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2013-02-10 10:20:41 AM  
6 votes:
If NOTHING else, the cops should be fired and arrested for opening fire without warning on ANYONE.  Their desperation to kill Dorner only serves to convince people that hey, there might be something to Dorner's claims about the LAPD.

/Don't think Dorner is a hero or any bullshiat like that. The moment he decided to murder people, he became a bad guy too.
//LAPD needs a serious enema.
2013-02-10 02:23:14 AM  
6 votes:
F*ck the LAPD.  Those cops deserve to be kicked off the force, prosecuted, and imprisoned, and their supervisor(s) suspended for failing to maintain control of their men.

Instead, they'll just get a scowl and be put on someone's "shiat list" for all the paperwork they caused.
2013-02-10 01:06:08 AM  
6 votes:
I hate how the news always leaves it at "non life threatening" wounds. There are a lot of life changing wounds that don't threaten your life.
2013-02-10 04:34:47 AM  
5 votes:
The cops don't buy the truck, the taxpayers do.

Also the cops should be dead before they shoot at the wrong person. Serve and protect. Lighting up the wrong truck is neither.

The guy who's killing people is evil. That doesn't make the LAPD good by default.
2013-02-10 10:35:10 AM  
4 votes:
Last week, a school bus driver died to protect children on his bus.

Two months ago, 6 teachers died to protect the children in an elementary school.

We are constantly getting casualty reports from Afghanistan.  Not too long ago, from Iraq.

Why?  Because these people all understood that it was their job to get in front of bullets to protect their charges.

Now, the LAPD is freaked because someone might want to kill them.  So they shoot up two trucks because someone thinks they might be hiding the "bad guy".

What a bunch of cowards.
2013-02-10 10:33:10 AM  
4 votes:

snocone: 60 rounds?!?!
We really have to train those shootists. How many rounds did not even find the vehicle?
Maybe give them ASSAULT WEAPONS so they can get 1 shot/ one kill like Piers Anthony.
He can kill 60 Americans in one minute with an AR15, so he says, loudly, repeatedly, confidently, on his farkin' TV shill fest.

/Bonnie/Clyde assassans were at least good shots


You mean Piers Morgan, Piers Anthony is the sci-fi writer.
2013-02-10 08:49:21 AM  
4 votes:
If anything the women at least should be happy that the LAPD are such terrible shots that seven cops firing sixty rounds could not kill them. When I saw the movie "The Gauntlet" I thought "No way Clint Eastwood and Sandra Locke survive a hail of bullets being fired into their bus by cops!" Now I guess that movie was right. It's like watching Stormtroopers trying to shot straight.
2013-02-10 01:20:00 AM  
4 votes:
Amazing that the cops mistook a 41yo white woman and a 71 yo white woman for a large black man...and then opened fire without any warning.


The two women now say they had no warning before they were caught in a hail of bullets by officers, and it is remarkable that they survived.
2013-02-10 01:18:20 AM  
4 votes:
Yeah ... they're gonna get sued for every penny they have.

And rightfully.

And they'll whine and pull a persecution complex every step of the way, the f*ckers.
2013-02-10 11:16:21 AM  
3 votes:
I think one of the biggest difference with the USA and the rest of the Western world isn't the religiosity or the guns or political circus or the lack of social safety nets, but the nature of the police.

No-one in the UK or France or Australia or Germany or Canada or New Zealand would think twice about going up to a policeman and asking for directions or just a chat. The police in the US just seem to be wired and scary and angry.
2013-02-10 11:06:50 AM  
3 votes:

Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Christopher Dorner, a pro gun control, piers morgan/obama fan

Is there a citation for this or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?


It was in his manifesto.  Read the the unedited version, not the heavily-edited one the MSM published.
2013-02-10 10:33:38 AM  
3 votes:
As much as it looks like he's guilty, legally he's innocent until proven guilty in court. Yet the LAPD is making no effort whatsoever to apprehend him. They opened fire on the truck without saying a word. Their goal is to murder him.
2013-02-10 10:13:33 AM  
3 votes:

MFAWG: beta_plus: Thank god we have public sector unions to prevent horrible things like this from happening and to ensure those trigger happy cops get justice.

/liberals need to stop preaching a culture of hate

Oh, 9 out of 10! Missing Obamacare and random caps, but top notch!


And yet he's right. If we didn't have corrupt unions protecting corrupt cops they'd be out of jobs and we'd be far safer.
2013-02-10 02:08:19 PM  
2 votes:
I wonder if the LAPD are focusing so many resources on catching/assassinating Dorner or Hispanic ladies delivering LA Times newspapers, that other criminal matters are being ignored. I bet criminals in LA must feel it's open season to do whatever because their chances are better now that they will get away with the crime. It would be interesting to see the police response times to 911 calls before and after Dorner started killing people.
2013-02-10 12:14:24 PM  
2 votes:

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Mrtraveler01: Bontesla: Mrtraveler01: Bontesla: EdNortonsTwin: He's also a fanboy of George H Bush, and Joe Scarborough according to his manifesto.  Not so sure his politics have all that much to do with his Captain Ahab persona.

I feel like his political affiliation is probably the least relevant part of the story.

I agree, but that doesn't stop a few nutjobs from trying to make this a political thing and get all whiny when they get called out on their BS.

Now to the topic at hand...what kind of truck are they getting?

The kind that comes with liability waiver? No personal responsibility from the LAPD.

Do you also find the entire story kind of odd?

A little.

I miss the LA when it was just car chases on tv everyday.

Ah, yes. The news chopper giving us the blow-by-blow of the chase from the air live from KABC-7 News' Eye in the Sky! . So important they'd interrupt regularly scheduled programming so you could watch it. Everyone knows Los Angelenos just LOVE to see car chases. Especially OJ's. Still kinda ticked they didn't just tap the back of the Bronco and spin it. I was watching something when they broke in with that stupid chase, dammit!

/Betting on how long the chase would last was a neighborhood sport of sorts.
//Might as well make the best of it and maybe a buck or two.


Why, in an area that biatches about traffic so much, is there an abundance of people thinking they could successfully drive away from the police?
2013-02-10 12:10:29 PM  
2 votes:

Mrtraveler01: Funny you left out this part:

Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me,fark you. I didn't vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn't win the primary candidacy for his party.

http://documents.latimes.com/christopher-dorner-manifesto/


You don't seem to understand - it's the barrel of sewage theory of political identification.  Just like one drop of sewage in a barrel of wine turns the whole barrel into sewage, but one drop of wine in a barrel of sewage still leaves it a barrel of sewage, one non-conservative view makes you a liberal, no matter how many conservative views you hold.

Conservatives can get away with this order of preference:
1) Vote Republican
2) Vote Libertarian
3) Refuse to vote, be angry no matter the outcome, but despair if the Democrat wins

If your preference is:
1) Vote Republican
2) Vote Libertarian
3) Refuse to vote, but be happy the Democrat won  <=========== RED FLAG  (And by "Red" we mean all meanings of it)

You're a commie pinko liberal.
2013-02-10 11:49:16 AM  
2 votes:

EdNortonsTwin: He's also a fanboy of George H Bush, and Joe Scarborough according to his manifesto.  Not so sure his politics have all that much to do with his Captain Ahab persona.


I feel like his political affiliation is probably the least relevant part of the story.
2013-02-10 11:26:18 AM  
2 votes:

namegoeshere: No they won't. Do you think any of the officers involved will pay a penny of their own money for this? Their legal costs and any settlements will be paid by the department, ie the taxpayers.


The first, practical change we can make to stop corruption is to make police officers and prosecutors personally liable for acts that are grossly negligent or worse.
2013-02-10 11:17:01 AM  
2 votes:

Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Christopher Dorner, a pro gun control, piers morgan/obama fan

Is there a citation for this or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?

It's in Christopher Dorner's "manifesto".  Maybe you should do a shred of research before acting like a jack ass.

Care to cite it for me?


Not that it matters, but those things are, in fact, in his manifesto, more or less.

If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don't give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses.
neighbor marries. Hypocritical pieces of shiat.


...
 On the same day, give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws but you must understand that your critics will always have in the back of their mind that you are native to a country that we won our sovereignty from while using firearms as a last resort in defense and you come from a country that has no legal private ownership of firearms. That is disheartening to American gun owners and rightfully so.
2013-02-10 11:05:33 AM  
2 votes:

Glancing Blow: This will also become a federal civil rights case where their extremely shaky, if not nonexistent,  qualified immunity will not prevent them from jail time.


Bets?  An "independent investigation" will show that the officers acted with "justifiable reactions to a stressful situation" and recommend that they "be returned to active duty without delay, and reimbursed for any missed pay during their time off".  The district attorney will also be filing charges against the two victims for assaulting police officers by throwing newspapers at them.
2013-02-10 11:04:41 AM  
2 votes:

Lost Thought 00: By accepting the truck, they will be waiving their right to sue the department for any further damages, with the courts saying that the truck is sufficient compensation


The women have a lawyer.  Unless this lawyer is like Quan and purposefully sandbagging cases to protect LAPD, no way he'll let them accept the truck.
2013-02-10 10:58:45 AM  
2 votes:
By accepting the truck, they will be waiving their right to sue the department for any further damages, with the courts saying that the truck is sufficient compensation
2013-02-10 10:44:24 AM  
2 votes:

namegoeshere: As much as it looks like he's guilty, legally he's innocent until proven guilty in court. Yet the LAPD is making no effort whatsoever to apprehend him. They opened fire on the truck without saying a word. Their goal is to murder him.


Yep. If Dorner's smart, he's left the state while he's got them thinking he's hiding in the mountains or something. The LAPD's actions are just proving his points, and as they continue to flip the fark out, more and more people outside LA take notice. Hopefully, this results in some serious investigations and crackdowns on the LAPD's corruption, and hopefully *that* results in other corrupt PDs cleaning up their act.

/Yes, I know that's about as likely as snow on the surface of the sun.
//Yes, I think Dorner needs to be arrested and tried, and, if found guilty, locked up for the rest of his life.
/// No, I don't think he'll get a fair trial even if he IS arrested and not murdered. Especially not in LA.
2013-02-10 10:29:13 AM  
2 votes:
The officers who shot the mother and daughter have been put on paid administrative leave.


From here.

http://gawker.com/5983076/seven-days-later-the-killer-ex+cop-is-stil l- on-the-loose
2013-02-10 10:23:48 AM  
2 votes:

PacManDreaming: Actual video of the LAPD shooting at the truck. These guys are scary.


As a former resident of SoCal and someone who had plenty of contact with LAPD because of the neighborhood she lived in, I can only say "no shiat, coulda told you that without them shooting at anyone".

/hint for the LAPD - if you see a white chick walking in a shifty, "primarily successful and attractive" neighborhood, she may be poor and walking home rather than buying drugs or "working the streets"
2013-02-10 10:21:27 AM  
2 votes:
Why is it that whenever cops Fark up bad they play it off like "it was a stressful situation" or " they were under a lot of pressure" bur if I ran a stop sign or was caught speeding a little and tried to say the same thing they would say "tuff shiat"

It just seems like every time they screw up they just say "were stressed" and thats good enough.
2013-02-10 10:21:18 AM  
2 votes:
BumpInTheNight:
These women are very lucky and they owe that to the incompetence of the 7 officers shooting at them.

Unfortunately, they also owe their being shot at in the first place to that same incompetence...
2013-02-10 10:20:48 AM  
2 votes:
No, fark you LAPD.  The Los Angeles tax payers would be paying for that truck, how about, instead, you put handcuffs on those 7 pigs and keep them in jail without bond until they can be brought up on Assault with Deadly Weapon and Attempted Homicide charges?
2013-02-10 08:55:01 AM  
2 votes:
I am surprised the LAPD isn't trying to blame them.  If they didn't have so much shiat on their hand with Dorner I am sure they would be trying plant a gun.
2013-02-10 07:52:05 AM  
2 votes:
"I do this not to appease a murderer. I do it to reassure the public that their police department is transparent and fair in all the things we do," the chief said in a statement.

latimesblogs.latimes.com

Looks pretty transparent to me.
2013-02-10 04:43:15 PM  
1 votes:
I read the manifesto of the guy that the cops are hunting, and his main point was that the LAPD was corrupt and had no respect for civilian lives.

I don't think the LAPD could have done a better job of proving his point than this.
2013-02-10 04:21:32 PM  
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Arn_Dee: Raharu: The officers who shot the mother and daughter have been put on paid administrative leave.


From here.
http://gawker.com/5983076/seven-days-later-the-killer-ex+cop-is-stil l- on-the-loose

PAID LEAVE? FOR FARKING SHOOTING INNOCENT FARKING PEOPLE?

It's therapy, not punishment.  Those officers are traumatized every time they pull a trigger.

Also, punishment is supposed to come after a trial and conviction in a court of law, not just on Fark.


Then don't pull the farking trigger on something unless you know what you're shooting at.  Basic farking gun safety.
2013-02-10 04:17:45 PM  
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: JWideman: Phinn: The LAPD is so generous (with taxpayer money), they should probably rename their organization to something more appropriate.

Like the "Ministry of Love."

Anyway, one of the loose ends in this sordid tale is that the LAPD still has Teresa "Chupacabra" Evans to deal with.  They can't find her retroactively guilty and fire her, because that would validate the actions of the crazy-man Dorners.  And they can't keep her around on patrol while she continues to kick people in the chest, crack skulls and flay the skin off of people.

So, really, the only two options for the LAPD at this point are to either kill her (like she's some kind of Asian newspaper thrower or something), or promote her.  She'll probably end up with a desk job with a fat pension where she can't sadistically torture citizens quite as frequently as she does these days.

Or they could just do to her what they do to the few good cops that report the bad cops: send her on violent crime in progress calls and when she calls for backup, nobody is available.

Promote her to captain; that will  get her off the streets.


handcuffs and prison would work much better.
2013-02-10 03:43:41 PM  
1 votes:
And people wonder why normal citizens want to keep their guns?  Apparently cops don't like a fair fight.
2013-02-10 02:55:43 PM  
1 votes:
If someone is actually attempting to kill you out of nowhere, odds are that, even if you ARE carrying, you'll be dead before you can draw unless you're a professional quickdraw shooter. And that's assuming there's only one shooter.

Ummmmm....
I AM a professional quick-draw shooter... and if I were shot at by surprise from behind, by 7 cops, I doubt I'd have a chance to take more than one out before getting hit myself.

And yes, professional quick-draw shooters exist.  We shoot at targets.

What surprises me is the incompetence of these so-called "professional" shooters... that many shots at close range and no kill? Come on.... I could empty a clip, reload and empty another at that range and get much better grouping.... Left-handed.
On the other hand, these are the guys who thought a small, skinny Mexican woman looked like a large, heavily built, bald, African-American man....
Come on guys, if you can't tell for sure, you've got no business using deadly force...

L.A.P.D. - the organization who couldn't frame a guilty man. (Remember O.J.)
2013-02-10 02:31:30 PM  
1 votes:
I'm sure somehow this will get turned around on Chris in the media.. even though it is the exact moronic, unlawful behavior he is trying to expose.
2013-02-10 02:12:09 PM  
1 votes:

Forbidden Doughnut: DS1970: If this isn't an argument for citizens arming themselves, I don't know what is.

Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.

I mean, WTF?!  The truck "looked like" the one they were chasing?!  "Looked like"?!  So two innocent civilians are now shooting victims - to the very badge sworn to protect them.  If cops could shoot worth sh*t, the women would be dead.

Notice this side story of the manhunt has *poof* - disappeared from media reporting.  In was an unthing.

not really a gun person myself, but THIS.

/ bolded for truth


If someone is actually attempting to kill you out of nowhere, odds are that, even if you ARE carrying, you'll be dead before you can draw unless you're a professional quickdraw shooter. And that's assuming there's only one shooter.

In a mass-shooting situation, arming civilians is also just going to cause more trouble when people are caught in the crossfire, or, if enough people are armed, others suspect YOU of being the shooter.

Again, the solution to this isn't MOAR GUNS!111! It's to try and make sure that the actual situation doesn't farking happen, whether that requires stronger mental healthcare, tighter restrictions on gun sales (I, for one, am not calling for any sort of *ban*, just more widespread background checks and harsher punishments to those who don't provide them), or a crackdown on police corruption.
2013-02-10 02:09:30 PM  
1 votes:
I hope those Women who were shot file a Federal Lawsuit agaist those Trigger happy Officers and the Police Department.  Will they never learn? It seems like they would have learned after they had to pay out so much Money after the Rodney King Incident. I guess it is time for another Lesson.

Althougth I do not condone Mr. Dorner's Actions, it seems he finally reached his breaking Point. We all have one.
2013-02-10 02:07:43 PM  
1 votes:

orclover: neongoats: The "innocent family members" he has allegedly killed are cops. And was heavily reported that way initially, until they LAPD pr machine started referring to their other side professions and hiding their cop-ness.

Its kind of funny how that fact has been completely glossed over durring the evolution of this story.  You have to be paying attention and check a few sources but you can find it if you dig around enough.  Both the daughter and the fiance, both cops.  This wasn't some teenage heartthrob and her quarterback boyfriend.

The propaganda machine has been running on overtime throughout ALL of this and it has been amazing to watch.  I honestly cant tell the difference between the paid opinion swayers posting here and the usual trolling.


Yep, we'll, there are a subset of farkers that will literally go into any thread about cops indiscriminately slaughtering citizens and spend hours and hours slobbing cop knob and bending over backwards defending the thin blue line.

This is the result of a highly ethical individual breaking against the corruption of modern cop culture, snapping and deciding that the only thing left to do is put the LAPD down like a diseased, rabid animal. Is he arrogant, perhaps megalomaniacal? Perhaps. But he is also an honorably discharged American Hero, whose service earned him extremely high security clearance. They tend to select ppl carefully for that kind of clearance. Just sayin.

Sadly, the LAPD is only proving how correct he is.
2013-02-10 01:54:43 PM  
1 votes:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Christopher Dorner, a pro gun control, piers morgan/obama fan

Is there a citation for this or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?

It's in Christopher Dorner's "manifesto".  Maybe you should do a shred of research before acting like a jack ass.


He also said he didn't vote because Huntsman didn't win the Republican Primary.

So you're being either deliberately obtuse or you're incapable of finding the unedited manifesto, either way it doesn't do much to suggest you're capable of logical thought.
2013-02-10 01:54:31 PM  
1 votes:

pyrotek85: Girion47: Girion47: pyrotek85: Girion47: I'm curious if the women fired back, how would they be viewed?  Probably as cop killers, and be charged with something.  Even if they were returning fire against a hostile force that initially assaulted them.

BraveNewCheneyWorld: DS1970: Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.

If cops shoot you thinking you're someone else, and you do manage to shoot them in self defense, you're getting executed anyway, which is nice.

Yeah you're pretty much screwed if you fire back. Same deal if they do a swat raid on the wrong house.

which is why no-knock warrants shouldn't be illegal, it puts everyone involved in a dangerously volatile situation.

FTFM

I've never understood the benefit of them. Unless it's an actual hostage situation, why not just pick the guy up when he leaves his house to get the mail or something? I don't even know how they end up hitting the wrong house at all, don't they do surveillance beforehand and watch for any patterns or number of occupants? Do they just do it spur of the moment?


I don't know, but this article really bothers me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/jose-guerena-arizona-_n_867 02 0.html
2013-02-10 01:53:18 PM  
1 votes:
It's funny (in a not-funny-actually-pretty-sick sort of way) that the second incident  occurred when officers freaked out at the cry of "shots fired" and shot the hell out of the random pickup that had to be passing because it might maybe be trying to kill them, when the only shots fired was the LAPD trying to kill two unarmed and not dangerous women who were not committing any sort of crime.  And then they call it a justified shooting:

 In a statement to The Times, the department said: "The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances - and these were far from normal circumstances - to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk.
"In the split seconds available to them," the statement continued, "action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle."


It's like Yakety Sax should be playing continuously wherever LAPD officers are present.
2013-02-10 01:52:35 PM  
1 votes:

StokeyBob: Police seeking Dorner opened fire in a second case of mistaken identity


FTA
"The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances - and these were far from normal circumstances - to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk.

They used the "It's coming right at me" defense.

That statement was just sad.
2013-02-10 01:48:29 PM  
1 votes:

Girion47: Girion47: pyrotek85: Girion47: I'm curious if the women fired back, how would they be viewed?  Probably as cop killers, and be charged with something.  Even if they were returning fire against a hostile force that initially assaulted them.

BraveNewCheneyWorld: DS1970: Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.

If cops shoot you thinking you're someone else, and you do manage to shoot them in self defense, you're getting executed anyway, which is nice.

Yeah you're pretty much screwed if you fire back. Same deal if they do a swat raid on the wrong house.

which is why no-knock warrants shouldn't be illegal, it puts everyone involved in a dangerously volatile situation.

FTFM


I've never understood the benefit of them. Unless it's an actual hostage situation, why not just pick the guy up when he leaves his house to get the mail or something? I don't even know how they end up hitting the wrong house at all, don't they do surveillance beforehand and watch for any patterns or number of occupants? Do they just do it spur of the moment?
2013-02-10 01:48:06 PM  
1 votes:

Girion47: I'm curious if the women fired back, how would they be viewed?


They'd be viewed at a closed casket funeral
2013-02-10 01:46:45 PM  
1 votes:

DS1970: If this isn't an argument for citizens arming themselves, I don't know what is.

Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.

I mean, WTF?!  The truck "looked like" the one they were chasing?!  "Looked like"?!  So two innocent civilians are now shooting victims - to the very badge sworn to protect them.  If cops could shoot worth sh*t, the women would be dead.

Notice this side story of the manhunt has *poof* - disappeared from media reporting.  In was an unthing.


Newsflash, sparky. The cops are, more likely than not, going to be better trained and better prepared than a random civilian, even if their actual armaments are comparable. Not to mention that, if you kill one cop in 'self-defense', you're going to be facing down the business end of a SWAT team before long.

The answer to this isn't to make the citizenry more heavily armed. It's to stop letting police be above the law.
2013-02-10 01:44:42 PM  
1 votes:

Neeps: If Dorner were only killing cops, and not innocent family members too, I'd be wishing him well.

fark the police.

I got a "non-life-threatening" injury when they broke down the wrong door in my apartment complex a few years back.
Yeah, it didn't kill me. It's just given me pain that will never go away and rendered my chosen career impossible.

Anyone who still thinks cops are the good guys is either incredibly naive of completely insane.




The "innocent family members" he has allegedly killed are cops. And was heavily reported that way initially, until they LAPD pr machine started referring to their other side professions and hiding their cop-ness.
2013-02-10 01:42:42 PM  
1 votes:
I'm curious about something....
From what I gather(which may not be correct), the cops blocked off the vehicle, with no lights flashing, in early dawn hours(which might make it difficult to see who's blocking your vehicle) and opened fire.
What might have happened if the persons in question thought they were being carjacked/robbed by persons unknown and shot back?
2013-02-10 01:42:18 PM  
1 votes:

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Not in California. If you are doing the speed limit and it's raining, you can be ticketed for driving that fast in "unsafe conditions". You can also be ticketed for "creating unsafe driving conditions" if you're going below the speed limit. You can fight it, of course, but if the cop shows up in traffic court, you'll probably lose, citizen. Whether or not you get stopped if you are not doing anything wrong is sometimes merely a question of "how bored is the cop?".


I believe that is true all over.

Here if you get into an accident, no matter who is at fault, all of the drivers involved get a ticket for the accident, and one for driving to fast for conditions, no matter what the conditions are. The saddest example of this was when one of my friends was rear ended. He was stopped in the left turn lane waiting to make a left turn. I guess this lady was trying to get into the turn lane and somehow hit him on the passenger side of his car in the rear. When the police came he gave them both a ticket for the accident, and gave them both a ticket for driving too fast for conditions. Yes, he gave my friend a ticket for driving too fast for conditions despite the fact that he wasn't moving, never mind the fact that it was midday and dry.

But back to these cops. Shouldn't there be video of this shooting? Don't these cars have dashboard cams that start up when the cars are put into park or the door opens? Or did they disable those in the cars of the cops that were put on assassin duty?
2013-02-10 01:41:52 PM  
1 votes:

Girion47: pyrotek85: Girion47: I'm curious if the women fired back, how would they be viewed?  Probably as cop killers, and be charged with something.  Even if they were returning fire against a hostile force that initially assaulted them.

BraveNewCheneyWorld: DS1970: Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.

If cops shoot you thinking you're someone else, and you do manage to shoot them in self defense, you're getting executed anyway, which is nice.

Yeah you're pretty much screwed if you fire back. Same deal if they do a swat raid on the wrong house.

which is why no-knock warrants shouldn't be illegal, it puts everyone involved in a dangerously volatile situation.


FTFM
2013-02-10 01:38:58 PM  
1 votes:
The lawsuit needs to be big.  Very big.  Ultimately it's the taxpayer that is liable, so the cost needs to be high enough that even when it's split amongst all the citizens of LA it still stings a bit personally.  Make people get off their lazy ass and demand accountability from their public servants.  Or make police get malpractice insurance, LOL.
2013-02-10 01:38:43 PM  
1 votes:

Girion47: I'm curious if the women fired back, how would they be viewed?  Probably as cop killers, and be charged with something.  Even if they were returning fire against a hostile force that initially assaulted them.


BraveNewCheneyWorld: DS1970: Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.

If cops shoot you thinking you're someone else, and you do manage to shoot them in self defense, you're getting executed anyway, which is nice.


Yeah you're pretty much screwed if you fire back. Same deal if they do a swat raid on the wrong house.
2013-02-10 01:37:23 PM  
1 votes:
If Dorner were only killing cops, and not innocent family members too, I'd be wishing him well.

fark the police.

I got a "non-life-threatening" injury when they broke down the wrong door in my apartment complex a few years back.
Yeah, it didn't kill me. It's just given me pain that will never go away and rendered my chosen career impossible.

Anyone who still thinks cops are the good guys is either incredibly naive of completely insane.
2013-02-10 01:36:31 PM  
1 votes:

ShawnDoc: Just in this one thread, I've seen the women identified as white, Hispanic, and Asian. Which is it?


I'm guessing Hispanic due to the names, but I'm pretty sure I've seen all three descriptions in news reports myself (probably corrected at this point).
2013-02-10 01:36:25 PM  
1 votes:

DS1970: Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.


If cops shoot you thinking you're someone else, and you do manage to shoot them in self defense, you're getting executed anyway, which is nice.
2013-02-10 01:35:49 PM  
1 votes:
I'm curious if the women fired back, how would they be viewed?  Probably as cop killers, and be charged with something.  Even if they were returning fire against a hostile force that initially assaulted them.
2013-02-10 01:32:57 PM  
1 votes:
At this point they are just blowing away any pickup truck, it seems. You know, even ones calmly driving towards them by white old guys.

This is inspiring me to pull out the ice-t cd's and fire up some classic Dre.
2013-02-10 01:32:26 PM  
1 votes:
If this isn't an argument for citizens arming themselves, I don't know what is.

Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.

I mean, WTF?!  The truck "looked like" the one they were chasing?!  "Looked like"?!  So two innocent civilians are now shooting victims - to the very badge sworn to protect them.  If cops could shoot worth sh*t, the women would be dead.

Notice this side story of the manhunt has *poof* - disappeared from media reporting.  In was an unthing.
2013-02-10 01:27:57 PM  
1 votes:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: StokeyBob: Police seeking Dorner opened fire in a second case of mistaken identity

They don't even have plausible deniability anymore.  They're openly trying to murder him.


Yep. At this point, Dorner could walk into the station, unarmed, to turn himself in, and he'd still get gunned down. And the officer(s) who did it would get a slap on the wrist at best.
2013-02-10 01:26:04 PM  
1 votes:

StokeyBob: Police seeking Dorner opened fire in a second case of mistaken identity


They don't even have plausible deniability anymore.  They're openly trying to murder him.
2013-02-10 01:21:22 PM  
1 votes:

orclover: ExperianScaresCthulhu: ausfahrk: Real Women Drink Akvavit: You can fight it, of course, but if the cop shows up in traffic court, you'll probably lose, citizen.

Heck, the cop would probably just pistol-whip you to death in the courtroom for interrupting his hookers and blow time, while his buddies fired random shots to hold back the crowd, sounds like...


Pretty much.  Just another day in LA the USA.  LAPD, scumbags all.

Americans in general have no idea how corrrupt their law enforcement has gotten.  If they are not being bothered directly then they assume everything is fine and under control.  They even have a mental filter to remove the dirty images that may happen in front of them day to day.  I would put APD up there as just as corrupt as LAPD after witnessing them in action for over 30 years (got real bad after a lot LAPD came to austin and got management positions).  We simply have less cops than LAPD so less incidents.  Frankly APD scares the fark out of me after all I have witnessed.  I honestly wouldnt mind California as a place to live if not for all the corruption of LAPD.

I just want a small place in a small town with a very very small police force that knows everybody.  Never happen.


The mere fact that a cop can get away with almost anything with nothing more than "paid administrative leave" ('Being dragged out of the spotlight until people stop looking') has corrupted police. Power corrupts, and corruption without consequences just breeds MORE corruption.
2013-02-10 01:10:49 PM  
1 votes:

ExperianScaresCthulhu: ausfahrk: Real Women Drink Akvavit: You can fight it, of course, but if the cop shows up in traffic court, you'll probably lose, citizen.

Heck, the cop would probably just pistol-whip you to death in the courtroom for interrupting his hookers and blow time, while his buddies fired random shots to hold back the crowd, sounds like...


Pretty much.  Just another day in LA the USA.  LAPD, scumbags all.


Americans in general have no idea how corrrupt their law enforcement has gotten.  If they are not being bothered directly then they assume everything is fine and under control.  They even have a mental filter to remove the dirty images that may happen in front of them day to day.  I would put APD up there as just as corrupt as LAPD after witnessing them in action for over 30 years (got real bad after a lot LAPD came to austin and got management positions).  We simply have less cops than LAPD so less incidents.  Frankly APD scares the fark out of me after all I have witnessed.  I honestly wouldnt mind California as a place to live if not for all the corruption of LAPD.

I just want a small place in a small town with a very very small police force that knows everybody.  Never happen.
2013-02-10 12:54:27 PM  
1 votes:
This doesn't show that the cops are tense and stressed out from one of their own, it just expands the known knowledge that many on the force are grossly incompetent, abuse their power over the public they're meant to serve and perfect (ironically serving their own interests and putting the public in harm's way).

If the LAPD wants to fix all this PR damage, they'll find Dorner without killing him (good luck on that one), bring him to rightful justice, get rid of any and all on the force found out to be abusing their badge (i don't over in the states, but i know that will never happen, ESPECIALLY considering it's the LAPD)

/maybe I'm one of the many living in a fantasy world for thinking cops should be held accountable for any and all wrongdoings
//police brutality is the very rare case I'm willing to go eye for an eye
///I must be blind
2013-02-10 12:49:37 PM  
1 votes:

snocone: Sending these local yokels after Dorner is really STUPID in the most perfect sense.

Any "real" police force would issue locate, do not approach orders.


SAT analogy time: "LAPD:Emma Hernandez and Margie Carranza::George Zimmerman:Trayvon Martin"

/Tunnel Vision,anyone?
2013-02-10 12:46:59 PM  
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: Brubold: MFAWG: beta_plus: Thank god we have public sector unions to prevent horrible things like this from happening and to ensure those trigger happy cops get justice.

/liberals need to stop preaching a culture of hate

Oh, 9 out of 10! Missing Obamacare and random caps, but top notch!

And yet he's right. If we didn't have corrupt unions protecting corrupt cops they'd be out of jobs and we'd be far safer.

LAPD is corrupt enough without the help of unions.

/nice try


And Skeletor was evil enough without adding in MechaNeck, yet He-Man still had to deal with both.
2013-02-10 12:38:01 PM  
1 votes:

Day_Old_Dutchie: chapman: namegoeshere: No they won't. Do you think any of the officers involved will pay a penny of their own money for this? Their legal costs and any settlements will be paid by the department, ie the taxpayers.

The first, practical change we can make to stop corruption is to make police officers and prosecutors personally liable for acts that are grossly negligent or worse.

It'll never happen. There are too many goddamn empty-headed sheep out their that think cops should be trusted 100% and they should never be held liable when they screw up because "they put their life on the line every day".


So do newspaper deliverywomen, apparently.
2013-02-10 12:38:01 PM  
1 votes:

Bungles: I think one of the biggest difference with the USA and the rest of the Western world isn't the religiosity or the guns or political circus or the lack of social safety nets, but the nature of the police.

No-one in the UK or France or Australia or Germany or Canada or New Zealand would think twice about going up to a policeman and asking for directions or just a chat. The police in the US just seem to be wired and scary and angry.



It wasn't always like that. I remember small-town police being pretty laid back when I was a kid (1970's). The militarization of law enforcement really began in the 80's.

I blame Daryl Gates for starting that trend.....
2013-02-10 12:35:53 PM  
1 votes:

chapman: namegoeshere: No they won't. Do you think any of the officers involved will pay a penny of their own money for this? Their legal costs and any settlements will be paid by the department, ie the taxpayers.

The first, practical change we can make to stop corruption is to make police officers and prosecutors personally liable for acts that are grossly negligent or worse.


It'll never happen. There are too many goddamn empty-headed sheep out their that think cops should be trusted 100% and they should never be held liable when they screw up because "they put their life on the line every day".
2013-02-10 12:33:14 PM  
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: Don't expect him to come back. He got awfully quiet when I pointed this out to him earlier.


Ah, the lies you tell yourself.  You were supposed to realize that between your quote and mine, he doesn't vote for people who he thinks won't win as many "non vote wasters" do.  You just couldn't make the 1 step connection.  Considering the fact that you insisted that I do your gis for very basic info, I can tell that you're not especially interested in the truth though.
2013-02-10 12:31:13 PM  
1 votes:

Raharu: The officers who shot the mother and daughter have been put on paid administrative leave.


From here.
http://gawker.com/5983076/seven-days-later-the-killer-ex+cop-is-stil l- on-the-loose


PAID LEAVE? FOR FARKING SHOOTING INNOCENT FARKING PEOPLE?
2013-02-10 12:29:09 PM  
1 votes:

Phinn: The LAPD is so generous (with taxpayer money), they should probably rename their organization to something more appropriate.

Like the "Ministry of Love."

Anyway, one of the loose ends in this sordid tale is that the LAPD still has Teresa "Chupacabra" Evans to deal with.  They can't find her retroactively guilty and fire her, because that would validate the actions of the crazy-man Dorners.  And they can't keep her around on patrol while she continues to kick people in the chest, crack skulls and flay the skin off of people.

So, really, the only two options for the LAPD at this point are to either kill her (like she's some kind of Asian newspaper thrower or something), or promote her.  She'll probably end up with a desk job with a fat pension where she can't sadistically torture citizens quite as frequently as she does these days.


Or they could just do to her what they do to the few good cops that report the bad cops: send her on violent crime in progress calls and when she calls for backup, nobody is available.
2013-02-10 12:25:37 PM  
1 votes:

Girion47: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Mrtraveler01: Bontesla: Mrtraveler01: Bontesla: EdNortonsTwin: He's also a fanboy of George H Bush, and Joe Scarborough according to his manifesto.  Not so sure his politics have all that much to do with his Captain Ahab persona.

I feel like his political affiliation is probably the least relevant part of the story.

I agree, but that doesn't stop a few nutjobs from trying to make this a political thing and get all whiny when they get called out on their BS.

Now to the topic at hand...what kind of truck are they getting?

The kind that comes with liability waiver? No personal responsibility from the LAPD.

Do you also find the entire story kind of odd?

A little.

I miss the LA when it was just car chases on tv everyday.

Ah, yes. The news chopper giving us the blow-by-blow of the chase from the air live from KABC-7 News' Eye in the Sky! . So important they'd interrupt regularly scheduled programming so you could watch it. Everyone knows Los Angelenos just LOVE to see car chases. Especially OJ's. Still kinda ticked they didn't just tap the back of the Bronco and spin it. I was watching something when they broke in with that stupid chase, dammit!

/Betting on how long the chase would last was a neighborhood sport of sorts.
//Might as well make the best of it and maybe a buck or two.

Why, in an area that biatches about traffic so much, is there an abundance of people thinking they could successfully drive away from the police?


I'm of the opinion that either alcohol/drugs were involved or they want those news choppers there as witnesses when the cops go apeshiat on them when they do finally stop (or crash). Probably both.
2013-02-10 12:24:21 PM  
1 votes:

Bungles: I think one of the biggest difference with the USA and the rest of the Western world isn't the religiosity or the guns or political circus or the lack of social safety nets, but the nature of the police.

No-one in the UK or France or Australia or Germany or Canada or New Zealand would think twice about going up to a policeman and asking for directions or just a chat. The police in the US just seem to be wired and scary and angry.


Sadly, this is very true... when I was in London I asked one of the cops where such and such was, and he actually walked with me about a block to show me. Being from the US I initially thought this was to lure me into a merciless beatdown, but it turns out he was just being helpful.

Cops here are complete sh*tbags. I hope Dorner is keeping his firearms well maintained while on the run.
2013-02-10 12:17:07 PM  
1 votes:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: LordJiro: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Christopher Dorner, a pro gun control, piers morgan/obama fan

Is there a citation for this or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?

It's in Christopher Dorner's "manifesto".  Maybe you should do a shred of research before acting like a jack ass.

You mean the one that said he wanted Huntsman, and didn't vote for Obama? That manifesto?

FTFManifesto
Mr. President, I haven't agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven't agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you've done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn't think you were going to pull that one off.

Funny you left out this part:

Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me,fark you. I didn't vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn't win the primary candidacy for his party.

http://documents.latimes.com/christopher-dorner-manifesto/

Let's take a guess why..

Any other stupid tangents you'd like to try in an effort to avoid the inconvenient truths?  He's a super liberal anti gun nut.. on a shooting rampage.

/Oh, and congratulations on regaining your selective googling skills.


So "Being proud of America for overcoming racism enough to elect a black man as President' = 'Being a super-liberal anti-gun nut',. Despite him explicitly saying he didn't vote in the general after the GOP didn't pick Huntsman.

Oh, and even if he DID vote Obama, Obama is a centrist at best. He just looks liberal compared to the raging fascist extremists in the GOP.
2013-02-10 12:16:30 PM  
1 votes:
2013-02-10 11:56:54 AM  
1 votes:
I wonder who will pay the taxes owed on this truck.

Oh, wow... here's something I didn't know:  you owe the IRS tax on the full amount of a legal settlement, including the part that your attorney takes, and itemizing deductions may only make things worse.
2013-02-10 11:53:31 AM  
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: that doesn't stop a few nutjobs from trying to make this a political thing and get all whiny when they get called out on their BS.



I'll remember you said that next time we have a shooting, then you try to paint the NRA and gun owners as somehow complicit in their actions.
2013-02-10 11:50:42 AM  
1 votes:

Real Women Drink Akvavit: You can fight it, of course, but if the cop shows up in traffic court, you'll probably lose, citizen.


Heck, the cop would probably just pistol-whip you to death in the courtroom for interrupting his hookers and blow time, while his buddies fired random shots to hold back the crowd, sounds like...
2013-02-10 11:46:41 AM  
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: LordJiro: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Christopher Dorner, a pro gun control, piers morgan/obama fan

Is there a citation for this or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?

It's in Christopher Dorner's "manifesto".  Maybe you should do a shred of research before acting like a jack ass.

You mean the one that said he wanted Huntsman, and didn't vote for Obama? That manifesto?

FTFManifesto
Mr. President, I haven't agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven't agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you've done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn't think you were going to pull that one off.

Funny you left out this part:

Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me,fark you. I didn't vote in this last election as my choice of candidate, John Huntsman, didn't win the primary candidacy for his party.

http://documents.latimes.com/christopher-dorner-manifesto/


Let's take a guess why..

Any other stupid tangents you'd like to try in an effort to avoid the inconvenient truths?  He's a super liberal anti gun nut.. on a shooting rampage.

/Oh, and congratulations on regaining your selective googling skills.
2013-02-10 11:23:32 AM  
1 votes:

Bungles: No-one in the UK or France or Australia or Germany or Canada or New Zealand would think twice about going up to a policeman and asking for directions or just a chat. The police in the US just seem to be wired and scary and angry.


They're effectively above the law, as demonstrated by the continued freedom of the officers involved, that is a major draw for a certain personality type.
2013-02-10 11:22:54 AM  
1 votes:

LordJiro: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Christopher Dorner, a pro gun control, piers morgan/obama fan

Is there a citation for this or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?

It's in Christopher Dorner's "manifesto".  Maybe you should do a shred of research before acting like a jack ass.

You mean the one that said he wanted Huntsman, and didn't vote for Obama? That manifesto?


FTFManifesto
Mr. President, I haven't agreed with all of your decisions but of course I haven't agreed with all of your predecessors decisions. I think you've done a hell of a job with what you have been dealt and how you have managed it. I shed a tear the night you were initially elected President in 2008. I never thought that day would occur. A black man elected president in the U.S. in my lifetime. I cracked a smiled when you were re-elected in 2012 because I really didn't think you were going to pull that one off.
2013-02-10 11:20:47 AM  
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: Fail in Human Form: Mrtraveler01: So I read the manifesto and I do see where he does support gun control and likes Piers Morgan.

He also listens to KFI (right-wing talk radio) and actually thinks Tim Tebow was good and Mark Sanchez is a rapist.

So what was the point in all of this again?

Oh yeah, you got to make your cute little political point. Now that you have, we can move on to the actual topic at hand.-

If he had been anti-gun control it would have been on the cover of every paper, the leading headline of every news report, and the first thing out of the gun control posters mouths on websites like this.  You damn well know it and you'd be saying the NRA gave the means for this "gun terrorist" to perform his acts and the NRA, along with its members, should be rounded up.  Not as much fun when the shoe's on the other foot is it?

It must've taken a lot of work to construct that strawman huh?


That's a cute dodge, but you know I'm right and just don't want to own up to it.
2013-02-10 11:18:11 AM  
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: So I read the manifesto and I do see where he does support gun control and likes Piers Morgan.

He also listens to KFI (right-wing talk radio) and actually thinks Tim Tebow was good and Mark Sanchez is a rapist.

So what was the point in all of this again?

Oh yeah, you got to make your cute little political point. Now that you have, we can move on to the actual topic at hand.-


If he had been anti-gun control it would have been on the cover of every paper, the leading headline of every news report, and the first thing out of the gun control posters mouths on websites like this.  You damn well know it and you'd be saying the NRA gave the means for this "gun terrorist" to perform his acts and the NRA, along with its members, should be rounded up.  Not as much fun when the shoe's on the other foot is it?
2013-02-10 11:08:21 AM  
1 votes:

Mrtraveler01: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Christopher Dorner, a pro gun control, piers morgan/obama fan

Is there a citation for this or are you just pulling stuff out of your ass?


It's in Christopher Dorner's "manifesto".  Maybe you should do a shred of research before acting like a jack ass.
2013-02-10 11:07:11 AM  
1 votes:
Sixty rounds and probably 2.shiats.

Between the mass shooting in NYC (which was a random asshole with a grudge against a co-worker) and this, can police hit the side of a barn under pressure?

I heard this was security detail protecting some house, not sure if they had something better then a 9mm glock.
Assuming 9mm glock at 15 rounds a magazine, that is two magazines each for two cops.
2013-02-10 10:55:58 AM  
1 votes:
Nah, they're not hiding anything.

No way.
2013-02-10 10:52:07 AM  
1 votes:
This will also become a federal civil rights case where their extremely shaky, if not nonexistent,  qualified immunity will not prevent them from jail time.
2013-02-10 10:51:21 AM  
1 votes:

way south: Might I suggest a Gray Nissan pickup designed to prevent similar incidents in the future?

dl.dropbox.com


According to the LAPD, this is a gray Nissan pickup
media.treehugger.com

So is this
cusd.schoolfusion.us

 and, on a good day, this

2.bp.blogspot.com
2013-02-10 10:48:12 AM  
1 votes:
In the course of this thread I have read that the newspaper deliverers driving the truck are:

Women
White women
Asian women
Hispanic

I'm going to have to say they're Native American.
2013-02-10 10:47:03 AM  
1 votes:
Don't remember that particular hazard
www.themarysue.com
2013-02-10 10:46:21 AM  
1 votes:
kmmontandon

I probably should've clarified that by "the f*ckers," I meant the LAPD.

and

vygramul

F*ck the LAPD.

You folks believe the lapd is unique in this level of incompetence, criminality and violence?

Ed Finnerty

Wow. Looks like a few cops need to spend more time at the shooting rangethe rest of their sorry lives in jail.
fify
2013-02-10 10:44:56 AM  
1 votes:

BillCo: Officials are going to reopen the original investigation so they can prove that there is nothing to Dorner's accusations.

Can you say "whitewash".


Someone pointed out in an earlier thread that reopening the case exempts it from FOI requests because it is an open case.
2013-02-10 10:43:39 AM  
1 votes:

elffster: Sue the fark out of them.  Then maybe (probably not) they will think twice about letting idiots w/ guns and badges loose like that.

Probably not.

But sue the fark out of them.  $150m payday or more.  Fark the LAPD.  Idiots.


Unfortunately the taxpayers will pay that bill and officer McShooty et al. will go unpunished.
2013-02-10 10:43:10 AM  
1 votes:

Raharu: namegoeshere: As much as it looks like he's guilty, legally he's innocent until proven guilty in court. Yet the LAPD is making no effort whatsoever to apprehend him. They opened fire on the truck without saying a word. Their goal is to murder him.

He killed a cop. This is cop law now.


It's been cop law for a very long time now. That's the problem.
2013-02-10 10:42:11 AM  
1 votes:
I feel like this is a lost story arc from The Shield.
2013-02-10 10:38:37 AM  
1 votes:

namegoeshere: As much as it looks like he's guilty, legally he's innocent until proven guilty in court. Yet the LAPD is making no effort whatsoever to apprehend him. They opened fire on the truck without saying a word. Their goal is to murder him.


He killed a cop. This is cop law now.
2013-02-10 10:32:58 AM  
1 votes:
Sending these local yokels after Dorner is really STUPID in the most perfect sense.

Any "real" police force would issue locate, do not approach orders.


/go watch Rambo ya slugs, at least it won't have you trying to kill citizens indiscriminately and get ya off'n the street
2013-02-10 10:31:06 AM  
1 votes:
Cops are special people who are more responsible than regular citizens, that's why we should give up our guns and arm them will full military hardware!  -This is what some people STILL believe.
2013-02-10 10:27:46 AM  
1 votes:

optikeye: Amazing that the cops mistook a 41yo white woman and a 71 yo white woman for a large black man...and then opened fire without any warning.


The two women now say they had no warning before they were caught in a hail of bullets by officers, and it is remarkable that they survived.




FTA, "Beck has called the incident "a tragic misinterpretation" by officers working under "incredible tension""

So you see, it's just "incredible tension."

/incredible tension
//not credible
2013-02-10 10:26:58 AM  
1 votes:
60 rounds?!?!
We really have to train those shootists. How many rounds did not even find the vehicle?
Maybe give them ASSAULT WEAPONS so they can get 1 shot/ one kill like Piers Anthony.
He can kill 60 Americans in one minute with an AR15, so he says, loudly, repeatedly, confidently, on his farkin' TV shill fest.

/Bonnie/Clyde assassans were at least good shots
2013-02-10 10:26:14 AM  
1 votes:

superdave386: That's a lot of bullet holes. What the fark caused that kind of response?


Only one thing provokes that kind of rage -- saying things that one is not allowed to say.
2013-02-10 10:26:07 AM  
1 votes:

superdave386: That's a lot of bullet holes. What the fark caused that kind of response?


Fear and anger on the part of the LAPD
2013-02-10 10:24:43 AM  
1 votes:

BillCo: Officials are going to reopen the original investigation so they can prove that there is nothing to Dorner's accusations.

Can you say "whitewash".


What a farking crock of shiat.  If LAPD wants to prove Dorner is full of shiat, let the FBI or at the very least the state police investigate that incident.  Their own internal affairs have zero credibility.
2013-02-10 10:22:54 AM  
1 votes:
They can put the truck on display with Bonnie and Clyde's car.
www.vegas4locals.com
2013-02-10 10:22:32 AM  
1 votes:

superdave386: That's a lot of bullet holes. What the fark caused that kind of response?


fear, cowardice and rage
2013-02-10 10:21:46 AM  
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kmmontandon: optikeye: kmmontandon: And they'll whine and pull a persecution complex every step of the way, the f*ckers.

WTF? The cops shot them without warning. And out of control, seriously could you mistake two women (ages 41, and 71) for one large black guy? If you want to hear whining...I'd bet the defense case for the cops is filled with that. We'll see. They shouldn't except a new truck they where attacked and shot...by cops without warning. If they except a new truck I'd bet it comes with strings attached as if it's all "cool" now.

I probably should've clarified that by "the f*ckers," I meant the LAPD.


No, it was pretty clear.  optikeye just needs to work on reading comp 101.
2013-02-10 10:19:13 AM  
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That's a lot of bullet holes. What the fark caused that kind of response?
2013-02-10 10:19:07 AM  
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Suggested motto for Fark:
"No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up."
~Lily Tomlin~
2013-02-10 10:17:58 AM  
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beta_plus: Thank god we have public sector unions to prevent horrible things like this from happening and to ensure those trigger happy cops get justice.



They're called pigs because they don't clean their house and they live in their own filth.

/one reason, anyway
2013-02-10 10:15:27 AM  
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Ed Finnerty: Wow. Looks like a few cops need to spend more time at the shooting range.


In a world of bad decisions, the good man will miss on purpose.
2013-02-10 10:14:26 AM  
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Sue the fark out of them.  Then maybe (probably not) they will think twice about letting idiots w/ guns and badges loose like that.

Probably not.

But sue the fark out of them.  $150m payday or more.  Fark the LAPD.  Idiots.
2013-02-10 10:09:19 AM  
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lolpix: I hate how the news always leaves it at "non life threatening" wounds. There are a lot of life changing wounds that don't threaten your life.


And it's only non-threatening wounds due to luck. Each bullet fired is lethal force, every one of them could have killed someone. What about the other car(s) and house(s) that were hit? Instructors at CCW classes usually have a saying, 'every bullet has a lawyer attached'.
2013-02-10 09:52:03 AM  
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Pud [TotalFark]
2013-02-10 08:11:59 AM  
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C'mon people, those biatches threw a farking newspaper at the house ....DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW DANGEROUS THAT IS?? We're just lucky they didn't kill every child, puppy and kitten on the block.
2013-02-10 07:38:42 AM  
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Officials are going to reopen the original investigation so they can prove that there is nothing to Dorner's accusations.

Can you say "whitewash".
2013-02-10 01:28:21 AM  
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kmmontandon: And they'll whine and pull a persecution complex every step of the way, the f*ckers.


WTF? The cops shot them without warning. And out of control, seriously could you mistake two women (ages 41, and 71) for one large black guy? If you want to hear whining...I'd bet the defense case for the cops is filled with that. We'll see. They shouldn't except a new truck they where attacked and shot...by cops without warning. If they except a new truck I'd bet it comes with strings attached as if it's all "cool" now.
 
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