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(Washington Post)   Man compared to Saddam Hussein. Is he (A) a terrorist, (B) a brutal dictator or (C) a homeowner who violated an HOA rule about window pane dividers?   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 111
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2013-02-10 03:51:29 PM
I wish I had the funds to buy "The Square" (the area FTA the HOA is being forced to sell off to pay their legal bills)...

Cars on cinder blocks
Crabgrass everywhere
A few port-o-potties sprinkled around
And a huge building full of corn to attract crows, rats, and other fun animals

/why yes, I think HOAs are full of wanna-be Nazis, why do you ask?
 
2013-02-10 03:55:39 PM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: namatad: To protect their property values? How's that working out for you?

in Fairfax County, VA?  Stunningly well.  Property values there barely took a hit in 2008-9, and they're up since then.  That county (and the other ones surrounding DC) never really felt the recession that much, b/c of countercyclical government spending.


Bullshiat, I bought a house in 2008 for 140K less than the sellers had originally paid.  I sold it a year ago for 30K more than what I paid.
 
2013-02-10 03:55:46 PM

BSABSVR: Apparently nobody in this HOA has any sense of proportion whatsoever.


Yahtzee.
 
2013-02-10 04:02:05 PM
Poor HOA board members, how dare a home owner call there bluff and force them to pony up for the legal fees

//realy loved the Tid-bit on how this caused "Health Problems" for older members of the community because the board jack up the membership fees to cover there anti-Obama crusade
 
2013-02-10 04:02:25 PM
People in HOAs deserve each other.  fark HOAs
 
2013-02-10 04:10:12 PM
How did no one on the board decide that hundreds of thousands in legal fees were indicating this was getting out of hand?

Sometimes it pays to lose.
 
2013-02-10 04:10:42 PM

divx88: People in HOAs deserve each other.  fark HOAs


The problem is finding homes in non-HOA non-thug life neighborhoods.   They exist, but they rarely go up for sale.

/HOAs hurt property value
//Underbid on homes and let the sellers know their HOA was the reason.
///have a <20 yr old house in a non-HOA neighborhood.  I win.
 
2013-02-10 04:12:03 PM

Girion47: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: namatad: To protect their property values? How's that working out for you?

in Fairfax County, VA?  Stunningly well.  Property values there barely took a hit in 2008-9, and they're up since then.  That county (and the other ones surrounding DC) never really felt the recession that much, b/c of countercyclical government spending.

Bullshiat, I bought a house in 2008 for 140K less than the sellers had originally paid.  I sold it a year ago for 30K more than what I paid.


I hear you - was it a townhouse community?  Some of those places, and condos, and super-new single family home developments where lots of people bought spec houses... those places got nailed.  But there was more of that in Prince William (Bristow, esp) and Loudoun than Ffx.  My parents have lived in their house since about '86, bought at $165k, and I think it recently got assessed around $600k.  That's the type of value I'm talking about.  Other communities in the US got practically wiped out, and here they're still doing ok.  Did some people spend $700k + at the top of the market and get wiped out on a house that's worth $550k now?  Yeah - the family across the street had that happen to them.  But there was less of that in Ffx than lots of other places, IMO.
 
2013-02-10 04:12:39 PM

ThighsofGlory: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: namatad: To protect their property values? How's that working out for you?

in Fairfax County, VA?  Stunningly well.  Property values there barely took a hit in 2008-9, and they're up since then.  That county (and the other ones surrounding DC) never really felt the recession that much, b/c of countercyclical government spending.

Yes, but you still live in NoVa. Dupe.


My parents do.  I live in Rosslyn, which is DC without the insane governance issues.
 
2013-02-10 04:14:21 PM
Not this shiat/thread again.

That said, if we are going to repeat threads I will be repetitive too.
I would rather have my balls cut off, seperated into right and left and have one stapled to my forehead and one rammed down my throat than live in a neighborhood with an HOA.
Give a few folks who are not used to it a tiny bit of power and the become tyrants overnight.
 
2013-02-10 04:16:57 PM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Girion47: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: namatad: To protect their property values? How's that working out for you?

in Fairfax County, VA?  Stunningly well.  Property values there barely took a hit in 2008-9, and they're up since then.  That county (and the other ones surrounding DC) never really felt the recession that much, b/c of countercyclical government spending.

Bullshiat, I bought a house in 2008 for 140K less than the sellers had originally paid.  I sold it a year ago for 30K more than what I paid.

I hear you - was it a townhouse community?  Some of those places, and condos, and super-new single family home developments where lots of people bought spec houses... those places got nailed.  But there was more of that in Prince William (Bristow, esp) and Loudoun than Ffx.  My parents have lived in their house since about '86, bought at $165k, and I think it recently got assessed around $600k.  That's the type of value I'm talking about.  Other communities in the US got practically wiped out, and here they're still doing ok.  Did some people spend $700k + at the top of the market and get wiped out on a house that's worth $550k now?  Yeah - the family across the street had that happen to them.  But there was less of that in Ffx than lots of other places, IMO.


Townhouse in Burke Centre.   Bought it as a foreclosure.

I finally got fed up with dealing with all of the assholes in the DMV area and the absolutely stupid costs of living, sold my house, and took the same pay in a city that costs 50% of what the DMV does.
 
2013-02-10 04:24:17 PM
Fark HOAs... When we buy, it is going to be a top 3 criteria; Nice oart of town, not on a major thoroughfare, and NO HOA.

My wife worked with a guy that was Chairman of his HOA, and he lived for busting people on the smallest shiat. One example: A couple went out of town for a few days and asked someone else to stop by and check on the townhouse each night. They would stop by, turn on a few lights, and come back later and turn everything off.

One light, they left the porch light on(The horror!!), and there was a rule about leaving your porch light on during the day, because apparently it just makes property values plummet. Anyway, these good samaritan neighbors were members, too, so this dude was walking on sunshine for two farking straight days because he got to fine BOTH the neighbors AND the owners of the townhouse for this egregious violation of the CCRs. For a goddam porch light, not a '72 Camaro in the front yard on blocks or chickens in the street, but a porch farking light.

Farking dick.
 
2013-02-10 04:26:03 PM
Who are these people who constantly worry about property values? My house was just re-assessed for $7000 LESS, meaning my property taxes go down. I bought the house to live in and not fret over what its worth on a day to day basis.
 
2013-02-10 04:27:35 PM

Dinjiin: BunkyBrewman: Does the HOA management company set the rules, or does the HOA board?

In new neighborhoods, the management company typically comes in with a template set of rules that they enforce.  Once the majority of homes in the neighborhood are purchased and occupied, the management company will allow elections for a board.  The board then works to update the rules as needed, with the management company enforcing the rules.

So issues with an HOA can come either from the board or the management company.  I've lived in neighborhoods were the management companies were very lax, sometimes to the ire of the busybodies on the board.  Other times, you had a lax board with a management company eager to fine the crap out of everyone.

My current HOA is incredibly lax.  I have an older car with expired tabs in the driveway and they don't care.  A dude down the street still has Christmas lights on the front of their house and they don't care.  They'll send a nastygram if the weeds in your front yard get too high or if you put your car up on blocks in the driveway.  Mostly, they just focus on maintenance of the common green-spaces.


You're lucky then.

From the article:

It was four inches taller than the association's covenants allowed.  "Need I say more! This would lead to chaos," a neighbor fretted in an e-mail about the precedent that would be set if the sign wasn't removed. "Our property values would be put at risk."

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Sounds like the anal retentive douchebags that ran the HOA my parents lived in for awhile. They actually sent my parents a strongly worded letter for *gasp* letting my nieces draw on the sidewalks with coloured chalk (something not mentioned in any of the covenants btw) because it could "ruin their property values and was vandalism derka derrrr". One lady on the board, she had to be 70 something, would go for a walk at about 5 or 6 every morning with a ruler measuring the height of everyone's lawn. I wish I was kidding.
 
2013-02-10 04:28:44 PM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: namatad: To protect their property values? How's that working out for you?

in Fairfax County, VA?  Stunningly well.  Property values there barely took a hit in 2008-9, and they're up since then.  That county (and the other ones surrounding DC) never really felt the recession that much, b/c of countercyclical government spending.


Which has Zero to do with the HOA.
 
2013-02-10 04:31:25 PM
I am not a homeowner, i am fairly clueless on the subject, maybe someone can clue me in...

Unless youre trying to sell your home or planning to soon, why the fark do property values matter? Wouldnt lower property values (as if they could be achieved by a sign being 4" too high) lower your taxes?

If im house shopping  and find some place i like, could i slip the neighbors on either side $50 to not mow their lawns for a week and repaint their mailboxes the wrong color and get $20k off the asking price?
 
2013-02-10 04:34:06 PM

Cyno01: I am not a homeowner, i am fairly clueless on the subject, maybe someone can clue me in...

Unless youre trying to sell your home or planning to soon, why the fark do property values matter? Wouldnt lower property values (as if they could be achieved by a sign being 4" too high) lower your taxes?

If im house shopping  and find some place i like, could i slip the neighbors on either side $50 to not mow their lawns for a week and repaint their mailboxes the wrong color and get $20k off the asking price?


Property values do matter in that they determine the price comparisons that appraisers use.  If values drop too much you may get a class of people that you don't like living next to you.  Also a lot of Baby Boomers are completely obsessed with values since they look at it as their retirement fund.
 
2013-02-10 04:36:19 PM

Cyno01: I am not a homeowner, i am fairly clueless on the subject, maybe someone can clue me in...

Unless youre trying to sell your home or planning to soon, why the fark do property values matter? Wouldnt lower property values (as if they could be achieved by a sign being 4" too high) lower your taxes?

If im house shopping  and find some place i like, could i slip the neighbors on either side $50 to not mow their lawns for a week and repaint their mailboxes the wrong color and get $20k off the asking price?


because there are still home owners out there stuck in the mindset that a Home is not a place to live but a investment account you can live in until its value increases to the point you can flip it for a big profit to start the whole process over again
 
2013-02-10 04:39:42 PM

EvilEgg: So the HOA dickwads overstepped their authority, got slapped by a judge. Then met in secret to vote against a deck and roof for the couple they didn't like?

Now it is the homeowner's fault?


That's what I took away fro the article, too... Somehow it's these people's fault because the HOA is a shady P.O.S.

Welcome to America, land of the "free". These groups are nothing more than a bunch of people on a power trip, making up for kids that made fun of them in grade school... I guess if nothing else, HOAs are an example of why we need anti-bullying laws.
 
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2013-02-10 04:40:29 PM
How did no one on the board decide that hundreds of thousands in legal fees were indicating this was getting out of hand?

There may have been a "loser pays" agreement in the HOA covenants. In a normal lawsuit the plaintiff can give up at any time for little cost. When the loser has to pay the winner's lawyers, walking away after a long fight is not an option.
 
2013-02-10 04:41:59 PM
In one case, board member Don Hughes compared some residents' refusal to install window-pane dividers to the "cat and mouse game Saddam Hussein played with the USA," e-mails show. Ultimately, Hussein "paid the price," he said, concluding that the residents should comply.E-mails show that Hughes pushed the board to act. He wrote that he was prepared to make a motion to put a lien on the Farrans' house if they didn't comply.

Somehow, I imagine Mr. Hughes as a feeble little man with no real influence in the real world so he leaps at any opportunity to exercise it in this little HOA universe.

He called sending a letter a "teaching moment."

Looks like it was Mr. Hughes and the rest of the board who got taken to school.

I hope a developer buys that little square and builds some section-8 housing.  3/4 acre should be enough for 4 or maybe 6 apartment units.

/Given that HOAs believe that they can impose liens on members' houses for non-payment/non-compliance, I wonder if the Farrans can impose liens on the properties of every other HOA member (including Mr. Hughes) to recoup their legal costs since it looks like the HOA chose bankruptcy as a means to escape restitution.
 
2013-02-10 04:42:20 PM

Mikey1969: Fark HOAs... When we buy, it is going to be a top 3 criteria; Nice oart of town, not on a major thoroughfare, and NO HOA.

My wife worked with a guy that was Chairman of his HOA, and he lived for busting people on the smallest shiat. One example: A couple went out of town for a few days and asked someone else to stop by and check on the townhouse each night. They would stop by, turn on a few lights, and come back later and turn everything off.

One light, they left the porch light on(The horror!!), and there was a rule about leaving your porch light on during the day, because apparently it just makes property values plummet. Anyway, these good samaritan neighbors were members, too, so this dude was walking on sunshine for two farking straight days because he got to fine BOTH the neighbors AND the owners of the townhouse for this egregious violation of the CCRs. For a goddam porch light, not a '72 Camaro in the front yard on blocks or chickens in the street, but a porch farking light.

Farking dick.


Ouch....

That's like what happened to a young guy at the HOA my parents were in. I'm over at my parents visiting and the guy's getting a satellite dish installed. Less than an hour after the installer leaves the young guy comes out chuckling to himself. Apparently work called and they need him to drive an 18 wheeler across the country, pick some stuff up, take it to the other side of the country etc. "I don't even get to watch the damn fights tonight". 2 weeks later he comes home to a giant stack of letters in his mailbox. The HOA fined him every damn day because his satellite dish wasn't the same colour as the already installed ones (that dark grey). The fines ended up being more than his mortgage per month. There was nothing in the covenant about it so he ended up getting it dismissed but the next "secret meeting" the HOA board worked out "approved satellite dish colours".

*shakes head*
 
2013-02-10 04:50:54 PM

Cyno01: I am not a homeowner, i am fairly clueless on the subject, maybe someone can clue me in...

Unless youre trying to sell your home or planning to soon, why the fark do property values matter? Wouldnt lower property values (as if they could be achieved by a sign being 4" too high) lower your taxes?

If im house shopping  and find some place i like, could i slip the neighbors on either side $50 to not mow their lawns for a week and repaint their mailboxes the wrong color and get $20k off the asking price?


Well, to be fair, not everybody in a neighborhood has just purchased their house. Some have been in them the full 30 years of the mortgage, some are ready for a bigger house, some don't have kids in the house, and are needing something smaller. It's not like the everyone pays off their mortgage in the same cycle.

That said, most of the bullshiat these HOAs enforce won't impact home values at all, it's just a bunch of people who suffer from Napoleon Complexes lording it over (what they hope are) a bunch of sheep who can't live their own lives without constant guidance.

The worst part? There is no need for an HOA. If your neighbors are violating city code, you can still get them fined and the city can force them to come up t code, whether it's getting the junker cars out of the front yard or mowing the 3 ft tall weeds. If your grass is 3/4" high instead of 1/2", your neighbor's house value isn't going to suffer. God, I hate these pricks.
 
2013-02-10 04:50:54 PM

arcas: Somehow, I imagine Mr. Hughes as a feeble little man with no real influence in the real world so he leaps at any opportunity to exercise it in this little HOA universe.


I picture this guy as someone who was a very tyrannical boss.  Now he's retired and feels like he doesn't have the same power he did when he was working (kid's moved, wife doesn't care that he supervised 13 people and drove a Dodge Stratus), so he just runs roughshod over his neighborhood.
 
2013-02-10 05:04:22 PM
If my heart had any cockles, this story would be warming them right about now.  I love seeing HOAs self destruct over petty issues.
 
2013-02-10 05:06:35 PM

what_now: Every single person in this story sucks. The HOA that threatened to hang people for not having window dividers, the couple who bankrupted th HOA, the lawyers, the old lady who claimed to be having health issues because of the Obama sign.....everyone.


No onw forced the HOA to spend 300 large on lawyers.  The board decided to do that all by themselves because they're control freaks.
 
2013-02-10 05:25:10 PM
I'm cheering the homeowners on this one.

HOA tries to go after homeowners for a temporary sign that's just a few inches too big.
Homeowners cut sign in half to follow rules, HOA still goes after them with a super secret meeting just to fark them over.
Homeowners try to de-escalate legal fight even while being harassed at own home.
HOA continues legal bullshiat and even raises fees and changes rules, before court finally slaps down the HOA.
HOA goes bankrupt because of legal fees.

imokaywiththis.jpg
 
2013-02-10 05:37:26 PM

machodonkeywrestler: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: namatad: To protect their property values? How's that working out for you?

in Fairfax County, VA?  Stunningly well.  Property values there barely took a hit in 2008-9, and they're up since then.  That county (and the other ones surrounding DC) never really felt the recession that much, b/c of countercyclical government spending.

Which has Zero to do with the HOA.


Look, you're not going to get me to argue that HOA's are the reason NOVA is doing well.  People have jobs here.  That's the main reason.  But when deciding where to live, neighborhoods that have cars on cinder blocks, refrigerators in the front yard, and people raising chickens out front are not going to be places that I'd choose to buy.  Reasonable restrictions, ie, a restrictive covenant, prevent stuff like that from happening and thus help property values.

An HOA that bankrupts itself in enforcing a rule that outlaws signs that are 4 inches too wide... that's not doing much in terms of making me want to buy there.  If I read that in the paper as I house-hunted, I'd probably skip that neighborhood as well.  It's a balance thing, and properly understood and enforced I think they actually can enhance property values.
 
2013-02-10 05:38:07 PM
s3.postimage.org
 
2013-02-10 05:55:39 PM
I found this while wondering wtf a window pane divider was

Large picture windows allow you to look outside without hindering your view. However, some people find them plain and boring. Window panes can add interest to your windows, but replacing them completely is not always practical, especially if you rent a home or apartment. The perfect solution is faux window panes made with invisible double-sided tape. Your windows will appear to be paned, but the trim will peel up fairly easily when you are ready to move on

I thought my first world problems were dumb. My window is BORING. WTF am I going to do?
 
2013-02-10 05:59:43 PM

Mikey1969: The worst part? There is no need for an HOA. If your neighbors are violating city code, you can still get them fined and the city can force them to come up t code, whether it's getting the junker cars out of the front yard or mowing the 3 ft tall weeds. If your grass is 3/4" high instead of 1/2", your neighbor's house value isn't going to suffer. God, I hate these pricks.


This really seems like the best use of an HOA. The municipality does not need to patrol its suburbs looking for grass that's too tall. Next thing the sign nazis are going to show up at city council meetings. The cities here in NC are so powerless that the state actually has to approve legislation as minute as this, and restrict it to that city.
 
2013-02-10 06:04:13 PM

Ima4nic8or: Not this shiat/thread again.


Sorry, but we hadn't had one for a while. And I thought having an Obama sign be an issue was a bonus.
 
2013-02-10 06:10:45 PM

moothemagiccow: I found this while wondering wtf a window pane divider was

Large picture windows allow you to look outside without hindering your view. However, some people find them plain and boring. Window panes can add interest to your windows, but replacing them completely is not always practical, especially if you rent a home or apartment. The perfect solution is faux window panes made with invisible double-sided tape. Your windows will appear to be paned, but the trim will peel up fairly easily when you are ready to move on

I thought my first world problems were dumb. My window is BORING. WTF am I going to do?


I've seen HOAs that demanded all mail boxes be identical, all satellite dishes be the same colour, all doors be the same colour etc. What is it with trying to make every house identical? Here developers try hard to make houses different, different sizes, style, colour, some have garages, some have driveways, some have front gardens etc.
Why try to make every single house look the same as every other house?
 
2013-02-10 07:35:23 PM
arcas:   Somehow, I imagine Mr. Hughes as a feeble little man with no real influence in the real world so he leaps at any opportunity to exercise it in this little HOA universe.

He called sending a letter a "teaching moment."

Looks like it was Mr. Hughes and the rest of the board who got taken to school.


My work's been done - excellent.  Every time I hear the phrase "teaching moment" uttered I go out of my way to fark those self righteous idiots up
 
2013-02-10 07:40:59 PM

Flint Ironstag: Why try to make every single house look the same as every other house?


There's no keeping up with the Joneses wheneverybody is mandated to have the same shiat.

moothemagiccow: I found this while wondering wtf a window pane divider was

Large picture windows allow you to look outside without hindering your view. However, some people find them plain and boring. Window panes can add interest to your windows, but replacing them completely is not always practical, especially if you rent a home or apartment. The perfect solution is faux window panes made with invisible double-sided tape. Your windows will appear to be paned, but the trim will peel up fairly easily when you are ready to move on

I thought my first world problems were dumb. My window is BORING. WTF am I going to do?


If you let people have slightly less aesthetic windows, you may as well have swingers parties in the common area.  Same thing really
 
2013-02-10 07:49:36 PM

lippenhoffer: How did no one on the board decide that hundreds of thousands in legal fees were indicating this was getting out of hand?

Sometimes it pays to lose.


Losing required the board to pay the other guys legal fees too.
Things like losing confuses people like this.
Of course, this all started with an Obama sign in what was probably a McCain neighborhood.
 
2013-02-10 07:53:12 PM

what_now: Every single person in this story sucks. The HOA that threatened to hang people for not having window dividers, the couple who bankrupted th HOA, the lawyers, the old lady who claimed to be having health issues because of the Obama sign.....everyone.


true dat.
 
2013-02-10 08:15:31 PM

BSABSVR: If you let people have slightly less aesthetic windows, you may as well have swingers parties in the common area. Same thing really


I'm still trying to figure out how putting a cross on a window makes it look better. Should I throw some electrical tape over my monitor, tv screen and glasses?
 
2013-02-10 08:21:19 PM

moothemagiccow: I found this while wondering wtf a window pane divider was

Large picture windows allow you to look outside without hindering your view. However, some people find them plain and boring. Window panes can add interest to your windows, but replacing them completely is not always practical, especially if you rent a home or apartment. The perfect solution is faux window panes made with invisible double-sided tape. Your windows will appear to be paned, but the trim will peel up fairly easily when you are ready to move on

I thought my first world problems were dumb. My window is BORING. WTF am I going to do?


i.imgur.com

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-10 08:26:14 PM
arcas:

I hope a developer buys that little square and builds some section-8 housing.

i125.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-10 08:51:16 PM

BSABSVR: Flint Ironstag: Why try to make every single house look the same as every other house?

There's no keeping up with the Joneses wheneverybody is mandated to have the same shiat.

moothemagiccow: I found this while wondering wtf a window pane divider was

Large picture windows allow you to look outside without hindering your view. However, some people find them plain and boring. Window panes can add interest to your windows, but replacing them completely is not always practical, especially if you rent a home or apartment. The perfect solution is faux window panes made with invisible double-sided tape. Your windows will appear to be paned, but the trim will peel up fairly easily when you are ready to move on

I thought my first world problems were dumb. My window is BORING. WTF am I going to do?

If you let people have slightly less aesthetic windows, you may as well have swingers parties in the common area.  Same thing really


And how can I set into THAT neighborhood?!
 
2013-02-10 09:11:06 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: BSABSVR: Flint Ironstag: Why try to make every single house look the same as every other house?

There's no keeping up with the Joneses wheneverybody is mandated to have the same shiat.

moothemagiccow: I found this while wondering wtf a window pane divider was

Large picture windows allow you to look outside without hindering your view. However, some people find them plain and boring. Window panes can add interest to your windows, but replacing them completely is not always practical, especially if you rent a home or apartment. The perfect solution is faux window panes made with invisible double-sided tape. Your windows will appear to be paned, but the trim will peel up fairly easily when you are ready to move on

I thought my first world problems were dumb. My window is BORING. WTF am I going to do?

If you let people have slightly less aesthetic windows, you may as well have swingers parties in the common area.  Same thing really

And how can I set into THAT neighborhood?!


Ahhh, you like monopained windows do you?
 
2013-02-10 09:23:38 PM

BunkyBrewman: Does the HOA management company set the rules, or does the HOA board?


Where I was, the board had to vote on whether or not the management company could issue fines, file a lien against someone's home or file for foreclosure . Most of the time, they were very displeased with our rulings.

Can't believe they wanted us to foreclose on people's homes because they couldn't pay their HOA dues because they had lost their jobs(this was back a few years ago when the economy crapped on itself). And, during the three years I was on the board, this never happened.
 
2013-02-10 09:46:19 PM
To the couple who put up the sign that was four inches too tall:  You agreed to abide by the rules of the HOA when you bought the place. If you do not like them then or think that they are stupid or anything like that, you have two options:  1) Move.  2) Seek to get the rules changed.  If you are unwilling to do either of those options then grow the fark up and obey the damn rules you said you would obey.

To the person complaining about their property value going down because of what the sign might lead to:  Shut the fark up!  There is no guarantee, ever, that your property value has to go up.
 
2013-02-10 09:52:54 PM
Oh yeah, everything that happened after the sign was cut in half was just childish and asinine.
 
2013-02-10 09:53:17 PM

moothemagiccow: BSABSVR: If you let people have slightly less aesthetic windows, you may as well have swingers parties in the common area. Same thing really

I'm still trying to figure out how putting a cross on a window makes it look better. Should I throw some electrical tape over my monitor, tv screen and glasses?


I put one on all my glasswork to be safe.  I have the most fashionable rear view mirror in all the land.
 
2013-02-10 09:54:54 PM

Mock26: To the couple who put up the sign that was four inches too tall: You agreed to abide by the rules of the HOA when you bought the place. If you do not like them then or think that they are stupid or anything like that, you have two options: 1) Move. 2) Seek to get the rules changed. If you are unwilling to do either of those options then grow the fark up and obey the damn rules you said you would obey.


To be fair, they did come up with technically valid signs.  But the fact that they pulled a dickish stunt and that the HOA is clearly full of crazy people was a recipe for derpsaster.
 
2013-02-10 10:02:59 PM

Mock26: To the couple who put up the sign that was four inches too tall:  You agreed to abide by the rules of the HOA when you bought the place. If you do not like them then or think that they are stupid or anything like that, you have two options:  1) Move.  2) Seek to get the rules changed.  If you are unwilling to do either of those options then grow the fark up and obey the damn rules you said you would obey.



They did follow the rules after it was brought to their attention.  They split the sign in half, making it separate signs that each fell within the rules.
 
2013-02-10 10:13:14 PM

namatad: lippenhoffer: How did no one on the board decide that hundreds of thousands in legal fees were indicating this was getting out of hand?

Sometimes it pays to lose.

Losing required the board to pay the other guys legal fees too.
Things like losing confuses people like this.
Of course, this all started with an Obama sign in what was probably a McCain neighborhood.


So the HOA saw a small infraction of their rules and decided it was a matter of principle and order and they should spend way too much money and time in a useless legal battle over it whilst holding secret meetings to deny their antagonists the right to improve their own home as retribution?  Yeah, they're Republicans.  I'd bet good money on it.
 
2013-02-10 10:34:59 PM

Cyno01: I am not a homeowner, i am fairly clueless on the subject, maybe someone can clue me in...

Unless youre trying to sell your home or planning to soon, why the fark do property values matter? Wouldnt lower property values (as if they could be achieved by a sign being 4" too high) lower your taxes?

If im house shopping  and find some place i like, could i slip the neighbors on either side $50 to not mow their lawns for a week and repaint their mailboxes the wrong color and get $20k off the asking price?


Easy answer: Morons who took money out of their houses during the real estate madness of a few years ago are now afraid that the boat and the car and the flat panel tv and the trips and the jewelry and the gambling and all the other dumb sh*t they spent that money on won't be covered by the insanely inflated prices of their houses.

They will have to actually live within their means (i.e. paycheck) instead of within their imaginations.
 
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