a pedo. No amount of reports attacking the people who investigated it will change that fact

I was thinking something similar.  If they're paid to clear Joe's name, I'm sure they can find questions to ask just like Alex Jones finds questions about 9/11 and Sandy Hook.  It doesn't mean they're the right questions to ask.


From the Paterno site's bio of their lead investigator Wick Sollers:


Wick Sollers is Managing Partner of the Washington, D.C., office and former Chair of King & Spalding's Special Matters & Governmental Investigations Practice Group. He has extensive experience defending accounting and government contract fraud cases, grand jury practice, criminal environmental, health care and FDA matters, Foreign Corrupt Practices Act cases, internal corporate investigations, representation before congressional committees, federal criminal trials and appeals, and general civil litigation.

Yeah, this guy looks legit. I trust him implicitly.
 
2013-02-10 04:39:14 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-10 04:39:55 PM
In other news, chickens in central PA have been placed on high alert.
 
2013-02-10 04:44:37 PM

ScreamingHangover: davidphogan: Peter von Nostrand: Joe ran cover for a pedo. No amount of reports attacking the people who investigated it will change that fact

I was thinking something similar.  If they're paid to clear Joe's name, I'm sure they can find questions to ask just like Alex Jones finds questions about 9/11 and Sandy Hook.  It doesn't mean they're the right questions to ask.

From the Paterno site's bio of their lead investigator Wick Sollers:


Wick Sollers is Managing Partner of the Washington, D.C., office and former Chair of King & Spalding's Special Matters & Governmental Investigations Practice Group. He has extensive experience defending accounting and government contract fraud cases, grand jury practice, criminal environmental, health care and FDA matters, Foreign Corrupt Practices Act cases, internal corporate investigations, representation before congressional committees, federal criminal trials and appeals, and general civil litigation.
Yeah, this guy looks legit. I trust him implicitly.


Sounds like just the guy to defend the LAPD for shooting up those pickups.

This guy Wick is a close family friend and represented Paterno form the start of this mess...

http://deadspin.com/wick-sollers/

cache.deadspin.com

Nope, no conflict of interest there... completely independent!!
 
2013-02-10 04:52:02 PM
I'm shocked that a report commissioned by the family to clear the family's name was released and it turns out that it tries to clear the family's name.

Next up, George Lucas will be hiring someone to release a report on how episode one is actually awesome.
 
2013-02-10 04:59:03 PM
It's painfully obvious that Paterno was involved in a cover up. Anyone with half a brain can see that. Now, if they could prove that he had no knowledge of what exactly Sandusky was doing (meaning he didn't know that there was sexual assaults of children going on and basically saying he was an unwitting party to the cover up); I would be willing to give Paterno some benefit of the doubt (not a lot, but some). But the report comes off as a full denial of his involvement and knowledge of anything going on and I can not buy that for one second.
 
2013-02-10 05:09:49 PM
Well, I personally refuse to believe anything in this report. After all it was prepared on behalf of Paterno's family by someone they paid! How can you trust that?

I'll stick with the Freeh report that Penn State paid someone to write on their behalf. You can trust them, they'd never cover anything up.
 
2013-02-10 05:11:07 PM
The Paterno family sounds incredibly butthurt.  Perhaps a certain former college assistant football coach who is familiar with that malady can give them some advice.
 
2013-02-10 05:23:46 PM

js34603: I'll stick with the Freeh report that Penn State paid someone to write on their behalf. You can trust them, they'd never cover anything up.


Wouldn't it be in PSU's best interests to release a report that absolved Paterno (and others) from blame and tried to ignore the idea that high-level administrators knew what was going on?

If anything, I would think PSU would love to have a report similar to this one that said Paterno did nothing wrong and he's still a great guy.
 
2013-02-10 05:26:01 PM

js34603: Well, I personally refuse to believe anything in this report. After all it was prepared on behalf of Paterno's family by someone they paid! How can you trust that?

I'll stick with the Freeh report that Penn State paid someone to write on their behalf. You can trust them, they'd never cover anything up.


Reports you commission clear you of wrong doing. Can't explain that!
 
2013-02-10 05:26:19 PM

bulldg4life: I'm shocked that a report commissioned by the family to clear the family's name was released and it turns out that it tries to clear the family's name.

Next up, George Lucas will be hiring someone to release a report on how episode one is actually awesome.


All Red Letter Media videos were flawed in their interpretation of Jar Jar Binks as a man of the people.
 
2013-02-10 05:33:38 PM
www.kslaw.com
You know what would be terrible?

If your photo showed up in Google results for "boy raper" and pedophile and "child molester".

That would be terrible.
 
2013-02-10 05:39:27 PM

js34603: Well, I personally refuse to believe anything in this report. After all it was prepared on behalf of Paterno's family by someone they paid! How can you trust that?
.
I'll stick with the Freeh report that Penn State paid someone to write on their behalf. You can trust them, they'd never cover anything up.


I am not a Paterno defender - just a PSU grad who wants to know what the fark went on up there. But, yeah, no one ever threw a dead guy under the bus before. Because that would like, be a first.

Though I find it hilarious that a former US Atty General is bashing the investigative skills of a former FBI director. He's probably use to the FBI farking up cases for him...
 
2013-02-10 05:48:57 PM

FloydA: Dear everyone involved in this whole sordid affair;

The longer you keep bringing this up, the worse you look.  There is absolutely no chance that public opinion will change and people will suddenly start thinking "hey, covering up child rape isn't so bad."  It is not going to happen.  The sooner you stop calling attention to yourselves, the sooner people will move on to the next scandal and you can begin shifting attention back to football.


This. Paterno's dead, and his complicity is a matter of record. Attempting to smear the living to "protect the reputation" of a dead man is not just stupid, but also makes the dead man's reputation look that much worse as a result. Paterno humped a bunk (pun intended) dealing with Sandusky, as did the rest of the asshats busily trying to "protect the reputation" of themselves, the school, and all that friggin' football money.

Haven't you folks learned yet that "protecting the reputation" is what keeps getting you into deeper and deeper shiat? Shut up, deal with the situation, and move on.
 
2013-02-10 06:04:21 PM

jaytkay: [www.kslaw.com image 145x188]
You know what would be terrible?

If your photo showed up in Google results for "boy raper" and pedophile and "child molester".

That would be terrible.


www.kslaw.com
Boy raper? Pedophile? This guy sure is involved in child rape (investigations)
I suppose it would be correct to say he's good buddies with Jerry Sandusky, if Wick Sollers hung out with Jerry in the Penn State Locker room, but I have no knowledge that actually happened... then again, I have no evidence it didn't.
I could ponder if Wick Sollers likes rhythmic slapping noises, but honestly, I don't care to think of all the children he might have raped.

/Don't want to add fuel to the google fire, dontcha know.
 
2013-02-10 06:18:46 PM
I guess this is the report they discussed on ESPN this morning.  Of course there was no mention anywhere on SportsCenter of who commissioned the report or who investigated, so I can only assume it was the same one.
 
2013-02-10 06:29:31 PM
Paterno is just lucky that he's dead.  Imagine if he had lived and they tossed him in jail for five to ten.
 
2013-02-10 06:38:25 PM
I still think the school should be on the hook for a much larger bill and a TV ban*, BUT should be eligible for non-BCS bowls and lose no scholarships.

*for the regular season, so if they make it to a bowl game, let them be on TV

/this would have punished people who had something to MAKE off of this school's football team, and punished the school/team financially without hammering the players
 
2013-02-10 06:39:08 PM
JoePa went from doing nothing about it after hearing the allegation to actively covering it up.  I'm not sure where the proof was that JoePa did that.

Doing nothing is pretty damnable, but I'd want the record clear that he didn't actively cover it up if I were the Paternos.

My reading of the emails the article linked to showed that the President of the university wasn't comfortable with ratting on Sandusky, and wanted to keep it a private matter.  JoePa asserted that he thought the university handled it.  Seems like there's an agreement between the president and the AD, and JoePa was nominally involved.

There's a world of difference between confused old man who didn't do enough to report allegations and a conspirator covering up and aiding child rape.

And there's nothing worse than your friend who is an attorney trying to clear your name as a child rape enabler.  What a monster.
 
2013-02-10 06:44:58 PM
www.kslaw.com

Who is Wick Sollers?  Why does he like boy rape?  Is that the same as raping a boy?  Or is it molestation either way?  I guess it's anal, anal retentive, to spit pubic hairs, I mean split hairs on the matter.  It's like saying he's into furries, that is a collection of furry people.  Or Beastiality .. you know, sex with animals .  I mean, in the end, it's like saying a bloody cock (rooster) is flying to your anus, i mean uranus , on a double ended dildo broomstick.  It just makes no sense.

/No Seriously, who is Wick Sollers?/
 
2013-02-10 06:49:29 PM
Wait...so are we no longer mad at Joe Paterno for facilitating child rape for over a decade?
 
2013-02-10 06:52:23 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Paterno is just lucky that he's dead.  Imagine if he had lived and they tossed him in jail for five to ten.


That's why Paterno's family keeps trying to retcon his reputation. He's no longer alive, and they can't make bank on what remains of his legacy.
 
2013-02-10 06:55:14 PM
My previous post may have been unclear.

Wick Sollers has not been accused of being a boy raper, child molester or pedophile.

www.kslaw.com
Wick Sollers, not a known boy raper, child molester or pedophile
 
2013-02-10 06:58:36 PM

gimmegimme: Wait...so are we no longer mad at Joe Paterno for facilitating child rape for over a decade?


No, I still want to blow up the stadium. The anger I felt over this was so intense I had to let it go. It was getting to my health. This is starting to boil it back up again.

I wish Anonymous would have gotten involved. It seems like something they'd take up. Deface the PSU football website at a minimum. Cause disorder by threatening more serious consequences unless the season was cancelled. I can't believe those assholes got to make their football money after all of this. For the rest of my life I will discriminate against everything related to that school. I will not hire anyone who went there. I will not be friends with anyone who went there. It might not be fair to everyone, but something has to come in and level some consequences. The student body rioted in support of child molestation. This story came out and the only thing they cared about was "Will this damage our ability to recruit, resulting in us winning fewer football games?" I know a few students went against that, but all of the alumni will try to pretend they were in that small group, so I'm not going to buy it. Brand them.
 
2013-02-10 07:04:03 PM

Tommy Moo: gimmegimme: Wait...so are we no longer mad at Joe Paterno for facilitating child rape for over a decade?

No, I still want to blow up the stadium. The anger I felt over this was so intense I had to let it go. It was getting to my health. This is starting to boil it back up again.

I wish Anonymous would have gotten involved. It seems like something they'd take up. Deface the PSU football website at a minimum. Cause disorder by threatening more serious consequences unless the season was cancelled. I can't believe those assholes got to make their football money after all of this. For the rest of my life I will discriminate against everything related to that school. I will not hire anyone who went there. I will not be friends with anyone who went there. It might not be fair to everyone, but something has to come in and level some consequences. The student body rioted in support of child molestation. This story came out and the only thing they cared about was "Will this damage our ability to recruit, resulting in us winning fewer football games?" I know a few students went against that, but all of the alumni will try to pretend they were in that small group, so I'm not going to buy it. Brand them.


Calm down, friend.  I don't want to put words in the mouths of other farkers, but some seem to be saying that the overwhelming evidence proves that Paterno facilitated child rape for over a decade.  Therefore, Joe Paterno didn't facilitate child rape.
 
2013-02-10 07:12:01 PM

gimmegimme: Wait...so are we no longer mad at Joe Paterno for facilitating child rape for over a decade?


nope, still mad.  fark that guy.  fark penn state for playing football this year.
 
2013-02-10 07:13:18 PM

jaytkay: My previous post may have been unclear.

Wick Sollers has not been accused of being a boy raper, child molester or pedophile.

[www.kslaw.com image 145x188]
Wick Sollers, not a known boy raper, child molester or pedophile


Well, if I was the sort of person who just went along with popular opinion, i'd probably see this picture:

i.imgur.com

and say things about this guy, like:

www.kslaw.com
He's a child molestor, boy raper, sodomizer of young men...

...but I'm sure we all know better, even if there is no evidence either way, except that the van above was obviously photoshopped. If Wick Sollers was driving around in a van that said "Free Candy" we would definitely be suspicious, though. I just think the investigators didn't do a complete enough job to tell me he wasn't driving around in a van that said 'free candy', luring little boys to be butt-raped.
 
2013-02-10 07:14:19 PM

A Fark Handle: nope, still mad. fark that guy. fark penn state for playing football this year.


I'm still annoyed about HOW MUCH PRESS the team got from ESPN particularly. Holy crap, the first few weeks of the football season was all PedoLion, all the time. Turn on the games and it's a Penn State game... Sportscenter is about Penn State.

I mean, yes, it was refreshing to have a few minutes of peace from "is every SEC team better than the Green Bay Packers?" or whatever stupid farking thing ESPN and CBS will try to sell every week, but not for Penn State.
 
2013-02-10 07:16:27 PM
Holy crap, I think I've seen Wick Sollers's sun on Fark.

choosepp.net
 
2013-02-10 07:22:46 PM
Champion of the Sun:
There's a world of difference between confused old man who didn't do enough to report allegations and a conspirator covering up and aiding child rape.

I will not buy the idea that Joe Paterno was a "confused old man" in 2001.
 
2013-02-10 07:29:15 PM

jj325: I will not buy the idea that Joe Paterno was a "confused old man" in 2001.


He was 75 and there was a bunch of pressure on the university to fire him for being out of it.  They had a few bad seasons in a row there, most people attributed it to his old age.

Dude deserved to lose his legacy and all, but I don't see enough evidence to say the guy was part of a conspiracy to cover up the allegations.  His bosses, yeah without a doubt.  And McCreary was young and of a sound mind, why isn't he some huge pariah?  Cause he told his boss about it.  And his boss told his boss.  The main bosses covered it up, which the evidence clearly shows.
 
2013-02-10 07:31:37 PM
A report commissioned by Joe Paterno's family claims the July 2012 Freeh report is a "failure" and was loaded with errors, personal opinions, disputed allegations and bias. The Paterno family report, which is loaded with errors, personal opinions, disputed allegations and bias, targets nearly every conclusion and assertion the Freeh report made about Paterno in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.
 
2013-02-10 07:34:03 PM

jj325: Champion of the Sun:
There's a world of difference between confused old man who didn't do enough to report allegations and a conspirator covering up and aiding child rape.

I will not buy the idea that Joe Paterno was a "confused old man" in 2001.


If you lived around here you might have.
 
2013-02-10 07:35:06 PM

jj325: I will not buy the idea that Joe Paterno was a "confused old man" in 2001.


I think people overestimate the cognitive faculties of those in their late sixties or seventies anyway, but particularly when it comes to long-time friends. I mean, the guy was freaking "old" when Penn State was an independent.

That being said, I think about the only thing he had to focus on was his legacy, and I think he consciously focused on that more than anything else. I think he may have honestly believed the Sandusky thing was "handled" in the way that major sports programs "handle" things. And that's... bad. Really bad.

/and I don't mean little boys
 
2013-02-10 07:35:31 PM

Champion of the Sun: My reading of the emails the article linked to showed that the President of the university wasn't comfortable with ratting on Sandusky, and wanted to keep it a private matter. JoePa asserted that he thought the university handled it. Seems like there's an agreement between the president and the AD, and JoePa was nominally involved.

There's a world of difference between confused old man who didn't do enough to report allegations and a conspirator covering up and aiding child rape.


How is that not horrific?  When you become aware someone in your employ is raping children, never is there a moment where you hand it off and consider it done, unless that hand-off is to the police and a DA.  There's never a moment where "my boss is handling it" is a valid exit from that situation.  We're not talking about a guy stealing money from the till or sleeping through his shift.

Informing your boss about a child rapist is a courtesy to allow them to mitigate damage to the university in the inevitable and awful aftermath.  It's not an appropriate action to wash your hands of the situation.  How illegal it is I leave to the legal system.  Ethically and morally, he's getting an appropriate shelling.
 
2013-02-10 07:35:52 PM

Champion of the Sun: jj325: I will not buy the idea that Joe Paterno was a "confused old man" in 2001.

He was 75 and there was a bunch of pressure on the university to fire him for being out of it.  They had a few bad seasons in a row there, most people attributed it to his old age.

Dude deserved to lose his legacy and all, but I don't see enough evidence to say the guy was part of a conspiracy to cover up the allegations.  His bosses, yeah without a doubt.  And McCreary was young and of a sound mind, why isn't he some huge pariah?  Cause he told his boss about it.  And his boss told his boss.  The main bosses covered it up, which the evidence clearly shows.


it's pretty clear they joepa among others told sandusky to go rape boys somewhere else.  hence the whole, no more using the facilities.  they knew, they didn't care.  fark 'em.
 
2013-02-10 07:37:14 PM

Champion of the Sun: And McCreary was young and of a sound mind, why isn't he some huge pariah?


To me, he's the one person who had the greatest chance to put a stop to all of this, and he didn't do it.

I mean, AFTER that event, and other events that eventually became more publicized, the administrators and AD and Paterno really, really blew it to a much grander degree. But all of it could have ended in that shower/locker room.
 
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