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(YouTube) Video Today's SHMHC remembers Metallica's Cliff Burton, who would have turned 51 today but had his life cut short in 1986. Here's the classic Disposable Heroes (Some not safe for work language, duh)   (youtube.com) divider line 24
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2013-02-11 05:53:37 AM  
2 votes:

ybishop: Death Magnetic, to me, sounded like a desperate clutch at glory days past. Sorry dudes, that ship sailed. Hard to sound like the voice of disenfranchised youth when you're a 40-50 something millionaire.

SO very much this. How am I supposed to take Lars as a serious metal musician when he's sipping Christal and buying 8 million dollar art pieces?


I don't mind him using his cash as much as I mind replacing every kick pattern in the records with kick-snare-kick-snare-kick-snare...
2013-02-11 03:51:58 AM  
2 votes:

IlGreven: poot_rootbeer: Rob Trujillo has been a member of Metallica for more than twice as long as Cliff ever was.

And Jason Newsted was better than both of 'em. Your point?

/Why, yes, I do prefer Sammy Hagar, why do you ask?


I honestly don't know if Newsted was technically better than Burton or not, but there's no way he could have made something as awesome as Orion. Cliff wasn't just the cool guy bass player, I believe he had the most musical training of anyone in the band and could write an awesome piece of music.
2013-02-10 02:09:54 PM  
2 votes:
It would have been funny to see if Cliff would get a haircut and put on hip clothes.

And yes, he would have. Too much money on the table.
kab
2013-02-10 01:52:53 PM  
2 votes:

SPna15: Master of Puppets was a boring slog


There are times when opinions are actually completely incorrect.  This is one of them.
2013-02-11 02:01:11 AM  
1 votes:
El Brujo:
/for a professional metal drummer, Lars is maybe the least skilled on the planet.

So much this.

But what really strikes me is how watered down his live performances are compared to his studio performances. What a lack of regard for your own art.

And fark the endurance excuse. Old man Peart is pushing 60 and still replicating his studio performances hit for hit, and usually faster than in the studio, in almost 3 hour shows. Ditto every other metal drummer I've seen live, young and old. It's a kind of "not giving a shiat" attitude towards the whole live performance thing vibe that's very annoying.
2013-02-10 11:00:57 PM  
1 votes:

CZMisfitsFan: I always find it funny that people give so much shiat to Metallica after their "sell out" phase, but Megadeth gets a free pass for pandering to the fans and regurgitating the same "thrashy" album over and over since 2004 despite releasing two albums that were poppier than anything Metallica ever did.


I've never heard anyone give Megadeth a "free pass". They catch just as much shiat for their substandard/sellout albums.
2013-02-10 08:46:28 PM  
1 votes:
This concert happened two months before I was born.

I loved Metallica when I was in high school.

Just dropping by to make a bunch of you Farkers feel old.
2013-02-10 08:30:05 PM  
1 votes:
Cliff and I were neighbors as kids. He was probably just leaving elementary school/entering junior high; I finished junior high and entered high school. He was just a sweetie, even as a kid. Most of the guys in the neighborhood were teen jerks in an 'I coulda totally kicked his a** / I coulda totally had her" kind of way (including his big brother, Scott), but I remember Cliff as a genuine and thoughtful kid. We'd sit on the curb together contemplating the meaning of life.

Last time I saw him was 1981, I think - I'd been living in Sacramento and was moving back to town. Rented a U-haul and he turned out to be working there. Didn't recognize him after all those years; he had his trademark orange mane and he just said "Hi", and when I looked puzzled, he said, "Cliff Burton!" Sad end to a good guy, but I'm glad he enjoyed success with the band.
2013-02-10 06:20:54 PM  
1 votes:

Klom Dark: El Brujo: This week I've been listening to Taake - Hordalands Doedskvad part VII black metal

Janvs - Fvlgvres black metal

Xanthrochroid - In Putris Stagnum symphonic black metal (new/debut album)

I tried. But you've got to be kidding...

Vomit Rock sucks, learn to sing/scream. I hate it when the singer sounds like a cat trying to upchuck a hairball. Many many otherwise great bands have been reduced to the unlistenable category by a vomiter instead of a screamer or singer.


don't care
2013-02-10 06:15:29 PM  
1 votes:

Loneman1: mooseyfate: poot_rootbeer: Rob Trujillo has been a member of Metallica for more than twice as long as Cliff ever was.

Yeah, during the worst years.  Also, he's only been with the band for ONE studio release which is best described as forgettable, as opposed to the three groundbreaking, Metallica-shaping albums that Cliff was a huge part of.  Nice try, though.  I'm sure if no one in this thread knew fark-all about Metallica, that might have been a good post for you.

While I am probably one of the bigger Metallica supporters a person could probably ever meet and I may be a bit biased, but to call "Death Magnetic" really forgettable, I can't agree with you on that.  It had quite a few really solid songs on there, definitely a throwback to their earlier stuff.  It might not be quite in the same league as Puppets, but it is one of their more solid albums IMO.



I think Death Magnetic is one of their weakest albums. It's the only one of their albums that feels to me like they were doing it for someone other than themselves. every riff seemed like they were writing it because it's what they thought other people wanted to hear. the lyrics had no heart backing them up, it's like James wrote the most generic shiat he could think up. you may not like St. Anger ('you' in the whoever is reading this sense), but you can't really say that what James was singing about wasn't from his heart. While Death Magnetic has some 'cool' riffs, the whole thing feels uninspired.
2013-02-10 06:11:52 PM  
1 votes:

El Brujo: This week I've been listening to Taake - Hordalands Doedskvad part VII black metal

Janvs - Fvlgvres black metal

Xanthrochroid - In Putris Stagnum symphonic black metal (new/debut album)


I tried. But you've got to be kidding...

Vomit Rock sucks, learn to sing/scream. I hate it when the singer sounds like a cat trying to upchuck a hairball. Many many otherwise great bands have been reduced to the unlistenable category by a vomiter instead of a screamer or singer.
kab
2013-02-10 05:39:08 PM  
1 votes:

HST's Dead Carcass: Songs were far longer than they needed to be


The pop music thread is that way  --->
2013-02-10 04:49:13 PM  
1 votes:
Metallica and "Master of Puppets" was literally life-changing for me. I remember the first time I listened to this album like it was yesterday - it was 27 YEARS ago...damn.

/get off my lawn
//Master! Master!
2013-02-10 04:40:17 PM  
1 votes:

DontBeSoDigital: A band like Nickelback wouldn't even dare to make an album like Lulu, nor would Lou Reed even give them the time or day.


Yeah, but Metallica shouldn't have dared. The few sample tracks I heard from that were horrible.
2013-02-10 04:07:09 PM  
1 votes:
Metallica introduced a 9 year old me to heavy metal with Justice.  I thought it was awesome and for that I'm grateful.  After having been listening to metal for a long time, I can't remember the last time I've put on any Metallica.  I don't know that they would even make my top 50 bands list...doubtful.

/for a professional metal drummer, Lars is maybe the least skilled on the planet.
2013-02-10 02:30:05 PM  
1 votes:

Great_Milenko: mooseyfate: SPna15: Great_Milenko: Finally, a SHMHC that no one can complain about.

Ride the Lightning was their last good album. Master of Puppets was a boring slog and they just got worse from there. Though this version is far better than the album's.

Thrash
New Trad
Doom

Oh christ, you're one of those Farkers.  I'll be standing way over there.  Away from you and your terrible "musical superiority".

The New Trad link isn't too bad.  Not even close to being as good as Master of Puppets though.


At least I'm trying to make this thread better than just circlejerking about how Metallica has sucked for the past two and a half decades.
2013-02-10 02:21:28 PM  
1 votes:

mooseyfate: SPna15: Great_Milenko: Finally, a SHMHC that no one can complain about.

Ride the Lightning was their last good album. Master of Puppets was a boring slog and they just got worse from there. Though this version is far better than the album's.

Thrash
New Trad
Doom

Oh christ, you're one of those Farkers.  I'll be standing way over there.  Away from you and your terrible "musical superiority".


The New Trad link isn't too bad.  Not even close to being as good as Master of Puppets though.
2013-02-10 01:52:16 PM  
1 votes:

SPna15: Great_Milenko: Finally, a SHMHC that no one can complain about.

Ride the Lightning was their last good album. Master of Puppets was a boring slog and they just got worse from there. Though this version is far better than the album's.

Thrash
New Trad
Doom


The first 2 bands you listed were pretty decent, although I could have done without half a video of the band members asses in the bolded one.

The third band you listed seemed to be as much a boring slog as you called MoP. 18-19 minute songs of that stuff? Sheesh.
2013-02-10 01:41:43 PM  
1 votes:

SPna15: Great_Milenko: Finally, a SHMHC that no one can complain about.

Ride the Lightning was their last good album. Master of Puppets was a boring slog and they just got worse from there. Though this version is far better than the album's.

Thrash
New Trad
Doom


Oh christ, you're one of those Farkers.  I'll be standing way over there.  Away from you and your terrible "musical superiority".
2013-02-10 01:02:31 PM  
1 votes:

poot_rootbeer: Rob Trujillo has been a member of Metallica for more than twice as long as Cliff ever was.


Yet Cliff had contributed to the band almost twice as much as Rob has. Cliff actually had some real musical training and did a lot of songwriting.
2013-02-10 12:58:11 PM  
1 votes:

rickycal78: Ahhh, back when Metallica was still putting out metal. Good times. I still think the band started it's slow decline with Cliff's death. Sure Justice was still a metal album, but that was it. Pretty much everything that followed was more hard rock than metal. Nothing wrong with that mind you since I still like a fair amount of their stuff after Justice, but it just wasn't metal anymore.


I was with them all the way up until St. Anger.  That CD was....unforgivable.  At least before that CD you had the excuse of saying they sounded more polished, more like professional musicians.  St. Anger was just a confused, shiatty mess.
2013-02-10 12:31:24 PM  
1 votes:
Ahhh, back when Metallica was still putting out metal. Good times. I still think the band started it's slow decline with Cliff's death. Sure Justice was still a metal album, but that was it. Pretty much everything that followed was more hard rock than metal. Nothing wrong with that mind you since I still like a fair amount of their stuff after Justice, but it just wasn't metal anymore.
2013-02-10 12:21:58 PM  
1 votes:
I saw him at the Philly Spectrum (w/Ozzy) on the Master of Puppets/Ultimate Sin tour. He was in great form, but Jake E Lee (from Ozzy's band) had a horrible night. I remember Cliff's solo like it was yesterday.

/Miss you (and what used to be Metallica), Cliff.
2013-02-10 11:59:22 AM  
1 votes:
I got to see them open for Ozzy in Chattanooga just 2 months before his death.
It was a great show from Battery to Paranoid.
 
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