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(NPR)   Fifty years later, does Betty Friedan's "Feminine Mystique" still resonate, or has it become too broad?   (npr.org) divider line 158
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2013-02-10 10:45:34 AM
First wave feminism.

Wrecking relationships since 1963.
 
2013-02-10 11:03:30 AM
Please use the following to assemble thread-appropriate joke:

beer; dame; sammich; cook; clean; bed; shopping; "on the rag"
 
2013-02-10 11:30:14 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Please use the following to assemble thread-appropriate joke:

beer; dame; sammich; cook; clean; bed; shopping; "on the rag"


Don't skirt the issue, tell us what you really think
 
2013-02-10 11:40:11 AM

Dead for Tax Reasons: Lionel Mandrake: Please use the following to assemble thread-appropriate joke:

beer; dame; sammich; cook; clean; bed; shopping; "on the rag"

Don't skirt the issue, tell us what you really think


I like to dish it out.  In broad strokes.

Dames.
 
2013-02-10 11:43:21 AM

Lionel Mandrake: Please use the following to assemble thread-appropriate joke:

beer; dame; sammich; cook; clean; bed; shopping; "on the rag"



Bonus points for anyone who also uses the term "stewardess".
 
2013-02-10 11:48:06 AM
Feminism is one of those things which was so successful in completely transforming the way society views itself and its goal was so broadly achieved and became so 'normal' (mostly), that the idea of having a movement for it become a weird thing and therefore garnered a lot of hate.
 
2013-02-10 12:17:36 PM
So "Feminine Mystique" is another word for a woman's butt?

/After 50 years you should expect a little spreading out....
//off to read TFA .... oh .... never mind
 
2013-02-10 12:19:23 PM
Ought to be required reading...
 
2013-02-10 01:02:16 PM
Yes, because Fark is the place I come to to discuss the relevance of earlier waves of feminism.
 
2013-02-10 01:04:34 PM
Broads don't like being called tomatoes.
 
2013-02-10 01:07:35 PM

toddalmighty: Broads don't like being called tomatoes.


Yea, chicks hate that
 
2013-02-10 01:08:13 PM
Well, let's be honest.  A masculine Mystique wouldn't look quite as alluring painted blue and kicking Hugh Jackman's ass.
 
2013-02-10 01:09:29 PM

DamnYankees: Feminism is one of those things which was so successful in completely transforming the way society views itself and its goal was so broadly achieved and became so 'normal' (mostly), that the idea of having a movement for it become a weird thing and therefore garnered a lot of hate.


Were you not paying attention during the last Presidential election? There seem to be a lot of pretty paleo politicians around who still want to dicktate to women.
 
2013-02-10 01:10:49 PM

Hack Patooey: toddalmighty: Broads don't like being called tomatoes.

Yea, chicks hate that


Gashes don't like to be called chicks.
 
2013-02-10 01:15:40 PM
There is a video clip out there (too lazy to look for it) of Leonard Nimoy being interviewed and calling a woman co star a tomato.
 
2013-02-10 01:18:23 PM
Dames don't like being called "broads".
 
2013-02-10 01:18:46 PM
Zing!
 
2013-02-10 01:18:59 PM

The_Sponge: Lionel Mandrake: Please use the following to assemble thread-appropriate joke:

beer; dame; sammich; cook; clean; bed; shopping; "on the rag"


Bonus points for anyone who also uses the term "stewardess".


I call 'em "air waitresses".
 
2013-02-10 01:19:48 PM

dersk: DamnYankees: Feminism is one of those things which was so successful in completely transforming the way society views itself and its goal was so broadly achieved and became so 'normal' (mostly), that the idea of having a movement for it become a weird thing and therefore garnered a lot of hate.

Were you not paying attention during the last Presidential election? There seem to be a lot of pretty paleo politicians around who still want to dicktate to women.


And a lot of them want to dick men, preferably anonymously.
 
2013-02-10 01:19:54 PM
Tomatoes are disgusting so I don't blame women for not wanting to be called tomatoes.
 
2013-02-10 01:19:58 PM
i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-10 01:20:47 PM

DS1970: Dames don't like being called "broads".


Wenches don't like being called "dames".
 
2013-02-10 01:21:12 PM

wiseolddude: There is a video clip out there (too lazy to look for it) of Leonard Nimoy being interviewed and calling a woman co star a tomato.


This one?  Leonard Nimoy interview.
 
2013-02-10 01:21:58 PM
That chick is adorable.
 
2013-02-10 01:22:46 PM
If you ladies would like to be treated as equals, you must be willing to give up the privileged status you enjoy in so many aspects of life.
 
2013-02-10 01:23:10 PM

Generation_D: First wave feminism.

Wrecking relationships since 1963.


Feminism not only diminishes women's choices but denigrates the very gender it is supposed to protect.

The roll of "full-time mom" is both a "career choice" that is more unavailable to women and is a career-choice that is denigrated by the "feminist" movement.

Note also that by denigrating the idea of a "full-time dad" or "house-dad", feminism is also saying that a homemaker role is one to be looked down upon.

In the end, there are no favors for women in feminism.
 
2013-02-10 01:24:27 PM

The_Original_Roxtar: If you ladies would like to be treated as equals, you must be willing to give up the privileged status you enjoy in so many aspects of life.


Oh, you!
 
2013-02-10 01:24:59 PM

toddalmighty: Broads don't like being called tomatoes.

Vamp Tomato


lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-02-10 01:27:51 PM
The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.
 
2013-02-10 01:29:33 PM
Hos don't like being called coozes.
 
2013-02-10 01:30:31 PM

douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.


Check your privilege.
 
2013-02-10 01:31:21 PM

DS1970: In the end, there are no favors for women in feminism.


I thought it was about equality, not doing one side favors.
 
2013-02-10 01:34:39 PM

douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.


The wealthy and privileged tend to have the time and resources to take on causes and be listened to where a poor person does not.

/This is not surprising to most people
 
2013-02-10 01:34:48 PM

douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.


Actually, I've found this to be true about a number of self-described "feminists": upper-middle class background, highly educated, high-five or six figure income, life of privilege... yet somehow, they're "oppressed" because one guy in a bar once called them "fat".
 
2013-02-10 01:36:55 PM
Why is there never any discussion about masculinists?
 
2013-02-10 01:37:22 PM
Women in the workplace is why things can now cost twice what they used to, putting single-income households at a disadvantage. Discuss.
 
2013-02-10 01:40:10 PM

stiletto_the_wise: Women in the workplace is why things can now cost twice what they used to, putting single-income households at a disadvantage. Discuss.


Yes, because look at how great the economies are in countries where women aren't allowed to work outside the home.

You do know that women have always worked, don't you? It's just now employers have to at least pretend to pay them a similar wage to men. What do you think happened to women whose husbands died or left them?
 
2013-02-10 01:42:50 PM
overcompensating.com
 
2013-02-10 01:43:16 PM

WhippingBoy: douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.

Actually, I've found this to be true about a number of self-described "feminists": upper-middle class background, highly educated, high-five or six figure income, life of privilege... yet somehow, they're "oppressed" because one guy in a bar once called them "fat".


Name one.
 
2013-02-10 01:43:27 PM

Urbn: douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.

The wealthy and privileged tend to have the time and resources to take on causes and be listened to where a poor person does not.

/This is not surprising to most people


That's not cool pointing this out and generally deflating the arguments of a lot of people in this thread who are too pussy to admit they merely want women back in the kitchen.
 
2013-02-10 01:45:40 PM

rustypouch: dersk: DamnYankees: Feminism is one of those things which was so successful in completely transforming the way society views itself and its goal was so broadly achieved and became so 'normal' (mostly), that the idea of having a movement for it become a weird thing and therefore garnered a lot of hate.

Were you not paying attention during the last Presidential election? There seem to be a lot of pretty paleo politicians around who still want to dicktate to women.

And a lot of them want to dick men, preferably anonymously.


And what does that have to do with men dictating what contraceptive choices they're allowed? Or are you saying that most of the Akers crowd are closeted gays?
 
2013-02-10 01:46:11 PM

Ross E. Krushan: Why is there never any discussion about masculinists?


We do, but the preferred term is "pick up artist".
 
2013-02-10 01:46:21 PM

dersk: WhippingBoy: douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.

Actually, I've found this to be true about a number of self-described "feminists": upper-middle class background, highly educated, high-five or six figure income, life of privilege... yet somehow, they're "oppressed" because one guy in a bar once called them "fat".

Name one.


One has posted in this thread.
 
2013-02-10 01:46:50 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Urbn: douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.

The wealthy and privileged tend to have the time and resources to take on causes and be listened to where a poor person does not.

/This is not surprising to most people

That's not cool pointing this out and generally deflating the arguments of a lot of people in this thread who are too pussy to admit they merely want women back in the kitchen.


In that bit after 'to admit,' I think you may have misspelled 'they're just bitter because they can't get laid.'
 
2013-02-10 01:48:13 PM
What do they call the useless skin sound the vagina?
 
2013-02-10 01:48:15 PM

WhippingBoy: dersk: WhippingBoy: douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.

Actually, I've found this to be true about a number of self-described "feminists": upper-middle class background, highly educated, high-five or six figure income, life of privilege... yet somehow, they're "oppressed" because one guy in a bar once called them "fat".

Name one.

One has posted in this thread.


And that would be...?
 
2013-02-10 01:48:20 PM
i478.photobucket.com


Would have set her straight...
 
2013-02-10 01:49:03 PM
oi48.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-10 01:49:13 PM

dersk: Crotchrocket Slim: Urbn: douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.

The wealthy and privileged tend to have the time and resources to take on causes and be listened to where a poor person does not.

/This is not surprising to most people

That's not cool pointing this out and generally deflating the arguments of a lot of people in this thread who are too pussy to admit they merely want women back in the kitchen.

In that bit after 'to admit,' I think you may have misspelled 'they're just bitter because they can't get laid.'


I find them to be separate groups, but there definitely is a huge overlap.
 
2013-02-10 01:49:29 PM

dersk: WhippingBoy: dersk: WhippingBoy: douchebag/hater: The Betty Friedan who came from a well-off family and went to private schools all her life then married 'wealthy' and had maids cleaning her houses and basically had the world by the tail then wrote a book biatching how tough it is to be a woman?That Betty Friedan?

Bullshiat is bullshiat especially from a hypocrite.

Actually, I've found this to be true about a number of self-described "feminists": upper-middle class background, highly educated, high-five or six figure income, life of privilege... yet somehow, they're "oppressed" because one guy in a bar once called them "fat".

Name one.

One has posted in this thread.

And that would be...?


I'd rather not get banned.

How about any PhD level professor of "Gender Studies" working at a major university?
 
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