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(The Hollywood Reporter)   After having the lowest rated premiere of any scripted TV show ever, Do No Harm will do no more harm to NBC's prime-time lineup   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 106
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2013-02-10 04:57:17 AM  
hello more reality TV! YAY!
 
2013-02-10 07:35:24 AM  
Someone at NBC development has a massive hard-on for multiple personalities. Awake, My Own Worst Enemy, and now Do No Harm. All expensive flops.

I just imagine Seymour Skinner searching for a truant Bart at the Natural History Museum and 4-H and saying "Can I be so out of touch? No, it's the *children* who are wrong."
 
2013-02-10 08:13:07 AM  
Dear NBC: If the first time I ever hear about a show is when the cancellation notices go out, then perhaps you should be cancelling PR dept contracts instead.
 
2013-02-10 08:20:43 AM  

Kyosuke: Dear NBC: If the first time I ever hear about a show is when the cancellation notices go out, then perhaps you should be cancelling PR dept contracts instead.


Sums it up nicely.
 
2013-02-10 08:44:13 AM  
That fact that NBC bought it should have been the first warning sign.
 
2013-02-10 09:02:34 AM  
A modern Dr Jekyll And Mr Hyde story? Watch Jekyll instead, made by Steven Moffatt a few years before he made Sherlock and took over Doctor Who.
 
2013-02-10 09:11:41 AM  
After all this worked out so well for NBC, why not rebroadcast it

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2013-02-10 09:27:22 AM  
does not everybody win ?
 
2013-02-10 09:28:43 AM  

Kyosuke: Dear NBC: If the first time I ever hear about a show is when the cancellation notices go out, then perhaps you should be cancelling PR dept contracts instead.


hahahahaaha
 
2013-02-10 09:43:03 AM  
the lowest rated premiere of any scripted TV show ever

That's quite a distinction. They should get some kind of award.
 
2013-02-10 09:45:39 AM  

Flint Ironstag: A modern Dr Jekyll And Mr Hyde story? Watch Jekyll instead, made by Steven Moffatt a few years before he made Sherlock and took over Doctor Who.


James Nesbitt was outstanding in that series, and it was what I thought of the first time I saw an ad for this thread's show.
Anyone not familiar, seriously, check it out.
 
2013-02-10 09:52:41 AM  

DanZero: After all this worked out so well for NBC, why not rebroadcast it

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ha!
 
2013-02-10 09:53:12 AM  
And where the hell is Grimm? Did they cancel that too?
 
2013-02-10 10:18:19 AM  

coco ebert: And where the hell is Grimm? Did they cancel that too?


Returning March 8th, according to their social media department.
 
2013-02-10 11:04:09 AM  
I'm one of perhaps 14 people in the US who actually watched both episodes of Do No Harm. It was pretty awful.
 
2013-02-10 11:06:11 AM  
Eh I always kinda liked the lead actor when he was in Rescue Me. Sorry this show bombed for him so badly, I don't think he's got the kinda Hollywood clout that will get him another shot after this.

That being said, I didn't watch it. Looked dumb.
 
2013-02-10 11:06:41 AM  

costermonger: Kyosuke: Dear NBC: If the first time I ever hear about a show is when the cancellation notices go out, then perhaps you should be cancelling PR dept contracts instead.

Sums it up nicely.


Yeah, I'm starting to agree more and more with Netflix's gamble on releasing entire seasons at a time. I'm not saying I have any interest in this show, or would have if I had heard about it before its cancelation, but sometimes it takes more than 2 episodes for a show to gain a following.
I'm remembering back to Dollhouse. They were talking about canceling it after the first episode, and that's how I heard about it and ended up loving it (until they actually did cancel it, that is)
 
2013-02-10 11:07:28 AM  
Alana de la Garza nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
2013-02-10 11:07:34 AM  
This is the same network that brought us gems like Animal Practice, Stars Earns Stripes, and Guys With Kids; and it's the same network that interrupted the Olympic Closing Ceremony to show the shiat that was Animal Practice.  So I'm not surprised that they're sucking like a $2 whore in Bangkok when it comes to broadcasting shows that people will like.
 
2013-02-10 11:08:04 AM  

costermonger: Kyosuke: Dear NBC: If the first time I ever hear about a show is when the cancellation notices go out, then perhaps you should be cancelling PR dept contracts instead.

Sums it up nicely.


Lucky guys. They aired promos for it every other break during the NFL playoffs and the Thursday night comedy lineup. The premise was stupid from the outset- a world-renown doctor leaves at exactly 8:25 every night and nobody suspects a thing? Yeah, that's easy to buy into.
 
2013-02-10 11:08:37 AM  

serial_crusher: costermonger: Kyosuke: Dear NBC: If the first time I ever hear about a show is when the cancellation notices go out, then perhaps you should be cancelling PR dept contracts instead.

Sums it up nicely.

Yeah, I'm starting to agree more and more with Netflix's gamble on releasing entire seasons at a time. I'm not saying I have any interest in this show, or would have if I had heard about it before its cancelation, but sometimes it takes more than 2 episodes for a show to gain a following.
I'm remembering back to Dollhouse. They were talking about canceling it after the first episode, and that's how I heard about it and ended up loving it (until they actually did cancel it, that is)


Also, if Do No Harm was really so terrible that nobody watched the first two episodes... Shouldn't they have caught that with a pilot episode?
 
2013-02-10 11:10:49 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Someone at NBC development has a massive hard-on for multiple personalities. Awake, My Own Worst Enemy, and now Do No Harm. All expensive flops.

I just imagine Seymour Skinner searching for a truant Bart at the Natural History Museum and 4-H and saying "Can I be so out of touch? No, it's the *children* who are wrong."


'Awake'. though, was exceptionally good. Well written, well acted, and very engaging. It's a shame NBC cancelled it, but to be fair, it was a bit more advanced than the average American viewer could handle.

And yes, 'Jekyll' is insanely awesome. And it's on Netflix, so folks should check it out.

There's a series from the BBC called 'Marchlands', another 'need to see' series and one which grew out of a series pilot rejected by Fox in America. While it didn't do so well here in America, I think 'Awake' would do well over in the UK. And as the Big 4 continue their quest for Lowest Common Denominator shows, all the creativity in America is going to bleed to cable TV or the BBC.
 
2013-02-10 11:11:25 AM  
Crappy networks cancel crappy new show!
Color me shocked!!
 
2013-02-10 11:17:22 AM  

The correct answer is...: I'm one of perhaps 14 people in the US who actually watched both episodes of Do No Harm. It was pretty awful.


Same here. Terrible.
 
2013-02-10 11:19:57 AM  
I watched the second episode while feeding my kid.  If the best I can say about your show is "It's better than listening to a screaming 3-week-old" then maybe your show has issues.
 
2013-02-10 11:21:56 AM  
Couldn't escape the promos on Youtube - saw nothing relevant to my interests.  Meanwhile, Last Resort, Young Justice, Tron:Uprising, Green Lantern Animated were all canceled this year without even a blu-ray set for me to buy.  Oh well, at least this way when DC Animated Direct to dvd does "The Blackest Night", it will be pg13(should be R) and might even have the whole DC universe instead of just the lantern corps.  I also have a feeling that the next time jump on Young Justice would have been very interesting indeed.
 
2013-02-10 11:26:52 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: 'Awake'. though, was exceptionally good. Well written, well acted, and very engaging. It's a shame NBC cancelled it, but to be fair, it was a bit more advanced than the average American viewer could handle.


I didn't watch Awake since it struck me as a show that wouldn't make it through a single season on a network.  I was also worried that there simply wasn't enough plot there for a full series.  It seemed like it would have worked better as a mini-series or single-season series (like how Last Resort should have been planned from the start).

Flint Ironstag: A modern Dr Jekyll And Mr Hyde story? Watch Jekyll instead, made by Steven Moffatt a few years before he made Sherlock and took over Doctor Who.


I came here to make sure this was mentioned.  It was a seriously good show.  It doesn't take that long to watch the whole series, either.  So anybody who thinks they might like it should just go ahead and start watching it.
 
2013-02-10 11:27:58 AM  
I caught this show this past week.  It reminded me of reading Crichton's last book Micro, Nothing in either made me care about the main characters.

One second it is evening and you got a minute or two of the evil side and next thing the good doc is waking up in a high end convertible sports car in front of a warehouse where the "bad" guys are waiting for him.  it is 8:25 in the morning did not some cop notice this guy "sleeping one off" in his car and check on him.

I've never figured out how NBC passed on Monk and Psych as part of their lineup for the crap shows they have on.
 
2013-02-10 11:29:58 AM  
I can't think of a single show on NBC that I watch currently. I watched The Office before it got...well, you know how it got after Michael left. And I watched Community in its first season but kind of fell out of the habit in the second season. I'm sure I'll pick those up on Netflix sometime. But everything else, it all seems like liquefied shiat.
 
2013-02-10 11:34:34 AM  

Serious Black: I can't think of a single show on NBC that I watch currently. I watched The Office before it got...well, you know how it got after Michael left. And I watched Community in its first season but kind of fell out of the habit in the second season. I'm sure I'll pick those up on Netflix sometime. But everything else, it all seems like liquefied shiat.


The Office was going downhill before Michael left.  He was dragging the rest of the show down with his character.  The show did get much worse the following season, but it's actually doing alright so far this year.

Other than one subplot (the "who was behind the camera" BS), I'm actually pretty happy with what they've done with the show this year.  Bonus: Andy was MIA for most of it so far.
 
2013-02-10 11:35:46 AM  

js34603: Eh I always kinda liked the lead actor when he was in Rescue Me. Sorry this show bombed for him so badly, I don't think he's got the kinda Hollywood clout that will get him another shot after this.

That being said, I didn't watch it. Looked dumb.


why did he pick a retarded show on network?
why would you feel sorry for someone who makes such absurd choices?

Unless he got paid for the full season up front. LOLOL
 
2013-02-10 11:38:28 AM  
From that promo picture, my first thought is Dexter. My second thought is, there's no way NBC could do a Dexter like show.
 
2013-02-10 11:39:36 AM  

NeoCortex42: Flint Ironstag: A modern Dr Jekyll And Mr Hyde story? Watch Jekyll instead, made by Steven Moffatt a few years before he made Sherlock and took over Doctor Who.

I came here to make sure this was mentioned.  It was a seriously good show.  It doesn't take that long to watch the whole series, either.  So anybody who thinks they might like it should just go ahead and start watching it.


THIS THIS AND MORE THIS
It is cute watching america trying to "copy" things that were successfully done in england. I guess there is no money in Hollywood buy the rights and just airing the british shows. ROFL.

On the other hand, it is awesome watching subscriber funded cable do it right.
If only network could air good shows, rather than shows geared toward the mindless masses.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
2013-02-10 11:40:07 AM  
First episode shouldn't be a metric for how good a show is going to be.

/then again NBC did greenlight Heroes, The Event, The Cape, Journeyman (which was good but unsustainable), and Surface
//at least they weren't behind V
 
2013-02-10 11:41:31 AM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Someone at NBC development has a massive hard-on for multiple personalities. Awake, My Own Worst Enemy, and now Do No Harm. All expensive flops.

I just imagine Seymour Skinner searching for a truant Bart at the Natural History Museum and 4-H and saying "Can I be so out of touch? No, it's the *children* who are wrong."

'Awake'. though, was exceptionally good. Well written, well acted, and very engaging. It's a shame NBC cancelled it, but to be fair, it was a bit more advanced than the average American viewer could handle.

And yes, 'Jekyll' is insanely awesome. And it's on Netflix, so folks should check it out.

There's a series from the BBC called 'Marchlands', another 'need to see' series and one which grew out of a series pilot rejected by Fox in America. While it didn't do so well here in America, I think 'Awake' would do well over in the UK. And as the Big 4 continue their quest for Lowest Common Denominator shows, all the creativity in America is going to bleed to cable TV or the BBC.


I'm not saying it's aliens, but....
 
2013-02-10 11:42:49 AM  

namatad: It is cute watching america trying to "copy" things that were successfully done in england. I guess there is no money in Hollywood buy the rights and just airing the british shows. ROFL.


I don't think the problem is paying for the rights to air the original.  I think it's just the difference between how TV shows are done in each country.

The US networks must have their ongoing shows of indefinite length.  There might be the stray mini-series event now and then, but most American networks do not want to run a single six- or twelve-episode series and end it there.
 
2013-02-10 11:43:34 AM  

Kyosuke: Dear NBC: If the first time I ever hear about a show is when the cancellation notices go out, then perhaps you should be cancelling PR dept contracts instead.


That's pretty goddamned funny.

I'd say your dead right as I only have over-the-air broadcast and the set is pretty much left on PBS or NBC for background noise and I had to go look this show up and ya know... I'm pretty glad I didn't hear about it. I have no farks to give over another medical drama... Especially when they're giving me a cancelled 30 Rock and Office... wtf who is in charge over there? Animal Practice, wtf was that? That goddamned Jimmy Fallon Guys with Kids atrocity... Dude, word to the wise NBC, fallon is a corporate shill and not someone to be carrying your network. And Whitney.... Whoever did that should be forced to murder the cast and crew of that show before being beaten to death with a pillow case full of unopened Whitney Season 1 DVDs.


I'd watch another channel but, let's be honest they all pretty suck just has hard when talking mere broadcast television.
 
2013-02-10 11:44:25 AM  
It was an update of Jekyl and Hyde?  Huh.  From what I picked up from the trailers was just another doctor drama and I was incredibly meh.


/like those before me I cannot thumbs up Jekyl enough.
 
2013-02-10 11:44:56 AM  

Waldo Pepper: I've never figured out how NBC passed on Monk and Psych as part of their lineup for the crap shows they have on.


network = crap
the awesome part of the cable revolution is that I have been able to completely stop watching network tv.

the last good thing that nbc had was .... L&O ? LOL
I used to like watching lie to me and house, md.

And knowing that any show that I like will be canceled, well, there is no point in even starting new shows.
 
2013-02-10 11:52:55 AM  

NeoCortex42: The US networks must have their ongoing shows of indefinite length.


Which is one of the best parts of "Utopia". I'm really enjoying it, and I know that it ends after six episodes. It's not going to keep relayering the mystery every few weeks in an attempt to keep me hooked. And it's also directed and shot like a film, and sometimes like a painting. It's incredible.
 
2013-02-10 12:04:06 PM  

t3knomanser: NeoCortex42: The US networks must have their ongoing shows of indefinite length.

Which is one of the best parts of "Utopia". I'm really enjoying it, and I know that it ends after six episodes. It's not going to keep relayering the mystery every few weeks in an attempt to keep me hooked. And it's also directed and shot like a film, and sometimes like a painting. It's incredible.


I hadn't heard of "Utopia" before.  It looks interesting.  Maybe I'll give it a shot since it's only six episodes.
 
2013-02-10 12:04:11 PM  

Waldo Pepper: I've never figured out how NBC passed on Monk and Psych as part of their lineup for the crap shows they have on.


They passed on Psych?

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Love Psych.

Didn't really watch Monk but someone liked it, it was on like 20 years (is it still on?).

And unlike most basic cable shows, there's no material in Psych that couldn't have been on NBC at 8:00 (unfortunately. Jules, would it kill you to get just a little naked?). Probably the same for Monk.

And they have a Hannibal series coming up. No, not the Punic Carthaginian, not the leader of the A-Team. The guy who wears other people's faces. That could have been an interesting premium cable show but we already have Dexter and it's wearing out its welcome.
 
2013-02-10 12:05:10 PM  

NeoCortex42: namatad: It is cute watching america trying to "copy" things that were successfully done in england. I guess there is no money in Hollywood buy the rights and just airing the british shows. ROFL.

I don't think the problem is paying for the rights to air the original.  I think it's just the difference between how TV shows are done in each country.

The US networks must have their ongoing shows of indefinite length.  There might be the stray mini-series event now and then, but most American networks do not want to run a single six- or twelve-episode series and end it there.


more
rather than 6 - 12 great episodes, they want a full "season" of 20ish. which leads to filler episodes written by a writers team, rather than the main episodes written by the show's creator. this religious adherence to a full season is what continues to produce so much crap.

hbo/sho/other cable went with the "short" or rational 12 episode season. and they got rid of most of the rubbish.
turns out some stories just dont have 20 hours of telling.

network is still stuck back in the days before cable, before people had other choices.
So we watched cheers, mash and seinfled. hell, we watched them in reruns!
My guess is another factor is that there are a "fixed" number of good writers. (number, ratio to population, whatever)
Back when there were only 3 networks, there were more than enough writers to go around.
Fox came around and hired all the HIP writers, taking away a few writers from the big 3.
BOOM - cable. And all of a sudden there was serious competition for writers. And shows could get greenlit and done PROPERLY on cable that wouldnt get off the table on network.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Showtime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programs_broadcast_by_HBO

A quick read throw these lists and I find some of my favorite shows of all time.
Science Fiction are probably the only shows not on these channels, and even then, stargate started on SHO.

My guess is that network will never recover.
The only reason that they still exist is that they were given the airwave bandwidth for free.
 
2013-02-10 12:08:27 PM  
What if this time, the main character was a doctor lawyer and psychic?
 
2013-02-10 12:10:19 PM  
To all those in this thread complaining about the networks shows quality listen up. The netwotks are not in the business of making tv shows. The networks exist to sell ad time. Companies want maximum numbers of eyes on those ads. So therefore we get what will draw the most viewers and little risk as possible. BBC doesn't have to be profitable so it can take bold risks. HBO,Showtime etc get profits from cable fees hence riskier shows.
 
2013-02-10 12:10:50 PM  
namatad:
why would you feel sorry for someone who makes such absurd choices?

Unless he got paid for the full season up front. LOLOL


It is kinda weird that you stopped reading in the middle of the sentence that answered your question.
 
2013-02-10 12:11:01 PM  

namatad: My guess is another factor is that there are a "fixed" number of good writers. (number, ratio to population, whatever)


I don't know much about TV but I know there are hundreds (okay, maybe dozens) of great movie scripts out there that will never get produced because hacks like Bob Orci (Transformers, The Island, Star Trek '09) get all the work.
 
2013-02-10 12:13:08 PM  
Is anyone watching The Americans on FX? I watched the first 2 episodes and Im enjoying it. I would imagine if you lived through the Cold War it would be even more interesting.

The old school spying techniques and information gathering are what have been most entertaining, unlike all the modern spy shows where everyone just internets things and taps cell phones like it's child's play. Like having to poison a maid's kid so she will cooperate and put a bugged clock in a guys office.

It is a bit cliche'd though, considering it went the "harhar FBI agent looking for Russian spys moves in across the street" angle.
 
2013-02-10 12:14:12 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: ..BBC doesn't have to be profitable so it can take bold risks...

That doesn't explain why non-BBC channels in the UK make some great dramas and mini-series as well(such as Utopia, Misfits and Black Mirror) other than the fact that with a competitor in the market that isn't trying to make terrible mass-market rubbish the rest of the networks have to at least try to step up and make something of quality.
Having watched Screenwipe(a great look at TV) I know for a fact that the UK makes a ton of junk TV as well, but their dramas are often just amazing compared to US stuff.
 
2013-02-10 12:14:30 PM  
Man, these networks are f'ing up real good. 30 year old white man here.  Don't watch a single show on CBS, NBC is done for me since 30 Rock and Community are done this year.  ABC's Modern Family is only watched because I have it on my DVR series list.  Fox I only watch the Sunday shows out of habit.  Tons of TV watching in my household and the networks comprise such a tiny portion of it.

I do watch a ton of basic cable shows on channels owned by the Networks.  Maybe move those shows to your primetime line-up?  Justified and The Americans could be on Fox with hardly any change in content.  Why bury them on basic cable?  Burn Notice and Royal Pains would kill on Friday nights on NBC.

Is three million grannies watching CIS:Albuquerque worth more to your advertisers than one million 18-35yo men watching whatever?
 
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