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2013-02-10 12:24:48 AM  
This is why civilians need 30 round magazines.
 
2013-02-10 12:24:53 AM  

BSABSVR: Oh, Jesus Christ.  Another thread where you idiots treat an unstable nutter like he's the goddamn batman.


But the goddamn Batman was an unstable nutter, wasn't he?  Mentally broken whack-jobs can still still be forces of good even if completely by accident.
 
2013-02-10 12:27:01 AM  
Did he give a bad 3-day forecast?
 
2013-02-10 12:28:31 AM  

doglover: LessO2: It's stuff like this that makes Dorner's words about the police look more and more credible.

Not quite. Even a crazy clock is right sometimes. That doesn't mean it's logical, just that jumping to enough conclusions is accuracy by volume. The LAPD probably is a pile of shiat just like he claimed in his little diatribe. But you can't judge that by him because he's reaching that conclusion from Crazytown and is thus unreliable.

However, the fact that they lit up two different wrong trucks looking for him like a coupla real life Barney Fifes shows they're weak and womanly (in the pejorative viking sense that was actually illegal to use) and they probably shouldn't be police officers at all. Also just look at LA. Apparently it's covered in graffiti and the cops won't come to your house to arrest a drunken driver who has just crashed his truck into it. They will not hesitate to pull you over for not having two license plates, though. This is if Adam Carola is to be believed. He is not crazy and his other observations are sound.

That is the rub. The Crazy Man is correct that the department is awful. However that doesn't mean his reasoning to get there is sound. You can't take his word for it. However, look at the LAPD's actions and look at the hubris that lets an obviously unfair system with a huge bias towards the rich parade around the term "Justice System" as though they even know the meaning of the word. Then draw your own conclusions. Do they measure up or are they just another street gang?


Kinda sounds like a manic depressive when you read his stuff, like it was written in small bits on different days and put together without any separation so it sounds illogical, and he did say he was suffering from depression and that people would say what you are saying!

The cops are the biggest street gang!
 
2013-02-10 12:28:39 AM  

daveinsurgent: His writings are way more lucid than the average Farker


Okay, you got me.  I got it now.

/Yes, I'm a sucker, blah blah
//*bows, queen wave, etc.*
///three
 
2013-02-10 12:29:31 AM  
Don't beat me!
logat.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-10 12:33:20 AM  

lolpix: BSABSVR: Oh, Jesus Christ.  Another thread where you idiots treat an unstable nutter like he's the goddamn batman.

Batman was an unstable nutter.


Ding
 
2013-02-10 12:33:43 AM  

coco ebert: Sgygus: $795,000 settlement

so there is that.

/Denver cops are not a good bunch.

That probably covered maybe half the hospital bills.


And the rest went to the lawyers!
 
2013-02-10 12:39:41 AM  

Amos Quito: Gyrfalcon: Dr.Zom: Dorner's no hero and his justifications went out the window when he killed Monica Quan and her fiance. If he'd stuck to corrupt cops I might have some sympathy for him.

Denver cops are notorious assholes. So are Portland's (Oregon).

This, in spades.

He killed a girl and her fiance, and then he shot two cops (killing one) from a city totally unrelated to his complaint. The dead cop and the other officer were from Riverside PD and had exactly zero to do with Dorner's being fired from the LAPD. Their only connection was driving up in a black&white and wearing blue uniforms.

And Saddam Hussein was behind 9-11 and had WMD's


What? Dorner DIDN'T kill those three people? It was all just a big misunderstanding and he's really really sorry? Or you think the LAPD did it to frame him for a three-year old minor corruption charge that was "going to blow the lid off LAPD"? (Never mind the witnesses) That's unusually paranoid even for you.

No, I know the LAPD is pretty bad, but I seriously doubt a cop who'd been in for a couple of years and got canned for reporting his partner for beating a retarded guy had  acquired so much intel on the top brass that they're so scared of him they'd resort to murdering two innocent people and one of their own to cover it up. If that were true, then it would have to be true that Saddam Hussein really WAS behind 9/11.
 
2013-02-10 12:43:21 AM  

Amos Quito: BSABSVR: Oh, Jesus Christ.  Another thread where you idiots treat an unstable nutter like he's the goddamn batman.


Which nutter?

I suggest that we make the President the Commander In Chief of all Police Forces.

And you'll agree.

Until they elect a REPUBLICAN to that office.

Then you'll shiat your pretty pink panties, won't you, BSABSVR?


and here....we...go.
 
2013-02-10 12:47:11 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: sseye: Marcus Aurelius: doglover: Every sensible country also has a death penalty

/backs away slowly

What? Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, and China are the bee's knees.

The brown countries in this picture are the only places that have a death penalty for everyday crimes:



America is a barbaric country, no two ways about it.


Reporter: Tell me, Mr. Gandhi, what do you think of western civilization?


Mr. Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.
 
2013-02-10 12:54:34 AM  
stiletto_the_wise:

Awesome.

Yet, next election season, the winner will always be the guy who shouts the loudest, "OOGABOOGABOOGA! CRIME!! MOAR POLICE!! MOAR ENFORCEMENT!! TARF ON CRIME!! HURRRRRR!"


Wealthy people who can afford lawyers, wealthier means better lawyers, like the status quo, as long as the cops are protecting them at everyone else s expense!
 
2013-02-10 12:56:21 AM  
CSB

In 2008, I requested to do a "ride-along" with the Denver Police because I was thinking about getting out the Army and interested in law enforcement, figured Denver would be a nice place to start my post-Army career. After the shift, I remember an overwhelming feeling these were some shady mofo's and they were obviously holding back when responding to calls because I was there.

/CSB
 
2013-02-10 01:01:01 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: MNguy: Marcus Aurelius:
/cops taking liberties with justice are exactly like state store workers stealing booze

Makes perfect sense.  Can I try?

/cops taking liberties with justice is exactly like schoolteachers stealing pencils

Only if they stick the pencils up their students orifii.  We're talking felonies here.


Seems like I heard that state store employees are retired/disabled/disgraced state police!!!
 
2013-02-10 01:03:53 AM  

daveinsurgent: You're a dumbass. His writings are way more lucid than the average Farker and whatever deficiencies you're trying to hone in on are those of someone who has been pushed to the edge and doesn't plan to come back. They don't exactly triple check their farking work.

I don't support his actions but he's behaving in a manner not unlike many other 'heroes' we've had in the past, just with a different context being deployed around him. That kind of shiat show happened with every. single. farking. person. who has ever stood up or taken things "to the next level" throughout history.


Really.Shall we take a look, then? I'm using the copy found here, and here's what I'm seeing:

First, I'm not seeing significant trauma. I'm seeing a lot of events that suck ass, but not something an average person would be traumatized by, and I'm also seeing a solid support system and a man who knows he's innocent. So your 'pushed to the edge' theory doesn't really hold water; someone who's emotionally strong enough to want to be a police officer is not going to be traumatized by losing their job, especially if they know they're innocent (personal outlook on events is one of the biggest indicators of whether or not the event will be traumatic; the best indicator is a feeling of helplessness, which our friend does not display at any point). Now, that's not to say this isn't clearly his breaking point, but given that there is not a  typically traumatic event here, and that he clearly has other issues, that indicates that he's experiencing something beyond direct trauma. Something's farking with his brain.

Second, starting with the paragraph where our friend discusses being labeled a 'bully', he starts using very strange speech patterns. It really looks like someone else is writing. Skip down a paragraph to where he talks about being spanked as a child, and you see the same strange speech patterns. When you go down a bit farther, starting with the paragraph where he says "Luckily I don't have to live everyday like the rest of you", it continues, and on and off down the entire manifesto.  It's like reading a transcript of someone who's talking normally suddenly talking very quickly and in fractured sentences and thoughts, and the rest of this has read like a professional report until now. That's a very clear indicator that the person writing is not capable of maintaining their train of thought. Once you get past his very long hero-in-a-video-game spiel, he goes back to it with a rant on the Assault Weapons Ban\Obama. He starts switching between addressing specific people to ranting at others. At one point he skips from talking to his friends to talk about  how much he'll hate missing The Hangover III and shark week.

Third, this guy has  extreme anger issues. To start with, he admits to trying to  strangle a fellow officer for saying the n-word, as well as being honestly confused that he was spanked for punching another boy as a child and sympathizing with an elderly lady who hosed down her tenants. He occasionally throws in a furious sentence at the people he's talking about, or makes comments like "your day has come". Get past the AWB\Obama spiel, and it's pretty clear he's also holding a grudge against hismiddle school principal.

Fourth, let's look at this sentence: "Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that. " Now, this is something I'd expect to see from someone who was in a war zone or was raped, not someone who lost his job, which I did cover first--it really looks like something is altering his perceptions.

Fifth, he goes on to start talking like he basically thinks he's the hero in a video game. That's a pretty classic symptom of any delusional disorder. And this goes on for a looooong time. That's probably the clearest symptom besides the anger, mixed with some of that traumatic talking I mentioned. Here's a great example: "Whatever pre-planned responses you have established for a scenario like me, shelve it. Whatever contingency plan you have, shelve it. Whatever tertiary plan you've created, shelve it. I am a walking exigent circumstance with no OFF or reset button. " Seriously, I would write this for a fictional character and then delete it because it sounds too much like the Black Veil Brides song I'm listening to. He goes back to it repeatedly.

Sixth, he mentions previously having extreme depression right before this. Comorbidity rates correlate highly with prior disorders--in English, once something goes screwy there's a  huge chance of something  else going screwy.

Look, I don't care if you think this guy's a hero, it's your life and your role models, whatever. But he's showing symptoms of being batshiat insane. Crazy people can be heroes if you like, but that doesn't mean they aren't farking crazy.
 
2013-02-10 01:06:49 AM  

NightOwl2255: PsiChick: He's certainly very lucid, but he is not by any means a sane person

You don't seem to grasp that sane, and insane, are legal terms, not medical ones. Sane is simply does he know right from wrong. He is very, very sane.


Fine, then, to use medical terms, he's symptomatic for anger issues, depression, delusions, and illogical thinking. Happier?
 
2013-02-10 01:11:26 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Sgygus: $795,000 settlement

so there is that.

/Denver cops are not a good bunch.

I lived in Denver for 30 years and had several "interactions" with cops.  They were very professional and courteous.

/And so was I.


Did you question their authority in any way and where you white at the time of these "interactions"?
 
2013-02-10 01:12:49 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Amos Quito: Gyrfalcon: Dr.Zom: Dorner's no hero and his justifications went out the window when he killed Monica Quan and her fiance. If he'd stuck to corrupt cops I might have some sympathy for him.

Denver cops are notorious assholes. So are Portland's (Oregon).

This, in spades.

He killed a girl and her fiance, and then he shot two cops (killing one) from a city totally unrelated to his complaint. The dead cop and the other officer were from Riverside PD and had exactly zero to do with Dorner's being fired from the LAPD. Their only connection was driving up in a black&white and wearing blue uniforms.

And Saddam Hussein was behind 9-11 and had WMD's

What? Dorner DIDN'T kill those three people?



Personally, I'm big on the whole "innocent until proven" thing.

Given his "manifesto", the murder of the BB coach and fiance looks pretty damn damning (unconscionable,BTW), but the "ambush" of the cops? Not so sure.

We can however feel comfortable in blaming Dorner for the cops shooting up the newspaper deliverers and the dude (and chick?) in the black truck - i mean, after all, if HE (or whoever) hadn't made the cops SO paranoid and SO trigger happy, they'd all be at home watching the Disney Channel right now.

No?

Gyrfalcon: No, I know the LAPD is pretty bad, but I seriously doubt a cop who'd been in for a couple of years and got canned for reporting his partner for beating a retarded guy had acquired so much intel on the top brass that they're so scared of him they'd resort to murdering two innocent people and one of their own to cover it up. If that were true, then it would have to be true that Saddam Hussein really WAS behind 9/11.



No, it would have to be true that Saddam Hussein really WASN'T behind 9/11, and that we wasted 10 years, 100,000 + lives and bankrupted the nation for nothing.

Oh, wait...

This is getting to be MUCH too difficult to follow. I think I'm going to shift gears here. Henceforth, I shall believe whatever I am told to believe by whoever has the most firepower - until they tell me to believe otherwise.

Life's just simpler that way.


/GO TEAM!
 
2013-02-10 01:16:52 AM  
DENVER - A 23-year-old man who was beaten by three Denver police officers after he questioned their authority to search the trunk of his car

Cops and criminals are the same people and live by the same code and see the world through the same prescriptions lenses.

Cops can get away with it.  And as long as we buy into barking tough guy bullsh*t at each other and not demanding better, they're gonna.

Welcome to being the meat in a criminal "justice" system industry sandwich.
 
2013-02-10 01:21:29 AM  
NightOwl# : Legal terms such as "sane" and "insane" will be up for discussion when this matter reaches a court of law, and after the suspect has been evaluated by a professional.  All bets are off until then, there, Cochise.
 
2013-02-10 01:23:02 AM  
we see this happen every single day because as the police are the vanguard of the justice system, and as such they will always be immune from all but a miniscule percentage of the incredibly egregious attacks they commit upon innocent civilians daily.
this is because prosecutors have a profound interest in maintaining their symbiotic relationships with law enforcement.

the only other avenue for deterrence is through civil lawsuits. unfortunately a side effect of the very important doctrine of sovereign immunity is an almost unaccountable police force. even the civil rights act in 42 U.S.C. § 1983 only allows relief if someone's civil rights have been violated, which is a very tough standard for plaintiffs to meet. what makes it almost toothless in deterring aberrant behavior by our LEOs is most jurisdictions have passed laws to indemnify the cops for even these very difficult to prove violations.

this behavior will never end until our individual state passes laws allowing civil suits against police officers personally for negligent/wilful misconduct and prohibit the indemnification of officers that behave recklessly or maliciously.

until the legislators of our respective states put these morally bankrupt officers' homes, their automobiles, and especially their pensions on the line in civil actions these rouge officers will continue to brutalize society with an impunity that would make and iraq war merc blush. as a practical matter, they are immune from the rules which govern of society.
above all else, your local police union is the ultimate enemy of law and order in america.
 
2013-02-10 01:27:25 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: America is a barbaric country, no two ways about it.


How? It's a state issue.
 
2013-02-10 01:31:00 AM  
Deliver brutal beatdown to small woman, get probation. Anyone but a cop would have done time for that. "Self defense". Piece of garbage.
 
2013-02-10 01:32:43 AM  

PsiChick: Fine, then, to use medical terms, he's symptomatic for anger issues, depression, delusions, and illogical thinking. Happier?


None of which would be mitigating factors. All a court is concerened about is did he know right from wrong when he committed the acts. So far, all evidence is that he clearly did know what he was doing was wrong (illegal).
 
2013-02-10 01:45:13 AM  
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U MAD BRO?


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He mad.
 
2013-02-10 01:46:12 AM  

Repo Man: Deliver brutal beatdown to small woman, get probation. Anyone but a cop would have done time for that. "Self defense". Piece of garbage.


the most important piece of this is if there wasn't video, she would have been the one spending six months in jail. if they had control of sole custody of the evidence there is a good chance it never sees the light of day.

people who abuse this incredible privilege, this legal monopoly on violence so that they may maintain order and protect us, should spend 25 years in jail. 25 years without parole.
I can't think of anything more wicked and deleterious. your local politician embezzling a million dollars from the state orphanage doesn't hold a candle to what that sick f*ck did in that video.
 
ecl
2013-02-10 02:25:54 AM  

eggrolls: So the going rate for three pigs to beat the living shiat out of you is 795k and knowing they will be out there gunning for you possibly forever.

Got it.


FTFY
 
Xai
2013-02-10 03:07:59 AM  
You have to love the US system, basically the local taxpayers pay $800k and the police beat the shiat out of anyone they like.
 
2013-02-10 03:11:46 AM  

NightOwl2255: wrong (illegal).


In the world of the human mind, wrong and illegal are often seperate entities.  For that matter, in the legal court system, wrong and illegal are often seperate entities.
 
2013-02-10 04:23:06 AM  

kombat_unit: Why do farkers call police, when they are the epitome of evil?


We don't call the police. We don't make a peace bond. We don't trust in the judicial system, we shoot guns. We rely on the streets, we do battle in the hood. I was born in the G Code, it's embedded in my blood.

/Seriously though, I only call the police names.
 
2013-02-10 04:23:54 AM  
Kill them. Kill them all.
 
2013-02-10 04:49:33 AM  
The fark? No. Dorner is  not Batman,  he is possibly schizophrenic and certainly mentally ill. He needs to be put in a nice padded cell, not turned into a farking martyr.

Since when are murderers automatically labelled as schizophrenic and "certainly mentally ill".
 
2013-02-10 05:04:58 AM  
And next election, every Farker who is foaming at the mouth about how cops are allowed to get away with this kind of shiat will vote for politicians who will do absolutely nothing about it.
 
2013-02-10 05:41:49 AM  
I will repeat what I've said many times before.  Any cop who fails to report corruption by a fellow cop is, by definition, a corrupt cop. The way things have played out in Los Angeles shows that the entire police force is rotten to the core.
 
2013-02-10 06:11:37 AM  

PsiChick: Girion47: PsiChick: Alonjar: [img853.imageshack.us image 606x481]

...The fark? No. Dorner is  not Batman,  he is possibly schizophrenic and certainly mentally ill. He needs to be put in a nice padded cell, not turned into a farking martyr.

Yes, he saw some very bad things while on duty, and yes, they should be investigated, but he is not in any way a hero. He is sick and needs help. And the worst part is that he will never get it, because the LAPD will shoot him on sight no matter what he's doing, even if it's waving a white flag.

This is a tragedy, not a meme. Don't try to turn it into one.

That's a lot of speculation you got goin on there.  Man, everyone could just post a 22 page document online, you could diagnose them, and single-handedly end the psychology field.

amazing.

He's  shooting people and his manifesto displays multiple textbook, as in  literally in Psych textbooks, signs of mental illness. In what universe would you say there is any reasonable likelihood he's  sane?




*gasp* he's shooting people? Why didnt I get the memo!

Humans kill other humans to influence the world around them for as long as we have been a species... even OUR OWN COUNTRY kills millions of people all over the world to this day.... and then PsiChick comes along and claims it "isnt normal."

Our culture embraces shows and movies which favor vigilante justice, we practically beg to see Jack Bauer break laws and fark people up in the name of righteousness, we make heroes of men who sacrifice themselves to fight The Evil Corrupt System.... resorting to "fighting the good fight" is as American as apple pie... then one of our citizens accepts this as a righteous thing to do.... "Must be insane".

This man is dying for YOUR rights... even if he does plan to break a few eggs in order to make the omelet.

Sic semper tyrannis is not a new concept.

The saddest part of the whole thing is that the only thing that actually makes him abnormal is the fact that he is a true believer. He was fed the Good Guys vs Bad Guys propaganda his entire life, and ate it hook line and sinker. He thought he would be GI Joe, Captain America, Superman... and then when the reality of the world jumped up and hit him in the face, he couldnt take it.. he was so aghast at the injustice he saw, that he felt he must take extreme actions to fix the world.

I find it to be both inspiring and incredibly depressing.

He isnt a hero. He's an antihero.
 
2013-02-10 06:31:58 AM  

PsiChick: Really.Shall we take a look, then? I'm using the copy found here, and here's what I'm seeing:




For the record, all that AWB crap and movie comments were not in the original manifesto. Someone lifted all that stuff off random facebook postings he made, then stuck it in there. Thats why his speech patterns change.. they are different writings from different times/events.

There are several different versions of the manifesto going around, all of them seemingly edited in some way or another.
 
2013-02-10 08:28:08 AM  

Weaver95: lesson learned - don't be black in Denver.  got it.  thanks guys!


So I should avoid Denver at all costs is what you're saying.
 
2013-02-10 09:44:45 AM  

Serious Black: Weaver95: lesson learned - don't be black in Denver.  got it.  thanks guys!

So I should avoid Denver at all costs is what you're saying.


Seriously
 
2013-02-10 09:45:09 AM  
Look, there is something you farkers don't undertand. These heros put their lives on the line for us every day. They don't know who you are. You can be some punk who'd pop them in the head with a .45 over a speeding ticket. Or just because they like to see cops bleed. These brave men and women are out there on the streets making sure we can live a normal life. You watch your partner get shot in the mouth because he was 'nice' to a suspect and let 5 seconds of complacency be the reason his wife is a widow and his kids are now orphans. You watch that and tell me why cops should let their guard down just because someone 'hasn't done anything wrong yet'.

Cops are trained to react, not to think. You don't have time to think when someone suddenly reaches behind their back. You have a split second to decide if you need to stand there like a dumbass and take what's coming next, or to clear leather and drop the perp. This is why civilians need to follow an officer's directions at all times. You need to let them know you arn't a threat, and you do that by complying with everythign they say, and show you have nothing to hide by consenting to their reasonable searches. The cops only care about stopping bad people from harming you, and by allowing him to seach your car or belongings, you let him know you are not a bad person. If you are an asshole, the cops will treat you like one. If handing out an occasional thunk to the head helps remind people to behave, then so be it. It's no different from your parents spanking you as a kid. They didn't do it to be mean, they did it so you'd learn something and be better for it. If a bruised occipital lobe reminds you to be compliant  for the next cop, something that will only serve to benifit you anyways, then so be it.

You farkers need to get over your cop hate.
 
2013-02-10 09:50:41 AM  

kombat_unit: Why do farkers call police, when they are the epitome of evil?


Never called the cops myself. People in my community have something called "responsibility". Perhaps you've heard of that. Also, I've never, ever been in a position where I could say "I'm sure glad there was a cop around.", and I challenge you to honestly contradict that. And even if you're one of the very few who can legitimately say that they are grateful for a LEO's help, balance that against the atrocities that these self-serving cowards commit on a daily basis.
 
2013-02-10 10:17:36 AM  

trentrockport: . Also, I've never, ever been in a position where I could say "I'm sure glad there was a cop around.", and I challenge you to honestly contradict that.


How could anyone contradict your personal experience?  Are you farking retarded, or just an idiot?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-10 10:24:12 AM  

MythDragon: Look, there is something you farkers don't undertand. These heros put their lives on the line for us every day. They don't know who you are. You can be some punk who'd pop them in the head with a .45 over a speeding ticket. Or just because they like to see cops bleed. These brave men and women are out there on the streets making sure we can live a normal life. You watch your partner get shot in the mouth because he was 'nice' to a suspect and let 5 seconds of complacency be the reason his wife is a widow and his kids are now orphans. You watch that and tell me why cops should let their guard down just because someone 'hasn't done anything wrong yet'.

Cops are trained to react, not to think. You don't have time to think when someone suddenly reaches behind their back. You have a split second to decide if you need to stand there like a dumbass and take what's coming next, or to clear leather and drop the perp. This is why civilians need to follow an officer's directions at all times. You need to let them know you arn't a threat, and you do that by complying with everythign they say, and show you have nothing to hide by consenting to their reasonable searches. The cops only care about stopping bad people from harming you, and by allowing him to seach your car or belongings, you let him know you are not a bad person. If you are an asshole, the cops will treat you like one. If handing out an occasional thunk to the head helps remind people to behave, then so be it. It's no different from your parents spanking you as a kid. They didn't do it to be mean, they did it so you'd learn something and be better for it. If a bruised occipital lobe reminds you to be compliant  for the next cop, something that will only serve to benifit you anyways, then so be it.

You farkers need to get over your cop hate.


WOW

9/10

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2013-02-10 10:39:04 AM  

MNguy: trentrockport: . Also, I've never, ever been in a position where I could say "I'm sure glad there was a cop around.", and I challenge you to honestly contradict that.

How could anyone contradict your personal experience?  Are you farking retarded, or just an idiot?


Okay, fair catch. I obviously meant "Can you, yourself, honestly say that you've ever been glad there was a cop around?". Way to go on the name calling. I'm impressed.
 
2013-02-10 10:39:35 AM  

MythDragon: Look, there is something you farkers don't undertand. These heros put their lives on the line for us every day. They don't know who you are. You can be some punk who'd pop them in the head with a .45 over a speeding ticket. Or just because they like to see cops bleed. These brave men and women are out there on the streets making sure we can live a normal life. You watch your partner get shot in the mouth because he was 'nice' to a suspect and let 5 seconds of complacency be the reason his wife is a widow and his kids are now orphans. You watch that and tell me why cops should let their guard down just because someone 'hasn't done anything wrong yet'.

Cops are trained to react, not to think. You don't have time to think when someone suddenly reaches behind their back. You have a split second to decide if you need to stand there like a dumbass and take what's coming next, or to clear leather and drop the perp. This is why civilians need to follow an officer's directions at all times. You need to let them know you arn't a threat, and you do that by complying with everythign they say, and show you have nothing to hide by consenting to their reasonable searches. The cops only care about stopping bad people from harming you, and by allowing him to seach your car or belongings, you let him know you are not a bad person. If you are an asshole, the cops will treat you like one. If handing out an occasional thunk to the head helps remind people to behave, then so be it. It's no different from your parents spanking you as a kid. They didn't do it to be mean, they did it so you'd learn something and be better for it. If a bruised occipital lobe reminds you to be compliant  for the next cop, something that will only serve to benifit you anyways, then so be it.

You farkers need to get over your cop hate.



This is all well in good, but it's the cops' apparent overzealousness to go for deadly force or physically roughing someone up over minor issues that peeves a lot of people. They have plenty of non-lethal force at their disposal: tasers, beanbag rounds, pepper spray, etc. Sure, if someone is coming at them with a weapon they should react in the strongest way possible, but these instances where they work themselves into a frenzy and perform Rodney King style beat-ups over somebody mouthing off is unacceptable. The recent bullet-riddling of the elderly ladies' truck in Torrance and another in Redondo the same day shows how trigger-happy they are. Sgt. Tackleberry was a funny guy in "Police Academy," but he's no police role model.

It's too bad that things had to get as far as Dorner's murder spree, but there are serious issues in the police forces around the country that desperately need to be fixed. The Rampart/Rodney King cops needed to be fired, and definitely did not deserve promotions! The blue wall of silence must be broken. Dorner is a looney, but his credibility on the problems in the LAPD was upheld last night, when the LAPD announced that they were going to re-investigate all allegations of misconduct, including the new allegations brought forth in Dorner's manifesto.
 
2013-02-10 10:45:22 AM  

gja: WOW

9/10

Thank you.

I put some effort into that one.
 
2013-02-10 10:50:56 AM  

trentrockport: MNguy: trentrockport: . Also, I've never, ever been in a position where I could say "I'm sure glad there was a cop around.", and I challenge you to honestly contradict that.

How could anyone contradict your personal experience?  Are you farking retarded, or just an idiot?

Okay, fair catch. I obviously meant "Can you, yourself, honestly say that you've ever been glad there was a cop around?". Way to go on the name calling. I'm impressed.


Obviously.  And, yes, I can say I've been happy to have a cop nearby.

/sorry about the name-calling, I need coffee
 
2013-02-10 11:42:35 AM  

ecl: eggrolls: So the going rate for three pigs to beat the living shiat out of you is 795k and knowing they will be out there gunning for you possibly forever.

Got it.

FTFY


I humbly accept your correction, and thank you for your wisdom, sensei. You are absolutely correct.
 
2013-02-10 12:58:41 PM  
 What you don't know of Denver story -

1. The current administration is so corrupt Satan excommunicated them. The Mayor's office down to the Chief of POlice has pissed on the rank and file for over a decade and a half. Recently demoted all detectives back to uniform and chose their own detectives willy-nilly. Rank and file so PO'd in many instances simply no longer respond to calls.

2. This trend began when the rumored #1 drug kingpin in Colorado was elected Mayor; had his employee (an illegal alien bus boy at one of his restaurants) attempt to murder the two top detectives investigating the drug network. One cop survived being shot point blank  and has never uttered a word since. The other died. The illegal alien, without any visible means of support escaped a five state APB including federal task forces and got back to Mexico. One of the rare instances where Mexico agreed to extradition.

3. This kind of corrupted administration, corrupt upper echelon and corrupt Party Officials (it's a One Party Town - D) led to a widespread hiring binge of unqualified patrol candidates and has enraged retired PDs like nothing else ever has.

The head of the snake corrupts the whole body.
 
2013-02-10 01:20:20 PM  

PsiChick: He's shooting people and his manifesto displays multiple textbook, as in literally in Psych textbooks, signs of mental illness.


He's shooting people? Unlike the LAPD, who never shoots innocent people.

latimesblogs.latimes.com
msnbcmedia.msn.com

I'm not even going to get into the "textbook, as in literally in Psych textbooks" signs of mental illness the cops show on a daily basis.
 
2013-02-10 01:21:35 PM  

HempHead: As the vehicle approached the house, officers unloaded a barrage of bullets into the back of the truck. When the shooting stopped, they quickly realized their mistake. The truck was not a Nissan Titan, but a Toyota Tacoma. The color wasn't gray, but aqua blue. And it wasn't Dorner inside the truck, but a woman and her mother delivering copies of the Los Angeles Times.

LATimes



The funny thing is, this is obviously bullshiat, because they shot the BACK of the truck, so it wasn't "approaching" at all.
 
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