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(Washington Post)   "Bowman denies that he has found an ingenious loophole around Monsanto's restriction. 'As far as I know, I'm the only damn dumb farmer around', that tried"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 38
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2013-02-10 11:51:38 AM  
28 votes:
All these fields are yours, except Europa. Attempt no planting there. Use them together. Use them for peas.
2013-02-10 12:00:35 PM  
5 votes:
In other news, 90% of the US soybean crop is marinated in Roundup.

Ummmmm, Roundup.
2013-02-10 11:00:00 AM  
5 votes:
Monsanto is in violation of the DMCA by selling a product which enables copying of a patented product.

/I am very clearly not a lawyer.
2013-02-10 12:18:41 PM  
3 votes:

Champion of the Sun: Weird case, can you purposely do an end around the copyright by buying feed soy and planting it?  If 90% of the feed soy is Monsanto, it makes the practice in violation of the copyright.  Sounds like a restriction on trade.  Longstanding business practice calls for planting feed soy for your second crop.

Both sides have a compelling argument.  One side is a huge business conglomerate.  Wonder who is gonna win?  I'm guessing 5-4 Monsanto.

This guy is probably a bad representative though, if he stopped buying the official seed in 2007 and has been doing the feed soy replanting thing.  Looks like he's purposely avoiding the copyright as opposed to incidentally violating it based on the impossibility of buying non Monsanto feed.


Unless Monsanto's singing songs about it, it's not copyright.  Trademarks, Patents, Copyrights.  Learn the difference.  This is clearly a trademark issue.
/pet peave
2013-02-10 12:03:09 PM  
3 votes:
Monsanto legal staff:
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2013-02-10 11:52:56 AM  
3 votes:
Monsanto is about the closest thing to one of those evil corporations from science fiction we've got going now.  I expect them to change their name to Weyland-Yutani any day now.
2013-02-10 03:30:51 PM  
2 votes:

Man On Fire: jake_lex: Monsanto is about the closest thing to one of those evil corporations from science fiction we've got going now.  I expect them to change their name to Weyland-Yutani Umbrella Soylent Tyrell Corporation CHOAM any day now.

ftfy.


The soy must flow.
2013-02-10 12:58:32 PM  
2 votes:

Thisbymaster: For no reason whatsoever should a company be able to copyright a living thing, or dna.  That allows for them to "copyright" people which is slavery. I want this and all the bull shiat the MPAA to come tumbling down.  If there needs to be laws to make your company profitable then your company shouldn't profitable.


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2013-02-10 12:26:50 PM  
2 votes:
ModernLuddite:
But I guess you can do whatever the fark you want if you have an ass load of money.

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2013-02-10 12:19:24 PM  
2 votes:
You always get the feeling that Monsanto would manufacture soylent green if they thought they could get away with it.
2013-02-10 12:15:01 PM  
2 votes:
www.washingtonpost.com
This photo is farking photoshopped. I've never been more certain of anything in my life.
2013-02-10 12:01:20 PM  
2 votes:
Next, Monsanto will be invent itself as a religion and claim tax free status since they have a patent on creation.  Hand me that non genetically modified popcorn.
2013-02-10 11:55:18 AM  
2 votes:

jake_lex: Monsanto is about the closest thing to one of those evil corporations from science fiction we've got going now.  I expect them to change their name to Weyland-Yutani Umbrella any day now.


ftfy
2013-02-10 04:39:12 PM  
1 votes:
It's been 23 years since the day I wandered into the Walmarts plant section while waiting on my wife to finish shopping. They had a twelve pack of hot banana peppers at a clearance sale for two bucks so I got two flats. They were some mighty good plants, had a fine flavor and produced prodigiously, so at the end of the year I prepared the seeds to grow the next year. When they came up the next year they were a different crop altogether, the plants were not as hardy, produced normal peppers in the first burst and then only stunted peppers afterwards.

I took them in to the county agent to see what was wrong and he immediately identified them as Monsanto genetically modified terminator plants--plants that supposedly have sterile seeds. All that work down the tubes because some needledick varmint figured out a way to make more money selling farked up plants but didn't bother to tell you. This so pissed me off that I swore never to use Monsanto products again and started looking into what products they made that I used. All the fertilizer I used was Monsanto, so I did some studying on alternative means and started using chicken manure, only you had to go fetch it and then dry it out otherwise it would burn the plants. It was extra work, but I switched, way back, when fertilizer was still cheap. Now the price of fertilizer is four times what it was while the price of the chicken manure to me is a tank of gas and sitting around for several hours and catching up with the lonely old dude who runs the chicken farm. He quit charging me for the manure when he sold out to a corporation. It saves me several thousand dollars a year and it's been more than twenty years since the switch. So I figure I'm doing my part to stamp out evil in the world and saving big bucks at the same time.

So fark Monsanto up the ass with a red hot piece of two inch rebar. And then double back and do the fartblast nine (Scotus)
the same way because you already know how this is going to end up once it hits those "corporations are people" slimeball scumsuckers.

/Selling farked up plants that don't seed is an abomination.
2013-02-10 04:18:25 PM  
1 votes:

Valiente: ED-209


and here it is:
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2013-02-10 03:20:43 PM  
1 votes:

Champion of the Sun: Weird case, can you purposely do an end around the copyright by buying feed soy and planting it?  If 90% of the feed soy is Monsanto, it makes the practice in violation of the copyright.  Sounds like a restriction on trade.  Longstanding business practice calls for planting feed soy for your second crop.

Both sides have a compelling argument.  One side is a huge business conglomerate.  Wonder who is gonna win?  I'm guessing 5-4 Monsanto.

This guy is probably a bad representative though, if he stopped buying the official seed in 2007 and has been doing the feed soy replanting thing.  Looks like he's purposely avoiding the copyright as opposed to incidentally violating it based on the impossibility of buying non Monsanto feed.


If 90% of the available seed is Monsanto, and there is no way to tell which is and which isn't, then there is a high likelyhood that most second crops are Round-up Ready. Moninsano has created, with their copyright, a situation where the farmer cannot farm without stepping on 'Insano's toes. You can copyright the seeds you produce, but you can't copyright the consequences of the seed you produce. 2nd gen soybeans are a product of the environment created by Manoamano, a freely grown fact of nature, thus not under copyright. They're trying to license wheelbarrows and the Gov has let them.

/But the bigger point here, folks...WE'RE EATING ROUND-UP!
2013-02-10 03:17:07 PM  
1 votes:
If I were into biotechnology I could totally see homebrewing Roundup resistant weeds to take down Monsanto.  It'd be glorious.
2013-02-10 02:01:53 PM  
1 votes:

Arthur Jumbles: spoiler alert:  the soybeans have a genetic timebomb. 9 generations and the next plant isn't soy beans, it's terrible super roundup resistant weeds.


Wait, you're saying that they can tinker with the genome to the extent of the plants changing  species after a set number of generations?

Man, apparently we should stop paying Monsanto and start worshiping them, because if you can get around that much "biology does not work that way" to execute a business plan then you're not so much a corporation as a pantheon.
2013-02-10 01:57:55 PM  
1 votes:
So, Monsanto has patented the first machine designed to make unlimited copies of itself. good luck on that
2013-02-10 01:51:47 PM  
1 votes:

dryknife: Super marijuana seeds by Monsanto coming to your Co-op soon.


Look out, your high will technically be owned by Monsanto.

I'm not sure what that means, but their lawyers do.
2013-02-10 01:44:30 PM  
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: As the Bowman and Scruggs cases suggest, Monsanto has alway aggressively enforced these patent rights. However, Monsanto has announced that once the patents expire, it will no longer enforce its existing technology licenses. At that point, farmers will be free to save their GM soybean seeds and replant them at will. In addition, the expiration of the patents also allows others to manufacture other Roundup Ready organisms.


So they got their new model "weedkiller" all lined up then?

spoiler alert:  the soybeans have a genetic timebomb. 9 generations and the next plant isn't soy beans, it's terrible super roundup resistant weeds.
2013-02-10 01:43:34 PM  
1 votes:
2013-02-10 01:25:14 PM  
1 votes:

jaybeezey: Quit yer biatching and get in the fight then.


Oh, I'm in the fight.

They make crops, right? Well I stopped eating entirely.

I'm gonna hit these sons of biatches in the pocket book, right where it hurts!
2013-02-10 01:24:55 PM  
1 votes:
Super marijuana seeds by Monsanto coming to your Co-op soon.
2013-02-10 01:10:06 PM  
1 votes:
The progeny argument is interesting... Wouldn't this suggest that if you had IVF to have a kid, that your kid could be sue for having their own kid naturally?
2013-02-10 12:46:14 PM  
1 votes:
2013-02-10 12:33:04 PM  
1 votes:

utah dude: I really wish Americans would stop attacking Monsanto. Their business practices,  even the sum-history of their environmental damage,is so much less than their major competitor (hint, based in Europe) - - if people only knew what was going on over there. omfg.


Bayer?

Fark Bayer.

Fark them in their bee killing you know whats!
2013-02-10 12:27:17 PM  
1 votes:

GhostfacedFiddlah: Unless Monsanto's singing songs about it, it's not copyright. Trademarks, Patents, Copyrights. Learn the difference. This is clearly a trademark issue.
/pet peave


You should not capitalize "Patents, Copyrights " there.

/ Grammer Nazi
2013-02-10 12:22:41 PM  
1 votes:
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: You always get the feeling that Monsanto would manufacture soylent green if they thought they could get away with it.

Who says they aren't working on it?
2013-02-10 12:19:06 PM  
1 votes:

Britney Spear's Speculum: jake_lex: Monsanto is about the closest thing to one of those evil corporations from science fiction we've got going now.  I expect them to change their name to Weyland-Yutani Umbrella

Soylent any day now.

ftfy


Re-ftfy
2013-02-10 12:18:11 PM  
1 votes:

Arthur Jumbles: jaytkay: In other news, 90% of the US soybean crop is marinated in Roundup.

Ummmmm, Roundup.

[static6.businessinsider.com image 400x300]
Yummy Roundup!


Your link already has an update in it that disputes the findings you're asserting.  Yeah, round up is poison.  That's why it's not sold in the beverage aisle.
2013-02-10 12:14:39 PM  
1 votes:

encyclopediaplushuman: PanicMan: I just don't like the idea of 90% of anything being dominated by one company.

Which is probably why Britain, who has historically invaded or conquered land in 90% of all the countries currently in existence today, is nowhere near as powerful anymore.


Sure, I'll take credit for that.
2013-02-10 12:10:18 PM  
1 votes:

PanicMan: I just don't like the idea of 90% of anything being dominated by one company.


This.  It's even more frightening when it's food.  Necessary evil, my ass.  They could just as easily be a seed bank, but instead they feel the need to own everything.
2013-02-10 12:05:10 PM  
1 votes:
i577.photobucket.com
2013-02-10 12:04:56 PM  
1 votes:

Guuberre: All these fields are yours, except Europa. Attempt no planting there. Use them together. Use them for peas.


Is the loophole full of stars?
2013-02-10 12:03:39 PM  
1 votes:
I just don't like the idea of 90% of anything being dominated by one company.
2013-02-10 12:01:23 PM  
1 votes:
I don't like that, legally, if 1 item in a group of [very large number] items is under a set of rules, then all items in that group are under the same set of rules because it's too hard to differentiate between types.

But I guess you can do whatever the fark you want if you have an ass load of money.
2013-02-10 11:54:36 AM  
1 votes:
Companies like monsanto are the ultimate result of overpopulation and a government that doesn't want riots over food supply stability.  They're a 'necessary' evil.
 
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