BSABSVR: Mock26: To the couple who put up the sign that was four inches too tall: You agreed to abide by the rules of the HOA when you bought the place. If you do not like them then or think that they are stupid or anything like that, you have two options: 1) Move. 2) Seek to get the rules changed. If you are unwilling to do either of those options then grow the fark up and obey the damn rules you said you would obey.To be fair, they did come up with technically valid signs. But the fact that they pulled a dickish stunt and that the HOA is clearly full of crazy people was a recipe for derpsaster.
Flint Ironstag: BSABSVR: Mock26: To the couple who put up the sign that was four inches too tall: You agreed to abide by the rules of the HOA when you bought the place. If you do not like them then or think that they are stupid or anything like that, you have two options: 1) Move. 2) Seek to get the rules changed. If you are unwilling to do either of those options then grow the fark up and obey the damn rules you said you would obey.To be fair, they did come up with technically valid signs. But the fact that they pulled a dickish stunt and that the HOA is clearly full of crazy people was a recipe for derpsaster.If the HOA can be petty about a temporary sign 4 inches too big then the owners can be petty about following the rules and making their sign technically legal. Rules are rules. They modified their sign to make it conform. The HOA decided to take it further.
thenumber5: Cyno01: I am not a homeowner, i am fairly clueless on the subject, maybe someone can clue me in...Unless youre trying to sell your home or planning to soon, why the fark do property values matter? Wouldnt lower property values (as if they could be achieved by a sign being 4" too high) lower your taxes?If im house shopping and find some place i like, could i slip the neighbors on either side $50 to not mow their lawns for a week and repaint their mailboxes the wrong color and get $20k off the asking price?because there are still home owners out there stuck in the mindset that a Home is not a place to live but a investment account you can live in until its value increases to the point you can flip it for a big profit to start the whole process over again
jayphat: All I ever hear is people biatching about how they are "underwater" on their mortgage. Don't worry about it. Unless you plan on selling sometime soon.
PacManDreaming: As a former Vice President and President of an HOA, let me say that a lot of problems come from the HOA management company that pushes for fines and other crap so they can rake in more money. Fortunately, the people I served on the board with were just normal people who had no desire to lord over their domain. The management company, on the other hand, can kiss my ass. I am so glad to be living in a neighborhood without an HOA, now. I will never willingly live under an HOA again.
Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: machodonkeywrestler: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: namatad: To protect their property values? How's that working out for you?in Fairfax County, VA? Stunningly well. Property values there barely took a hit in 2008-9, and they're up since then. That county (and the other ones surrounding DC) never really felt the recession that much, b/c of countercyclical government spending.Which has Zero to do with the HOA.Look, you're not going to get me to argue that HOA's are the reason NOVA is doing well. People have jobs here. That's the main reason. But when deciding where to live, neighborhoods that have cars on cinder blocks, refrigerators in the front yard, and people raising chickens out front are not going to be places that I'd choose to buy. Reasonable restrictions, ie, a restrictive covenant, prevent stuff like that from happening and thus help property values.An HOA that bankrupts itself in enforcing a rule that outlaws signs that are 4 inches too wide... that's not doing much in terms of making me want to buy there. If I read that in the paper as I house-hunted, I'd probably skip that neighborhood as well. It's a balance thing, and properly understood and enforced I think they actually can enhance property values.
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