I was going to sub this earlier today, but I decided against it. Glad to see someone someone picked up where my lack of troll work left off.

This family and their "grandfather of morals" is about 25% as disturbing as the child-rape that took place. I certainly hope that the family of this coke-bottled lens wearing POS kid-farking enabler would get raped, dry, balls deep in the ass by the big black cack of justice.

These PSU and Paterno defenders are the sickest brand of human-being.

gimmegimme: And aren't you sickened that Paterno was able to make all of those millions even though he was facilitating child rape all those years? It's not "blood money," but it's something close.

I was going to make a really really really awful joke, but even I'm having second thoughts.

RDixon: When did Penn State become a Catholic school?

You misunderstand. Only one guy was doing the actual rape. He just did it a lot, apparently.

puffy999: gimmegimme: And aren't you sickened that Paterno was able to make all of those millions even though he was facilitating child rape all those years? It's not "blood money," but it's something close.

I was going to make a really really really awful joke, but even I'm having second thoughts.

Agatha Crispy: RDixon: When did Penn State become a Catholic school?

Ha, ha, ha - LMAO - you're so cutting edge. You mean kids get abused by public school teachers, neighbors, and non-Catholic university officials and you didn't know? Wow, your comedy is so fresh and progressive,
Regardless of what Joe did Sandusky was bringing kids on campus, and to games, up until 2010. Even if he just heard rumors he had the power to keep Sandusky away. And he didn't.

You sound Catholic.

Champion of the Sun: something weird happening in the shower

Seriously, nobody in their right mind would hear that and not have warning bells going off.

Let's take an unassailable person... Mr. Rogers... you have heard he was in the shower with a young boy, something weird was happening in the shower... and you still think, perfectly innocent, it's Mr. Rogers.

Hell no. You think, WTF? Then you confront a person you've known since they PLAYED for PSU, the guy who was meant to be your replacement, until something "weird happened" in the shower with another boy 14 years earlier... if you've been deaf to all the rumors hovering around your buddy Jerry for the previous 20 years, you probably get a light flickering on...

One thing you do not do is play it down when you pass it on to your superiors, and henceforth ignore it, if you do not condone that sort of thing.

On the other hand, if you were aware your buddy had some "bad habits" that might affect your beloved football program and your legacy, should they ever see the light, you might rely on the same administration guys who covered it up before and hope it all blows over once more. Hell, that assessment is being generous, because there are a lot of worse possibilities that come to mind.

/Amazed some people still defend Paterno

SkittlesAreYum: puffy999: Champion of the Sun: And McCreary was young and of a sound mind, why isn't he some huge pariah?

To me, he's the one person who had the greatest chance to put a stop to all of this, and he didn't do it.

I mean, AFTER that event, and other events that eventually became more publicized, the administrators and AD and Paterno really, really blew it to a much grander degree. But all of it could have ended in that shower/locker room.

No, the administration had the greatest chance to stop it all, for two reasons.

1. It was going on long before McCreary witnessed anything. If it had stopped there, Sandusky would still have had access to victims from 1977 to 2001.

2. It can very intimidating being told by your boss not to involve yourself anymore. It doesn't excuse him, but it's more understandable. To Godwin this, it's like blaming those who were "just following orders" more than the Nazi leadership because they could have refused. It's true, and they should have, but the greater blame always lies with those in authority.

That fear and intimidation makes sense for McCreary.  But Paterno was the single most powerful man at Penn State.  He's not going to be intimidated by administrators who have more to fear from him than he has from them.  You may as well say that Kobe Bryant was intimidated by Michael Brown.

WTF Indeed: Does this mean that the people who called Paterno supporters "appeasers" actually appeasers of the Penn State board?
 Just like people who hated Amon Goeth must have really liked Adolph Hitler.

Champion of the Sun: I don't see why he would think the college would be hurt by Sandusky getting arrested at the time.

Well, the obvious is that mud spatters. Reporters are vultures, and sports pundits are worse... but we could think the worse... that Sandusky had leverage on Paterno that might have been exposed if he'd been put in front of a jury because Joe reported him; or we could simply assume that Paterno feared his light-handed tactics in dealing with his buddy might come to light, and it was too late to really do much more than try and remove access to school property (which they didn't do very well, at any rate).

I think it's silly to think Paterno had no motivation NOT to turn in a guy he knew for 35+ years, particularly when you are a high profile, "legendary" football coach that is idolized everywhere you go.

I find it incredibly hard to believe that Paterno had no clues about Sandusky's true nature, at any rate. Penn State students involved in athletics seemed to be somewhat aware that Jerry Sandusky was a weirdo to be avoided. It's very possible his crimes go back to his playing days, though he might have had an easier time hiding it back then (indeed, it probably emboldened him to expand his "play time" to PSU facilities and found Second Mile). It certainly IS possible that, as an assistant coach, Paterno might have been involved in some informal discipline of player Jerry Sandusky for some strange behavior with a young boy in 1964. Too many coaches in every sport, at every level, often are willing to overlook troubling behavior (including drug and alcohol abuse, PEDs, domestic abuse, fake girlfriends, etc...) because of their value to a program. We've already been made aware by former Penn State officials that Paterno insisted on handling all disciplinary actions 'internally' - which pretty much insures that we will never know the extent Paterno covered up crimes by other coaches and players in the program, and why his program looked so "clean" for decades.

You can shovel snow off a roof but you cant shovel the stink off of what Joe Pa and Penn State did for Sandusky and his hobby.

Peter von Nostrand: Joe ran cover for a pedo. No amount of reports attacking the people who investigated it will change that fact

That's the long and short of it. No amount of dressing up is going to polish that turd.

This is Fark, so facts have no meaning here (see George ZImmerman/Trayvon Martin), but let me just post the only thing that matters;

From the report: "No evidence exists that Paterno concealed critical information about Sandusky."

Please proceed with your regularly scheduled indignant, ignorant outrage, witch hunt.

justtray: This is Fark, so facts have no meaning here (see George ZImmerman/Trayvon Martin), but let me just post the only thing that matters;

From the report: "No evidence exists that Paterno concealed critical information about Sandusky."

Please proceed with your regularly scheduled indignant, ignorant outrage, witch hunt.

Now, hold on there a minute.  You're accepting as prima facie accurate a document put out by the family of the person whose name they're trying to clear?  You seem to normally have better judgment than that.  Would you take at face value an NRA document that stated, "No evidence exists that Assault Rifles exacerbate mass shootings"?  Of course not.  So why take this as being definitive?

vygramul: justtray: This is Fark, so facts have no meaning here (see George ZImmerman/Trayvon Martin), but let me just post the only thing that matters;

From the report: "No evidence exists that Paterno concealed critical information about Sandusky."

Please proceed with your regularly scheduled indignant, ignorant outrage, witch hunt.

Now, hold on there a minute.  You're accepting as prima facie accurate a document put out by the family of the person whose name they're trying to clear?  You seem to normally have better judgment than that.  Would you take at face value an NRA document that stated, "No evidence exists that Assault Rifles exacerbate mass shootings"?  Of course not.  So why take this as being definitive?

If you read the ESPN article, you would know why your comment is so farking stupid.

Only one person involved had any connection to the Paterno family, and that one person's relationship was described as "not close." They were also directed to investigate and find the truth, regardless of positive or negative. Can the Freeh report say that? Based on this reports findings, and the obvious, glaring bias, non-factual conclusions the Freeh report makes, I would say "probably not."

I have no affiliation to Penn State or anyone who ever went there. I just hate public media witch burnings that are entirely devoid and ignorant of facts. Because as someone above said, they don't want or care about the facts. Everyone just wants to feel morally superior and blame anyone and everyone involved.

Frankly, I hope this reports help the Paterno family sue Penn State back to the stone age. They deserve it.

And lastly;

js34603: Well, I personally refuse to believe anything in this report. After all it was prepared on behalf of Paterno's family by someone they paid! How can you trust that?

I'll stick with the Freeh report that Penn State paid someone to write on their behalf. You can trust them, they'd never cover anything up.