Bontesla: Specifically what factual evidence are you using to condemn Dorner as a murderer?

I'm not the judicial system. I don't have the burden of legal proof. I can extrapolate based on circumstantial evidence using deductive reasoning.

Given he is fleeing arrest.
Given that he left a manifesto.
Given that people connected to people connected directly to names in the manifesto are dead.
Given that the police are acting like scared little children, just like any bullies do when they meet a bigger bully.

I feel it is with some degree of certainly close to 100 that I can assume he is in fact a murderer. So I do not pepper my language with superfluous qualifiers like a biatch. I'm going out on a limb. It's a very sturdy limb and I have no fear it's going to break. However, you've caught me extrapolating and bully for you. If the stars align and he hasn't actually killed anyone, I'll buy you a beer. Until then, I'm calling him a murderer because all signs point that way.

k_46r_a: The text moving around every time the photo changed almost made me seasick...

you don't have a motion sickness issue do you?


how can i help?

IamKaiserSoze!!!: tshauk: No Time To Explain: This is one of those stories I'm conflict on who I support

/the ex-cop who went a little ballistic after despising the corruption witnessed in his line of work
//or the retarded chips who are corrupted and do such moronic things and get away with it

///i feel sad that America has went full retard this fast in my lifetime

I completely understand your plight.

Cops are idiots for the most part and way out of control, they are to far removed from the society they mean to protect.

However, Dorner killed innocent family members, and there is no justice in that.  He needs to be hunted and brought to justice.

The two are separate in my opinion, but when they clash more will die.

It's tragic all around.

I've met a lot of cops over the years and haven't noticed a higher percentage of idiots in that population than any other, and in fact far less than what I find in some Fark threads.

Good on you though for working so hard for your fark counterculture merit badge.

This guy was scum the minute he put this plot together and killed innocent people. Even if he was kicked off the force inappropriately (and there is no evidence he was) he warrants no sympathy from anyone.

You met cops?  individuals are much smarted than the collective.

YES, police act like idiots too, and with much more frequency than should be tolerated.

Can I have my badge now?

Cerebral Knievel: So, what upcoming "an innocent man, who knows to much and is now being hunted by a corrupt system that must silence him at costs and needs to find the real killer to clear his name" movie is this a viral marketing campaign for?

I heard they are looking at him for the role...

alienated: tshauk: I've met a lot of cops over the years and haven't noticed a higher percentage of idiots in that population than any other, and in fact far less than what I find in some Fark threads.

thats not really giving credit to idiots. Please- think of the idiots.

Those aren't my words.  Just sayin.

ItchyMcDoogle: When people say the words LA Justice its not a good thing.

Anytime you use the word "justice" when referring to anything in the legal system, it's hubris. There is no justice inherent in any part of America's legal system. It's a system of rules and punishments for breaking said rules coupled with mechanisms to enforce the system on those who are unwilling to cooperate peacefully. It is not, however, justice.

Justice can be had if you do the right things, grease the right palms, and go to temple with enough of the right lawyers to either afford them or get a freebie. But much like extrajudicial justice, you can't really get it without heroic efforts on your part. The closest thing the legal system has to justice is the death penalty, and even that's so slow it's hardly worth it.

But then, justice doesn't really make things right, it just makes things even. "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" I believe is the saying.

Never call courts, lawyers, police, or judges "Justice". It's "Law". Law is important, vital even, to the success of a nation, but it is not justice and you're going to make bad assumptions about your chances playing with that fire if you mix the two words up in your head.

Hermione_Granger: Dorner is the deadest walking black man alive at present.

Yesterday I posted something along the lines the what Aemrica does best is train people to kill. And some responded back, supposed finishing my sentence saying that the people who are killed "needed killing".

And I'd like to say to that asshole: You tell that to the family of Aiyanna Jones. Tell that to the family of Treyvon Martin. Tell that to the family of Oscar Grant.

Find me the story of even one white person suspiciously shot by the police in 2012. Just one. Any one. Does this happen to white people? I know poor white folks get harassed by the police, but killed? Just outright killed? Sometimes some uppity white woman gets tased, but killed?

I just would like to know if anyone knows of a white person outright killed by the police just for walking, or sleeping in a house where a criminal might be or for surrendering to the police and got shot while laying down in handcuffs because the cop mistook his gun for a taser.

Does this shiat happen to white people?

If it does, I would really like to know and I would like to start adding these stories to the collective. Because once this shiat really starts happening to white folk on a daily basis, America is truly farked.

Brace yourself,,,and Welcome to Fark.

styckx: Hermione_Granger: Dorner is the deadest walking black man alive at present.

Yesterday I posted something along the lines the what Aemrica does best is train people to kill. And some responded back, supposed finishing my sentence saying that the people who are killed "needed killing".

And I'd like to say to that asshole: You tell that to the family of Aiyanna Jones. Tell that to the family of Treyvon Martin. Tell that to the family of Oscar Grant.

Find me the story of even one white person suspiciously shot by the police in 2012. Just one. Any one. Does this happen to white people? I know poor white folks get harassed by the police, but killed? Just outright killed? Sometimes some uppity white woman gets tased, but killed?

I just would like to know if anyone knows of a white person outright killed by the police just for walking, or sleeping in a house where a criminal might be or for surrendering to the police and got shot while laying down in handcuffs because the cop mistook his gun for a taser.

Does this shiat happen to white people?

If it does, I would really like to know and I would like to start adding these stories to the collective. Because once this shiat really starts happening to white folk on a daily basis, America is truly farked.

10/10.. You're going to get a shiat load of bites on this one.. Allstar quality trolling.

12/10.  Only because I don't think he's kidding.

I don't know if this was posted in previous threads. Michael Ruppert on the matter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9yDJ06Z2-w&feature=player_embedded

HindiDiscoMonster: Cerebral Knievel: So, what upcoming "an innocent man, who knows to much and is now being hunted by a corrupt system that must silence him at costs and needs to find the real killer to clear his name" movie is this a viral marketing campaign for?

I heard they are looking at him for the role...
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I haven't seen him around for a while. Hopefully they can dig him up.

Deep Contact: Enemabag Jones: >Deep Contact
He's in here.
Just waiting to show him off.

What is the big deal about a few five gallon buckets?

Fish bait.

"I can go slow ahead. Come down here and chum some of this shiat" (youtube)

He accuses senior black officers of farking with junior white officers.

/have not heard this covered yet

Enemabag Jones: There has been some sort of gang war looking for an informant, and for second time someone has been shot at due to confusion. Luckily nobody has died.

Jesus Christ, that's insane. Police stop a small white dude when they are looking for a large black dude, and ask him a bunch of questions because he was driving a similar vehicle. Dude is obviously not the droids they are looking for so why even bother asking him questions about where he is going and what he is doing? And then a 2nd cop slams his cruiser into his truck because "he was coming right at us"? Seems to me the cop was coming right at him.

And yet not one Goddamn thing will happen to the cops who pull this shiat. Shooting at every Nissan truck you see because the bad guy *might* be in it? Wounding civilans and making no attempt to make sure of the target? How the fark can they be allowed to do this shiat?

Is someone is *actively* trying to kill me. Say they are shooting at me, and I return fire, and one of my bullets misses and injures an innocent person,  I am held responsible. Criminal and cival penalties all around. Doesn't matter that it was the other guy trying to kill me that forced me to respond. But if a cop goes "Hey, the killer was driving a black Ford F-150, and there is someone in a green Toyota Tundra, better empty three mags into it as it drives by and force it off the road into a ditch with my cruiser, and then shoot some more, just in case" He is found to "have acted in accordance with dept policy"

Fark these people.