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2013-02-10 04:15:18 PM

JWideman: Phinn: The LAPD is so generous (with taxpayer money), they should probably rename their organization to something more appropriate.

Like the "Ministry of Love."

Anyway, one of the loose ends in this sordid tale is that the LAPD still has Teresa "Chupacabra" Evans to deal with.  They can't find her retroactively guilty and fire her, because that would validate the actions of the crazy-man Dorners.  And they can't keep her around on patrol while she continues to kick people in the chest, crack skulls and flay the skin off of people.

So, really, the only two options for the LAPD at this point are to either kill her (like she's some kind of Asian newspaper thrower or something), or promote her.  She'll probably end up with a desk job with a fat pension where she can't sadistically torture citizens quite as frequently as she does these days.

Or they could just do to her what they do to the few good cops that report the bad cops: send her on violent crime in progress calls and when she calls for backup, nobody is available.


Promote her to captain; that will  get her off the streets.
 
2013-02-10 04:17:45 PM

BarkingUnicorn: JWideman: Phinn: The LAPD is so generous (with taxpayer money), they should probably rename their organization to something more appropriate.

Like the "Ministry of Love."

Anyway, one of the loose ends in this sordid tale is that the LAPD still has Teresa "Chupacabra" Evans to deal with.  They can't find her retroactively guilty and fire her, because that would validate the actions of the crazy-man Dorners.  And they can't keep her around on patrol while she continues to kick people in the chest, crack skulls and flay the skin off of people.

So, really, the only two options for the LAPD at this point are to either kill her (like she's some kind of Asian newspaper thrower or something), or promote her.  She'll probably end up with a desk job with a fat pension where she can't sadistically torture citizens quite as frequently as she does these days.

Or they could just do to her what they do to the few good cops that report the bad cops: send her on violent crime in progress calls and when she calls for backup, nobody is available.

Promote her to captain; that will  get her off the streets.


handcuffs and prison would work much better.
 
2013-02-10 04:19:28 PM

Arn_Dee: Raharu: The officers who shot the mother and daughter have been put on paid administrative leave.


From here.
http://gawker.com/5983076/seven-days-later-the-killer-ex+cop-is-stil l- on-the-loose

PAID LEAVE? FOR FARKING SHOOTING INNOCENT FARKING PEOPLE?


It's therapy, not punishment.  Those officers are traumatized every time they pull a trigger.

Also, punishment is supposed to come after a trial and conviction in a court of law, not just on Fark.
 
2013-02-10 04:21:32 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Arn_Dee: Raharu: The officers who shot the mother and daughter have been put on paid administrative leave.


From here.
http://gawker.com/5983076/seven-days-later-the-killer-ex+cop-is-stil l- on-the-loose

PAID LEAVE? FOR FARKING SHOOTING INNOCENT FARKING PEOPLE?

It's therapy, not punishment.  Those officers are traumatized every time they pull a trigger.

Also, punishment is supposed to come after a trial and conviction in a court of law, not just on Fark.


Then don't pull the farking trigger on something unless you know what you're shooting at.  Basic farking gun safety.
 
2013-02-10 04:28:02 PM
LordJiro: If NOTHING else, the cops should be fired and arrested for opening fire without warning on ANYONE.  Their desperation to kill Dorner only serves to convince people that hey, there might be something to Dorner's claims about the LAPD.
 
/Don't think Dorner is a hero or any bullshiat like that. The moment he decided to murder people, he became a bad guy too.
//LAPD needs a serious enema.



I see it as someone who has a shield to hide behind and suddenly some punched it through, showing how paper thin it really is and is now panicking at how vulnerable they really are.
or
I'm just misreading the situation

Have no doubt, I believe LAPD, like most pd's need to clean their house regularly
 
2013-02-10 04:40:08 PM

ha-ha-guy: Lost Thought 00: By accepting the truck, they will be waiving their right to sue the department for any further damages, with the courts saying that the truck is sufficient compensation

The women have a lawyer.  Unless this lawyer is like Quan and purposefully sandbagging cases to protect LAPD, no way he'll let them accept the truck.


You're both wrong.  Lawyer has stated that truck does not preclude lawsuit, establishing claim to further compensation.

If you accept partial payment on a debt, that doesn't extinguish your claim to more unless you sign a contract to such effect.

Contrary to urban myth, writing "payment in full' on a check's memo field doesn't mean squat even if the creditor endorses and cashes the check.  A contract must be formed in "good faith," and this stunt is a classic example of bad faith.  The creditor gets your partial payment and you still owe the balance.
 
2013-02-10 04:43:15 PM
I read the manifesto of the guy that the cops are hunting, and his main point was that the LAPD was corrupt and had no respect for civilian lives.

I don't think the LAPD could have done a better job of proving his point than this.
 
2013-02-10 04:47:47 PM

StokeyBob: Police seeking Dorner opened fire in a second case of mistaken identity


pyrotek85: Girion47: I'm curious if the women fired back, how would they be viewed?  Probably as cop killers, and be charged with something.  Even if they were returning fire against a hostile force that initially assaulted them.

BraveNewCheneyWorld: DS1970: Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.

If cops shoot you thinking you're someone else, and you do manage to shoot them in self defense, you're getting executed anyway, which is nice.

Yeah you're pretty much screwed if you fire back. Same deal if they do a swat raid on the wrong house.


Indiana First State to Allow Citizens to Shoot Law Enforcement Officers
Why yes, all the blue knickers are hopelessly knotted.
 
2013-02-10 05:04:36 PM

BarkingUnicorn: StokeyBob: Police seeking Dorner opened fire in a second case of mistaken identity

pyrotek85: Girion47: I'm curious if the women fired back, how would they be viewed?  Probably as cop killers, and be charged with something.  Even if they were returning fire against a hostile force that initially assaulted them.

BraveNewCheneyWorld: DS1970: Yes, my firearms are protecting me not even primarily from criminals, but from the "serve and protect" SS who constantly abuse their badges and are just plain - sloppy.  Like this incident.

If cops shoot you thinking you're someone else, and you do manage to shoot them in self defense, you're getting executed anyway, which is nice.

Yeah you're pretty much screwed if you fire back. Same deal if they do a swat raid on the wrong house.

Indiana First State to Allow Citizens to Shoot Law Enforcement Officers
Why yes, all the blue knickers are hopelessly knotted.


Ah yes, I remember someplace was making a law like that. It's a good step for cases of abuse, but in practice you're probably still going to get shot, and they may even plant evidence to bolster their side of the story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting

This was a rare case though, the police involved actually ended up going to prison.
 
2013-02-10 05:21:44 PM

Girion47: BarkingUnicorn: JWideman: Phinn: The LAPD is so generous (with taxpayer money), they should probably rename their organization to something more appropriate.

Like the "Ministry of Love."

Anyway, one of the loose ends in this sordid tale is that the LAPD still has Teresa "Chupacabra" Evans to deal with.  They can't find her retroactively guilty and fire her, because that would validate the actions of the crazy-man Dorners.  And they can't keep her around on patrol while she continues to kick people in the chest, crack skulls and flay the skin off of people.

So, really, the only two options for the LAPD at this point are to either kill her (like she's some kind of Asian newspaper thrower or something), or promote her.  She'll probably end up with a desk job with a fat pension where she can't sadistically torture citizens quite as frequently as she does these days.

Or they could just do to her what they do to the few good cops that report the bad cops: send her on violent crime in progress calls and when she calls for backup, nobody is available.

Promote her to captain; that will  get her off the streets.

handcuffs and prison would work much better.


Never gonna happen.

They'll re-exonerate her, and then either move her to some unimportant desk job, or assign her to the most dangerous task force in the department, where she will meet an untimely death at the hands of persons unknown, to then be remembered as a glorious fallen hero.

Or she'll move to BFE to spend more time with family.
 
2013-02-10 05:33:00 PM

Girion47: BarkingUnicorn: Arn_Dee: Raharu: The officers who shot the mother and daughter have been put on paid administrative leave.


From here.
http://gawker.com/5983076/seven-days-later-the-killer-ex+cop-is-stil l- on-the-loose

PAID LEAVE? FOR FARKING SHOOTING INNOCENT FARKING PEOPLE?

It's therapy, not punishment.  Those officers are traumatized every time they pull a trigger.

Also, punishment is supposed to come after a trial and conviction in a court of law, not just on Fark.

Then don't pull the farking trigger on something unless you know what you're shooting at.  Basic farking gun safety.


:-)  My "therapy' statement was sarcastic.  The "punishment" line was not.  But as for your "basic" rule:

That works fine when target shooting.  It's a bit more dangerous when hunting.  It's much more dangerous when confronting humans.  Our laws acknowledge these differences.
 
2013-02-10 05:33:09 PM

neongoats:

The "innocent family members" he has allegedly killed are cops. And was heavily reported that way initially, until they LAPD pr machine started referring to their other side professions and hiding their cop-ness.


orclover: neongoats: The "innocent family members" he has allegedly killed are cops. And was heavily reported that way initially, until they LAPD pr machine started referring to their other side professions and hiding their cop-ness.

Its kind of funny how that fact has been completely glossed over durring the evolution of this story.  You have to be paying attention and check a few sources but you can find it if you dig around enough.  Both the daughter and the fiance, both cops.  This wasn't some teenage heartthrob and her quarterback boyfriend.

The propaganda machine has been running on overtime throughout ALL of this and it has been amazing to watch.  I honestly cant tell the difference between the paid opinion swayers posting here and the usual trolling.


I can't find anything stating that Randy Quan's daughter, Monica is a police officer or her finace Kieth Lawrence.
The only info I can find states that Monica Quan was an assistant coach for Cal State Fullerton women's basketball team and Keith Lawrence was an USC security officer.

From Dorner's manifesto "I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I'm terminating yours. Quan, ..., and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead," the manifesto read, in part. "

It seems that Monica Quan was killed because Randy Quan did not do a good enough job before the hearing to keep Dorner on the force and Kieth Lawrence may have been killed because of wrong place/wrong time
 
2013-02-10 05:33:51 PM
I hope one of the LAPD cops doesn't rat out his fellow cops for excessive force for this, leading to his dismissal, leading to his murderous rampage of revenge five years later, which leads to LAPD cops shooting up another innocent person, which leads another cop to rat out his partners for excessive force ... and the cycle just keeps going
 
2013-02-10 05:47:35 PM
I wonder how that door-to-door search of 600 dwellings in the San Bernardino Mtns. is going for the dwellers.
 
2013-02-10 06:37:54 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Arn_Dee: Raharu: The officers who shot the mother and daughter have been put on paid administrative leave.


From here.
http://gawker.com/5983076/seven-days-later-the-killer-ex+cop-is-stil l- on-the-loose

PAID LEAVE? FOR FARKING SHOOTING INNOCENT FARKING PEOPLE?

It's therapy, not punishment.  Those officers are traumatized every time they pull a trigger.

Also, punishment is supposed to come after a trial and conviction in a court of law, not just on Fark.


Criminal punishment.

That isn't required for firing people who have clearly demonstrated their incompetence.
 
2013-02-10 07:10:07 PM

liam76: BarkingUnicorn: Arn_Dee: Raharu: The officers who shot the mother and daughter have been put on paid administrative leave.


From here.
http://gawker.com/5983076/seven-days-later-the-killer-ex+cop-is-stil l- on-the-loose

PAID LEAVE? FOR FARKING SHOOTING INNOCENT FARKING PEOPLE?

It's therapy, not punishment.  Those officers are traumatized every time they pull a trigger.

Also, punishment is supposed to come after a trial and conviction in a court of law, not just on Fark.

Criminal punishment.

That isn't required for firing people who have clearly demonstrated their incompetence.


One of the most basic obligations of carrying a firearm is "know your target".
Failing that rule is criminal.
Who is standing up to defend friendly fire by direct volition?
 
2013-02-11 09:16:46 AM

jaybeezey: Mrtraveler01: Brubold: MFAWG: beta_plus: Thank god we have public sector unions to prevent horrible things like this from happening and to ensure those trigger happy cops get justice.

/liberals need to stop preaching a culture of hate

Oh, 9 out of 10! Missing Obamacare and random caps, but top notch!

And yet he's right. If we didn't have corrupt unions protecting corrupt cops they'd be out of jobs and we'd be far safer.

LAPD is corrupt enough without the help of unions.

/nice try

And Skeletor was evil enough without adding in MechaNeck, yet He-Man still had to deal with both.


But he did it with the help of Moss Man.  It's the marijuana agenda all over!

/best reference in the thread yet.
 
2013-02-11 04:49:15 PM
First off, the truck is being purchased by a civilian donor - presumably LAPD strong armed a used car lot somewhere.

Secondly, the odds a woman who took two .40 slugs to her spine will ever drive any truck again are very low.
 
2013-02-11 07:56:44 PM

liam76: I am surprised the LAPD isn't trying to blame them.  If they didn't have so much shiat on their hand with Dorner I am sure they would be trying plant a gun.


It's confusing for me when I agree with people I dont like.

\Complicates my farkies.
 
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