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(Forbes)   Obama used his magical time machine to go back in time to 2007, fully implement Obamanomics, and crash the economy into the worst five years since the Great Depression   (forbes.com) divider line 458
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2013-02-10 03:49:50 PM

LargeCanine: udhq: LargeCanine: This became Obama's economy the moment he signed the first Stimulus bill promising that unemployment, then at less than 7%, would not go above 8%.

Its pretty funny listening to Democrats throw out all kinds of desperate excuses blaming Republicans for the current crappy economy.

Nothing you can say or do is ever going to change the fact that the economic policies of the Republican Party caused our economy to go into the deepest recession in 50 years.

It should be telling that the best you can do is to argue that the democrats aren't cleaning up your mess fast enough.

Nah. The economy would have recovered years ago if it were not for Obama's policies. The next President is going to have to clean up OBAMA'S mess, economic, diplomatic, and administrative.


What do you mean "would have recovered"?  The economy is experiencing healthy, sustained growth for the first time in a decade under Obama's policies.

The economy sustained a devastating contraction under the policies that you're advocating.

The US has never in history wielded more diplomatic clout than it does now.  Your fantasies about American decline are just not supported by reality.
 
2013-02-10 03:49:58 PM

udhq: You can argue that we're growing slowly, but we're clearly and objectively not in recession.  Obama in inherited a recession, and ended it almost immediately.  That's reality, you can't argue with that.


Arguing with reality is the entire Republican MO, though.
 
2013-02-10 03:50:35 PM

Saturn5: 2007 Democrat majority in Congress.  Coincidence?


Yes.
 
2013-02-10 03:51:09 PM

LargeCanine: Nah. The economy would have recovered years ago if it were not for Obama's policies.


And it would've stopped the economic crisis in Europe from happening too right?
 
2013-02-10 03:51:56 PM

Mrtraveler01: Saturn5: 2007 Democrat majority in Congress.  Coincidence?

Bush was forced to sign off on everything they did!

Once again, the "Party of Personal Responsibility" not taking any responsibility.


Kind of like Bush signing the Fascist Patriot Act and the kinder and gentler Obama extending it.
Bush was not a good conservative with fiscal policy.  He had the highest deficit in recorded history at that time - $455 Billion.

Just ignore that the smallest of Obama's deficits have been two to four times that much.
 
2013-02-10 03:54:30 PM

randomjsa: A bit like how Bush was somehow responsible for the tech bubble burst right at the end of the Clinton administration which was the primary force behind many job losses during his first term, but that didn't stop liberals from running ads blaming him for it in 2004 now did it?

At what point precisely is Obama responsible for anything negative? As it stands right now he is somehow simultaneously responsible for absolutely nothing and absolutely everything. He's like the Schrodinger's cat of presidents. The only other people who behave like this are religious fundamentalists trying to simultaneously tell you what a great guy their god is while at the same time explaining away all the bad things that happen as either not his fault or your own fault.


Ladies and gentlemen, my first "ignore".

Not because he's conservative, not even because he's an idiot, but because he's a gutless threadshiatter who lobs bombs then runs away because he knows his beliefs are wrong and indefensible.

Bottom line?  Parents, teach your kids the difference between good attention and bad attention, or else they'll end up like our friend randomjsa here.
 
2013-02-10 04:04:31 PM

Saturn5: Mrtraveler01: Saturn5: 2007 Democrat majority in Congress.  Coincidence?

Bush was forced to sign off on everything they did!

Once again, the "Party of Personal Responsibility" not taking any responsibility.

Kind of like Bush signing the Fascist Patriot Act and the kinder and gentler Obama extending it.
Bush was not a good conservative with fiscal policy.  He had the highest deficit in recorded history at that time - $455 Billion.

Just ignore that the smallest of Obama's deficits have been two to four times that much.


As long as you keep ignoring that Bush came into his first term with a surplus, I Will!
 
2013-02-10 04:05:14 PM

Mrtraveler01: Can we finally drop this stupid "Obama promised" BS when he did nothing of the sort?


Christina Romer promised it would stay under 8% because she failed to take into account the golden rule, never make projections until you have all the facts. The revised numbers showed just how FUBAR our situation was. She went with preliminary numbers and was trying to be a good cheerleader. They have been hanging that one line around Obama's neck ever since she said it, and I knew they would because I had an instant facepalm when I saw her say it live.

Obama said nothing of the 8%, but Romer did. It's unfortunate, because she seems to be a very competent and capable woman. She got caught up in the whole thing and shot off too soon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/06/AR20 10 080606271.html

Of course, it was not the promise made by the President considering the revised numbers, but because something was said once, it means that Obama said it and we're all his slaves, or something.

It was a fluid situation and they did mostly the right things. One day, a long time from now... even the idiots will realize that the right things were done for the benefit of the country. Just not now or in the near future.
 
2013-02-10 04:05:29 PM

LargeCanine: udhq: LargeCanine: This became Obama's economy the moment he signed the first Stimulus bill promising that unemployment, then at less than 7%, would not go above 8%.

Its pretty funny listening to Democrats throw out all kinds of desperate excuses blaming Republicans for the current crappy economy.

Nothing you can say or do is ever going to change the fact that the economic policies of the Republican Party caused our economy to go into the deepest recession in 50 years.

It should be telling that the best you can do is to argue that the democrats aren't cleaning up your mess fast enough.

Nah. The economy would have recovered years ago if it were not for Obama 's Bush's policies. The next President is going to have to Obama has cleaned up OBAMA'S Bush' mess, economic, diplomatic, and administrative.

FTFY and reality

 
2013-02-10 04:06:17 PM

Saturn5: Mrtraveler01: Saturn5: 2007 Democrat majority in Congress.  Coincidence?

Bush was forced to sign off on everything they did!

Once again, the "Party of Personal Responsibility" not taking any responsibility.

Kind of like Bush signing the Fascist Patriot Act and the kinder and gentler Obama extending it.
Bush was not a good conservative with fiscal policy.  He had the highest deficit in recorded history at that time - $455 Billion.

Just ignore that the smallest of Obama's deficits have been two to four times that much.


cdn.factcheck.org

LOLNo.
 
2013-02-10 04:08:23 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

THANKS OBAMA
 
2013-02-10 04:09:29 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Thanks, Obama!
 
2013-02-10 04:09:55 PM

Saturn5: Mrtraveler01: Saturn5: 2007 Democrat majority in Congress.  Coincidence?

Bush was forced to sign off on everything they did!

Once again, the "Party of Personal Responsibility" not taking any responsibility.

Kind of like Bush signing the Fascist Patriot Act and the kinder and gentler Obama extending it.
Bush was not a good conservative with fiscal policy.  He had the highest deficit in recorded history at that time - $455 Billion.

Just ignore that the smallest of Obama's deficits have been two to four times that much.


Just ignore that W kept BOTH wars off the books, and 2bama put them back on the books.
 
2013-02-10 04:10:15 PM

NewportBarGuy: Christina Romer


Say what you want about Christina Romer, but she was the only one who had the guts to talk about the president's secret plan to fight inflation.
 
2013-02-10 04:10:30 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Actually, it says "over" $775 million, and does not give a specific number.


ummm... thanks for the assist.

Granny_Panties: Why was I left out this time? Can you please tell us what bills the 2 member majority Democrat Senate passed in 2007 and 2008 that sunk the economy?

We are waiting..


Mrbogey: People are looking too closely at men and not ideas. Obama's ideas are a continuation of failed economic ideas.


Granny_Panties: Mrbogey: A bit like how Bush was somehow responsible for the tech bubble burst right at the end of the Clinton administration which was the primary force behind many job losses during his first term, but that didn't stop liberals from running ads blaming him for it in 2004 now did it?

At what point precisely is Obama responsible for anything negative? As it stands right now he is somehow simultaneously responsible for absolutely nothing and absolutely everything. He's like the Schrodinger's cat of presidents. The only other people who behave like this are religious fundamentalists trying to simultaneously tell you what a great guy their god is while at the same time explaining away all the bad things that happen as either not his fault or your own fault.

Really?


I was puzzled at first why my name was highlighted and the words that followed were foreign to me. I get the intent of what you did there. But no, I'm not anyone other than me.

Mrtraveler01: Can we finally drop this stupid "Obama promised" BS when he did nothing of the sort?


Okay, Democrats can't be assed to make decent projections. We agree.

udhq: Actually, let's back up: you are aware that a recession is an actual, specific event with a real definition (2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth), and not just a word for a lot of eceonomic bad news, right?


That's not true anymore. We didn't have 2 consecutive bad quarters in 07Q01 and yet here we are.

udhq: The economy is experiencing healthy, sustained growth for the first time in a decade under Obama's policies.


Not even God Almighty can sink this ship.
 
2013-02-10 04:12:24 PM

udhq: LargeCanine: udhq: LargeCanine: This became Obama's economy the moment he signed the first Stimulus bill promising that unemployment, then at less than 7%, would not go above 8%.

Its pretty funny listening to Democrats throw out all kinds of desperate excuses blaming Republicans for the current crappy economy.

Nothing you can say or do is ever going to change the fact that the economic policies of the Republican Party caused our economy to go into the deepest recession in 50 years.

It should be telling that the best you can do is to argue that the democrats aren't cleaning up your mess fast enough.

Nah. The economy would have recovered years ago if it were not for Obama's policies. The next President is going to have to clean up OBAMA'S mess, economic, diplomatic, and administrative.

What do you mean "would have recovered"?  The economy is experiencing healthy, sustained growth for the first time in a decade under Obama's policies.

The economy sustained a devastating contraction under the policies that you're advocating.

The US has never in history wielded more diplomatic clout than it does now.  Your fantasies about American decline are just not supported by reality.



The economy has been experiencing anemic growth which is often lower than the rate of population growth, high inflation, and high official and even higher real unemployment. Much of the "growth" is really just government deficit spending and is not real productivity and will have to be repaid someday.

Obama hurts the poor with regressive policies like Quantitative Easing in which the government invents money out of nothing, thus reducing the value of each dollar. This hurts the poor because their income and money is worth less, and they have little in the way of tangible assets. Affluent people have tangible assets which increase in price, hedging against inflation. Thus, every time Geithner massively increases the money supply, he is taxing the poor.

Diplomatically, we have alienated our allies and are held in contempt my the Russians and Chinese. Our embassies are being targeted. Friendly governments can't rely on us and are making deals/alliance predicated on American weakness. Obama has been judged by the international community as being feckless and weak.

I didn't advocate any particular policy, and saying that I advocated politics leading to contraction is simply you projecting. I never said anything about America being in decline. You are trying to put words into my mouth - building a straw man to knock down. Of course, you knew that, you are just trying to change the subject from Obama.
 
2013-02-10 04:13:11 PM

Mrtraveler01: LargeCanine: Nah. The economy would have recovered years ago if it were not for Obama's policies.

And it would've stopped the economic crisis in Europe from happening too right?


Europe's ecconomic issues are self-inflicted, much like ours.
 
2013-02-10 04:15:33 PM

Mrbogey: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Oh, and if you couldn't beat a sitting President who presided over the worst 5 years since the Great Depression, what does it say about you and the ideas you hold dear?

Democracy means popular ideas win not good ones. Americans are being brought up to think less critically and accept bad ideas as good ideas. And that's all that counts when it comes to winning elections.


Um, so are you saying that privatizing social security and medicare are good ideas?
 
2013-02-10 04:15:35 PM

LargeCanine: Seems that way. Blame Bush for an economy that is Obama's. Accusing Republicans for policies that Obama implemented. Hope smells more like desperation.


The "What If?" literary genre isn't really my cup of tea, so I'm not going to try to critique your writings or anything. I just feel that a Fark Politics thread isn't necessarily the best place for you to be debuting your work.
 
2013-02-10 04:16:27 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Saturn5: Mrtraveler01: Saturn5: 2007 Democrat majority in Congress.  Coincidence?

Bush was forced to sign off on everything they did!

Once again, the "Party of Personal Responsibility" not taking any responsibility.

Kind of like Bush signing the Fascist Patriot Act and the kinder and gentler Obama extending it.
Bush was not a good conservative with fiscal policy.  He had the highest deficit in recorded history at that time - $455 Billion.

Just ignore that the smallest of Obama's deficits have been two to four times that much.

Just ignore that W kept BOTH wars off the books, and 2bama put them back on the books.


Oh, come on, libby von libenstein from liberalvania!  Don't you think the mainstream MSM media would mention that fact when they mention the deficit?  Don't you think they'd point out to partisan Republicans that they had no problem with debt when it came to demolishing and then rebuilding two foreign nations?  Of course they would, because they're fair, and they're balanced.
 
2013-02-10 04:17:59 PM

LargeCanine: Mrtraveler01: LargeCanine: Nah. The economy would have recovered years ago if it were not for Obama's policies.

And it would've stopped the economic crisis in Europe from happening too right?

Europe's ecconomic issues are self-inflicted, much like ours.


So you agree that Bush's bad policies tanked the economy? Good to know.
 
2013-02-10 04:19:03 PM

LargeCanine: Diplomatically, we have alienated our allies and are held in contempt my the Russians and Chinese.


It was like that way before Obama came into office.

LargeCanine: Our embassies are being targeted.


They're always targeted.

LargeCanine: Friendly governments can't rely on us and are making deals/alliance predicated on American weakness. Obama has been judged by the international community as being feckless and weak.


Who has actually said this besides Neoconservative wingnuts?
 
2013-02-10 04:21:06 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: Just ignore that W kept BOTH wars off the books, and 2bama put them back on the books.


Are we still talking federal deficit or national debt? There's no keeping something off the books for national debt unless it's through clever use of bonds and interest rates and repayment there of (TARP). Bush had low deficits with his proposed budget because he did supplemental budgeting to pay for it but the national debt still grew due to it. Bush, the wars, and everything took the debt from about 5 trillion to about 10 trillion. Obama has taken it from about 10 trillion to about 16.5 with projected debt to reach 20T when he leaves office.

The largest Bush deficit his in 2008 due to TARP. Since then Obama has not really lowered his deficits.
 
2013-02-10 04:22:11 PM
Mrbogey

Do you get some kind of sexual pleasure out of being told you're wrong on the internet? There's got to be a better way to get your kicks than this.
 
2013-02-10 04:24:04 PM
NewportBarGuy: What an asshole.
 
2013-02-10 04:24:47 PM

Mrbogey: Mrtraveler01: Can we finally drop this stupid "Obama promised" BS when he did nothing of the sort?

Okay, Democrats can't be assed to make decent projections. We agree.


I think the Democrats can make decent projections, much like everyone else. What went wrong was the Democrats didn't take into account the possibility that the opposing party was willing to destroy the economy to prove the Democrats wrong.  When the GOP took over the House of Representatives in November 2010 (and starting in January 2011), the GOP promised to work on creating jobs, jobs, jobs. Instead, they did nothing of the sort, even going as far as filibustering their own bills that would create jobs.

If Romer had added that into the equation, I'm sure her assessment would be a bit different.
 
2013-02-10 04:25:42 PM

Mrbogey: udhq: Actually, let's back up: you are aware that a recession is an actual, specific event with a real definition (2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth), and not just a word for a lot of economic bad news, right?

That's not true anymore. We didn't have 2 consecutive bad quarters in 07Q01 and yet here we are.


Wait, so your argument is that there was never a recession in the first place?

udhq: The economy is experiencing healthy, sustained growth for the first time in a decade under Obama's policies.

Not even God Almighty can sink this ship.


Fair enough, you're free to believe that the positive economic tides of the last few years happened in spite of Obama rather than because of him, but it's just that:  a belief.  It's dogma, it exists independently of all evidence, either pro or con.

That's difference between you and me, and ultimately between liberals and conservatives, I would suspect:  your disapproval of Obama exists without regard to any evidence, either way, whereas I allowed Bush to plead his case, and in the end he provided me with all the evidence I needed to conclude that he and policies of his party were a failure.
 
2013-02-10 04:25:48 PM

fatassbastard: NewportBarGuy: What an asshole.

 
2013-02-10 04:25:48 PM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Um, so are you saying that privatizing social security and medicare are good ideas?


Had we partially privatized SS as was proposed by Republicans circa 2005, those eligible would have started investing in early 2009. They would begin retiring next year. The growth rate from 2009 to current in the market would have been wildly beneficial. The gov't would have unloaded debt obligation and retirees would have made significant financial growth in their retirement accounts.

This is looking back of course but it disproves the argument of the dangers of privatized accounts.

Medicare will eventually collapse either way at this point so old people are farked either way.
 
2013-02-10 04:26:39 PM

Mrbogey: Granny_Panties: Why was I left out this time? Can you please tell us what bills the 2 member majority Democrat Senate passed in 2007 and 2008 that sunk the economy?

We are waiting..


Why won't you answer the question?

I know why. Because the Democrat majorities in 2007 and 2008 had zero to do with it. That's why you "smart" guys refuse to answer the question. What bills? Why is this so hard for you guys?

Now log back into your other account randomjsa. We all know it's you. Get over yourself. You'll screw up and out yourself in a more obvious manor eventually.
 
2013-02-10 04:28:22 PM

Mrbogey: The largest Bush deficit his in 2008 due to TARP. Since then Obama has not really lowered his deficits.


Don't forget the collapsing of the tax base as businesses and people all across the country stopped making money at the same time.  And in 2009, and 2010.  Businesses got profitable again, but at the expense of the now-unemployed former laborer who is still not paying taxes.  I think it's too convenient to forget that sometimes.

"Why, 50% of Americans don't even pay income taxes anymore!  We're a nation of takers!!!!"  But don't bother asking why 50% of Americans don't make enough money to qualify to pay taxes anymore.  That question is verboten.  And the cost of unemployment insurance, and food stamps, and, why look at that you get real close to explaining the deficit.
 
2013-02-10 04:30:31 PM

LargeCanine: udhq: LargeCanine: udhq: LargeCanine: This became Obama's economy the moment he signed the first Stimulus bill promising that unemployment, then at less than 7%, would not go above 8%.

Its pretty funny listening to Democrats throw out all kinds of desperate excuses blaming Republicans for the current crappy economy.

Nothing you can say or do is ever going to change the fact that the economic policies of the Republican Party caused our economy to go into the deepest recession in 50 years.

It should be telling that the best you can do is to argue that the democrats aren't cleaning up your mess fast enough.

Nah. The economy would have recovered years ago if it were not for Obama's policies. The next President is going to have to clean up OBAMA'S mess, economic, diplomatic, and administrative.

What do you mean "would have recovered"?  The economy is experiencing healthy, sustained growth for the first time in a decade under Obama's policies.

The economy sustained a devastating contraction under the policies that you're advocating.

The US has never in history wielded more diplomatic clout than it does now.  Your fantasies about American decline are just not supported by reality.


The economy has been experiencing anemic growth which is often lower than the rate of population growth, high inflation, and high official and even higher real unemployment. Much of the "growth" is really just government deficit spending and is not real productivity and will have to be repaid someday.

Obama hurts the poor with regressive policies like Quantitative Easing in which the government invents money out of nothing, thus reducing the value of each dollar. This hurts the poor because their income and money is worth less, and they have little in the way of tangible assets. Affluent people have tangible assets which increase in price, hedging against inflation. Thus, every time Geithner massively increases the money supply, he is taxing the poor.

Diplomatically, we have alienated ...


You do know that embassies have been targeted since forever, right?
 
2013-02-10 04:31:40 PM

Granny_Panties: Why won't you answer the question?


I answered it for you. You were just too daft to realize it.

Granny_Panties: Now log back into your other account randomjsa. We all know it's you. Get over yourself. You'll screw up and out yourself in a more obvious manor eventually.


I figured that's why you edited my name onto his reply. It's odd when I get an email alert saying someone is quoting me and the reply is completely foreign. Your ability to assess sockpuppets is worse than your economic acumen. I hope you aren't speaking for everyone. I'd hate to think less of people I already spend too much time thinking less of.
 
2013-02-10 04:33:43 PM

Biological Ali: Do you get some kind of sexual pleasure out of being told you're wrong on the internet? There's got to be a better way to get your kicks than this.


He gets paid for it.
 
2013-02-10 04:37:45 PM
 "I don't have time to "fact check" every piece of political swagger that comes across. Do I feel Obama should have to put up or shut up? YES. There's no fact check for my beliefs."

 - quote from a Republican friend, when presented with factual, non-partisan information.

/asked her if she "believed" 2+2 = potato
//she's a teacher
 
2013-02-10 04:39:05 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-10 04:39:40 PM

Mrbogey: Granny_Panties: Now log back into your other account randomjsa. We all know it's you. Get over yourself. You'll screw up and out yourself in a more obvious manor eventually.

I figured that's why you edited my name onto his reply. It's odd when I get an email alert saying someone is quoting me and the reply is completely foreign. Your ability to assess sockpuppets is worse than your economic acumen. I hope you aren't speaking for everyone. I'd hate to think less of people I already spend too much time thinking less of.


You two do seem to share the same persecution complex where everyone is out to get Conservatives for whatever reason pops up in your head.

/Just an observation
 
2013-02-10 04:47:39 PM

dionysusaur: Except that, as we all know, the Right is not part of the Reality-Based Community.


i just got an email from my governor bobby jindal touting his school reform successes. not mentioned is that the legislation went to court and was ruled unconstitutional.

A Baton Rouge judge ruled Friday that Louisiana's expanded voucher program, and another key legislatively approved piece of Gov. Bobby Jindal's plan to overhaul public schools, "unconstitutionally divert" public funds to private and parochial schools.

if you saw what private religious wack job schools were now getting voucher money you would know why the judge threw the voucher law out.

by reply i ask bobby why that wasn't mentioned in his email. one of these days he is going to take me off the email list. and perhaps add me to some others :)
 
2013-02-10 04:48:09 PM

CygnusDarius: Little do you all guys know that Obama, with his time machine, also altered the outcome of the Crusades.

Here is evidence of his meddling:

[realhistoryww.com image 767x553]


You posted the doctored version of that painting. Here is the REAL one:

i1222.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-10 04:50:05 PM

Mrtraveler01: You two do seem to share the same persecution complex where everyone is out to get Conservatives for whatever reason pops up in your head.


Persecution? I've not alleged that. There is a bias by some posters against anything conservative to the point where in some threads things that have nothing to do with conservatives get labeled as conservative due to the froth. People don't like their ideas challenged. Most people here are liberal... ergo they don't challenge their beliefs and they hate when others do.

And no, modern liberalism isn't about questioning beliefs. It's essentially what old progressivism used to be. Just another catalogue of ideas that is in search of good packaging.
 
2013-02-10 04:51:41 PM
Also,

i1222.photobucket.com

/oblig
 
2013-02-10 04:52:06 PM

Zeppelininthesky: You do know that embassies have been targeted since forever, right?


Because once Omaba got his time machine, "when" didn't matter anymore, now did it?
 
2013-02-10 04:52:21 PM

Mrbogey: And no, modern liberalism isn't about questioning beliefs. It's essentially what old progressivism used to be. Just another catalogue of ideas that is in search of good packaging.


Can't we say that modern Conservatism is the same thing?
 
2013-02-10 04:53:07 PM

GreatGlavinsGhost: Also,

[i1222.photobucket.com image 591x180]

/oblig


Dammit!
 
2013-02-10 04:53:16 PM
Thanks Obama.
lh6.ggpht.com
 
2013-02-10 04:53:49 PM
tenpoundsofcheese (farkied: It ain't cheese): Let's see.  I wonder if anything else happened in 2007, like the Dems getting control of the House and all that yummy overspending.

Roight, guv.  It isn't overspending when it goes to killing Scary Mooselimbs for fun and profit.  USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
 
2013-02-10 04:54:10 PM
Good lord. The dumbass contingent drove this thread in to the ground. Within the first 150 comments I see idiotic messiah comments, nazi comparisons, and the standard easily disprovable factual statements.

Impressive.
 
2013-02-10 04:54:24 PM
If I honestly thought Obama or the Dems who got voted into Congress a few months before the 2007 meltdown began had anything to do with it I'd be the first to blame them. But I've yet to see any credible evidence it wasn't the result of the same free market deregulation policies right wingers have always pushed.

There's nothing wrong with easing regulation to stimulate growth temporarily as long as it doesn't get out of hand, especially in the housing sector. Construction jobs have always been the basic barometer of our economy because it has the greatest impact on every aspect of the market for each dollar spent. But it got out of hand under the Republican's watch and to argue otherwise is just plain stupid.

What's more, they were warned time and time again but chose to ignore it despite the fact we had just emerged from the so-called tech bubble - an almost identical situation where scam artists were shuffling money from one account to another short-trading and margin trading until the whole thing just finally collapsed.

Nobody worried about the national debt, government spending, the integrity of our financial system, or anything else back then. It was a goddamn greed festival. In the end only a few benefited from this corruption, most took huge hits to investments and retirement accounts. But the same shiat is still allowed to go on today with only a few exceptions.

Meanwhile, people are whining about Obama phones and food stamps and a culture of entitlement that has nothing to do with the fact that a small cadre of influential rich people are playing us all for fools, while simultaneously race-baiting the morons who think we need to act like China so they can have cheap labor and goods.

You people are f*cking crazy.
 
2013-02-10 04:57:04 PM
The answer seems pretty clear to me - Zero needs to send drones to get all of our jobs back from China. Furthermore, he needs to bring our U6 unemployment rate down by forcing all those retirees back to work.

I don't know who the guy who wrote that article is, but someone needs to remind him this is 2013 - not 1980 anymore.
 
2013-02-10 04:58:56 PM

Mrbogey: Mrtraveler01: You two do seem to share the same persecution complex where everyone is out to get Conservatives for whatever reason pops up in your head.

Persecution? I've not alleged that. There is a bias by some posters against anything conservative to the point where in some threads things that have nothing to do with conservatives get labeled as conservative due to the froth. People don't like their ideas challenged. Most people here are liberal... ergo they don't challenge their beliefs and they hate when others do.

And no, modern liberalism isn't about questioning beliefs. It's essentially what old progressivism used to be. Just another catalogue of ideas that is in search of good packaging.


Our bias is against the party of rape, misogamy  obstructionism,  racism, hate, religious idiocy, rejection of reality, facts, and hatred of everything that is Democrat just to make them look bad.
 
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