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I'm beginning to think that Chris Dorner has a valid point here...idiots. Women and white guys?? Are they farking nuts? Apparently so.

I hope those victims get a nice cash payout out of this, at a minimum.

It is a plan, if not effective.  They have a plan.

Fear_and_Loathing: It is a plan, if not effective.  They have a plan.

Eventually it should be foolproof, theoretically.

I love that photo, how he's grabbing his neck like "ow my neck, I'm disabled forever!" and she's grabbing her neck "his neck is putting a kink in my neck and we are going to sue!".

Not that they shouldn't sue, or don't deserve a hefty payday. It just looks like an ambulance chaser posed them for the photo.

Stupid bastard cops. Seriously, ram him and shoot at him after talking to him... I guess you could say racial profiling is dead and these cops are truly colorblind.

I really wonder how the LAPD can afford all these mistakes. Tax players can't be happy. I mean dang, politicians resign over an affairs. The police chief, resign?

Nope.

"When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds."

This is a bald faced lie.  Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect.  Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag.

I think we've reached the point where Dorner will become something of a folk hero in the eyes of a public that's constantly being terrorized by the LAPD.

F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds."

When there are never, and I mean never, any consequences for your actions there are no longer any inhibitions to antisocial  behavior, including murder. That's why people become cops. They've been scared of consequences their whole lives and have found a safe place to be.

I hope that this attitude on their part changes. Police are important to the functioning of a civilized society but a group of armed, 100% self interested thugs, is the beginning of anarchy. No wonder no one wants to give up their guns.

Hasn't the LAPD shot anything else recently?

Dorner is likely long gone. Past Mexico by now. Perhaps Cuba or some other unfriendly spot. The roadblocks in LA are harassment pure and simple. "We're doing this because we can".

The psychologist's statement that "The police are not used to being hunted." is relieving. So, they are used to being the hunters? Not even a pretense of "To protect and serve?

Vodka Zombie: I think we've reached the point where Dorner will become something of a folk hero in the eyes of a public that's constantly being terrorized by the LAPD.

I hope not.

SilentStrider: Vodka Zombie: I think we've reached the point where Dorner will become something of a folk hero in the eyes of a public that's constantly being terrorized by the LAPD.

I hope not.

F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds."

This is a bald faced lie.  Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect.  Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag.

And they hurt like hell. Feels like getting punched in the chest.

SilentStrider: Vodka Zombie: I think we've reached the point where Dorner will become something of a folk hero in the eyes of a public that's constantly being terrorized by the LAPD.

I hope not.

Me too. But, once the public opinion turns, the LAPD will probably wind up holding the city hostage, and maybe Dorner will turn himself in once enough innocent people are shot by the LAPD.

It worked in Robin Hood.

Cheat sheet given to all LAPD officers:

How to tell if Christopher Dorner is in a vehicle:
Is it a car? Yes? He's not in it.
Is it a truck? Yes? SHOOT THE F*CKING THING FULL OF HOLES!!!!!!
But is it the right make of truck? IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!! SHOOT THE F*CKING THING FULL OF HOLES!!!!!!
But is it the right color truck? DO YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH??? IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!! SHOOT THE F*CKING THING FULL OF HOLES!!!!!!
But is it a white guy or women in it instead of a black guy? DO YOU WANT TO DIE??? SHOOT THE F*CKING THING FULL OF HOLES!!!!!!

Vodka Zombie: I think we've reached the point where Dorner will become something of a folk hero in the eyes of a public that's constantly being terrorized by the LAPD.

He already is

Great job, LAPD! Clearly, the best way to deal with this situation is to make the general populace think that maybe Dorner has a farking point about the LAPD.

LordJiro: Great job, LAPD! Clearly, the best way to deal with this situation is to make the general populace think that maybe Dorner has a farking point about the LAPD.

Repeat after me:

They. Don't. Care. What. You. Think.

Key Stone Cops

LordJiro: Great job, LAPD! Clearly, the best way to deal with this situation is to make the general populace think that maybe Dorner has a farking point about the LAPD.

I don't condone him, excuse him, or think he's got a moral place here.  But he's certainly shined one FARK of a light on his central point, hasn't he?

Wait, he was wrongly assaulted by cops, but the article says he's an LAX baggage handler. I can't root for anyone here.

Jesus how many times are they going to do this today?!

KhamanV: LordJiro: Great job, LAPD! Clearly, the best way to deal with this situation is to make the general populace think that maybe Dorner has a farking point about the LAPD.

I don't condone him, excuse him, or think he's got a moral place here.  But he's certainly shined one FARK of a light on his central point, hasn't he?

Especially since the LAPD was dumb enough to re-open the case and then give a statement of "We aren't doing this for Dorner but for the community"

Right.. All the public see's in that is "Dorner was right"..

Despite subby's headline, this wasn't LAPD. It was the Torrance Police Department.

And it's old news.

I came here hoping there was a lead on a vehicle Dorner is using. I haven't heard anything about vehicles missing from the Big Bear area, which leads me to suspect he's still up there.

My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention.

Dorner's manifesto, as disturbing as it was, does make some sense. What in the hell is going on with the LAPD? "Hey, it's two chicks in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like two chicks! Shoot 'em!" "Hey, it's a skinny white guy in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like a skinny surfer! Shoot 'em!"

Perhaps someone should be less worried about Dorner and more worried about what's going on in the LAPD. It's almost as if the LAPD wants to ensure Dorner never makes it to trial.

How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?

/what worse things are Dorner's alleged crimes distracting the public eye from?

This has the fingerprints of Frank Drebin all over this plan.

Fark Libs should be very happy. The lapd no longer racially profiles. As a bonus, the unionized officers will get paid leave. Liberalism has triumphed.

I know its not an excuse. I wonder the age and length of service of these crusaders allegedly shooting crashing into things, people and shooting them full of holes.  I wonder too how much of what said is sensationalized by lawyers and media in order to collect money and sell papers.

Porky season?

I would gladly trade places with Mr. Perdue.  For the small cost of a concussion and a soiled pair of boxers, he's going to get an all expense paid vacation from work, a new truck, a six or perhaps seven figure tax free retirement fund, and likely a get-out-of-jail-free card good in the city of Torrance for the rest of his life.

If this guy has any brains at all, he's not still in the LAPD's jurisdiction. On the other hand, he's an ex-cop.

So the cops have declared war on blue trucks?

bingethinker: If this guy has any brains at all, he's not still in the LAPD's jurisdiction. On the other hand, he's an ex-cop.

It doesn't matter.  These were the Torrance police who shot up this guy's car.  Ever police department in California is likely twitchy at this point.

Is there a "run dorner run" folk song yet? If not someone is missing an opportunity.

"Seconds later, Perdue's attorney said, a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue. "

"There's Dorner. Shoot, SHOOOOOT!"<P>

This is why Barney Fife was only given a single bullet.

Joe boater: I know its not an excuse. I wonder the age and length of service of these crusaders allegedly shooting crashing into things, people and shooting them full of holes.  I wonder too how much of what said is sensationalized by lawyers and media in order to collect money and sell papers.

Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that outright executing someone that is a different color and gender, not to mention innocent, rather than the man you were gunning for, is probably pretty good grounds for murder charges being filed.

/Retirement, maybe?
//OK, a paid vacation it is.
///And a formal apology from the victims' families

make me some tea: I'm beginning to think that Chris Dorner has a valid point here...idiots. Women and white guys?? Are they farking nuts? Apparently so.

I hope those victims get a nice cash payout out of this, at a minimum.

Well, if anything, this is starting to remind me of these movies:

These cops are getting very reckless, almost vendettaish

jat26006: So the cops have declared war on blue trucks?

No, any color truck will do.

This one was Torrance PD, not LAPD.

Krieghund: Despite subby's headline, this wasn't LAPD. It was the Torrance Police Department.

And it's old news.

I came here hoping there was a lead on a vehicle Dorner is using. I haven't heard anything about vehicles missing from the Big Bear area, which leads me to suspect he's still up there.

My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention.

or, just maybe, he had another vehicle waiting there for him to use.

LA cops are out of control here. It's personal to them and LA can not discipline them. This is where the Federal Government must step in. Everybody knows that the LAPD will shoot to kill him and deny him his constitutional right to a trial.

The FBI can arrest every single LAPD cop that has anything further to do with this case. Continue to be involved LAPD cop? You are a domestic terrorist. You go to a federal holding prison in Cuba.

An armed citizen could never take on the government, they said.

Get your shiat together, LAPD.

Krieghund: Despite subby's headline, this wasn't LAPD. It was the Torrance Police Department.

And it's old news.

I came here hoping there was a lead on a vehicle Dorner is using. I haven't heard anything about vehicles missing from the Big Bear area, which leads me to suspect he's still up there.

My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention.

They're reducing the search in Big Bear, adding additional men to the security details on the named targets, and soon to be offering a reward for information leading to his capture/kill.  In other words... they have no farking clue where he is.

I don't condone any of the violence brought up in this whole issue, but after reading his manifesto, you have to hope that this brings about a huge amount of culture change in the LAPD and police departments in general.  If not to eliminate senior officers' entitlements and lack of oversight, at least in how they deal with the public.  The utter callousness he mentions about "body pictures" and deaths from crime meaning nothing but overtime to officers should incite rage in the public.

If his manifesto is to be believed, every citizen should be pushing for change.  Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if after this someone could win the mayor's job solely on an LAPD reform platform.

Of course in the real world, any organization (not just police) dealing with a formerly internal problem that has spilled out to the real world would probably just close ranks and bring organizational xenophobia to batshiat crazy levels, much like the LAPD has done.

Obama needs to send in the National Guard, and disarm the LAPD. Police Chief needs to be put on trial, and Dorner needs arrested and tried as well.

F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds."

This is a bald faced lie.  Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect.  Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag.

I bet it deflated faster with the 3 bullet holes in the back.

"In the split seconds available to them," the statement continued, "action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle."

Yes, stop those dangerous actions of the driver. Like driving along not having done anything.

When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds

Yeah, that sounds like attempted murder to me. We can't see if the driver is dead yet, so unload on him.

And just as with the two women, if Dorner had been in that vehicle, he would have been finished off by those thugs.

BTW, where is Cruiser12 and his ilk? I have only seen him in the fondling pregnant women thread defending those cops.

I in NO WAY support Dorner.  I think he's a bad bad man.  That being said, I'm starting to think that LA will en masse have to start supporting his cause just to protect themselves. WTF, LAPD???

HempHead: F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds."

This is a bald faced lie.  Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect.  Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag.

I bet it deflated faster with the 3 bullet holes in the back.

What deflated faster, the air bag or his bowels?

There is also a 0% chance that Dorner is still in or around LA. He likely isn't in CA anymore, either.

Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?

/what worse things are Dorner's alleged crimes distracting the public eye from?

*ahem*
http://gizmodo.com/5983175/report-ex+cop-christopher-dorner-is-now-a -t arget-for-drones

Don't worry, Charlie Sheen is on the case and will have it under control any time now.

F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds."

This is a bald faced lie.  Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect.  Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag.

Oh yeah? Well, what if he had one of these:

Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

penthesilea: Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?

/what worse things are Dorner's alleged crimes distracting the public eye from?

*ahem*
http://gizmodo.com/5983175/report-ex+cop-christopher-dorner-is-now-a -t arget-for-drones

The key word is "armed".

smells_like_meat: Dorner is likely long gone. Past Mexico by now. Perhaps Cuba or some other unfriendly spot. The roadblocks in LA are harassment pure and simple. "We're doing this because we can".

The psychologist's statement that "The police are not used to being hunted." is relieving. So, they are used to being the hunters? Not even a pretense of "To protect and serve?

You also have to wonder what kind of message this sends to the street gangs in LA.  You off a couple cops at a stoplight and LAPD just shiats itself in terror and falls apart.  Suddenly fighting it out with LAPD might not seem so scary.

Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

You think the police union would allow that? Better to send the officer on a paid vacation while the thinks about what he's done.

The Sybarite: or, just maybe, he had another vehicle waiting there for him to use.

It's possible. I find it unlikely though, since the police know and have accounted for any vehicles he had legally. If he had an illegal vehicle, why was he driving the truck that everyone was looking for?

And don't forget the fiasco where he tried to steal the boat in San Diego. If he had an escape plan that involved heading through San Diego, it's unlikely he'd also have a vehicle 3-4 hours away in Big Bear.

FormlessOne: Dorner's manifesto, as disturbing as it was, does make some sense. What in the hell is going on with the LAPD? "Hey, it's two chicks in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like two chicks! Shoot 'em!" "Hey, it's a skinny white guy in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like a skinny surfer! Shoot 'em!"

Perhaps someone should be less worried about Dorner and more worried about what's going on in the LAPD. It's almost as if the LAPD wants to ensure Dorner never makes it to trial.

Of course he's never going to make it to trial.  He's a highly trained (police and military) killer with nothing to loose amd a stated goal of killing lots of people... and he's had a complete mental break.  He will be shot on sight, because he has to be.

Only way he could avoid that would be to walk into some place and surrender by lying on the ground.

Frank N Stein: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

You think the police union would allow that? Better to send the officer on a paid vacation while the thinks about what he's done.

And sign over his pension to the victim.

I'm still waiting for a logical explanation of how the police actions in CA are anything less than attempted murder.  I'm all for Dorner taking a bullet, but the police in these last two incidents weren't shooting at Dorner.  In fact, they didn't know WHO they were shooting at.  Their goal was to kill the people in the vehicles, regardless of actual identity.

Reminds me of how the Iraqi "police" handled things.

They'll be coming for your guns next.

Then your "tax" money.

Then you.

ha-ha-guy: smells_like_meat: Dorner is likely long gone. Past Mexico by now. Perhaps Cuba or some other unfriendly spot. The roadblocks in LA are harassment pure and simple. "We're doing this because we can".

The psychologist's statement that "The police are not used to being hunted." is relieving. So, they are used to being the hunters? Not even a pretense of "To protect and serve?

You also have to wonder what kind of message this sends to the street gangs in LA.  You off a couple cops at a stoplight and LAPD just shiats itself in terror and falls apart.  Suddenly fighting it out with LAPD might not seem so scary.

Nah, they're prepared for that.  That's a typical criminal who they'd probably find due to his lack of planning.  This is a man who went to war and is prepared.  This is not something they're ready for, they've had every police agency looking for him, they had the NG looking in Big Bear, they used drones with FLIR, ect.  Some of us tried to tell people that before in threads on another topic.  Here is a practical example.

FTA:
... a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue.
His pickup, police later explained, matched the description of the one belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner - the ex-cop who has evaded authorities after allegedly killing three and wounding two more. But the pickups were different makes and colors. And Perdue looks nothing like Dorner: He's several inches shorter and about a hundred pounds lighter. And Perdue is white; Dorner is black.

If I lived anywhere in the LA area and had a pickup truck, I think I'd stay away from it until this is all over.

I guess Dorner really doesn't need to do anything else to get his point across now except to lay low and let the LAPD punch themselves in the balls repeatedly while the whole country watches.

Agreed: attempted murderers.

Krieghund: The Sybarite: or, just maybe, he had another vehicle waiting there for him to use.

It's possible. I find it unlikely though, since the police know and have accounted for any vehicles he had legally. If he had an illegal vehicle, why was he driving the truck that everyone was looking for?

And don't forget the fiasco where he tried to steal the boat in San Diego. If he had an escape plan that involved heading through San Diego, it's unlikely he'd also have a vehicle 3-4 hours away in Big Bear.

The San Diego thing confuses me, I tend to think it's either not true or a decoy.  Even if it was his original plan he probably had back up plans with back up plans.  I think he's in LA area still laying low waiting till the LAPD lower their guard and then attacks again causing even more panic.  I may be giving him more credit than he deserves....

Didn't the cop on the run burn his truck? The cops have zero idea what he may be driving now. How can these other cop on pickup truck shootings be happening?

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Only way he could avoid that would be to walk into some place and surrender by lying on the ground.

They would probably come up with a valid reason for shooting him in the back.

No good can come out of this. The FBI seriously needs to step in and take control of this mess before citizens get hurt from their vigilante cops.

This is a great farking movie

Hagenhatesyouall: Reminds me of how the Iraqi "police" handled things.

They'll be coming for your guns next.

Then your "tax" money.

Then you.

On the plus side, when they finally come for me, they will destroy all of those damned blue pickup trucks.

This entire episode will inspire more LEO's to be upstanding and moral, and to speak out against the wrongs and injustices perpetuated by their fellow law men.

Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

That's just flat out farking ridiculous.  How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work?

Warthog: I would gladly trade places with Mr. Perdue.  For the small cost of a concussion and a soiled pair of boxers, he's going to get an all expense paid vacation from work, a new truck, a six or perhaps seven figure tax free retirement fund, and likely a get-out-of-jail-free card good in the city of Torrance for the rest of his life.

Wouldn't count on that. Payouts are often surprisingly small when the cops are involved. I was the victim of a case of mistaken-identity-by-police. For an injury that left me with a permanent disability, I was given 20k. Small compensation for having to give up my career dreams.

So, yeah. Hope this guy fares better.

Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?

If you can wait until 4:07 EST (about half an hour from now) there's a thread on that headed for the main page.

Wait, so his burned out pick-up wasn't found in Big Bear then? I wonder what those photos were from then?

penthesilea
Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?
/what worse things are Dorner's alleged crimes distracting the public eye from?
*ahem*
http://gizmodo.com/5983175/report-ex+cop-christopher-dorner-is-now-a -t arget-for-drones

Are there armed drones running in the United States, and are they going to use missiles to blow up, lets go with a white female, this time?  Or are they just looking or heat signatures and will end up killing a camper in the mountains?

Popcorn Johnny: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

That's just flat out farking ridiculous.  How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work?

Firing a gun isn't a mistake. It's attempted murder

Officer Dorner...the gift that keeps on giving greenlights & ad moolah on FARK.

BumpInTheNight: Jesus how many times are they going to do this today?!

Enough times I, as a Californian, refuse to leave my house until I finish my "I am not Chris Dorner" t-shirts and bumper stickers to wear while in public (and to sell, apparently to women as well).

/lives in NorCal, not SoCal
//wouldn't matter in the end, though
///Dorner could be anywhere, so SHOOT THE F*CKING THING FULL OF HOLES!!!, just like Walker said upthread

steadyb: Didn't the cop on the run burn his truck? The cops have zero idea what he may be driving now. How can these other cop on pickup truck shootings be happening?

this all happened before they found the burnt out truck

Mistymtnhop: Wait, so his burned out pick-up wasn't found in Big Bear then? I wonder what those photos were from then?

It was his, dollars to doughnuts it was a diversion.  Found his ID and badge on a bus heading to an airport (land), found a hostage in a boat with a fouled propeller (sea), and found his burn out truck in the mountains (land).  He's forcing them to spread out their search.

first (land) = (air)

So Yakety Sax is now the official theme tune of the LAPD?

Got it.

KrispyKritter: This entire episode will inspire more LEO's to be upstanding and moral, and to speak out against the wrongs and injustices perpetuated by their fellow law men.

OK, you earned a "funny" vote in this very non-funny situation.

That's what happens when you wear a white belt, son.

Lost Thought 00: There is also a 0% chance that Dorner is still in or around LA. He likely isn't in CA anymore, either.

Hard to tell, and it really depends on how serious he is. If he's going full throttle on his little counter insurgency campaign, then it makes total sense for him to lay low for a few days while the various police departments run themselves ragged doing overtime and chasing down every small lead. They've got literally hundreds of officers just pulling guard duty for the LAPD brass. Their schedules are not designed for this.

As soon as everyone's frazzled and ready to ease off a bit, bang - hit a target that they weren't expecting. Kick the whole thing back into high gear. All the while, the public is increasingly convinced that the cops are a bunch of incompetent bullies.

I don't think Farkers realize how dangerous Dorner is. Any black man who can disguise himself as two white women and a white man driving two separate vehicles is a menace to civilization as we know it. Disguising himself as President Obama on Air Force One would be a piece of cake.

Fail in Human Form: Mistymtnhop: Wait, so his burned out pick-up wasn't found in Big Bear then? I wonder what those photos were from then?

It was his, dollars to doughnuts it was a diversion.  Found his ID and badge on a bus heading to an airport (land), found a hostage in a boat with a fouled propeller (sea), and found his burn out truck in the mountains (land).  He's forcing them to spread out their search.

The axle on his truck was broken suggesting leaving it there wasn't part of the plan.

Cmdr. Andrew Smith said he and Beck met separately with the two women Saturday. The truck will be purchased using money from donors, Smith said.

Hey, I got a better idea.  How about you take the money out of the farking police chief's salary, then, once it is paid off, you fire him and everyone else involved in the incident and bar them from even working mall security for the rest of their lives?  These farking thugs think they live in another farking world where their actions have no consequences, and actions like this just reinforce that idea.

penthesilea: Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?

/what worse things are Dorner's alleged crimes distracting the public eye from?

*ahem*
http://gizmodo.com/5983175/report-ex+cop-christopher-dorner-is-now-a -t arget-for-drones

Mein gott.

He killed a cop, as far as they are concerned he gets no trial, they will keep shooting him until the clips are empty.

I'm starting to think this was part of psycho-cop's plan.

Hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo husband cause they shootin' everbody out here!

The absurdity has gotten to the point that I will suggest that not only should the folks falsely targeted should get paid but the officers involved should have to pay a deductible for the damages.  That deductible should be their pension funds.  Use that money before using taxpayer money.  It would help a lot of cities fix their budgets if the officers all around this country who caused their city to be sued for dumb garbage like this had to lose their pensions to pay for the damage they caused.  I really don't care if they only have a few dollars to retire on because they shot some 70 year old woman for looking like a man, years before.

Lost Thought 00
Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker.

You really want policing to become one of those more dangerous jobs, like taxi driver, or construction worker. Then police might have to earn that hero status among parts of the demographic in the US that reads newspapers and watches local new.

styckx: Fail in Human Form: Mistymtnhop: Wait, so his burned out pick-up wasn't found in Big Bear then? I wonder what those photos were from then?

It was his, dollars to doughnuts it was a diversion.  Found his ID and badge on a bus heading to an airport (land), found a hostage in a boat with a fouled propeller (sea), and found his burn out truck in the mountains (land).  He's forcing them to spread out their search.

The axle on his truck was broken suggesting leaving it there wasn't part of the plan.

Also possible, if he's found in the woods we'll know for sure.

SubBass49: Officer Dorner...the gift that keeps on giving greenlights & ad moolah on FARK.

I got bored of the gun threads so this is a breath of fresh air to me.

wataga123: He killed a cop, as far as they are concerned he gets no trial, they will keep shooting him until the clips are empty.

Their regular firearms should be replaced by muskets until after Dorner is captured.

Mrtraveler01: SubBass49: Officer Dorner...the gift that keeps on giving greenlights & ad moolah on FARK.

I got bored of the gun threads so this is a breath of fresh air to me.

Me too...plus I'm near San Diego...got to see the freeway signs saying to call 911 about his truck on the way to work Thursday morning...

SubBass49: Mrtraveler01: SubBass49: Officer Dorner...the gift that keeps on giving greenlights & ad moolah on FARK.

I got bored of the gun threads so this is a breath of fresh air to me.

Me too...plus I'm near San Diego...got to see the freeway signs saying to call 911 about his truck on the way to work Thursday morning...

I imagine this is the only thing the news in Southern California is covering huh?

His name is Christopher Dorner.

Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

I have a better idea: how about we just take away their farking guns, period?  Give the stupid thugs nothing more that a billy club and they might have to *gasp* try to actually think their way through a situation instead of defaulting to opening fire.

And we're supposed to believe Dorner is dangerous because he received the same training that these other blithering idiots had?  Cops don't like it when "shoot first ask questions later" tactics are used on them?

StrangeQ: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

I have a better idea: how about we just take away their farking guns, period?  Give the stupid thugs nothing more that a billy club and they might have to *gasp* try to actually think their way through a situation instead of defaulting to opening fire.

That would not end how you hope it would.

styckx: Fail in Human Form: Mistymtnhop: Wait, so his burned out pick-up wasn't found in Big Bear then? I wonder what those photos were from then?

It was his, dollars to doughnuts it was a diversion.  Found his ID and badge on a bus heading to an airport (land), found a hostage in a boat with a fouled propeller (sea), and found his burn out truck in the mountains (land).  He's forcing them to spread out their search.

The axle on his truck was broken suggesting leaving it there wasn't part of the plan.

I read somewhere this morning that they're not certain the axle was already broken. It may have been broken in the process of being towed.

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Only way he could avoid that would be to walk into some place and surrender by lying on the ground.

You think that'd help?

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DontMakeMeComeBackThere: FormlessOne: Dorner's manifesto, as disturbing as it was, does make some sense. What in the hell is going on with the LAPD? "Hey, it's two chicks in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like two chicks! Shoot 'em!" "Hey, it's a skinny white guy in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like a skinny surfer! Shoot 'em!"

Perhaps someone should be less worried about Dorner and more worried about what's going on in the LAPD. It's almost as if the LAPD wants to ensure Dorner never makes it to trial.

Of course he's never going to make it to trial.  He's a highly trained (police and military) killer with nothing to loose amd a stated goal of killing lots of people... and he's had a complete mental break.  He will be shot on sight, because he has to be.

Only way he could avoid that would be to walk into some place and surrender by lying on the ground.

Since nothing is too crazy here...

I wonder if part of his plan is to die a martyr.  Being murdered by the LAPD on tape as he is peacefully surrendering might just clear his name (in the eye of the public) and actually bring about some reform Rodney King style.

Snatch Bandergrip: This is a great farking movie

I know. All we need now is the Batman.

Slappajo: And we're supposed to believe Dorner is dangerous because he received the same training that these other blithering idiots had?  Cops don't like it when "shoot first ask questions later" tactics are used on them?

If you're really paying attention, listening to the scanner (before they killed the Big Bear feed due to all the open mics allowing us to listen in on the TAC channels lol), ect.  The lessons learned from this are not about the shooting, but about his ability to evade the authorities.

I don't know if Dorner is guilty or if there is a one-legged man running around. Assuming Dorner is guilty, he is a murderer on people that didn't appear to directly wrong him and that is a bad thing.

He does have a sense of humor and I like what he is showing of his personality, other then possibly being a farking cold-blooded murder.

If I had to choose a side, police running around shooting random Japanese pickup drivers and shooting at them, not being able to hit the broadside of a barn while on a manhunt hit job, I guess Dorner is more likeable in PR sense.

What is impressive is Dorner almost seemed to know that after his little manifesto, that the LAPD (and other areas) would f**king loose it and become their own worst enemy.

Mrtraveler01: SubBass49: Mrtraveler01: SubBass49: Officer Dorner...the gift that keeps on giving greenlights & ad moolah on FARK.

I got bored of the gun threads so this is a breath of fresh air to me.

Me too...plus I'm near San Diego...got to see the freeway signs saying to call 911 about his truck on the way to work Thursday morning...

I imagine this is the only thing the news in Southern California is covering huh?

Not really...sadly.  They still have time to talk about just about everything BUT this situation.

Just an example, the San Diego anti-Union Tribune Has the following top stories on their page (in order):
- Love letters from History's front lines
- Panel clears Chargers doctor
- Aztecs blow out Fresno State
- Padres fan-fest
- Chinese new year
- Some Bruce Springsteen story
- Gun Control, pro, con, and in the middle
- Beach Boys pushing historic designation for a surf spot
- New England digs out

Then you scroll down to the 7th lowest story on the page after those, and you see a Dorner story...

Farktastic: I don't condone any of the violence brought up in this whole issue, but after reading his manifesto, you have to hope that this brings about a huge amount of culture change in the LAPD and police departments in general.  If not to eliminate senior officers' entitlements and lack of oversight, at least in how they deal with the public.  The utter callousness he mentions about "body pictures" and deaths from crime meaning nothing but overtime to officers should incite rage in the public.

If his manifesto is to be believed, every citizen should be pushing for change.  Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if after this someone could win the mayor's job solely on an LAPD reform platform.

Of course in the real world, any organization (not just police) dealing with a formerly internal problem that has spilled out to the real world would probably just close ranks and bring organizational xenophobia to batshiat crazy levels, much like the LAPD has done.

Remember the Rampart scandal in the late 90's?  The fallout from that supposedly helped clean up the LAPD.  Maybe they've gone back to their old ways.  Im not sure who to believe here,  Why do many farkers automatically believe this guys manifesto?  Regardless, if this guy is putting hits out on LAPD and/or their families then fark him.  There are other ways to go about whistle blowing and unlawful termination without getting all shooty.

Likewise if the LAPD and in this case the Torrance PD are running around shooting up trucks without IDing the drivers, then those cops need to go on trial and let a jury sort it out.

# of times LAPD is used in this thread: 57
# of times Torrance is used in this thread: 9

If you want to rage against the machine and all that jazz so be it but at least pull your heads out of your asses before doing so. The rush to crucify the LAPD, as well as the at times resulting rush to defend Dorner, is lunacy.

The Osama Bin Laden school of Making your Point.

\it's as if he knew police would go ape if he shot one or 2 of em
\\probably holed up somewhere, watching the news and laughing

Gotta admit, the guy is correct about the LA cops.
In fact, they are proving every hour that they are way beyond anything he can claim.

THIS is why you are charged and empowered by The Constitution to arm, train and defend yourself and your family.
Consider declaring Civil Law and lock down the LAPD for your own safety.

Are you scared yet?

http://youtu.be/cpNZ22z7B7w

you should be.

I think until this is over every person in California should stay home.  For your own good citizen.

Fail in Human Form: Slappajo: And we're supposed to believe Dorner is dangerous because he received the same training that these other blithering idiots had?  Cops don't like it when "shoot first ask questions later" tactics are used on them?

If you're really paying attention, listening to the scanner (before they killed the Big Bear feed due to all the open mics allowing us to listen in on the TAC channels lol), ect.  The lessons learned from this are not about the shooting, but about his ability to evade the authorities.

I don't know. Everyone is acting like this motherfarker is a hardened Marine who crawled 20 miles in a month invading terrorists to hunt his prey. Dude was in the farking Navy.. At most he can shoot guns better than most other than that he has sea legs..

Fail in Human Form:
If you're really paying attention, listening to the scanner (before they killed the Big Bear feed due to all the open mics allowing us to listen in on the TAC channels lol), ect.  The lessons learned from this are not about the shooting, but about his ability to evade the authorities.

So he's sneaky too?

Look, I hate to be "that guy" who admits there might be teeniest possibility of a 1% justification for police brutality, but.

Based on the guy's looks and the fact that he's a surfer and that he drives a blue pick-up, I'm not so sure this guy wasn't stupid enough to get it into his head to play a little "joke" on the police after being stopped and questioned.  "So they're having manhunt.  Wouldn't it be funny if I made a beeline for the next police car I saw as if I was a suicide bomber?  Then I'd turn away at the last minute.  We'd all get a kick out of that."

This is probably not what happened.  I have no reason to believe that's what happened.  All I'm saying is, if that was what happened, it wouldn't surprise me.

Krieghund: Despite subby's headline, this wasn't LAPD. It was the Torrance Police Department.

And it's old news.

I came here hoping there was a lead on a vehicle Dorner is using. I haven't heard anything about vehicles missing from the Big Bear area, which leads me to suspect he's still up there.

My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention.

With what you know regarding this case, what leads you to believe that this man would be unaware of the weather conditions in and around the San Berbard mountain area that he would drive all the way up there, torch his truck, apparently the same truck the police are still shooting at whenever they see it, and then trek off into the forest to freeze to death? Doesn't really fit what we know the facts to be, does it?
And if he burned his truck on Friday why were cops shooting and ramming the same type of truck he had on Saturday?

PacificaFitz: steadyb: Didn't the cop on the run burn his truck? The cops have zero idea what he may be driving now. How can these other cop on pickup truck shootings be happening?

this all happened before they found the burnt out truck

Well, then people driving Nisan Titanish trucks should be OK now.

Farkers seems to be confused between these two separate city's finest.

SubBass49: Mrtraveler01: SubBass49: Mrtraveler01: SubBass49: Officer Dorner...the gift that keeps on giving greenlights & ad moolah on FARK.

I got bored of the gun threads so this is a breath of fresh air to me.

Me too...plus I'm near San Diego...got to see the freeway signs saying to call 911 about his truck on the way to work Thursday morning...

I imagine this is the only thing the news in Southern California is covering huh?

Not really...sadly.  They still have time to talk about just about everything BUT this situation.

Just an example, the San Diego anti-Union Tribune Has the following top stories on their page (in order):
- Love letters from History's front lines
- Panel clears Chargers doctor
- Aztecs blow out Fresno State
- Padres fan-fest
- Chinese new year
- Some Bruce Springsteen story
- Gun Control, pro, con, and in the middle
- Beach Boys pushing historic designation for a surf spot
- New England digs out

Then you scroll down to the 7th lowest story on the page after those, and you see a Dorner story...

Good lord their web page design is a clusterfark!

Well you know the FBI isn't going to do anything after seeing that kid who got his face turned into hamburger and an $800,000 check for his trouble. They wouldn't go for abuse of authority let alone attempted murder. I say fourth time lucky and the next civilian they open up on is going to die. For the SoCal law enforcement personnel's future reference: Nat Turner Christopher Dorden Surfer Dude Slappajo: Fail in Human Form: If you're really paying attention, listening to the scanner (before they killed the Big Bear feed due to all the open mics allowing us to listen in on the TAC channels lol), ect. The lessons learned from this are not about the shooting, but about his ability to evade the authorities. So he's sneaky too? His history shows he's a fark up. So until he's found we won't be sure if he did those things intentionally or just farked up. Chinchillazilla: Snatch Bandergrip: This is a great farking movie I know. All we need now is the Batman. "Los Angeles...take control. Take control of your city!" DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Only way he could avoid that would be to walk into some place and surrender by lying on the ground. Where he would be shot on site for 'resisting' If the police truely are that incompetant and dangerous the governor or else the potus needs to declare martial law and get these boobs out of the picture Is anyone else reminded of an action movie? You know, the one where an honest cop gets on the wrong side of his corrupt colleagues, gets framed for a crime and then has to fight to evade his former colleagues who wish to kill him and hunt for the evidence to prove his innocence at the same time? Why have the cops been so happy to use violence to bring him down, hurting innocents while doing so? Oldiron_79: If the police truely are that incompetant and dangerous the governor or else the potus needs to declare martial law and get these boobs out of the picture Let me crawl into Donner's head for a moment.... *oh please, pretty please with sugar on top* Igor Jakovsky: Remember the Rampart scandal in the late 90's? The fallout from that supposedly helped clean up the LAPD. Maybe they've gone back to their old ways. Im not sure who to believe here, Why do many farkers automatically believe this guys manifesto? Regardless, if this guy is putting hits out on LAPD and/or their families then fark him. There are other ways to go about whistle blowing and unlawful termination without getting all shooty. Like what? File a report? A complaint? Do you really think, with the rampant police corruption in this country, that such a thing would have any effect at all? The police have shown that they are good at one thing and one thing only: protecting their own. They don't give a damn about you or anyone else who isn't carrying a badge. But go ahead, blow that whistle. If you stick around long enough you might even get to see one of them carrying the paperwork off to the bathroom so they can wipe their ass with it before flushing it down the drain. DAMN autocorrect: Dorner. greentea1985: Why have the cops been so happy to use violence to bring him down, hurting innocents while doing so? I'd say they're jumpy as hell, knowing a guy with that kind of arsenal and nothing to lose wants them all dead. I don't necessarily blame them for being jumpy...especially since they were staked out at the home of one of his listed targets. /that said, they should get their asses sued off... //News conference popping on TV right now...brb "They don't know where he is, and they're going to be edgy and jumpy," she said. "Don't get in their way. They're in a special state of consciousness right now, and they're not used to being hunted." I don't like innocents being hurt, but this thing with corrupt police offers being hunted? Total enjoyment. LA Mayor just offered up a$1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc.

This is just insane.  I have no hate for the police and I'm certain there are plenty of good officers but there is just no way to justify this.  It sends the message that if you are driving a truck similar to what Dorner had and a police officer spots you, you will probably be shot at.

It's been a while since I watched the Shield, but didn't they do something like this in one of the seasons?  I'm sure I remember an officer of the farm getting injured/killed and the strike team basically going all out to kill the perp before he could be brought to justice.  And causing plenty of collateral damage along the way.

Perhaps the LAPD just wanted to prove that Vic Mackey is nothing compared to them.

I'm certainly not a cop hater as much as the Liberals...but this entire ongoing issue here just brings up the classic Chris Rock line when I think about what Dorner is doing:

I don't condone it, I wouldn't do it....but I understand.

LA Mayor:  "If you see Mr. Dorner, or even SUSPECT that you see, do not approach him..."

No shiat.

Fail in Human Form: Krieghund: Despite subby's headline, this wasn't LAPD. It was the Torrance Police Department.

And it's old news.

I came here hoping there was a lead on a vehicle Dorner is using. I haven't heard anything about vehicles missing from the Big Bear area, which leads me to suspect he's still up there.

My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention.

They're reducing the search in Big Bear, adding additional men to the security details on the named targets, and soon to be offering a reward for information leading to his capture/kill.  In other words... they have no farking clue where he is.

So much this. This is exactly what I thought when I saw they found the burned truck. Dorner isn't some stupid meth-head running from the police, he's smart and he's thought this out, he didn't just snap and go on a rampage. He drove to Big Bear, burned his truck, then walked a mile to his other vehicle. He's been out of there for days.

If Dormer is up to what they say he's up to, he's not going to run out of the country or commit suicide. That would be pointless. Mostly because he's not made a good point yet. Cages of police forces everywhere need to be rattled, but I doubt this will be the trigger.

$1 million reward is the largest local reward ever offered according to LAPD chief... ZzeusS: "They don't know where he is, and they're going to be edgy and jumpy," she said. "Don't get in their way. They're in a special state of consciousness right now, and they're not used to being hunted." I don't like innocents being hurt, but this thing with corrupt police offers being hunted? Total enjoyment. Yeah; a "special state of consciousness" usually only attained by minorities and poors that find themselves targeted by corrupt police. LAPD chief: "...this is about preventing a future-crime..." "Help us to protect you..." How Orwellian sounding that was... SuperNinjaToad: Farkers seems to be confused between these two separate city's finest. worst. [opinion.latimes.com image 200x226] [www.vandvmfg.com image 180x248] FTFY Fail in Human Form: If you're really paying attention, listening to the scanner (before they killed the Big Bear feed due to all the open mics allowing us to listen in on the TAC channels lol), ect. The lessons learned from this are not about the shooting, but about his ability to evade the authorities. Do you have links? TIA! SubBass49: LA Mayor: "If you see Mr. Dorner, or even SUSPECT that you see, do not approach him..." No shiat. "Lie down and pretend you're dead!", "He's afraid of you as much as you are afraid of him." SubBass49: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x500] LA Mayor just offered up a$1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc.

It will never be paid. Rewards are never actually paid out anymore. Their lawyers will find some wiggle room to get out of it

The FBI needs to stop this. Pronto. The LAPD cannot ram and open fire for no reason.

So the reward is for capture and conviction?  That $1MM will never be seen by anyone even if they do rat him out. There is no way he is going to be "convicted" in court. If Dorner was telling the truth about applying asymetrical warfare to the police and has gotten away with it this far I have to assume he's laughing his ass of somewhere safe watching them get into a tizzy and making his points. But after a few months have gone by people will relax. That's when I'd suspect he'd try something. Lost Thought 00: SubBass49: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x500] LA Mayor just offered up a$1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc.

It will never be paid. Rewards are never actually paid out anymore. Their lawyers will find some wiggle room to get out of it

Based on what the LAPD chief said, most of the money came from various police unions and associations...a hit-fund so-to-speak...

Slappajo: So the reward is for capture and conviction?  That $1MM will never be seen by anyone even if they do rat him out. There is no way he is going to be "convicted" in court. Smart post is smart. flexflint: Fail in Human Form: If you're really paying attention, listening to the scanner (before they killed the Big Bear feed due to all the open mics allowing us to listen in on the TAC channels lol), ect. The lessons learned from this are not about the shooting, but about his ability to evade the authorities. Do you have links? TIA! There's an ongoing second thread here http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1438170_WAR_DECLARED_ON_LAPD_______2 . html just dig through it. Good thing this guy was in San Diego, and not in LA; he'd probably be dead: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Man-Mistaken-f or-Manhunt-Suspect -190284481.html At least he matches the general description of Dorner. FormlessOne: Dorner's manifesto, as disturbing as it was, does make some sense. What in the hell is going on with the LAPD? "Hey, it's two chicks in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like two chicks! Shoot 'em!" "Hey, it's a skinny white guy in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like a skinny surfer! Shoot 'em!" Perhaps someone should be less worried about Dorner and more worried about what's going on in the LAPD. It's almost as if the LAPD wants to ensure Dorner never makes it to trial. That's what I've been saying, no way they're ever gonna let him under oath. Mistymtnhop: Krieghund: My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention. With what you know regarding this case, what leads you to believe that this man would be unaware of the weather conditions in and around the San Berbard mountain area that he would drive all the way up there, torch his truck, apparently the same truck the police are still shooting at whenever they see it, and then trek off into the forest to freeze to death? Doesn't really fit what we know the facts to be, does it? And if he burned his truck on Friday why were cops shooting and ramming the same type of truck he had on Saturday? You need a scorecard to follow this story but: (1) Dorner was perfectly aware of the weather conditions in the S.B. Mts, he had survival gear in his truck. But news stories in the past day or two have added the information that his truck, off on a Forest Service fire road, turned out to have a broken axle which very much suggests he was forced to stop short of wherever he was headed. Meaning he had to improvise with whatever he could carry. (2) The LA Times story in TFA is describing something that happened on Thursday, long before Dorner's burnt truck was discovered. I'm betting that Krieghund will turn out to be right. Though if Dorner decided to take himself out of the game, I'd bet that he did so in the most out-of-the-way place he could find, figuring the search for him would have to continue basically forever. SubBass49: Lost Thought 00: SubBass49: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x500] LA Mayor just offered up a$1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc.

It will never be paid. Rewards are never actually paid out anymore. Their lawyers will find some wiggle room to get out of it

Based on what the LAPD chief said, most of the money came from various police unions and associations...a hit-fund so-to-speak...

You mean like a "bounty"?

Boy...Roger Goodell won't like this one bit.

orclover: Are you scared yet?

http://youtu.be/cpNZ22z7B7w

you should be.

I think until this is over every person in California should stay home.  For your own good citizen.

That news story needs its own thread,

Mrtraveler01:
You mean like a "bounty"?

Boy...Roger Goodell won't like this one bit.

Said it in another thread, but no one will see this money.  The police chief said it was for capture AND conviction.  This is not going to court.

The women were victims of 'a tragic misinterpretation' by officers working under 'incredible tension,' LAPD Chief Charlie Beck says.

You guys just totally validated Dorner's case.

Way to go, you idiots.

They did it again? Bunch of farking jokers. Fark the LAPD. I hope that Dorner guy goes out with a bang.

Keystone Kops in San Diego arrest man at 24-Hour Fitness because he looked like Dorner. And more hilariousness from SDPD!

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Chris-Dorner-Horton-Plaza-Down to wn-San-Diego-Sighting-190399431.html

Owangotang: # of times LAPD is used in this thread: 57
# of times Torrance is used in this thread: 9

If you want to rage against the machine and all that jazz so be it but at least pull your heads out of your asses before doing so. The rush to crucify the LAPD, as well as the at times resulting rush to defend Dorner, is lunacy.

Perhaps the rush to defend the LAPD is "lunacy"?

Their reaction to these disgusting events seems pretty farking crazy to me, and certainly not "professional".

Seen procuring saddles & horses and heading for Los Angeles...

SubBass49: [www.gannett-cdn.com image 534x402]

Seen procuring saddles & horses and heading for Los Angeles...

Nah, the shooter isn't white.

studebaker hoch: [www.trbimg.com image 580x378]

The women were victims of 'a tragic misinterpretation' by officers working under 'incredible tension,' LAPD Chief Charlie Beck says.

You guys just totally validated Dorner's case.

Way to go, you idiots.

This is why only cops should have guns. The professionalism and the marksmanship is tagged throughout that vehicle. Only cops, with their intense training, are capable of the safe operation of firearms.

Man, wouldn't it be cool if all cops were like, "Yeah, we're TOTALLY gonna get this guy!"- when it came to regular heinous crimes?

You know, instead of getting all bandwagony, and manhunt'ish when some creepy, renegade, emotionally charged, vendetta-driven, rambo ex-cop dunderhead starts targeting one of their own and their families? Man, that'd be neato!

Blood flows in the streets of LA due to gang violence NIGHTLY:
Typical police response: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Blood flows in the streets of LA because an ex-cop starts targeting people behind the 'Thin Blue Line':
Police response: WHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRR!!!!!! THIS SHALL NOT STAND!  UNACCEPTABLE!!! WHAAAAARRRR!!!! JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED!!!

And then all the cops get trigger happy; paranoid.  Which in turn makes the citizens trigger happy...and paranoid.

OK, show of hands.

How many are afraid of this guy?
How many are afraid of the local police proving his position?

thought so

We'd all be much safer if we'd just turn in our guns.  If we do that then Dorner wont have any guns either.  Oh wait, he won't comply because he knows the pigs are trigger happy fascists happy to murder you for the hell of it.

StrangeQ: Igor Jakovsky: Remember the Rampart scandal in the late 90's?  The fallout from that supposedly helped clean up the LAPD.  Maybe they've gone back to their old ways.  Im not sure who to believe here,  Why do many farkers automatically believe this guys manifesto?  Regardless, if this guy is putting hits out on LAPD and/or their families then fark him.  There are other ways to go about whistle blowing and unlawful termination without getting all shooty.

Like what?  File a report?  A complaint?  Do you really think, with the rampant police corruption in this country, that such a thing would have any effect at all?  The police have shown that they are good at one thing and one thing only: protecting their own.  They don't give a damn about you or anyone else who isn't carrying a badge.  But go ahead, blow that whistle.  If you stick around long enough you might even get to see one of them carrying the paperwork off to the bathroom so they can wipe their ass with it before flushing it down the drain.

In what world do you think targeting cops and their families is an acceptable response to perceived corruption?  Again, I ask, how do you know everything that he claims is true?  In my original response when the Rampart scandal came to light, the perpetrators were farked and the CRASH program was shut down.  Like I said you can fight corruption without getting shooty.

Lost Thought 00: Obama needs to send in the National Guard, and disarm the LAPD. Police Chief needs to be put on trial, and Dorner needs arrested and tried as well.

Friend of mine's parents were staunch republican voting fundamentalist Christians. They were saying that forty years ago.

SubBass49: [www.gannett-cdn.com image 534x402]

Seen procuring saddles & horses and heading for Los Angeles...

I thought it was "Horses and Bayonets", saddles?

Igor Jakovsky: StrangeQ: Igor Jakovsky: Remember the Rampart scandal in the late 90's?  The fallout from that supposedly helped clean up the LAPD.  Maybe they've gone back to their old ways.  Im not sure who to believe here,  Why do many farkers automatically believe this guys manifesto?  Regardless, if this guy is putting hits out on LAPD and/or their families then fark him.  There are other ways to go about whistle blowing and unlawful termination without getting all shooty.

Like what?  File a report?  A complaint?  Do you really think, with the rampant police corruption in this country, that such a thing would have any effect at all?  The police have shown that they are good at one thing and one thing only: protecting their own.  They don't give a damn about you or anyone else who isn't carrying a badge.  But go ahead, blow that whistle.  If you stick around long enough you might even get to see one of them carrying the paperwork off to the bathroom so they can wipe their ass with it before flushing it down the drain.

In what world do you think targeting cops and their families is an acceptable response to perceived corruption?  Again, I ask, how do you know everything that he claims is true?  In my original response when the Rampart scandal came to light, the perpetrators were farked and the CRASH program was shut down.  Like I said you can fight corruption without getting shooty.

Nice fanasy.
Never happen IRL.
citation? see: History

Has anyone called Charlie Sheen yet, pretending to be Dorner?

Mrs. Beasley: Keystone Kops in San Diego arrest man at 24-Hour Fitness because he looked like Dorner. And more hilariousness from SDPD!

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Chris-Dorner-Horton-Plaza-Down to wn-San-Diego-Sighting-190399431.html

I have to at least give the SD Police credit for not shooting at someone who, at the very least, matches Dorner's general description. The people in this story and the two women delivering newspapers, looked nothing like Dorner, and the only thing they had in common with Dorner was that they were driving a pick-up truck.

Fortunately for innocent bystanders they attempt to kill, cops are mostly terrible shots.

Cops just offered a $1M bounty on this guy. That is vastly in excess of any that have been offered for people who weren't targeting cops, just children and other innocent people. Chief Beck even proudly pointed this out during the press conference. 'As a society, we value our Law Enforcement!' Yeah, thanks Lou. ZzeusS: I don't like innocents being hurt, but this thing with corrupt police offers being hunted? Total enjoyment. It's just a shame that he isn't some far right winger instead of a left winger... Because then he would be MONSTER. Frank N Stein The professionalism and the marksmanship is tagged throughout that vehicle. Only cops, with their intense training, are capable of the safe operation of firearms. I have no "cop-hate", but that is so wrong that I don't know what to think anymore. I can't believe that picture is real. I thought Dorner burned his pickup truck? randomjsa: ZzeusS: I don't like innocents being hurt, but this thing with corrupt police offers being hunted? Total enjoyment. It's just a shame that he isn't some far right winger instead of a left winger... Because then he would be MONSTER. Where would you be without your perpetual persecution complex. Christ, what a bunch of assholes. Fail in Human Form: thread Thanks! At this point I think the safest course of action would be to simply re-open Alcatraz and ship any of the police doing stupid shiat because "Dorner" and just lock them in there. Then tourists will have something to look at as they pass through and they will know that they are truly scum. At this point it is like saying "Dorner" is a free ticket for the police down in Southern California, more so than usually. ha-ha-guy: smells_like_meat: Dorner is likely long gone. Past Mexico by now. Perhaps Cuba or some other unfriendly spot. The roadblocks in LA are harassment pure and simple. "We're doing this because we can". The psychologist's statement that "The police are not used to being hunted." is relieving. So, they are used to being the hunters? Not even a pretense of "To protect and serve? You also have to wonder what kind of message this sends to the street gangs in LA. You off a couple cops at a stoplight and LAPD just shiats itself in terror and falls apart. Suddenly fighting it out with LAPD might not seem so scary. Thats why I think people are crazy if they think the police department could ever confiscate guns from an entire city. Wow, the LAPD and whomever else wants this guy dead, and FAST. Wonder why? Terminating officers because they expose a culture of lying, racism (from the academy), and excessive use of force will immediately change. PSB can not police their own and that has been proven. The blue line will forever be severed and a cultural change will be implanted. You have awoken a sleeping giant.I am here to change and make policy. The culture of LAPD versus the community and honest/good officers needs to and will change. I am here to correct and calibrate your morale compasses to true north. steadyb: Didn't the cop on the run burn his truck? The cops have zero idea what he may be driving now. How can these other cop on pickup truck shootings be happening? Cops are very scared. They even manged to shoot 40 bullets into the back of the truck with the old ladys that was "approaching" a house. LOL. randomjsa: ZzeusS: I don't like innocents being hurt, but this thing with corrupt police offers being hunted? Total enjoyment. It's just a shame that he isn't some far right winger instead of a left winger... Because then he would be MONSTER. Uh, only a farking asshole who should kill himself would call him a "left winger". Especially given how he had high praise for many prominent conservatives. But I'm guessing any reading you did of his "manifesto" was through the heavily edited, poop eating retards eye view of your freeper and stormfront idiot friends. But you sadly continue to waste valuable oxygen, and precious bandwidth spewing your retardation. I'm guessing you either work for, or spend a lot of spare time blowing the LAPD. In other news, Southern California insurance rates for dark colored pickup trucks skyrocket. Holy crap they're really afraid of him, aren't they? Just be damned glad they don't have nukes. They are only serving their thirst for revenge. I feel bad for any innocents that inadvertentlyget in the way of cop payback. Funny all the cops apologists and resident Fark LEOs seem to have disappeared. SoxSweepAgain: Wow, the LAPD and whomever else wants this guy dead, and FAST. Wonder why? Geraldo Rivera? snocone: Just be damned glad they don't have nukes. Yep. If LAPD had its way California would be nothing but a glass parking lot all the way from the Mexican border to Humboldt county. studebaker hoch: Frank N Stein The professionalism and the marksmanship is tagged throughout that vehicle. Only cops, with their intense training, are capable of the safe operation of firearms. I have no "cop-hate", but that is so wrong that I don't know what to think anymore. I can't believe that picture is real. It's real. Seven cops emptied their weapons into that pickup, hitting the 71 year old Hispanic woman (back seat - folding newspapers) in the back twice. Her daughter (driving) was injured by flying broken glass. The Seven cops involved are on paid vacation administrative leave, and will continue to be until they are absolved of all wrongdoing - which could take several days. nmemkha: Funny all the cops apologists and resident Fark LEOs seem to have disappeared. So have the farkers from the gun grabbing threads who said "the government will just mow you all down if you oppose them and don't turn them in". /Don't worry though, give it one media cycle and they'll both be back Seriously, guys, and I'm talking to my brother and sister LEO's here, quit shooting at anything that moves. The odds of you actually pulling this guy over are slim, and before you pull your sidearm and start hosing a vehicle down, you might want to restrain yourself long enough to IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET, let alone determine he's armed and a threat. Comon guys, you know better. Relax a bit. I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? Long answer: Yes. snocone: Igor Jakovsky: StrangeQ: Igor Jakovsky: Remember the Rampart scandal in the late 90's? The fallout from that supposedly helped clean up the LAPD. Maybe they've gone back to their old ways. Im not sure who to believe here, Why do many farkers automatically believe this guys manifesto? Regardless, if this guy is putting hits out on LAPD and/or their families then fark him. There are other ways to go about whistle blowing and unlawful termination without getting all shooty. Like what? File a report? A complaint? Do you really think, with the rampant police corruption in this country, that such a thing would have any effect at all? The police have shown that they are good at one thing and one thing only: protecting their own. They don't give a damn about you or anyone else who isn't carrying a badge. But go ahead, blow that whistle. If you stick around long enough you might even get to see one of them carrying the paperwork off to the bathroom so they can wipe their ass with it before flushing it down the drain. In what world do you think targeting cops and their families is an acceptable response to perceived corruption? Again, I ask, how do you know everything that he claims is true? In my original response when the Rampart scandal came to light, the perpetrators were farked and the CRASH program was shut down. Like I said you can fight corruption without getting shooty. Nice fanasy. Never happen IRL. citation? see: History Where was anything in my post historically inaccurate? I provided an example of what happened when corruption was found in the LAPD and uncovered, the perpetrators and their program were sacked, Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? No need, the next time the LAPD mows down a minority there'll be riots. SubBass49: Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? Long answer: Yes. Next Q: how many (police alleged) shootings would have to occur? /you see where I'm headed Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? It's an Authoritarian's wet dream. Fail in Human Form: Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? No need, the next time the LAPD mows down a minority there'll be riots. Dorner has essentially lobbed the shiat in the direction of the fan...it may hit the fan based on it's own current trajectory, or the LAPD may end up helping it to get there faster. Either way, some crazier stuff is gonna go down before this is all over... Owangotang: # of times LAPD is used in this thread: 57 # of times Torrance is used in this thread: 9 If you want to rage against the machine and all that jazz so be it but at least pull your heads out of your asses before doing so. The rush to crucify the LAPD, as well as the at times resulting rush to defend Dorner, is lunacy. There's probably a reason why the LAPD gets mentioned so much more than Dorner in this thread. Krieghund: Despite subby's headline, this wasn't LAPD. It was the Torrance Police Department. And it's old news. I came here hoping there was a lead on a vehicle Dorner is using. I haven't heard anything about vehicles missing from the Big Bear area, which leads me to suspect he's still up there. My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention. /thats my call too. He's probably pulled into a forest trail somewhere with a bullet in his head. Pussies like this usually off themselves. Would be a shame if the LAPD killed a few innocent folk trying to get the guy that was already dead. Glancing Blow: SubBass49: Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? Long answer: Yes. Next Q: how many (police alleged) shootings would have to occur? /you see where I'm headed Too many conspiracy movie plots are now running through my head. Feel like this whole thing is a screen-writer's wet dream... It wasn't the screwup that speaks so loudly to me, even though it was an unjustifiable epic fail in every way. It was the LAPD official response; "The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances - and these were far from normal circumstances - to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk. In the split seconds available to them, action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle." That is the LAPD for you; Nothing to see here, move along. /Godspeed Dorner, and happy hunting. Please get some more of them off the streets for us, God knows no one else will. You know what, I usually label anyone advocating violence against police officers on fark as trolls/idiots. But at this point, I'm going to have to make two suggestions: No one in LA leave their homes until this guy is caught. And if you see a cop? Shoot first. Obama needs to deploy the army or national guard to protect the citizens of LA from the police. SubBass49: Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? Long answer: Yes. Who would enforce this martial law? ONE GUY has 20,000 LEO's all over SoCal wearing Depends under their Kevlar. What would happen if there were TWO guys? 20? 200? Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? I'm a marshal, and I'm proud I used to be alone in a crowd But now you look around these days There seems to be a marshal craze I'm a marshal, he's a marshal, she's a marshal too Glancing Blow: SubBass49: Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law? Long answer: Yes. Next Q: how many (police alleged) shootings would have to occur? /you see where I'm headed This is a good question. In Utah I would suggest only one. In LA I would suggest the same. Only one old white guy. SubBass49: LA Mayor just offered up a$1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc.

Any of that money come from the Police Union?

SubBass49: Fail in Human Form: Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law?

No need, the next time the LAPD mows down a minority there'll be riots.

Dorner has essentially lobbed the shiat in the direction of the fan...it may hit the fan based on it's own current trajectory, or the LAPD may end up helping it to get there faster.  Either way, some crazier stuff is gonna go down before this is all over...

Well said

Sin_City_Superhero: SubBass49:
LA Mayor just offered up a $1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc. Any of that money come from the Police Union? Most of it actually...after the mayor spoke, the LAPD chief confirmed that much. Said it came from police organizations all over the state... Good thing I'm not black and I don't drive a pick up truck. PsyLord: Good thing I'm not black and I don't drive a pick up truck. Hopefully you don't have a white Lexus with Nevada plates either...was there a BOLO for that the other evening? SubBass49: Sin_City_Superhero: SubBass49: LA Mayor just offered up a$1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc.

Any of that money come from the Police Union?

Most of it actually...after the mayor spoke, the LAPD chief confirmed that much.  Said it came from police organizations all over the state...

They'll never have to pay a dime. The money is only paid for information leading to Dorner's arrest, and they have no intention of arresting him.

SubBass49: PsyLord: Good thing I'm not black and I don't drive a pick up truck.

Hopefully you don't have a white Lexus with Nevada plates either...was there a BOLO for that the other evening?

Yep, white Lexux

Igor Jakovsky: snocone: Igor Jakovsky: StrangeQ: Igor Jakovsky: Remember the Rampart scandal in the late 90's?  The fallout from that supposedly helped clean up the LAPD.  Maybe they've gone back to their old ways.  Im not sure who to believe here,  Why do many farkers automatically believe this guys manifesto?  Regardless, if this guy is putting hits out on LAPD and/or their families then fark him.  There are other ways to go about whistle blowing and unlawful termination without getting all shooty.

Like what?  File a report?  A complaint?  Do you really think, with the rampant police corruption in this country, that such a thing would have any effect at all?  The police have shown that they are good at one thing and one thing only: protecting their own.  They don't give a damn about you or anyone else who isn't carrying a badge.  But go ahead, blow that whistle.  If you stick around long enough you might even get to see one of them carrying the paperwork off to the bathroom so they can wipe their ass with it before flushing it down the drain.

In what world do you think targeting cops and their families is an acceptable response to perceived corruption?  Again, I ask, how do you know everything that he claims is true?  In my original response when the Rampart scandal came to light, the perpetrators were farked and the CRASH program was shut down.  Like I said you can fight corruption without getting shooty.

Nice fanasy.
Never happen IRL.
citation? see: History

Where was anything in my post historically inaccurate?  I provided an example of what happened when corruption was found in the LAPD and uncovered, the perpetrators and their program were sacked,

This must be where I came in during that movie.
Some few underlings were thrown under the bus. Like they will this time!!!
Your Environment of Corruption? No worries, mate, alive and very well.

citation: see Catholic Church Environment of Pedarasts
there are others, what is your perversion?

Satanic_Hamster: You know what, I usually label anyone advocating violence against police officers on fark as trolls/idiots.  But at this point, I'm going to have to make two suggestions:
No one in LA leave their homes until this guy is caught.
And if you see a cop?  Shoot first.

Obama needs to deploy the army or national guard to protect the citizens of LA from the police.

Fighting fires with gasoline?

Always works well.

aerojockey: Look, I hate to be "that guy" who admits there might be teeniest possibility of a 1% justification for police brutality, but.

Based on the guy's looks and the fact that he's a surfer and that he drives a blue pick-up, I'm not so sure this guy wasn't stupid enough to get it into his head to play a little "joke" on the police after being stopped and questioned.  "So they're having manhunt.  Wouldn't it be funny if I made a beeline for the next police car I saw as if I was a suicide bomber?  Then I'd turn away at the last minute.  We'd all get a kick out of that."

This is probably not what happened.  I have no reason to believe that's what happened.  All I'm saying is, if that was what happened, it wouldn't surprise me.

... Regardless of your disclaimer, I now have a lower opinion of you as a person.

Sin_City_Superhero: SubBass49: Sin_City_Superhero: SubBass49:
LA Mayor just offered up a $1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc. Any of that money come from the Police Union? Most of it actually...after the mayor spoke, the LAPD chief confirmed that much. Said it came from police organizations all over the state... They'll never have to pay a dime. The money is only paid for information leading to Dorner's arrest, and they have no intention of arresting him. Clicks "smart" button/ To all those who think that this show of violence and terrorism on the part of the cops will change anything: you are idiots. It will change things alright; this type of random, psychotic violence on the part of the cops will be justified, legitimized, and will become standard procedure all over the country. Amos Quito: Sin_City_Superhero: SubBass49: Sin_City_Superhero: SubBass49: LA Mayor just offered up a$1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc.

Any of that money come from the Police Union?

Most of it actually...after the mayor spoke, the LAPD chief confirmed that much.  Said it came from police organizations all over the state...

They'll never have to pay a dime. The money is only paid for information leading to Dorner's arrest, and they have no intention of arresting him.

Clicks "smart" button/

Well...that was fun:   Can't find that article. Tastes like chicken.

make me some tea: I'm beginning to think that Chris Dorner has a valid point here...idiots. Women and white guys?? Are they farking nuts? Apparently so.

I hope those victims get a nice cash payout out of this, at a minimum.

From a different forum (not my words):

"Guy knows how LAPD works and reacts to situations. Plans on waging unconventional warfare. Wants to prove how they don't care about civilians.

Think maybe stirring them up enough to provoke them into doing... exactly what they are now while he sits and watches may be exactly the kind of war he planned?"

Lost Thought 00: SubBass49: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x500]

LA Mayor just offered up a $1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc. It will never be paid. Rewards are never actually paid out anymore. Their lawyers will find some wiggle room to get out of it the loophole here is there won't be an arrest. snocone: Igor Jakovsky: snocone: Igor Jakovsky: StrangeQ: Igor Jakovsky: Remember the Rampart scandal in the late 90's? The fallout from that supposedly helped clean up the LAPD. Maybe they've gone back to their old ways. Im not sure who to believe here, Why do many farkers automatically believe this guys manifesto? Regardless, if this guy is putting hits out on LAPD and/or their families then fark him. There are other ways to go about whistle blowing and unlawful termination without getting all shooty. Like what? File a report? A complaint? Do you really think, with the rampant police corruption in this country, that such a thing would have any effect at all? The police have shown that they are good at one thing and one thing only: protecting their own. They don't give a damn about you or anyone else who isn't carrying a badge. But go ahead, blow that whistle. If you stick around long enough you might even get to see one of them carrying the paperwork off to the bathroom so they can wipe their ass with it before flushing it down the drain. In what world do you think targeting cops and their families is an acceptable response to perceived corruption? Again, I ask, how do you know everything that he claims is true? In my original response when the Rampart scandal came to light, the perpetrators were farked and the CRASH program was shut down. Like I said you can fight corruption without getting shooty. Nice fanasy. Never happen IRL. citation? see: History Where was anything in my post historically inaccurate? I provided an example of what happened when corruption was found in the LAPD and uncovered, the perpetrators and their program were sacked, This must be where I came in during that movie. Some few underlings were thrown under the bus. Like they will this time!!! Your Environment of Corruption? No worries, mate, alive and very well. citation: see Catholic Church Environment of Pedarasts there are others, what is your perversion? Well, OK except the LAPD Chief got canned along with the "underlings" and their program, .and a Catholic Church reference? That is great. F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds." This is a bald faced lie. Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect. Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag. The LAPD wouldn't lie to cover their own asses. C'mon man! Smeggy Smurf: We'd all be much safer if we'd just turn in our guns. If we do that then Dorner wont have any guns either. Oh wait, he won't comply because he knows the pigs are trigger happy fascists happy to murder you for the hell of it. Nobody is asking law-biding citizens to hand over their guns. You're an idiot. randomjsa: ZzeusS: I don't like innocents being hurt, but this thing with corrupt police offers being hunted? Total enjoyment. It's just a shame that he isn't some far right winger instead of a left winger... Because then he would be MONSTER. Gonna agree with randomjsa, for once. If the man is guilty of what he is accused of, then he is a farking psycho and needs to be locked up or put down. He may have a point about the LAPD, and the LAPD may be proving his points succinctly, but f*ck that guy. Let's not at all glorify his actions. LAPD has offered a reward of... LavenderWolf: Smeggy Smurf: We'd all be much safer if we'd just turn in our guns. If we do that then Dorner wont have any guns either. Oh wait, he won't comply because he knows the pigs are trigger happy fascists happy to murder you for the hell of it. Nobody is asking law-biding citizens to hand over their guns. You're an idiot. Um, the California State Senate is brewing up a bill that does just that. LavenderWolf: Smeggy Smurf: We'd all be much safer if we'd just turn in our guns. If we do that then Dorner wont have any guns either. Oh wait, he won't comply because he knows the pigs are trigger happy fascists happy to murder you for the hell of it. Nobody is asking law-biding citizens to hand over their guns. You're an idiot. Definition of FACETIOUS1: joking or jesting often inappropriately : http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/waggish" sab="107">waggish <just being facetious> Word of the day on Sesame Street. Mistymtnhop: Krieghund: Despite subby's headline, this wasn't LAPD. It was the Torrance Police Department. And it's old news. I came here hoping there was a lead on a vehicle Dorner is using. I haven't heard anything about vehicles missing from the Big Bear area, which leads me to suspect he's still up there. My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention. With what you know regarding this case, what leads you to believe that this man would be unaware of the weather conditions in and around the San Berbard mountain area that he would drive all the way up there, torch his truck, apparently the same truck the police are still shooting at whenever they see it, and then trek off into the forest to freeze to death? Doesn't really fit what we know the facts to be, does it? And if he burned his truck on Friday why were cops shooting and ramming the same type of truck he had on Saturday? The article is about events that happened on Thursday. I don't know what you're talking about that happened on Saturday. I think he knew what to expect in the mountains. It's possible he went up there with the intention of killing himself at some remote location so that the people on his hit list would live in fear until his body was found. Or he thought he could survive. Perhaps he was right, perhaps he was wrong. But he's an ex-Navy reservist, not an ex-Green Beret. The burning the truck interests me. Did he do it to slow identifying it down? Perhaps, but it seems a little silly. You're much more likely to notice a truck if it's burned out. Or perhaps he burned the truck so he wouldn't chicken out and try to return to it. A cop buddy of mine told me about 20 years ago that the cops from the generation before him almost always went into the job for the power and authority. He even joked that they were identifiable by big, mountain-gorilla guts and mustaches. His generation generally went into the cop profession to help people (he was a journalist first, but a journalist sees the bad stuff and can't do anything about it like a cop can). But this is a suburb of Kansas City, and nothing like LA or Chicago where, he said, almost nobody wants to be a cop except for the power/authority freaks. We can attrition-out of the power freaks, given time, but can LA? And who thinks that the LAPD re-opening his grievance case will produce anything worthwhile? It should be the California Bureau of Investigation (or whatever they're BI is called) or the FBI if the Fed can be given jurisdiction. If the LAPD (and maybe surrounding PDs as well) are even a little bit as dysfunctional, corrupt, and dangerous as he claims, they can't be the ones to do the investigation. Don't get me wrong, his exposure of the Departments' possible screwedupness is good, but he's done it in about the worst possible way. No excusing his choice of methods to alert us. I don't know what Dorner's history or military training is, but he could go to ground for a week or two, pop up and kill a cop or two, then drop out again. He'd probably have to have help to do that, but it fits his Robin Hood role. If he decides to give himself up, which is only likely so he can have his literal day in court, he can only do it by contacting an attorney who will be by his side with cameras and journalists to make sure he doesn't 'suicide' and makes it to court. I hope he does that before he kills again. Popcorn Johnny: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker That's just flat out farking ridiculous. How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work? This is why the smart and funny buttons aren't sufficient. Fark needs a stupid button, too! MrHappyRotter: Popcorn Johnny: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker That's just flat out farking ridiculous. How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work? This is why the smart and funny buttons aren't sufficient. Fark needs a stupid button, too! THIS MrHappyRotter: Popcorn Johnny: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker That's just flat out farking ridiculous. How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work? This is why the smart and funny buttons aren't sufficient. Fark needs a stupid button, too! Fair enough, I expect the same treatment though. The example I posted in another thread was having a restraining order against a person with a hit lit who started taking out targets. If I light up the wrong person I expect the same consideration from prosecution as you're willing to give them. By the way...my "THIS" comment was meant about Fark needing a "stupid" button, completely unrelated to the entire conversation...which I had stopped reading... Frank N Stein: This is why only cops should have guns. The professionalism and the marksmanship is tagged throughout that vehicle. Only cops, with their intense training, are capable of the safe operation of firearms. Sarcasm received load and clear. Back in the day, 40 years ago, I worked for a company that provided revolvers (yep, revolvers) and marksmanship training with them to police departments. I have never been, and have never wanted to be, a LEO. Not many took the training seriously. Most took the 3 or 5 day course as a paid play day. Lots of horseplay,etc. My boss was a former, very experienced FBI agent that would put a stop to that crap fast. Give them the lecture about their lives depending on this training. Most would just roll their eyes and nap. Some took the training seriously and we spent our time working with those guys. The "pattern" exhibited on that truck is pretty representative of the level of skill my students exhibited then before class started. This is exaggerated now by the current issuance of large capacity automatics with horrible trigger pulls to metro PD's . And their apparent lack of training despite the lip service about "highly trained" by the brass. These officers were excited but not under fire. If the picture represents the officers' braced firing position behind the cruiser's door, (all taped off as a crime scene with spent casings marked on the ground just in front of the cruiser, so it likely is the case) at a range of about 6 yards, there should have been a ragged hole in the window containing every shot fired by the officers. If they were so overwrought, behind cover, wearing an armor vest, that this is the best that they can shoot while under stress then they have no business carrying a gun. I think the sad truth is that they don't train and don't give a rat's ass where their bullets go. Sad. "To protect and serve." used to mean something. The Southern Dandy: LavenderWolf: Smeggy Smurf: We'd all be much safer if we'd just turn in our guns. If we do that then Dorner wont have any guns either. Oh wait, he won't comply because he knows the pigs are trigger happy fascists happy to murder you for the hell of it. Nobody is asking law-biding citizens to hand over their guns. You're an idiot. Um, the California State Senate is brewing up a bill that does just that. Dammit, Fartbama. smells_like_meat: Frank N Stein: This is why only cops should have guns. The professionalism and the marksmanship is tagged throughout that vehicle. Only cops, with their intense training, are capable of the safe operation of firearms. Sarcasm received load and clear. Back in the day, 40 years ago, I worked for a company that provided revolvers (yep, revolvers) and marksmanship training with them to police departments. I have never been, and have never wanted to be, a LEO. Not many took the training seriously. Most took the 3 or 5 day course as a paid play day. Lots of horseplay,etc. My boss was a former, very experienced FBI agent that would put a stop to that crap fast. Give them the lecture about their lives depending on this training. Most would just roll their eyes and nap. Some took the training seriously and we spent our time working with those guys. The "pattern" exhibited on that truck is pretty representative of the level of skill my students exhibited then before class started. This is exaggerated now by the current issuance of large capacity automatics with horrible trigger pulls to metro PD's . And their apparent lack of training despite the lip service about "highly trained" by the brass. These officers were excited but not under fire. If the picture represents the officers' braced firing position behind the cruiser's door, (all taped off as a crime scene with spent casings marked on the ground just in front of the cruiser, so it likely is the case) at a range of about 6 yards, there should have been a ragged hole in the window containing every shot fired by the officers. If they were so overwrought, behind cover, wearing an armor vest, that this is the best that they can shoot while under stress then they have no business carrying a gun. I think the sad truth is that they don't train and don't give a rat's ass where their bullets go. Sad. "To protect and serve." used to mean something. Don't doubt your story, but someone else pointed out that the bullet distribution on the p/u was the result of 7 different LEOs firing... The Southern Dandy: F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds." This is a bald faced lie. Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect. Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag. The LAPD wouldn't lie to cover their own asses. C'mon man! Sees what you did there. nburghmatt: Lost Thought 00: SubBass49: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x500] LA Mayor just offered up a$1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc.

It will never be paid. Rewards are never actually paid out anymore. Their lawyers will find some wiggle room to get out of it

the loophole here is there won't be an arrest.

What if someone claiming to have information would only give it up provided they promised not to kill Dorner?

SubBass49: Don't doubt your story, but someone else pointed out that the bullet distribution on the p/u was the result of 7 different LEOs firing.

I'm not following the story that closely, but I thought it was a simple traffic stop by one cruiser gone wrong. If there were 7 officers firing its even worse. Where did the rest of the shots go? I also count about 30 holes. This is a busy city not Nam. Excessive, no self control. I'm not anti-cop and certainly no fan of the psycho that they are chasing, but if you're going to use deadly force in an urban setting, use some sense.

And I'm so pleased that you don't doubt my story. I feel all validated and such like.

Arn_Dee: nburghmatt: Lost Thought 00: SubBass49: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x500]

LA Mayor just offered up a $1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc. It will never be paid. Rewards are never actually paid out anymore. Their lawyers will find some wiggle room to get out of it the loophole here is there won't be an arrest. What if someone claiming to have information would only give it up provided they promised not to kill Dorner? knowing these clowns? they'd be charged with obstruction. The LAPD is doing its best to paint a HUGE target on the back its officers. / Maybe that's the point. Dead men tall no tales. Arn_Dee: nburghmatt: Lost Thought 00: SubBass49: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x500] LA Mayor just offered up a$1 million reward for info that leads to his arrest...said the money was offered up by businesses, unions, etc.

It will never be paid. Rewards are never actually paid out anymore. Their lawyers will find some wiggle room to get out of it

the loophole here is there won't be an arrest.

What if someone claiming to have information would only give it up provided they promised not to kill Dorner?

Then he'd be killed because the officer(s) were cleaning their gun(s).

Christopher Dorner contains "historic drone"

Vodka Zombie: I think we've reached the point where Dorner will become something of a folk hero in the eyes of a public that's constantly being terrorized by the LAPD.

Dorner looks more and more credible every day he goes undetected while the LAPD trips all over itself and uses excessive force on innocents.  Dorner went on this rampage because he believes he was fired in retribution for exposing excessive force within the LAPD.  And every day the LAPD is proving his point that the use of excessive force is rampant within the department.

Walker: Is it a car? Yes? He's not in it.

Sure about that?  His truck was found in Big Bear, burned and with a broken axle.  Nobody knows what he's driving now.

The Sybarite: Krieghund: Despite subby's headline, this wasn't LAPD. It was the Torrance Police Department.

And it's old news.

I came here hoping there was a lead on a vehicle Dorner is using. I haven't heard anything about vehicles missing from the Big Bear area, which leads me to suspect he's still up there.

My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention.

or, just maybe, he had another vehicle waiting there for him to use.

I'm thinking the same thing. First it was a boat to Mexico and then his truck in the mountains. With Military and Police training, I'm betting he's skilled at "misdirection" as well. From his training videos, he looks pretty tight.

So who gets the lead role when this is turned into a movie circa 2017? I vote Rampage Jackson.

SubBass49: I think the sad truth is that they don't train and don't give a rat's ass where their bullets go. Sad. "To protect and serve." used to mean something.

Don't doubt your story, but someone else pointed out that the bullet distribution on the p/u was the result of 7 different LEOs firing...

Yep.

7 different LEOs firing at a vehicle that was moving AWAY from them (they shot the rear) and that they ASSUMED MIGHT have been being DRIVEN by Dorner - yet NONE of the rounds struck the DRIVER but TWO struck the 71 year old woman in the (PASSENGER SIDE?) back seat.

SEVEN cops pump out +- 50 rounds and NONE of them hit the "target" (driver).

That's some fine marksmanship there, Lou.

Not to mention that the truck was the wrong make and model
Not to mention that the truck was the wrong color
Not to mention that the truck was moving AWAY from them and thus posed NO direct threat to their safety WHATSOEVER
Not to mention that the occupants of said truck did not match the description of the "suspect" - wrong sex, wrong age, wrong race...

This is NOT a simple farkup by one jumpy cop. It is a reflection on every cop in the LAPD - and a reeking dirty diaper around the neck of ever LEO in the nation.

The really cool part is that if ANYONE takes the blame / faces criminal charges for this insanity, it will be DORNER.

"It's good to be a cop!"

Amos Quito: 7 different LEOs firing at a vehicle

Was it really 7 LEO's. That's just sad. And dangerous.

Popcorn Johnny: That's just flat out farking ridiculous. How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work?

Does putting 80lb glossy paper in the finicky printer kill somebody?  Yes?  Then by all means, lock him up!

Along with the authority to carry a weapon at work is the responsibility to use it correctly.  If you shrug off misuse as "just a mistake" enough times, you've also eroded the authority those officers should have.  When the misuse is egregious, and possibly fatal, as in shooting at vehicles that somewhat resemble your target vehicle before you identify or even view the driver, you put every single person in the area at risk.  Light up your cop lights, pull the guy over.  If he's your bad guy he'll run, which is dangerous of course, but so is shooting at a vehicle driven by somebody you haven't even seen.  This is farked up on so many levels.

Plus, if you carry a gun and decide to use it, shouldn't you hit your target a couple of times?  How many rounds were fired in both incidents and only 2 hit an old lady's back, and that didn't kill her.  shiat, don't come policing around me!  Hell, all of the targets were in the cabs of pickups, one behind a deflated airbag!  How hard is that?  I can't wait for the public, on-air testimony of these dumb-ass 'peace officers' explaining why unloading their weapons was the right idea.

He's been dead for days.  This is just the LAPD taking care of people who've been causing... "issues" with them.

Waste not, want not.

Chinchillazilla: Wait, he was wrongly assaulted by cops, but the article says he's an LAX baggage handler. I can't root for anyone here.

I think you are getting a baggage handler confused with a TSA agent. For the most part, baggage handlers don't assault the baggage.

OnlyMeanWitchesAreUgly: Mrs. Beasley: Keystone Kops in San Diego arrest man at 24-Hour Fitness because he looked like Dorner. And more hilariousness from SDPD!

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Chris-Dorner-Horton-Plaza-Down to wn-San-Diego-Sighting-190399431.html

I have to at least give the SD Police credit for not shooting at someone who, at the very least, matches Dorner's general description. The people in this story and the two women delivering newspapers, looked nothing like Dorner, and the only thing they had in common with Dorner was that they were driving a pick-up truck.

A JAPANESE truck. What are the odds?

Aquapope: Does putting 80lb glossy paper in the finicky printer kill somebody?  Yes?  Then by all means, lock him up!

Since when does firing a gun automatically kill somebody?

Will he be safe if it makes it to Mexico and hooks up with some like mined people.... as in people that also are at war with the police?

This story is good news for my friends in the local film business.  There is a fleet of LAPD painted cars in a lot from the last movie they made here and you know the LAPD won't ever allow a Dorner movie to be filmed in California.

Bit'O'Gristle: Seriously, guys, and I'm talking to my brother and sister LEO's here, quit shooting at anything that moves. The odds of you actually pulling this guy over are slim, and before you pull your sidearm and start hosing a vehicle down, you might want to restrain yourself long enough to IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET, let alone determine he's armed and a threat. Comon guys, you know better. Relax a bit.

HE'S COMING RIGHT FOR YOU!

Hehe, just kidding, but I gotta ask; what are your law enforcement brethren in Illinois saying about this? Are y'all just shaking your heads and getting redfaced with embarrassment for these incompetent Los Angeles fark-wits? I've seen you be a voice of reason in other threads, what is the reputation of the LAPD in law enforcement?

SubBass49: MrHappyRotter: Popcorn Johnny: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

That's just flat out farking ridiculous.  How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work?

This is why the smart and funny buttons aren't sufficient.  Fark needs a stupid button, too!

THIS

I would so own that shiat.

jjorsett: Fortunately for innocent bystanders they attempt to kill, cops are mostly terrible shots.

My impression, under real world conditions, everyone is a terrible shot.  A misanthrope I know from Nevada had this to say about shooting.  He said he and his friends used to ride horses on his dads ranch. They'd shoot at the rabbits they'd flush out of the brush. Over all the years they only got one rabbit.

zvoidx: Christopher Dorner contains "historic drone"

Spiro Agnew contains grow a penis, and you don't have to leave any letters out.

zvoidx: Christopher Dorner contains "historic drone"

LOL!

Amos Quito: zvoidx: Christopher Dorner contains "historic drone"

LOL!

herrp.

"His pickup, police later explained, matched the description of the one belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner - the ex-cop who has evaded authorities after allegedly killing three and wounding two more. But the pickups were different makes and colors."

That's some mighty fine police work there Lou.

Popcorn Johnny: Aquapope: Does putting 80lb glossy paper in the finicky printer kill somebody? Yes? Then by all means, lock him up!

Since when does firing a gun automatically kill somebody?

So you're equating a screw up at work by clogging a crappy printer with a screw up at work that could leave several innocents dead?  Firing a gun doesn't automatically kill somebody, but the likelihood that it will is millions of times morelikely than farking up office supplies.  Cops who fire on unidentified people because they're in somewhat similar vehicles have no excuse, not even "but there's a guy who's targeting cops".  If that scares you, go work somewhere else.  Don't abrogate your constitutional duty because you're about to shiat your pants.  You're a farkING COP, it's your job to identify the right guy and deal with him appropriately.  You're supposed to be trained to do exactly that!  How did the first set of cops stop him and let him go, but the second decided to ram his car?  That's some quality communication between field units and the home office when all they have is radios, cell phones, and internet-connected in-dash computers.  I'll bet that the "split seconds available to them" was more like a few minutes as they responded to reports of a stopped pickup.  These cops are farkups (not just LAPD, apparently), and while the Dorner asshole is in no way justified in his actions, he's at least shown a light on the asshole farkups.

At least these cops were too inept to actually hit anybody fatally.  So we got that going for us.

I just read his manifesto. I wonder if a trip to Topeka is in the plan?

Amos Quito: SubBass49: Glancing Blow: I'm not saying this would be a good thing, but what if the Dormer Protection Legion started taking shots at police cars all over southern California, do we get marshal law?

Long answer: Yes.

Who would enforce this martial law?

ONE GUY has 20,000 LEO's all over SoCal wearing Depends under their Kevlar.

What would happen if there were TWO guys? 20? 200?

Or perhaps 80 million?  Yeah, let's see what a bit of good old fashioned American revolution looks like today.

weltallica: He's been dead for days.  This is just the LAPD taking care of people who've been causing... "issues" with them.

Waste not, want not.

Damn newspaper delivery ladies.  farking surfers.

The Southern Dandy: Nobody is asking law-biding citizens to hand over their guns. You're an idiot.

Um, the California State Senate is brewing up a bill that does just that.

*glances over at the 30-30 and the bolt action 7mm*

meh.

\Not my fault you bought the redneck equivalent of an emo super soaker.

Aquapope: Cops who fire on unidentified people because they're in somewhat similar vehicles have no excuse

I never said they did and mentioned in another thread that the officers involved in the shootings should never see the streets again.  That's a long farking way from serving 20 years in prison.

gibbon1: The Southern Dandy: Nobody is asking law-biding citizens to hand over their guns. You're an idiot.

Um, the California State Senate is brewing up a bill that does just that.

*glances over at the 30-30 and the bolt action 7mm*

meh.

\Not my fault you bought the redneck equivalent of an emo super soaker.

What it all comes down to.

Popcorn Johnny: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

That's just flat out farking ridiculous.  How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work?

LOL They don't give me a pistol or the obligation and oath to protect.

I work  in technical support, someone tells me to fark off everyone after that with a technical issue may be that same person so I tell them to fark off..... im gone no nothing or questions about it.

Bit'O'Gristle: Krieghund: Despite subby's headline, this wasn't LAPD. It was the Torrance Police Department.

And it's old news.

I came here hoping there was a lead on a vehicle Dorner is using. I haven't heard anything about vehicles missing from the Big Bear area, which leads me to suspect he's still up there.

My guess is he's either dead from hypothermia or a self inflicted bullet to the head, but they won't find the body till spring. And that may very well have been his intention.

/thats my call too. He's probably pulled into a forest trail somewhere with a bullet in his head. Pussies like this usually off themselves.  Would be a shame if the LAPD killed a few innocent folk trying to get the guy that was already dead.

GO GET 'EM, TIGER!

This is getting old, can we get onto the next false flag op.

DON.MAC: I just read his manifesto. I wonder if a trip to Topeka is in the plan?

If you're talking about Meninger's, they moved to Houston (more crazy in Texas, i suppose) after dumping their loons in Lawrence.  In any case, here's a Meninger joke:

A van gets a flat during a terribly rainy night just outside of Meninger's Sanitorium.  The driver removes the bad tire, and has the good one on just as he knocks over the hub cap and spills all the lug nuts into the darkness.  He's distraught... what will he do?  Then a voice from over the Meninger wall says: "Take one nut off of the other three wheels and put it on the fourth".
"Wow!"  the driver says.  "Are you sure you should be here?"
The response: "I'm crazy, not stupid."

I love that joke.

SubBass49: Don't doubt your story, but someone else pointed out that the bullet distribution on the p/u was the result of 7 different LEOs firing...

And 7 different LEOs missed instead of 2 is better.  More efficient at their inefficiency.

Popcorn Johnny: Aquapope: Cops who fire on unidentified people because they're in somewhat similar vehicles have no excuse

I never said they did and mentioned in another thread that the officers involved in the shootings should never see the streets again.  That's a long farking way from serving 20 years in prison.

No, it's not.  They fired their weapons on individuals that they had not identified as wanted suspects.  They just fired on a vehicle (and were so bad at it they missed, despite cops being expected and trained to hit what they shoot at and only shoot at what needs to be shot).  They were out-of-control, badge-wearing thugs who had no interest in justice.  They just wanted to kill and apparently didn't care who because they didn't bother to identify who they were shooting at.  If they had killed somebody, 20 years would be about right.  But since they didn't, 8 years should be okay... but tack on 4 more because they did it under the auspices of the Police for 12 and that's about right in this case.

Aquapope: Popcorn Johnny: Aquapope: Cops who fire on unidentified people because they're in somewhat similar vehicles have no excuse

I never said they did and mentioned in another thread that the officers involved in the shootings should never see the streets again.  That's a long farking way from serving 20 years in prison.

No, it's not.  They fired their weapons on individuals that they had not identified as wanted suspects.  They just fired on a vehicle (and were so bad at it they missed, despite cops being expected and trained to hit what they shoot at and only shoot at what needs to be shot).  They were out-of-control, badge-wearing thugs who had no interest in justice.  They just wanted to kill and apparently didn't care who because they didn't bother to identify who they were shooting at.  If they had killed somebody, 20 years would be about right.  But since they didn't, 8 years should be okay... but tack on 4 more because they did it under the auspices of the Police for 12 and that's about right in this case.

They'll get two weeks off...paid vacation.  The standard reward for farking up.

The Southern Dandy: They'll get two weeks off...paid vacation. The standard reward for farking up.

Well, yeah.  Can you imagine if that happened to you?  Mr. Dandy, it seems you blew up the microwave in the break room, made up December's sales numbers in our P&L and took pictures up Sophia's skirt that one day she was dressed for wedding.  For punishment, I want you to stay at home and receive a regular paycheck.  And don't even think about calling in to help us!  Then you can come back, and good luck with Sophia while you're gone.

I really have no idea who to root for.

TheEdibleSnuggie: Blood flows in the streets of LA due to gang violence NIGHTLY:
Typical police response: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Blood flows in the streets of LA because an ex-cop starts targeting people behind the 'Thin Blue Line':
Police response: WHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRR!!!!!! THIS SHALL NOT STAND! UNACCEPTABLE!!! WHAAAAARRRR!!!! JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED!!!

And then all the cops get trigger happy; paranoid. Which in turn makes the citizens trigger happy...and paranoid.

To be fair, it gets "personal" when it's your "gang".

Coolin' in my crib, cold video dubbin'
FBI wanted? Huh, don't mean nuttin'
They call that shiat a crime? Yo, that shiat's a joke
Hit record on my dope remote
I heard my phone ringin'; I wonder who could it be
It was A fellow officer of the LAPD. He said,
"We got static, word, they just put out.
Dorner went rogue, anyone might get took out."
Bullets everywhere..."
Okay what's the prob?
"Homey got popped, he's dead as a doorknob."
You bullschittin' "I ain't farkin' around The station's rollin' tonight, officer are you down?"
I grabbed my AR, my 16, and my baby Mac,
strapped on my vest, and threw the 9 in the small of my back.
I said, "Chill, don't let nobody move without me.
Say you know where he is?" He said, "I know where he's been."
Let's peel his cap back...
Let's peel his cap back...
Twelve o'clock midnight, posse was airtight.
Twenty-five cruisers, with red & blue lights.
Some people talked, while others cried.
Dorner was a brother we knew should have died.
Then the silence broke, "Cap, what's it gonna be?"
38 blue & whites stood and stared at me.
There were only two words that I had to say:
P A Y B A C K
The car's loaded with a silence that could rape the dead
Pistols clipped as the chamber's loaded full of lead
Everyone in the crew knew what I said
Would mean by morning, somebody else soon would be dead
Let's peel his cap back
The cars at the corner like a long black snake Nightprowlin' for a life to take
Ya see down on the 405, it's an eye for an eye
That's the answer to the question why.
In my throat, there's a lump,
then I swallow it, I ain't no chump
Face of death, then I cocked my pump
I'm a officer on the trigger,
madder than a pitbull,
Just layin' for a reason to pull on you,
any punk motherfarker that gets in my way
I'm insane, and my homeboy's death made me this way
But then we got it, his truck had been spotted-
Down at Big bear, on fire in a parking lot, it
seemed his footprints trailed away into the snow...
Trail went cold in more ways than one, you know?
Let's peel his cap back.
Let's peel his cap back.
Let's peel his cap back
Then, all of a sudden, a pickup truck caught my eye.
My rage exploded and I felt that bastard had to die.
I tasted blood as our bullets scattered down the street.
We stopped that pickup, and turned it onto plastered meat.
Two asian women injured in this homicidal binge,
'Cuz whenever one of "us"dies, nobody wins.
But this drama, you'll never hear a word'a,
'Cuz all the paper's gonna read is a "COP MURDER".
"COP MURDER"...

Lorelle: And they hurt like hell. Feels like getting punched in the chest.

Do they hurt less than what you would have hit if they didn't go off?  I mean, we see pictures of people with black eyes or bruises after a collision in which an airbag deployed, but presumably going through the windshield would have been worse.

This reward reminds me of an old joke. Man walks into a newspaper office to place an add. Lost dog. Black poodle. Name tag on collar is Precious. \$5000 reward. Clerk says, you must really love your wife to offer that large reward. Man says, I'm not too worried about anyone collecting it, Precious is buried 6 feet deep in the back yard.

Sad. So very sad.

MFing Pieces of Shiat.

If he's telling the truth I hope a whole lot of people fry.

Deep Contact: This is getting old, can we get onto the next false flag op.

Not until someone leaks the security tape of what happened in that parking garage to show us who was really in the back seat of the car with the chick and her fiance before they were killed.

Popcorn Johnny: Aquapope: Cops who fire on unidentified people because they're in somewhat similar vehicles have no excuse

I never said they did and mentioned in another thread that the officers involved in the shootings should never see the streets again.  That's a long farking way from serving 20 years in prison.

They should serve the same amount of time as anybody else convicted of attempted first degree murder, because that's what they did.

DrPainMD: They should serve the same amount of time as anybody else convicted of attempted first degree murder, because that's what they did.

And a little bit more because they did it under the auspices of "official agents" of the state, city, county or whatever.

smells_like_meat: SubBass49: Don't doubt your story, but someone else pointed out that the bullet distribution on the p/u was the result of 7 different LEOs firing.

I'm not following the story that closely, but I thought it was a simple traffic stop by one cruiser gone wrong. If there were 7 officers firing its even worse. Where did the rest of the shots go? I also count about 30 holes. This is a busy city not Nam. Excessive, no self control. I'm not anti-cop and certainly no fan of the psycho that they are chasing, but if you're going to use deadly force in an urban setting, use some sense.

And I'm so pleased that you don't doubt my story. I feel all validated and such like.

you condem him yet do not take the same stance with cops firing at random people completely unrelated to this fellow? It is attempted murder

Buy a light blue pick-up.
You too may win the LAPD lottery.

F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds."

This is a bald faced lie.  Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect.  Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag.

The Naked Gun movies are starting to look like a documentary on the LAPD, rather than a slapstick comedy.

LAPD.

TO PROTECT AND KILL YOUR ASS

spentshells: smells_like_meat: SubBass49: Don't doubt your story, but someone else pointed out that the bullet distribution on the p/u was the result of 7 different LEOs firing.

I'm not following the story that closely, but I thought it was a simple traffic stop by one cruiser gone wrong. If there were 7 officers firing its even worse. Where did the rest of the shots go? I also count about 30 holes. This is a busy city not Nam. Excessive, no self control. I'm not anti-cop and certainly no fan of the psycho that they are chasing, but if you're going to use deadly force in an urban setting, use some sense.

And I'm so pleased that you don't doubt my story. I feel all validated and such like.

you condem him yet do not take the same stance with cops firing at random people completely unrelated to this fellow? It is attempted murder

What the hell are you talking about? Do you not know how to read?

Igor Jakovsky: Regardless, if this guy is putting hits out on LAPD and/or their families then fark him.  There are other ways to go about whistle blowing and unlawful termination without getting all shooty.

I voted for Obama in 2008 and since then he's done his level best to incarcerate every whistleblower.  I know the LAPD isn't a federal agency, but if I was a government employee and had something worth leaking, a program that I thought needed to be stopped for God and Country etc etc, I might very well choose to murder the responsible bureaucrats and take my prison sentence because leaking documents seems like it leads to the same place.

fark the Police.

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Deep Contact: This is getting old, can we get onto the next false flag op.

Not until someone leaks the security tape of what happened in that parking garage to show us who was really in the back seat of the car with the chick and her fiance before they were killed.

They won't release anything unless it fits their story.

Deep Contact: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Deep Contact: This is getting old, can we get onto the next false flag op.

Not until someone leaks the security tape of what happened in that parking garage to show us who was really in the back seat of the car with the chick and her fiance before they were killed.

They won't release anything unless it fits their story.

I had a response but it crashed.  They need to release surveillance from the parking garage February 3, not surveillance from god knows where January 28.

/ps. to those of you asking about proof she's a cop too, you're right, i haven't been able to find it. so I apologize for mentioning it.
//you're also right, the fiance was not a cop. he was a sheriff's department trained armed security officer, which is not the same thing.

I'd bet a million dollars the only 'folks' who heard shots fired before they assailed this guy were the police.  It's not safe to go out anymore.

OK stupid question, what is this LEO you guys keep referencing?

PacificaFitz: OK stupid question, what is this LEO you guys keep referencing?

Methinks it means Law Enforcement Officer.

/ Or could be Leo Laporte.

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