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(LA Times)   LAPD's new tactic to bring cop-killer Christopher Dorner to justice: ram and shoot any vehicle that remotely matches his car   (latimes.com) divider line 316
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2013-02-10 03:20:08 PM  
"In the split seconds available to them," the statement continued, "action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle."

Yes, stop those dangerous actions of the driver. Like driving along not having done anything.

When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds

Yeah, that sounds like attempted murder to me. We can't see if the driver is dead yet, so unload on him.

And just as with the two women, if Dorner had been in that vehicle, he would have been finished off by those thugs.

BTW, where is Cruiser12 and his ilk? I have only seen him in the fondling pregnant women thread defending those cops.
 
2013-02-10 03:20:14 PM  
I in NO WAY support Dorner.  I think he's a bad bad man.  That being said, I'm starting to think that LA will en masse have to start supporting his cause just to protect themselves. WTF, LAPD???
 
2013-02-10 03:20:23 PM  

HempHead: F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds."

This is a bald faced lie.  Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect.  Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag.

I bet it deflated faster with the 3 bullet holes in the back.


What deflated faster, the air bag or his bowels?
 
2013-02-10 03:20:41 PM  
There is also a 0% chance that Dorner is still in or around LA. He likely isn't in CA anymore, either.
 
2013-02-10 03:21:05 PM  

Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?

/what worse things are Dorner's alleged crimes distracting the public eye from?


*ahem*
http://gizmodo.com/5983175/report-ex+cop-christopher-dorner-is-now-a -t arget-for-drones
 
2013-02-10 03:21:46 PM  
Don't worry, Charlie Sheen is on the case and will have it under control any time now.
 
2013-02-10 03:21:58 PM  

F-14Tomcat: "When the vehicles collided, Perdue's air bag went off, blocking the view of the driver, and one officer fired three rounds."

This is a bald faced lie.  Airbags can't deploy and remain inflated. That is only something you see in movies for dramatic or comedic effect.  Airbags inflate almost instantly and deflate almost as fast. They have holes the size of half-dollars in the back of the bag.


Oh yeah? Well, what if he had one of these:
snl.jt.org
 
2013-02-10 03:22:02 PM  
Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker
 
2013-02-10 03:22:18 PM  

penthesilea: Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?

/what worse things are Dorner's alleged crimes distracting the public eye from?

*ahem*
http://gizmodo.com/5983175/report-ex+cop-christopher-dorner-is-now-a -t arget-for-drones


The key word is "armed".
 
2013-02-10 03:23:21 PM  

smells_like_meat: Dorner is likely long gone. Past Mexico by now. Perhaps Cuba or some other unfriendly spot. The roadblocks in LA are harassment pure and simple. "We're doing this because we can".

The psychologist's statement that "The police are not used to being hunted." is relieving. So, they are used to being the hunters? Not even a pretense of "To protect and serve?


You also have to wonder what kind of message this sends to the street gangs in LA.  You off a couple cops at a stoplight and LAPD just shiats itself in terror and falls apart.  Suddenly fighting it out with LAPD might not seem so scary.
 
2013-02-10 03:23:42 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker


You think the police union would allow that? Better to send the officer on a paid vacation while the thinks about what he's done.
 
2013-02-10 03:24:03 PM  

The Sybarite: or, just maybe, he had another vehicle waiting there for him to use.


It's possible. I find it unlikely though, since the police know and have accounted for any vehicles he had legally. If he had an illegal vehicle, why was he driving the truck that everyone was looking for?

And don't forget the fiasco where he tried to steal the boat in San Diego. If he had an escape plan that involved heading through San Diego, it's unlikely he'd also have a vehicle 3-4 hours away in Big Bear.
 
2013-02-10 03:24:18 PM  

FormlessOne: Dorner's manifesto, as disturbing as it was, does make some sense. What in the hell is going on with the LAPD? "Hey, it's two chicks in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like two chicks! Shoot 'em!" "Hey, it's a skinny white guy in a pick-up truck - Dorner's dressed like a skinny surfer! Shoot 'em!"

Perhaps someone should be less worried about Dorner and more worried about what's going on in the LAPD. It's almost as if the LAPD wants to ensure Dorner never makes it to trial.


Of course he's never going to make it to trial.  He's a highly trained (police and military) killer with nothing to loose amd a stated goal of killing lots of people... and he's had a complete mental break.  He will be shot on sight, because he has to be.

Only way he could avoid that would be to walk into some place and surrender by lying on the ground.
 
2013-02-10 03:24:51 PM  

Frank N Stein: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

You think the police union would allow that? Better to send the officer on a paid vacation while the thinks about what he's done.


And sign over his pension to the victim.
 
2013-02-10 03:24:51 PM  
I'm still waiting for a logical explanation of how the police actions in CA are anything less than attempted murder.  I'm all for Dorner taking a bullet, but the police in these last two incidents weren't shooting at Dorner.  In fact, they didn't know WHO they were shooting at.  Their goal was to kill the people in the vehicles, regardless of actual identity.
 
2013-02-10 03:26:53 PM  
Reminds me of how the Iraqi "police" handled things.

They'll be coming for your guns next.

Then your "tax" money.

Then you.
 
2013-02-10 03:27:37 PM  

ha-ha-guy: smells_like_meat: Dorner is likely long gone. Past Mexico by now. Perhaps Cuba or some other unfriendly spot. The roadblocks in LA are harassment pure and simple. "We're doing this because we can".

The psychologist's statement that "The police are not used to being hunted." is relieving. So, they are used to being the hunters? Not even a pretense of "To protect and serve?

You also have to wonder what kind of message this sends to the street gangs in LA.  You off a couple cops at a stoplight and LAPD just shiats itself in terror and falls apart.  Suddenly fighting it out with LAPD might not seem so scary.


Nah, they're prepared for that.  That's a typical criminal who they'd probably find due to his lack of planning.  This is a man who went to war and is prepared.  This is not something they're ready for, they've had every police agency looking for him, they had the NG looking in Big Bear, they used drones with FLIR, ect.  Some of us tried to tell people that before in threads on another topic.  Here is a practical example.
 
2013-02-10 03:27:42 PM  
FTA:
... a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue.
His pickup, police later explained, matched the description of the one belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner - the ex-cop who has evaded authorities after allegedly killing three and wounding two more. But the pickups were different makes and colors. And Perdue looks nothing like Dorner: He's several inches shorter and about a hundred pounds lighter. And Perdue is white; Dorner is black.



If I lived anywhere in the LA area and had a pickup truck, I think I'd stay away from it until this is all over.
 
2013-02-10 03:27:53 PM  
I guess Dorner really doesn't need to do anything else to get his point across now except to lay low and let the LAPD punch themselves in the balls repeatedly while the whole country watches.
 
2013-02-10 03:27:55 PM  
Agreed: attempted murderers.
 
2013-02-10 03:28:03 PM  

Krieghund: The Sybarite: or, just maybe, he had another vehicle waiting there for him to use.

It's possible. I find it unlikely though, since the police know and have accounted for any vehicles he had legally. If he had an illegal vehicle, why was he driving the truck that everyone was looking for?

And don't forget the fiasco where he tried to steal the boat in San Diego. If he had an escape plan that involved heading through San Diego, it's unlikely he'd also have a vehicle 3-4 hours away in Big Bear.


The San Diego thing confuses me, I tend to think it's either not true or a decoy.  Even if it was his original plan he probably had back up plans with back up plans.  I think he's in LA area still laying low waiting till the LAPD lower their guard and then attacks again causing even more panic.  I may be giving him more credit than he deserves....
 
2013-02-10 03:28:22 PM  
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2013-02-10 03:28:56 PM  
Didn't the cop on the run burn his truck? The cops have zero idea what he may be driving now. How can these other cop on pickup truck shootings be happening?
 
2013-02-10 03:28:56 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Only way he could avoid that would be to walk into some place and surrender by lying on the ground.


They would probably come up with a valid reason for shooting him in the back.
 
2013-02-10 03:29:17 PM  
No good can come out of this. The FBI seriously needs to step in and take control of this mess before citizens get hurt from their vigilante cops.
 
2013-02-10 03:29:36 PM  
This is a great farking movie
 
2013-02-10 03:30:28 PM  
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2013-02-10 03:30:32 PM  

Hagenhatesyouall: Reminds me of how the Iraqi "police" handled things.

They'll be coming for your guns next.

Then your "tax" money.

Then you.


On the plus side, when they finally come for me, they will destroy all of those damned blue pickup trucks.
 
2013-02-10 03:30:47 PM  
This entire episode will inspire more LEO's to be upstanding and moral, and to speak out against the wrongs and injustices perpetuated by their fellow law men.
 
2013-02-10 03:31:07 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker


That's just flat out farking ridiculous.  How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work?
 
2013-02-10 03:31:16 PM  

Warthog: I would gladly trade places with Mr. Perdue.  For the small cost of a concussion and a soiled pair of boxers, he's going to get an all expense paid vacation from work, a new truck, a six or perhaps seven figure tax free retirement fund, and likely a get-out-of-jail-free card good in the city of Torrance for the rest of his life.


Wouldn't count on that. Payouts are often surprisingly small when the cops are involved. I was the victim of a case of mistaken-identity-by-police. For an injury that left me with a permanent disability, I was given 20k. Small compensation for having to give up my career dreams.

So, yeah. Hope this guy fares better.
 
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2013-02-10 03:32:16 PM  
Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?

If you can wait until 4:07 EST (about half an hour from now) there's a thread on that headed for the main page.
 
2013-02-10 03:33:07 PM  
Wait, so his burned out pick-up wasn't found in Big Bear then? I wonder what those photos were from then?
 
2013-02-10 03:33:56 PM  
penthesilea
Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?
/what worse things are Dorner's alleged crimes distracting the public eye from?
*ahem*
http://gizmodo.com/5983175/report-ex+cop-christopher-dorner-is-now-a -t arget-for-drones


Are there armed drones running in the United States, and are they going to use missiles to blow up, lets go with a white female, this time?  Or are they just looking or heat signatures and will end up killing a camper in the mountains?
 
2013-02-10 03:34:21 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Lost Thought 00: Also, it should be a minimum 20 year sentence for any officer who discharges their weapon without visual confirmation of an armed attacker

That's just flat out farking ridiculous.  How about we give you 20 years in prison when you make a mistake at work?


Firing a gun isn't a mistake. It's attempted murder
 
2013-02-10 03:34:31 PM  
Officer Dorner...the gift that keeps on giving greenlights & ad moolah on FARK.
 
2013-02-10 03:34:37 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Jesus how many times are they going to do this today?!


Enough times I, as a Californian, refuse to leave my house until I finish my "I am not Chris Dorner" t-shirts and bumper stickers to wear while in public (and to sell, apparently to women as well).

/lives in NorCal, not SoCal
//wouldn't matter in the end, though
///Dorner could be anywhere, so SHOOT THE F*CKING THING FULL OF HOLES!!!, just like Walker said upthread
 
2013-02-10 03:35:01 PM  

steadyb: Didn't the cop on the run burn his truck? The cops have zero idea what he may be driving now. How can these other cop on pickup truck shootings be happening?


this all happened before they found the burnt out truck
 
2013-02-10 03:35:36 PM  

Mistymtnhop: Wait, so his burned out pick-up wasn't found in Big Bear then? I wonder what those photos were from then?


It was his, dollars to doughnuts it was a diversion.  Found his ID and badge on a bus heading to an airport (land), found a hostage in a boat with a fouled propeller (sea), and found his burn out truck in the mountains (land).  He's forcing them to spread out their search.
 
2013-02-10 03:36:12 PM  
first (land) = (air)
 
2013-02-10 03:37:00 PM  
So Yakety Sax is now the official theme tune of the LAPD?

Got it.
 
2013-02-10 03:37:46 PM  

KrispyKritter: This entire episode will inspire more LEO's to be upstanding and moral, and to speak out against the wrongs and injustices perpetuated by their fellow law men.


OK, you earned a "funny" vote in this very non-funny situation.


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2013-02-10 03:38:29 PM  
That's what happens when you wear a white belt, son.
 
2013-02-10 03:38:44 PM  

Lost Thought 00: There is also a 0% chance that Dorner is still in or around LA. He likely isn't in CA anymore, either.


Hard to tell, and it really depends on how serious he is. If he's going full throttle on his little counter insurgency campaign, then it makes total sense for him to lay low for a few days while the various police departments run themselves ragged doing overtime and chasing down every small lead. They've got literally hundreds of officers just pulling guard duty for the LAPD brass. Their schedules are not designed for this.

As soon as everyone's frazzled and ready to ease off a bit, bang - hit a target that they weren't expecting. Kick the whole thing back into high gear. All the while, the public is increasingly convinced that the cops are a bunch of incompetent bullies.
 
2013-02-10 03:39:10 PM  
I don't think Farkers realize how dangerous Dorner is. Any black man who can disguise himself as two white women and a white man driving two separate vehicles is a menace to civilization as we know it. Disguising himself as President Obama on Air Force One would be a piece of cake.
 
2013-02-10 03:39:38 PM  

Fail in Human Form: Mistymtnhop: Wait, so his burned out pick-up wasn't found in Big Bear then? I wonder what those photos were from then?

It was his, dollars to doughnuts it was a diversion.  Found his ID and badge on a bus heading to an airport (land), found a hostage in a boat with a fouled propeller (sea), and found his burn out truck in the mountains (land).  He's forcing them to spread out their search.


The axle on his truck was broken suggesting leaving it there wasn't part of the plan.
 
2013-02-10 03:39:48 PM  
Cmdr. Andrew Smith said he and Beck met separately with the two women Saturday. The truck will be purchased using money from donors, Smith said.

Hey, I got a better idea.  How about you take the money out of the farking police chief's salary, then, once it is paid off, you fire him and everyone else involved in the incident and bar them from even working mall security for the rest of their lives?  These farking thugs think they live in another farking world where their actions have no consequences, and actions like this just reinforce that idea.
 
2013-02-10 03:39:58 PM  

penthesilea: Arn_Dee: How long until LAPD deploys armed hunter-killer drones to protect and serve while looking for Dorner?

/what worse things are Dorner's alleged crimes distracting the public eye from?

*ahem*
http://gizmodo.com/5983175/report-ex+cop-christopher-dorner-is-now-a -t arget-for-drones


Mein gott.
 
2013-02-10 03:40:20 PM  
He killed a cop, as far as they are concerned he gets no trial, they will keep shooting him until the clips are empty.
 
2013-02-10 03:40:32 PM  
I'm starting to think this was part of psycho-cop's plan.
 
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